Pandya Store|Episode Discussion #227 - Page 32

Something I have observed, and I might be completely wrong here, is that people tend to view these kind of shows and their characters through quite a conservative lens.

While I understand there is a big difference between reel and real, but this isn't set in some dystopian world with different values, morals or sense of right & wrong. Would the same expectations be put on real women?

For instance, if we take the example of the actress playing Raavi. Would it be okay for her partner to have a say in who she can work with or be friends with? Would giving a thank-you-hug or taking a lift home be seen as inappropriate? Would a colleague coming to visit her when she isn't well be seen a overstepping some boundary? Would she be expected to stop being friends with him or working with him if her partner doesn't like him? Would wanting to confirm information before telling anyone be labelled wrong? Would she be expected to work on her relationship despite being treated badly?

These and some other such questions do come to my mind and I truly hope the answer is "No".

Originally posted by: mpks1

Shiva- Bhabima conversation intercut with Shweta- Raavi scene.

Shiva is crying in Bhavima’s lap

He says, “mere jaahilpan ki wajah se Raavi mujhse dhoor chali gayi hai Bhabi, mein lasyak nahi hoon Bhabi, mein laayak nahi hoon aapke maafi ke na Raavi ke pyaar ke, mujhe kabhi dhikat nahi hai Bhabi uske kaam se kabhi dhikat nahi Bhabi”

Bhabima says, “jaanti hoon”

Shiva continues, “mujhe dhikat hai ki woh mujhse baatein chupaayi”

Bhabima says, “Shiva, Raavi nevtujhse battein chupayi issliye chupayi ki”

Shiva cuts Bhabima, “haan jaanta hoon Bhabi, jaanta hoon, jaanta hoon, mein hi Bailbuddhi hoon, poori galati meri hai, dimaag nahi chalata hoon, haath per chalata hoon bas, Bhabi mein possessive hoon uske liye possessive hoon kyunki pyar karta hoon usse, poori duniye mein sabse zyaada usse, ye baat woh samajti hai Bhabi hameshaa mujhecsamjati hai, lad jhagd ke jaise bhi samjati hai Bhabi aur mein samaj bhi jaata hoon, par iss baar usne koshish bhi nahi ki, mein uske chatrita pe shak nahi kar raha thaa mein apni Raavi ko jaanta hoon, par usne jhoot bola naa, baatein chupayi lafda wahi se hua, Krish ki shaadi mei bhi jab aayi thi meine gaya thaa saamne se, meine maaf bhi maangi usse, maaf nshi kiya usne terk hai, meine kuch nahi bola, mein ye nshi keh raha hoon ki uss lomdi aur uske beech mei kuch hai, mera mann jaanta hai ki kuch nahi hai, uske saat kya kisike saat bhi nahi hosakta jaanta hoon mein apni Raavi ko, par ye dho kadi ka dil hai naa Bhabi, ye dho kaudi ka dil sawaal utta thaa hai, takleef hoti hai issko, issko kaun samjaayegaa, ek baar haath pe hasth rakh ke dilasa deti naa Bhabi sab sahi rehata”

Bhabima’s monologue, “ aye Somnath matlab baat sirf itni hai ki inn donon ne teek se baat tak nahi ki hai, itni si problem ko till ka taad bana diya donon ne”

Shiva continues, “abhi bhi samsj mei aata hai mereko ladieswaali baat thi, usne aapko bola, acchi baat hai, acchi baat hai aapko bola, par itna ss bhi khayal thaa, itna sa bhi khayal thaa woh pet se toh mereko pata hona chahiye thaa na Bhabi itna toh haq banta hai na mera, Bhabi mein yeh sab baatein aapko bolke mein apna ullu seedha nahi kar raha hoon, saari galati meri hai, sau takka meri hai, koi galati nahi hai uski, sirf ek galati hai Bhabi, usne baatein chupayi, usne jhoot bola mujhse aur ye baat koi nahi badal sakta, usski galati ye hai ki wih mujhe aake baat nahi ki, agar baat karti, mamla sulag jaata, aur sab khatam hojaata aur ye sab raada hota hi nahi”

Bhabima shushes him.

Shiva says, “ kause samjaaoon usko”

Again starts crying

Bhabima says, “Shaant ho haa Shiva, sgaant ho jaa, sab teek hojaayegaa, sab teek hojaayegaa”

Shiva says, “mein mar jaaoonga uske bina Bhabi”

Bhabima’s monologue, “anjaane mei hi sahi par Arnav aagaya hai Raavi aur Shiva ke beech, aaj agar inn donon ke beech sulagh karwa bhi doon, kal ye muddha phir aa sakta hai, mujhe Arnav se baat karni hi hogi”

Bhabima wipes his tears, “ mein jaanti hoon tera mann sacha hsi aur tu sacche mann se Raavi se pyar karta hai, Bholenath pe bharosa rakh woh sab sahi kar denge, sab sahi kardenge, tu chinta mat kar, chal andhar chsl, aaja, utt”

And Shiva hugs Bhabima. Both go back inside the house.

Bhaisaa, itna saara jhoot! 😲

Pehle Shiva ko kue mein daalo. And is BhabhiMa sayin she knows?! Wasn't she there when he doubted, accused her of having an affair, and the abused her?! BhabhiMa ko bhi kue mein daal do.

Major eye-roll.

Originally posted by: anoniya

Something I have observed, and I might be completely wrong here, is that people tend to view these kind of shows and their characters through quite a conservative lens.

While I understand there is a big difference between reel and real, but this isn't set in some dystopian world with different values, morals or sense of right & wrong. Would the same expectations be put on real women?

For instance, if we take the example of the actress playing Raavi. Would it be okay for her partner to have a say in who she can work with or be friends with? Would giving a thank-you-hug or taking a lift home be seen as inappropriate? Would a colleague coming to visit her when she isn't well be seen a overstepping some boundary? Would she be expected to stop being friends with him or working with him if her partner doesn't like him? Would wanting to confirm information before telling anyone be labelled wrong? Would she be expected to work on her relationship despite being treated badly?

These and some other such questions do come to my mind and I truly hope the answer is "No".

If you ask this to the actor playing he will say chote sheron mein aisa hota hai because this is what he has said in the past too!

Originally posted by: anoniya

Something I have observed, and I might be completely wrong here, is that people tend to view these kind of shows and their characters through quite a conservative lens.

While I understand there is a big difference between reel and real, but this isn't set in some dystopian world with different values, morals or sense of right & wrong. Would the same expectations be put on real women?

For instance, if we take the example of the actress playing Raavi. Would it be okay for her partner to have a say in who she can work with or be friends with? Would giving a thank-you-hug or taking a lift home be seen as inappropriate? Would a colleague coming to visit her when she isn't well be seen a overstepping some boundary? Would she be expected to stop being friends with him or working with him if her partner doesn't like him? Would wanting to confirm information before telling anyone be labelled wrong? Would she be expected to work on her relationship despite being treated badly?

These and some other such questions do come to my mind and I truly hope the answer is "No".

Why just Alice? Show is ensemble cast. All FLs are commited- Shiny is married. Simran is commited. Even Ankita is in relationship but she cleaned up her SM profile of those posts.

this special stress with detailed emphasis on just ‘actress playing Raavi’ why?

Off-screen baat

Alice and kanwar have no plans of getting married for 5 or 6 years atleast 😆

Originally posted by: spdp

One needs to be special sick mind to say:

“See: arnv feels for raavi : that’s why she said he is more than friend” Sick.

(Read this from some claimed ‘married working’ woman- which seems like fake claim)

This exact insinuating crap that is forced in this show, is appalling.

Dirtectly - indirectly they are pushing promoting character Assasination of a woman - why?

1. Because she works.

2. She enjoys her work & gives her 100% learning it.

3. She trusts people & sees good in people.

4. If a boss is creep - predator- it is still working woman’s fault?

Let me tell you: To those who stalk read here:

Blaming Raavi for Arnv’s ideas & feelings is same as blaming victim for crime commited against them.
One example: rape victims being blamed for it- chhote kapade pehne, friendly thi so …
Will put this out in Tland as well.

@bold - This is so wrong!
AFAIK, Raavi never gave any indication to Arnav that she likes him at any point, not at all, I will not agree to it. She always talked only about Shiva to him.

I can’t believe the writers turned the tables on Raavi and made it all her fault😔

Back then during 3rd angle track, same thing happened, the girl fell in love with Shiva, inspite of knowing that he is married and both went all the way to almost get engaged.

They are showing the same thing again except this time I want Raavi to be alert and not fall into any trap again. But it is too much to ask from these writers, They will make sure Raavi loses her self respect, honor, reputation again😔

Jaise KMji show ko ‘ progressive’ bolte hain

Waise hi essay-sinators have current favorite word: ‘psudo pheminist’

Originally posted by: spdp

Why just Alice? Show is ensemble cast. All FLs are commited- Shiny is married. Simran is commited. Even Ankita is in relationship but she cleaned up her SM profile of those posts.

this special stress with detailed emphasis on just ‘actress playing Raavi’ why?

I didn't have any wrong intention in that. I only took her example because she is playing that character, but naturally this applies to every working woman. I find the talks about how Raavi should "stay in her boundaries" and keep "strictly professional relations" with her colleagues upsetting.

Originally posted by: mpks1

@bold - This is so wrong!
AFAIK, Raavi never gave any indication to Arnav that she likes him at any point, not at all, I will not agree to it. She always talked only about Shiva to him.

I can’t believe the writers turned the tables on Raavi and made it all her fault😔

Back then during 3rd angle track, same thing happened, the girl fell in love with Shiva, inspite of knowing that he is married and both went all the way to almost get engaged.

They are showing the same thing again except this time I want Raavi to be alert and not fall into any trap again. But it is too much to ask from these writers, They will make sure Raavi loses her self respect, honor, reputation again😔

In their attempt to ensure their favourites are never wrong, these writers are making such mincemeat out of these characters. They are not likeable. They are not relatable. They are toxic. They are the exact kind of people I would want to avoid all my life.

The implication on working women that this tangent to the story gives is so disastrous. 😡

Originally posted by: .Sunrise.

If you ask this to the actor playing he will say chote sheron mein aisa hota hai because this is what he has said in the past too!

It's one thing to say this happens in all fictional shows but to justify it like this is just not right.

(I do apologise if I've hurt anyone's feelings by saying so.)