Allu Arjun leading Man and Ranveer the actor of the year by GQ India! - Page 15

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I know some movies can be really toxic and test your patience. If you want to watch nice and feel good movies of Allu Arjun, then watch Happy, Arya, Parugu and even Race gurram, you’ll really enjoy. Happy and Arya are going to be special ❤️

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Thanks for recommendations, SteFan, as I'm really interested to watch more movies of Arjun as just the two I've already watched. I read about Arya and Happy and they're already on my list, now I'll add Parugu and Race Gurram, too. 😊

I really like reading here about what all write about south Indian movies and what happened/happens in the Telugu filmindustry (also the political background is interesting as Andhra Pradesh was, I think, the first Indian state formed because of the common Telugu language).

Wow nepotism in south looks worse than nepotism in BW…

JW, I wouldn't say "worse" but organised in another way...

The argument about Sr. NTR going into politics and the rise of Chiranjeevi reminds me of the argument respective to SRK's rising when Amitji wasn't successful anymore and in a certain way "retired".

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

Charan and his wife decided to not have kids, I think I heard one of his talks where he said he supported the idea and this was a decision made by his wife and he’ll support her and respect her choice.

Yeah, anyway the legacy will continue, and most of their kids will be in movies but obviously only few will succeed, it’s more like they’ll have competition in their own family.

What? No kids? 😲

That’s a first. This is the first time I’m hearing that a celebrity doesn’t want to have kids. 😕

Rich people have access to surrogacy or nannies who can help them in raising their children unlike us middle class people where we have to multitask.

I think, there are women who just don't want a kid out of fear. One of those fears could be that - when having kids and loving them - one will always feel worries concerning their well-being (life-long) - and can't deal with that.

So, it's better to respect a woman's wish to not have children if she is adamant to not have one.

Originally posted by: MercurialMedusa

Curating stardom doesn't only mean producing movies for them.

Anyways you bringing NTR's retirement makes no sense to me. Are you implying just because NTR retired Chiranjeevi became a superstar? If that's what you trying to say then I disagree to it.

And regarding him stopping chiranjeevi from releasing movies the year PK made his debut then am sure that is what they collectively decided so that the fans warm up to the son like younger brother!

I have to put a disclaimer that my knowledge for the first paragraph can be pretty nascent because most of it is hearsay, no ground level knowledge as such. 😆

There is no doubt or question over Chiranjeevi's talent, effort, hardwork. Name it and all the characteristics required for an actor such as comedy, dance, mass swag he has excelled in all of them but even I have heard from multiple sources that Allu Aravind did plan his career in terms of movies to be done, dates to be allotted etc. after the marriage. Planning something does not have to be so shallow but to deny AA's contribution in Chiru's stardom, I believe might not to be right.

However I do completely agree with rdbfan1 regarding the padding phenomenon and privilege bestowed on some of the recent stars. I have mentioned it several times that the privilege is not discussed much enough in the Telugu films because the whole industry is basically a family and most of the recent stars superstars have had a lot of padding since the very beginning. Very very few actors zero down on a completely new director, one gives a blockbuster and every other star hero lines up. To add into the mix, there are literally caste based fan clubs which are so powerful that it won't be an exaggeration to say that the caste clout from cinema has gotten stronger and powerful over the time and it is hidden from none. The production,the distribution business is also a very strong clout and the reason why I don't give examples of Rana being humble because the way he functions is completely different, he did try to do something new at every point of his career, but nothing worked out as such, I don't think he aims to be a superstar, never did.. which is why he is okay with others taking the limelight and rightly so. He literally hosted something like KWK ,I mean he least conscious in that regard. Most of the other heroes are powerful when it comes to picking their heroines as well. AA has mentioned that he doesn't like repeating his heroines even.

They always seem humble for sure but they literally have the fans worshipping them and a lot of problematic parts of movies or otherwise are mostly ignored and not looked from a microscope.

In that respect Tarak jr has had it a bit tougher because I still remember the slight hesitation wrt to the latter's background when he first entered the industry, though he was introduced as the true heir but still the whispers were strong nevertheless.

Coming to PK even the flop films had striog impact and trends were started with respect to what he wore, how he spoke.

My god.. May Lord have mercy on the essay I have written. I promise this is going to be the last essay for the TFI. 😆

Originally posted by: SteFanSalvaTor

I’m really confused, so it means Allu Arvind isn’t the only reason for Allu Arjun, Chiranjeevi or any of the mega stars to be superstars right? That’s what I’ve been saying, the debate is interesting though, I don’t know much about the industry as a whole, but I know that when I started watching telugu films, or most of my friends, we liked Arjun and we didn’t know about him being a part of the mega family. But it’s nice to know that the family legacy goes beyond decades and also will probably continue, also Charan will never have kids so next generation it’ll be Allu’s kids and probably Chiranjeevi’s daughters’ kids in the industry 😆

For the love of god I’m just glad, Pushpa isn’t a geetha arts movie. Otherwise people would say daddy made him into pan India star 😆

Arey but how can one person be the sole reason for somebody becoming a superstar? It is just not possible but to discredit all the background work that happens to make them what they are is just not right. I mean I do not believe Ranbir is a superstar but the part that he is being shoved down is just something else. He literally was a rage during the YJHD Barfi timeframe, everybody used to quote him as their favourite actor(partly the reason why I do not like him) , he couldn't sustain that momentum is a different issue but stars even if are pushed, need to be loved by the audience to become stars.

Originally posted by: TheekThaak

I have to put a disclaimer that my knowledge for the first paragraph can be pretty nascent because most of it is hearsay, no ground level knowledge as such. 😆

There is no doubt or question over Chiranjeevi's talent, effort, hardwork. Name it and all the characteristics required for an actor such as comedy, dance, mass swag he has excelled in all of them but even I have heard from multiple sources that Allu Aravind did plan his career in terms of movies to be done, dates to be allotted etc. after the marriage. Planning something does not have to be so shallow but to deny AA's contribution in Chiru's stardom, I believe might not to be right.

However I do completely agree with rdbfan1 regarding the padding phenomenon and privilege bestowed on some of the recent stars. I have mentioned it several times that the privilege is not discussed much enough in the Telugu films because the whole industry is basically a family and most of the recent stars superstars have had a lot of padding since the very beginning. Very very few actors zero down on a completely new director, one gives a blockbuster and every other star hero lines up. To add into the mix, there are literally caste based fan clubs which are so powerful that it won't be an exaggeration to say that the caste clout from cinema has gotten stronger and powerful over the time and it is hidden from none. The production,the distribution business is also a very strong clout and the reason why I don't give examples of Rana being humble because the way he functions is completely different, he did try to do something new at every point of his career, but nothing worked out as such, I don't think he aims to be a superstar, never did.. which is why he is okay with others taking the limelight and rightly so. He literally hosted something like KWK ,I mean he least conscious in that regard. Most of the other heroes are powerful when it comes to picking their heroines as well. AA has mentioned that he doesn't like repeating his heroines even.

They always seem humble for sure but they literally have the fans worshipping them and a lot of problematic parts of movies or otherwise are mostly ignored and not looked from a microscope.

In that respect Tarak jr has had it a bit tougher because I still remember the slight hesitation wrt to the latter's background when he first entered the industry, though he was introduced as the true heir but still the whispers were strong nevertheless.

Coming to PK even the flop films had striog impact and trends were started with respect to what he wore, how he spoke.

Bigger issue in south is not nepotism but casteism. It's way too deep rooted and only getting worse. Southern stars may appear simpler when compared to their bolly counterparts but they are no less the only difference is that they fight their battles through the fans n fanclubs and act all friendly among themselves main reason being everyone being related to everyone.

Originally posted by: simplyrdb

Pity Allu Aravind couldn't curate the career of Naga Babu, Chiranjeevi's brother, who debuted as a hero. Or for him, who couldn't become a hero. He had expressed the desire a few times. Or make Geetha Arts (the production house) big despite being launched several years before Chiranjeevi's debut. Pity he couldn't use the same narrative (Allu Ramalingaiah's legacy career) from Allu Arjun's debut.

Stardom, Superstar status back then can't be compared or seen with today's lens. One reached 'Superstar' status after years of hard work and consistency as a 'star'. Chiranjeevi was 'talented' and got recognition and box office success within his first few releases. A trait common with all 'stars' back in those days.

He stood out in supporting/negative parts. He had done a K Balachandar movie before marriage itself. But, more than that, he had done 10 films in a year before marriage and had another ten on floors. Only the really accepted heroes, aka stars could get/do so many films in those days. A lesser-accepted hero/star will be doing slightly fewer films (varying according to the respective industry standards). Chiranjeevi was a young star by the time of marriage itself. Again, he did not become a 'Superstar' right after marriage. It is the same with, say, Rajinikanth, who got anointed as Superstar after more than sixty films.

Heck, even someone like Mohan Babu (a non-existent star currently) reached big stardom without any support after years of hard work. He gave big blockbusters and, at his peak, beat Chiranjeevi's movie and delivered Industry Hit. He couldn't maintain consistency and faded out eventually. Vikram had a similar career. Vijay Deverakonda might have a similar career, though much more difficult now to become number one. The bottom line is that once established as a talented actor with stardom there is no looking back, with or without backing.

The Sr Allu narrative is a very recent one and directed at those who have no clue about the past. There have been many legendary comedians, supporting actors, and character artists in Telugu cinema. Who can be bigger than SVR in that regard? Everyone had goodwill in the industry, but they are obsolete now, everyone except SVR. But do people remember his grandson's debut? The same would be the case with Allu without two and half decades of Chiru. His stardom helped Allu Aravind establish/strengthen the framework that is now helping the current generation. It is not the other way around.

I agree with this,

chiranjeevi is very much self made and allu aravind owns his big time success and clout to him because he held the access to chiru not the other way round. did allu aravind manage his career well after the wedding, yes and credit for that

chiranjeevi, studied in film school, struggled in chennnai, worked with makers like viswanath and balachander in negative roles, continued doing off beat roles afetr he became a star, ione of the few who combined both star power, dance skills and acting skills in all genres.

allu ramalingiaiah was a solid supporrting actor but not the level of the top category like svr or even a prakash raj, actors bigger then him like sobhan babu or vanisri have been forgotten, the reason he is talked about is only because chiranjeevi and allu family are successful now.

when children of big super stars have failed how can being son in law of a supporting actor really give huge benefits