Guilt, guilt and more guilt. Its a chakravyuh. Live With it

Good morning peeps. I am back after a break. Had been a little hectic with last 5 days

Here's my two cents on what happened last 4 episodes.

Katha goes missing, she is not traceable. Phone switched off, no emails. Only we knew she is on a picnic with monkey. Viaan is feeling helpless, restless and basically headless🤣🤣 Kaise CEO hai ye bhai. Much much samajh nahi aya.

Jokes apart, what I understood was Katha was fine to go to work, even for Dubai trip, till the moment she realised that she has been tricked to go to Dubai, and she did not show any OTT reaction. She comes back quietly and decides to cut off all the ties with Viaan and EarthCon. I find it absolutely okay. After 2nd offer, Katha has put Viaan in the category of man with wrong intention. If you observed their confrontation yesterday, she says, "It was a chakravyuh made by you, I came in and went out. I don't repent, because my intention was not wrong"

It is very difficult to work with a person, if you think he has man intentions. Actions can be corrected, but intentions are more important to be clear

So Katha is on job hunt, and we know ultimately she may get or not, but she will go back to EarthCon for the story to move on.

Viaan, the stalker has reached Katha's home. And a handwritten apology along with a shipper he won there as Dodo. I am sure he will win over Aarav later. Katha is now more worried with his intentions.

Ehsan turning into Aashique mode is something which is causing me indigestion🤣🤣 Let him be friend zoned, please. He is cute and funny

Viaan-Mamma R interaction and she consoling him with a poem I loved. She is not that creepy, as I thought of herself. Only her dressing sense is really bad.

The thing I loved the most was Katha-Viaan confrontation. That episode changed my whole perspective about the characters. Katha is really strong, she still stands by her decision to take the deal. And doesn't repent it. Viaan wants a closure just for the sake of his own mental peace. All his quest for knowing what and why is for his own peace so that he can get back to his OG Viaan form. Katha's question, "Kya kya, kya kiya .... ye sab jo ho gaya, woh to nahi badal sakte hai na?" This is a question which every victim of abuse in any situation would ask. Here She is a victim of her own circumstances. And to add the worst, Viaan made a chakravyuh, she entered voluntarily and exited. And he is left behind in his own chakravyuh to live with the guilt.

Ameer phi aap, powerful bhi aap...aapko aapki becharigiri mubarak ho..... Kudos to writers. Each dialogue hits hard. And Viaan and his convo with priest in Gurudwara I liked so much. Hopefully he will wait patiently for his answers, and will be patient to chase her for forgiveness

What I realised is both behave like couples, after ONS. And there are many parallels to G couple. But they both are not inclined to each other, romantically or friendly. Katha wants to shut down the memories and move on. Viaan and his antics remind her of dark night. Viaan wants a closure for himself, he has no feelings yet, Ehsan is making it more complicated for him.

Today was a filler episode. Tomorrow we will have party and maybe by day after, truth will come out. Viaan will fall into unending guilt, and repentance track starts

Dilli ab bahut door hai Viaan babu keliye.

I don't think she will go back to EarthCon anytime soon. They may show a guilty Viaan trying to chase Katha for a long time.

Overall, I am enjoying the show. I am stuck with so much work pressure

Viaan was already fighting one battle with ownself .About his anger,disappointment, betrayal he felt when his dad left his mother in him and as shown at a tender age. he couldn't find a closure there infact that incident cemented some of his beliefs about women being opportunists n gold diggers.fighting this battle he came across katha and he was blown by her talent,her skills and her urge to take her team and go ahead and he thought she is different may be may be he started believing he mi8 be proven wrong by katha.But boom comes kathas loan request and there again viaan is on battlefield again confused,angry, and in haste puts the ons offer and enters another battlefield. There is the chakravyuh that he entered .How he is going to come out of this chakravyuh time will tell but in process he is going to be reborn for sure .he will be a totally different person .

I had so many reactions upon viewing the confrontation between V & K. Now I am all chilled out🤣

From what I remember, both characters confused me.

The offer of the ONS was a deal. We can debate the morality of the offer and completion of the transaction but it remains a deal. Why is Viaan feeling so guilty now? I can't grasp this. If you feel that something is wrong, why go through it? There's no logic to Viaan's actions and reactions. Moreover, why is Katha responsible for assuaging his guilt? What is wrong with this man? He put himself in a torment, and now he wants to drag her with him. For once, Nightie Mum was right. Viaan needs to forgive himself first. Stop making a spectacle of your emotions Viaan Raghuvanshi.

As for Katha, I am perfectly fine with her not feeling guilty. But what I don't understand is why let Viaan live with this torment? Had Viaan not made his offer, would Aarav be fine today? Let us assume that PapaG did not change his mind. Where would Aarav and Katha be then without Viaan's offer? However wrong the offer was, should Katha not feel some level of gratitude towards Viaan?

I don't understand these people and their emotions. I agree with Katha's actions but I have difficulty with her blaming Viaan or playing the morality game. What was that comment about facing God? When did Katha become judge and jury? 2 consenting adults agreed on a deal. Why can't they leave it at that?

Mili, where are you? I have been waiting for your POV.

@Lethamukund I understand not having time, and having to manage everything. Glad to see you back😊

Originally posted by: Shalzie

I had so many reactions upon viewing the confrontation between V & K. Now I am all chilled out🤣

From what I remember, both characters confused me.

The offer of the ONS was a deal. We can debate the morality of the offer and completion of the transaction but it remains a deal. Why is Viaan feeling so guilty now? I can't grasp this. If you feel that something is wrong, why go through it? There's no logic to Viaan's actions and reactions. Moreover, why is Katha responsible for assuaging his guilt? What is wrong with this man? He put himself in a torment, and now he wants to drag her with him. For once, Nightie Mum was right. Viaan needs to forgive himself first. Stop making a spectacle of your emotions Viaan Raghuvanshi.

As for Katha, I am perfectly fine with her not feeling guilty. But what I don't understand is why let Viaan live with this torment? Had Viaan not made his offer, would Aarav be fine today? Let us assume that PapaG did not change his mind. Where would Aarav and Katha be then without Viaan's offer? However wrong the offer was, should Katha not feel some level of gratitude towards Viaan?

I don't understand these people and their emotions. I agree with Katha's actions but I have difficulty with her blaming Viaan or playing the morality game. What was that comment about facing God? When did Katha become judge and jury? 2 consenting adults agreed on a deal. Why can't they leave it at that?

Mili, where are you? I have been waiting for your POV.

@Lethamukund I understand not having time, and having to manage everything. Glad to see you back😊

@ Bold: Viaan thought of Katha as GD, so went with executing the deal. Later he realised that she is not GD, because she did not change bag and phone and did not upgrade her living style. So he feels what he did is wrong. But he assuming entitled himself to know and chasing Katha to say out her reason is unreasonable. Katha is no way answerable. He put up the deal, she agreed, deal done and she went out.

@Red: I am also fine with Katha not feeling guilty. But she should not blame him that he did wrong with her. He gave her the option to back out, and she decided to go ahead. I feel like, she is not mad at him for giving the offer, and going ahead with it. She is mad at him for second offer and his persistent efforts to stalk her to make her talk. Her condition was that once deal is done, no talk. He has breached that condition. After the deal is done, you can't undo it. and if he feels uncomfortable, its his problem, not hers. But she should not judge him for what happened mutually between them

OFC, these two are confusing us, and behaves like couples. But I don't get any romantic/friendly vibes. I get a kind of couples angry with each other. Pure domestic vibes🤣🤣

Thanks Shalzie for kind words. I will be back with my essay on friday. Tomorrow also a little bit busy

Mango, I have a long essay in my mind for G couple. They look interesting than leads to me😉😉

Mili, I am eagerly waiting for your points

I get lost on this forum. If you ladies don't tag me, I have the discussions with myself 🤣

letha -- those domestic vibes are super confusing. hahaha....

I posted these in DT but will share them again in case if missed. the body language is so similar that it really did throw many of us off with how angry domestic it was. basically the parallel with Gparents show us how domestic their argument is.

ooh, essay on Gparents. should be good to hear your view! :)

Originally posted by: Shalzie

I get lost on this forum. If you ladies don't tag me, I have the discussions with myself 🤣

as of now, I am bit of enthu cutlet and spending a lot of time in DT. so randomly commenting and making snarky jokes. so much so that I don't keep track of what I am typing. 🤣

but will try to tag you on the more serious notes. :)

forgot to share this -- also reposting from DT. basically the body language for katha is striking. she moves into his space to argue. she doesn't jump when he sits near her sofa. in fact she gets up to move next to him to deliver her stabbing line "live with it!"

shalzie -- for me, viaan is a lot easier to understand. we have his monologues and we have got a good read on him. katha, we have nothing. so I understand why he is anxious.

I remember a certain climate a few years ago where we would hear of companies laying off people. people started to get very anxious as we had no idea what management was upto and rumours started to fly. so there was a company wide meeting and it was hilarious because they said there would be no layoffs and nothing to be anxious about.

sometimes, not knowing but sensing something is off can make us super anxious. even if it is bad news, it feels like it is better to know because then you know how to react and what to do going ahead. so that is the kind of mindframe where viaan is reacting from. it is all just anxiety.

as for katha, I am still not sure why she was so upset with him because the domestic vibes was just a curve ball. yea, she said some pretty savage stuff but the way she said, it sounded like someone slaying down their man. someone who belonged to her. like letha said, maybe it just had to do with the second one night stand offer and his persistence in wanting to know.