Virat is the new mukhya - Page 28

Originally posted by: Nirip

Mere ko bulana yaar, so many days passed shadi attend kare.

Not really into the SaiYa SaiRat debate BUT -

I am a woman who is a doctor, a wife, a mother and a daughter. I go to the hospital to work, come back and have time with my children and my husband. I go out with my husband leaving my kids with a babysitter or their grandparents. Sometimes both my husband and I have emergencies at the hospital and have to sacrifice our time with our children. I go out with my friends leaving my children with my extended family or my husband for some time. I come on IF and pen down my thoughts.

Does all of this mean that I am a bad mother or my child is neglected?

Sai has not removed her nazar from her children. But does that mean that she is supposed to put them under 24 hour surveillance under their own home, where according to this forum, their very able and loving Chavan family and very responsible and protective father lives?

How is she supposed to keep her children away from their stepmother if her own ex-husband and family have no problem with it? Especially when even a small argument with her can spawn more hatred in Vinu's mind?

And about Savi - Sai doesn't know she was verbally abused by Pakhi, mainly because Virat hid the entire matter. For her, Pakhi has never shown any bad blood with Savi and even I would believe that my child would not start considering any random aunty as her mother just because I am otherwise occupied anyway.

Pakhi is plotting and she is shrewd. Sai is courageous but not devious. How is she supposed to figure out Pakhi's masterplan even if she lives in the same house and doesn't go out "solving other peoples' problems"? Is she supposed to stop Savi from interacting/cooking with Pakhi when her ex and his family happily participate in the charade, or is she also supposed to don another hat which says Doctor Aunty and become a family of 5 with the Chavans?

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

Not really into the SaiYa SaiRat debate BUT -

I am a woman who is a doctor, a wife, a mother and a daughter. I go to the hospital to work, come back and have time with my children and my husband. I go out with my husband leaving my kids with a babysitter or their grandparents. Sometimes both my husband and I have emergencies at the hospital and have to sacrifice our time with our children. I go out with my friends leaving my children with my extended family or my husband for some time. I come on IF and pen down my thoughts.

Does all of this mean that I am a bad mother or my child is neglected?

Sai has not removed her nazar from her children. But does that mean that she is supposed to put them under 24 hour surveillance under their own home, where according to this forum, their very able and loving Chavan family and very responsible and protective father lives?

How is she supposed to keep her children away from their stepmother if her own ex-husband and family have no problem with it? Especially when even a small argument with her can spawn more hatred in Vinu's mind?

And about Savi - Sai doesn't know she was verbally abused by Pakhi, mainly because Virat hid the entire matter. For her, Pakhi has never shown any bad blood with Savi and even I would believe that my child would not start considering any random aunty as her mother just because I am otherwise occupied anyway.

Pakhi is plotting and she is shrewd. Sai is courageous but not devious. How is she supposed to figure out Pakhi's masterplan even if she lives in the same house and doesn't go out "solving other peoples' problems"? Is she supposed to stop Savi from interacting/cooking with Pakhi when her ex and his family happily participate in the charade, or is she also supposed to don another hat which says Doctor Aunty and become a family of 5 with the Chavans?

This is so beautifully penned as the reality of actual life.👏

A mother who has time for herself actually is also able to take better care of her children.

And obviously there have been cases, where toxics partners of ex-spouses or the ex-spouses themselves have hurt children (from both sides) to hurt the other-ex partner. Not to go in toxic details, but we have all read those headlines.

Fair enough .. you have raised good points .. since you have gone personally I can ask you are you facing the same situation like Sai is facing

no you are not .. every situation is different and requires a different kind of attack

Patralekha has never played fair .. she has attacked and kept on attacking even when things are down n out and Sai has always given up mid way in the fight

Fair enough she was never interested or invested in Virat whereas patralekha only cared about Virat come what may .. and that’s why her relentless pursuit paid off ..and she is Virat’s wife whether he loves or not he is stuck with her .. as she made adverse situations suitable to her ..

Sai was not interested in virat .. so she let him go .. great 👍👍👍..

But what is she doing about Vinayak .. nothing concrete .. zilch mada .. sirf mera beta mera beta … bla bla bla ..

Savi she has worked enough but again if your situation is on enemy grounds and you are focusing on other things .you end up losing even those territory to relentless attackers. then be happy

Savi is becoming more n more comfortable with patralekha.. she won’t replace her as mom . But patralekha is doing enough to show she can keep Savi .. along with vinu

What has Sai gained nothing .. ( certainly not vinu )

What is she Losing Savi definitely

because it is leading to a situation where Savi will be happy that her mom is getting married and wish her well and say Tata bye bye to her

Savi certainly looks happiern comfortable in CN why should she be shifted to live with strangers..who are no blood relatives to her .. and why should Virat allow his girl to shift with a strange man .. Sai had the same situation with Vinayak but she gave up the fight easily

Sai bahut dheeli hai .. the enthusiasm she had during Devyani pulkit is sadly missing .

It’s best she moves out of CN .. gets married to Satya and set up a life with him and try building a new family..with him

She never cared enough for her own kids .. they will thrive and do well in CN .. since patralekha cannot have her own kids she won’t ill treat them .. with Sai gone she will Molly coddle them in a game of upmanship .. so that virat stays tied to her .. atleast the kids won’t suffer ..

Sai can come and give gyan when they turn adults .
A mother who has abandoned her kids for whatever circumstances has no right to give gyan .. go have a new family ..

When you have everything to lose .. you don’t play fair .. you have to use all your wile and put your attention.. patralekha is doing that .. and Sai is sleeping

Originally posted by: Sinmegh

Fair enough .. you have raised good points .. since you have gone personally I can ask you are you facing the same situation like Sai is facing

no you are not .. every situation is different and requires a different kind of attack

Patralekha has never played fair .. she has attacked and kept on attacking even when things are down n out and Sai has always given up mid way in the fight

Fair enough she was never interested or invested in Virat whereas patralekha only cared about Virat come what may .. and that’s why her relentless pursuit paid off ..and she is Virat’s wife whether he loves or not he is stuck with her .. as she made adverse situations suitable to her ..

Sai was not interested in virat .. so she let him go .. great 👍👍👍..

But what is she doing about Vinayak .. nothing concrete .. zilch mada .. sirf mera beta mera beta … bla bla bla ..

Savi she has worked enough but again if your situation is on enemy grounds and you are focusing on other things .you end up losing even those territory to relentless attackers. then be happy

Savi is becoming more n more comfortable with patralekha.. she won’t replace her as mom . But patralekha is doing enough to show she can keep Savi .. along with vinu

What has Sai gained nothing .. ( certainly not vinu )

What is she Losing Savi definitely

because it is leading to a situation where Savi will be happy that her mom is getting married and wish her well and say Tata bye bye to her

Savi certainly looks happiern comfortable in CN why should she be shifted to live with strangers..who are no blood relatives to her .. and why should Virat allow his girl to shift with a strange man .. Sai had the same situation with Vinayak but she gave up the fight easily

Sai bahut dheeli hai .. the enthusiasm she had during Devyani pulkit is sadly missing .

It’s best she moves out of CN .. gets married to Satya and set up a life with him and try building a new family..with him

She never cared enough for her own kids .. they will thrive and do well in CN .. since patralekha cannot have her own kids she won’t ill treat them .. with Sai gone she will Molly coddle them in a game of upmanship .. so that virat stays tied to her .. atleast the kids won’t suffer ..

Sai can come and give gyan when they turn adults .
A mother who has abandoned her kids for whatever circumstances has no right to give gyan .. go have a new family ..

When you have everything to lose .. you don’t play fair .. you have to use all your wile and put your attention.. patralekha is doing that .. and Sai is sleeping

Sai has not done enough - that i strongly disagree to that just because she is giving herself sometimes doesnt make her a bad mother...For the first time I saw her laughing whole heartedly...

If Sai has not done enough then what is she doing in cn at the cost of her selfrespect..She has to witness that lady cohabiting with her ex who is the reason for her every misery...savi will eventually grow up and realize what her mother had sacrifice for her ...what im not liking that she is not doing anything actively to pursue her son..rest is cool..savi is a toddler..she knows where the genuine love lies...how does an woman become selfish if she chooses to marry again and dedicates sometimes for herself..If she continues to put her self respect on stake in the future savi will learn that too...Where has she given gyan to anyone...Right now her life is too messed up and she is in a position where everystep there is throne waiting for him...She is not abandoning her child ...But if she does that under any circumstances vanker knows majority of the audience will abandon the show..

She is not doing enough to get back Vinayak.. I don’t have issues with her settling down with another man but first secure your position with what is important for you ..

And she has neglected Savi quite a bit in her wish to get back Vinayak

Virat pakhi and her equation with them is a separate matter .. when she is safely in Vinayak’s mind as his mother she can chose yo ignore virat pakhi and the Chavans ..

even after living for a month in Chavan niwas she hasn’t shown the kids .. the past photographs so that some truth is brought out to her situation

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

Not really into the SaiYa SaiRat debate BUT -

I am a woman who is a doctor, a wife, a mother and a daughter. I go to the hospital to work, come back and have time with my children and my husband. I go out with my husband leaving my kids with a babysitter or their grandparents. Sometimes both my husband and I have emergencies at the hospital and have to sacrifice our time with our children. I go out with my friends leaving my children with my extended family or my husband for some time. I come on IF and pen down my thoughts.

Does all of this mean that I am a bad mother or my child is neglected?

Sai has not removed her nazar from her children. But does that mean that she is supposed to put them under 24 hour surveillance under their own home, where according to this forum, their very able and loving Chavan family and very responsible and protective father lives?

How is she supposed to keep her children away from their stepmother if her own ex-husband and family have no problem with it? Especially when even a small argument with her can spawn more hatred in Vinu's mind?

And about Savi - Sai doesn't know she was verbally abused by Pakhi, mainly because Virat hid the entire matter. For her, Pakhi has never shown any bad blood with Savi and even I would believe that my child would not start considering any random aunty as her mother just because I am otherwise occupied anyway.

Pakhi is plotting and she is shrewd. Sai is courageous but not devious. How is she supposed to figure out Pakhi's masterplan even if she lives in the same house and doesn't go out "solving other peoples' problems"? Is she supposed to stop Savi from interacting/cooking with Pakhi when her ex and his family happily participate in the charade, or is she also supposed to don another hat which says Doctor Aunty and become a family of 5 with the Chavans?

We working woman balance all. But we don’t have P in our life who has snatched one child & capable of snatching other.

During initial deal phase Virat would tell Sai that being topper or being bookish smart doesn’t mean you are dealing with things in life. Current situation again tells that. Sai is warm hearted straight forward person. But she knows P. Sai should be doing what P is doing with Savi if Sai wants to have her family with Vinu & Savi. Pizza party, star gazing was that but she has to pursue it smartly to distance Vinu from P. Sai knows P is mentally unstable, devious & capable of hurting herself & others. She should up her game like she did with Devkit wedding or dealing with Ameya. She can do it while focusing on her career. Make use of Dr. Cools influence on Vinu. Taking him along to meet him & explain why Sai is his real mother & she is who he should be with through him.

Exactly my point .. you can only afford to relax n play fair when others are playing fair around you

Originally posted by: Sinmegh

Fair enough .. you have raised good points .. since you have gone personally I can ask you are you facing the same situation like Sai is facing

no you are not .. every situation is different and requires a different kind of attack

Patralekha has never played fair .. she has attacked and kept on attacking even when things are down n out and Sai has always given up mid way in the fight

Fair enough she was never interested or invested in Virat whereas patralekha only cared about Virat come what may .. and that’s why her relentless pursuit paid off ..and she is Virat’s wife whether he loves or not he is stuck with her .. as she made adverse situations suitable to her ..

Sai was not interested in virat .. so she let him go .. great 👍👍👍..

But what is she doing about Vinayak .. nothing concrete .. zilch mada .. sirf mera beta mera beta … bla bla bla ..

Savi she has worked enough but again if your situation is on enemy grounds and you are focusing on other things .you end up losing even those territory to relentless attackers. then be happy

Savi is becoming more n more comfortable with patralekha.. she won’t replace her as mom . But patralekha is doing enough to show she can keep Savi .. along with vinu

What has Sai gained nothing .. ( certainly not vinu )

What is she Losing Savi definitely

because it is leading to a situation where Savi will be happy that her mom is getting married and wish her well and say Tata bye bye to her

Savi certainly looks happiern comfortable in CN why should she be shifted to live with strangers..who are no blood relatives to her .. and why should Virat allow his girl to shift with a strange man .. Sai had the same situation with Vinayak but she gave up the fight easily

Sai bahut dheeli hai .. the enthusiasm she had during Devyani pulkit is sadly missing .

It’s best she moves out of CN .. gets married to Satya and set up a life with him and try building a new family..with him

She never cared enough for her own kids .. they will thrive and do well in CN .. since patralekha cannot have her own kids she won’t ill treat them .. with Sai gone she will Molly coddle them in a game of upmanship .. so that virat stays tied to her .. atleast the kids won’t suffer ..

Sai can come and give gyan when they turn adults .
A mother who has abandoned her kids for whatever circumstances has no right to give gyan .. go have a new family ..

When you have everything to lose .. you don’t play fair .. you have to use all your wile and put your attention.. patralekha is doing that .. and Sai is sleeping

I am not facing a situation like Sai. Most people in the normal world are not facing a situation like her.

The one thing I agree on - she is not actively trying to take Vinu with her. But again, Rome wasn't built in a day. At least she went from Jaadugarni to Pari. At least her son can now be in the room with her without running off. What else at this point can Sai do? She tried to go to the courts, but dropped the idea due to valid concerns about Vinu's mental health. Vinu is not a well-adjusted child to begin with - he does have mental issues regarding abandonment and disability. His one constant has been the woman he calls his mother - who entered his life due to his ball-less father - and he doesn't know her reality. It is not upon, should not be upon, and is unfair to everyone involved for Sai to divulge Patralekha's dubious activities. Because her son does not trust her completely in the first place. Shouldn't Bhavani/Virat or any of the so called "blood relatives" like Chavans bring this issue up and sort it?

Devi was Bhavani's blood, Virat's blood. Does that mean Chavans deserved to have her as their daughter?

I won't go into any of the other things you mentioned, because it will just become an essay at this point but I will say that I mostly disagree with everything else.

Also, co-parenting does not mean abandoning your children. I've grown up and lived in places where blended families were the norm. Divorcing/remarriage does not mean that the children's biological/legal parents change. Nor do the new spouses have to become their new parents. I think there is a huge confusion between abandoning your children and remarrying on this forum.

While the idea of a perfect family of four exists in Savi's imagination, it doesn't fit the narrative of Sai-Virat-Pakhi anyway.

Would the collective audience be happy if Sai lives in CN as Virat's ex (in a utopia land where Virat divorces Patra but Sai refuses to take him back) and lives her life as a single mother, killing her self-respect?

In fact, there is also the idea that Sai should be a single mother and move out of CN with her children. My question then is - it still breaks oh-so-poor Savi's perfect family, still the kids are away from Chavans (their blood relatives) - so what purpose does that serve? Doesn't that mean that the ultimate motive of the audience would be that if Virat cannot have someone else then so shouldn't Sai? Is that fair? Why can't she move on with someone and take her children with her for half of their time (in case they have 50% custody)?

Why can't the children have two families? Most kids do. Consider Satya's family as Sai's family - i.e. the kids maternal home. KJ is dead anyway, so they would be Sai's family now.

My point is not if Adhikaris are positive or not - they might have Cosa Nostra connections for all I care. Chavans are not pious idealists anyway. But why does any child have to choose between their parents if they are both able-bodied, loving, caring people? Why does a woman have to choose between a new life as a wife or her children? Doesn't she deserve both?

Originally posted by: natkhat_angel

I am not facing a situation like Sai. Most people in the normal world are not facing a situation like her.

The one thing I agree on - she is not actively trying to take Vinu with her. But again, Rome wasn't built in a day. At least she went from Jaadugarni to Pari. At least her son can now be in the room with her without running off. What else at this point can Sai do? She tried to go to the courts, but dropped the idea due to valid concerns about Vinu's mental health. Vinu is not a well-adjusted child to begin with - he does have mental issues regarding abandonment and disability. His one constant has been the woman he calls his mother - who entered his life due to his ball-less father - and he doesn't know her reality. It is not upon, should not be upon, and is unfair to everyone involved for Sai to divulge Patralekha's dubious activities. Because her son does not trust her completely in the first place. Shouldn't Bhavani/Virat or any of the so called "blood relatives" like Chavans bring this issue up and sort it?

Devi was Bhavani's blood, Virat's blood. Does that mean Chavans deserved to have her as their daughter?

I won't go into any of the other things you mentioned, because it will just become an essay at this point but I will say that I mostly disagree with everything else.

Also, co-parenting does not mean abandoning your children. I've grown up and lived in places where blended families were the norm. Divorcing/remarriage does not mean that the children's biological/legal parents change. Nor do the new spouses have to become their new parents. I think there is a huge confusion between abandoning your children and remarrying on this forum.

While the idea of a perfect family of four exists in Savi's imagination, it doesn't fit the narrative of Sai-Virat-Pakhi anyway.

Would the collective audience be happy if Sai lives in CN as Virat's ex (in a utopia land where Virat divorces Patra but Sai refuses to take him back) and lives her life as a single mother, killing her self-respect?

In fact, there is also the idea that Sai should be a single mother and move out of CN with her children. My question then is - it still breaks oh-so-poor Savi's perfect family, still the kids are away from Chavans (their blood relatives) - so what purpose does that serve? Doesn't that mean that the ultimate motive of the audience would be that if Virat cannot have someone else then so shouldn't Sai? Is that fair? Why can't she move on with someone and take her children with her for half of their time (in case they have 50% custody)?

Why can't the children have two families? Most kids do. Consider Satya's family as Sai's family - i.e. the kids maternal home. KJ is dead anyway, so they would be Sai's family now.

My point is not if Adhikaris are positive or not - they might have Cosa Nostra connections for all I care. Chavans are not pious idealists anyway. But why does any child have to choose between their parents if they are both able-bodied, loving, caring people? Why does a woman have to choose between a new life as a wife or her children? Doesn't she deserve both?

problem is reason for marriage. If Sai falls for Satya & wants to marry after knowing him well few years down the road, the discussion of Sai deserving new person in life is valid. Right now that’s not the case. Or so we are told. She will be giving up Vinu & her marrying satya is to be able to give him up with possibly Savi. Fact is she doesn’t know Satya. Her father misjudged Virat as he saw him only in professional setting. What’s basis of Sai choosing Satya? That he helped the nurse? Then Virat saved Sai & even married her. See how he turned out be. After what Sai went through she should wait & be with a person whom she will love not some compromise. Definitely with person who is ghum hai kisi ke yaad mein. They should have had someone with clean slate for her & built the story before jumping into marriage.