Virat gaslighting - Page 43

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

@ bold: There were multiple long shots of the cafe, where V was not present even camouflaged as a waiter (outfit). The last one was during the topic -- what will we say at the ptm, kids will come to know. Then there was another mid-shot when Sai exchanges cups.

During those two shots, P brought up -- we cannot hide from Savi for long and then Sai says I am "sahmat" with what you are saying, she cant break Savi's heart, then about Vaada and why it is ok to break it for Savi, then pahli baar we are thinking alike and then drink exchange, and hand hold.

So he got the gist, that P wanted Savi and Sai to leave and Sai came to understand P's perspective. Knowing Sai, her empathy, he assumes that she will run away again, hence the threat, using her insecurity against her. It would have worked but the word "teesri" ruined all his efforts.

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V's anger is justified (not the aggression, tho he hurt himself) esp after what he went thru losing baby Vinu. P has witnessed it. She has seen him take promise from even Kaku never to separate him from his daughter, not to even question the validity of her legitimacy. In spite of that she did "sazish". On the surface V does look like a villain, insane, menacing, but not even a saint can stay calm under these circumstances. He told Sai, ek baap ko aazma ke dekho ... and showed it to P, since she initiated it. Yes, it was scary but honestly I maybe in minority where it felt only human only a father's fear of losing his daughter, his "pyar ki nishani", his dream daughter and secretly losing Sai as well (tho he may not acknowledge or express it)

PS. Love all your reviews, it makes the episode more interesting

@Sherry, I googled "gaslighting" word too. In this epi V was as straight as possible. not a single jelebi.👏

Thanks ❤️

Moor mentioned gaslighting in her review.

I agree with you. I'm not sure on V being present though the 2nd shot that you spoke about, may seem lil like him. though can't be sure.

However, the way he spoke to Sai and P, it seemed he knew exactly what was spoken. What he said to Sai were completely in sync with what P had said. And the way he was getting more furious at P's denial it only showed how he knew that she was lying.

Yes. The impact of Teesri, was felt today. He had not realise that.

His anger is absolutely justified. He has been wronged. How else was he supposed to react at this level of betrayal.

Originally posted by: Shree15

Perception of truth

To understand the current episodes of Ghum, one need to go back to the pre leap days, the facades are off, the thing is each character has its own perception of truth and that changes from person to person and if one see it without the character bias, then it all make sense.......

For Sai the truth is Virat chose Pakhi above her and her son that day and that truth got concrete with them being husband wife post her leaving, her worst fear came true and she is leaving her worst fear, that's where the outbursts are coming, for her all the love she had for him and all the memories seemed farce.......

For Virat the truth is he chose to do what his family told him that day, the one who he got bailed out was no one but just a mere family member for him but Sai left him, even after all the love between them, Virat too is leaving his worst fear of Sai leaving him, her death news did gave him some repentance, infact he was at the calm and although he was just living a life without being alive, there was sense of peace in his heart and mind during that phase because of the blissful memories of years spent with Sai, his love was fulfilled as it seemed to him but when she reappear the fear actually came true that she did left him and didn't return all these years, the love, the memories alll seemed farce to him and the fact that she was alive and didn't consider him enough to let him know, shook him from inside and the Savi truth add more fuel to that fire and the volcano that erupt in his heart turned in the aggression we are seeing......

Both Sai and Virat are going through the heartbreak and betrayal of their beloved and are facing and living their worst fears in love, For Sai, it was Pakhi and for Virat, it was her leaving him, the clouds of misunderstanding will only get cleared when they see the perception of truth from the another person's lens, till then this will continue, Sai need to see that day from Virat's eyes and Virat from Sai's eyes, although I feel Virat is more at wrong, the thing is they both have ocean of love for each other but it's the compatibility and communication they lack, the biggest setback in their relationship is lack of communication, the day they will learn this art there will be no coming back for them.....

Regarding Pakhi too, both Sai and Virat had different version of truth, for Sai, Pakhi was Virat's lover, Sai always had that guilt that she came between Pakhi and Virat and for Virat, the chapter of Pakhi was long forgotten and he always saw her as his friend, his brother's wife and a family member, all the actions and interference of Pakhi in Sairat's marital life, Sai saw as an interference of jilted lover whereas Virat saw as an concern of a family member and a dear friend, that's where the miscommunication was and it did eat their relationship.........

Even now, they have different truth regarding Pakhi, for Sai, Pakhi is Virat's that lover whom he was always willing to unite and after her supposed death he unite with her, she considers herself to be a thorn whom Virat quickly got over after she left and for Virat, Pakhi is that family member and a friend who did wrong but had repentance and came to their help when needed the most......see for Virat and CN, Patralekha had repentance of her actions, she had her life ahead yet she sacrificed that life and tied knot with Virat in a loveless marriage so that Virat can adopt a child as per their pov...... that's the reason he is so grateful to her and respects her.......but what he doesn't see is she always wanted him, she didn't made any sacrifice, infact she got what she desired all along...........

Also, it is strongly established in the episodes that SAI AND VIRAT ARE NOT OVER EACH OTHER, audience expects them to talk and behave with each other softly and respectfully but how can they, when they are still burning in the love, till the time they have this unresolved issues and feelings they cannot be respectful to each other because they both held other one responsible for the breaking of their marriage, for Virat, it is Sai and For Sai, it is Virat, who is responsible to break something which was so precious and dear to them, one expects this maturity and respect from exes when they are over each other, which is not the case here, we can draw the parallel, Virat was always respectful to Pakhi after her marriage with Sam coz he was over her, whereas Pakhi always threw accusations and dirt at him because she was still burning in love that time.......Love is very strong emotion, it do take away the sense of right and wrong when a person is in extreme love to the point that he/she can even harm his/her lover in that emotion........

Also this is the reason why Virat deny working with Sai, it has nothing to do with Pakhi's insecurity but with his own emotions, he know he will lose the grip of his heart and his already week heart is not ready for another heartbreak, regarding Pakhi, he never understood Sai's insecurity because same the difference of truth, for him she was a friend and a family member, so he never got that reason that why Pakhi can be Sai's insecurity.........

PS: this is just a analysis post and no where I'm supporting the character traits irl but for me it's fiction so will take it as that......

Awesome piece of writing. And have similar thoughts on most of it. However I have a different view on the last part about him refusing to work with Sai. If this was the case he would not go after her all the time. I guess it has to do with P. Or even Sai. He does not want to instigate her at this point.

@ Bold - Really liked this explanation that you gave for them. And completely agree with you.

@ shree15 I just love your analysis girl .. this I believe is the right thought regarding Sai n virat but unfortunately they are going flip flop with confusing acting .

My warning levels is amazing .. and I can’t comment on each and every good post .. it has really frustrated me today .

Sherry you always post in my night time mostly I am in board with you but I don’t think virat deserves Sai at all . Till he feels the same pain of being teesra .. there is no getting back in this relationship

Very nicely expressed...it was perfect 👏

Thanks for tagging me always.

Love reading your reviews. ❤️

Originally posted by: Shree15

Perception of truth

To understand the current episodes of Ghum, one need to go back to the pre leap days, the facades are off, the thing is each character has its own perception of truth and that changes from person to person and if one see it without the character bias, then it all make sense.......

For Sai the truth is Virat chose Pakhi above her and her son that day and that truth got concrete with them being husband wife post her leaving, her worst fear came true and she is leaving her worst fear, that's where the outbursts are coming, for her all the love she had for him and all the memories seemed farce.......

For Virat the truth is he chose to do what his family told him that day, the one who he got bailed out was no one but just a mere family member for him but Sai left him, even after all the love between them, Virat too is leaving his worst fear of Sai leaving him, her death news did gave him some repentance, infact he was at the calm and although he was just living a life without being alive, there was sense of peace in his heart and mind during that phase because of the blissful memories of years spent with Sai, his love was fulfilled as it seemed to him but when she reappear the fear actually came true that she did left him and didn't return all these years, the love, the memories alll seemed farce to him and the fact that she was alive and didn't consider him enough to let him know, shook him from inside and the Savi truth add more fuel to that fire and the volcano that erupt in his heart turned in the aggression we are seeing......

Both Sai and Virat are going through the heartbreak and betrayal of their beloved and are facing and living their worst fears in love, For Sai, it was Pakhi and for Virat, it was her leaving him, the clouds of misunderstanding will only get cleared when they see the perception of truth from the another person's lens, till then this will continue, Sai need to see that day from Virat's eyes and Virat from Sai's eyes, although I feel Virat is more at wrong, the thing is they both have ocean of love for each other but it's the compatibility and communication they lack, the biggest setback in their relationship is lack of communication, the day they will learn this art there will be no coming back for them.....

Regarding Pakhi too, both Sai and Virat had different version of truth, for Sai, Pakhi was Virat's lover, Sai always had that guilt that she came between Pakhi and Virat and for Virat, the chapter of Pakhi was long forgotten and he always saw her as his friend, his brother's wife and a family member, all the actions and interference of Pakhi in Sairat's marital life, Sai saw as an interference of jilted lover whereas Virat saw as an concern of a family member and a dear friend, that's where the miscommunication was and it did eat their relationship.........

Even now, they have different truth regarding Pakhi, for Sai, Pakhi is Virat's that lover whom he was always willing to unite and after her supposed death he unite with her, she considers herself to be a thorn whom Virat quickly got over after she left and for Virat, Pakhi is that family member and a friend who did wrong but had repentance and came to their help when needed the most......see for Virat and CN, Patralekha had repentance of her actions, she had her life ahead yet she sacrificed that life and tied knot with Virat in a loveless marriage so that Virat can adopt a child as per their pov...... that's the reason he is so grateful to her and respects her.......but what he doesn't see is she always wanted him, she didn't made any sacrifice, infact she got what she desired all along...........

Also, it is strongly established in the episodes that SAI AND VIRAT ARE NOT OVER EACH OTHER, audience expects them to talk and behave with each other softly and respectfully but how can they, when they are still burning in the love, till the time they have this unresolved issues and feelings they cannot be respectful to each other because they both held other one responsible for the breaking of their marriage, for Virat, it is Sai and For Sai, it is Virat, who is responsible to break something which was so precious and dear to them, one expects this maturity and respect from exes when they are over each other, which is not the case here, we can draw the parallel, Virat was always respectful to Pakhi after her marriage with Sam coz he was over her, whereas Pakhi always threw accusations and dirt at him because she was still burning in love that time.......Love is very strong emotion, it do take away the sense of right and wrong when a person is in extreme love to the point that he/she can even harm his/her lover in that emotion........

Also this is the reason why Virat deny working with Sai, it has nothing to do with Pakhi's insecurity but with his own emotions, he know he will lose the grip of his heart and his already week heart is not ready for another heartbreak, regarding Pakhi, he never understood Sai's insecurity because same the difference of truth, for him she was a friend and a family member, so he never got that reason that why Pakhi can be Sai's insecurity.........

PS: this is just a analysis post and no where I'm supporting the character traits irl but for me it's fiction so will take it as that......

This is perfect. Agree with your analysis

So beautiful Shree...

I wish you would write more often 👍🏼

Very well written. Enjoyed reading it.

Please try to write often if you feel regarding the episodes.

Originally posted by: msin

I had felt the same regarding the dna report.. but vankar always gives some bakwas .. also in dNA boy girl ka distinction Ho jata hai even with hair samples .. so highly stupid plan

And need hair from root. Thats so painful to pluck. Here they just cut the edges.

Originally posted by: msin

@ shree15 I just love your analysis girl .. this I believe is the right thought regarding Sai n virat but unfortunately they are going flip flop with confusing acting .

My warning levels is amazing .. and I can’t comment on each and every good post .. it has really frustrated me today .

Sherry you always post in my night time mostly I am in board with you but I don’t think virat deserves Sai at all . Till he feels the same pain of being teesra .. there is no getting back in this relationship

Agree. I have maintained that bit. He doesn't deserve Sai. But if he did what he did post leap without a reason and out of anger and no reflection, then it makes it even worse for him to be forgiven by Sai.

Originally posted by: Sherry24

Agree. I have maintained that bit. He doesn't deserve Sai. But if he did what he did post leap without a reason and out of anger and no reflection, then it makes it even worse for him to be forgiven by Sai.

At this point..I think people will be more than happy to welcome an anuj kapadia type new ML for Sai.. bhabhi bhakth Raja babu is already a villain..even EK would've pitched in a new male lead..but here off screen politics dictate the story sadly.

P.S I was searching for your review of today's episode in msin's thread. Along with msin's and moor's .your's is one of the reviews that I look forward to every day❤️.Did I miss the post?