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Originally posted by: Shree15

As people are discussing Ashwini's behaviour, I've slightly different opinion regarding her behaviour and the views regarding Vinu's accident and blame of it on Sai........

Firstly, I am against the normalisation of blaming any particular person for the accident, Accident is called accident for a reason, it doesn't have any intention to cause harm but it happens without the control of situation, here People are discussing that Sai will be or should be guilty when she comes to know about Vinu and his situation but I'm in a view that why should Sai feel guilty or anybody should make her guilty, did she know about the accident, was it in her hands, the Answer is No, here Sai is equally the victim of the situation as the Vinu, she's also Victim, then how can a Victim be accused and why it is normalised.....

I'm slightly differing and talk about a real life situation which I myself saw, one of my friend had a car accident, the driver of the car was his younger cousin and unfortunately his cousin lost the life but my friend survived, now the thing he blamed himself for the accident bcoz it was his car and it was him who asked his cousin to drive, he blamed himself for his death and was in depression for a very longer period, so it's very sensitive, the Accident usually affect the pyche of Survivers, and it's extremely problematic when Accident Survivers are blamed for the death of the Accident deceased or for the situation, they're in guilt that why they survived and hence the care is needed from the family members to let them come out of that zone.........

And coming to the show, it's extremely problematic if makers are setting the narrative to blame Sai for all that happened or if people are thinking that she should be guilty, and also I'm content that she didn't go back to Chavans, coz they are certainly not her family, they would've accused her instead comforting her, she would have been guilt ridden for taking the life of her own son, which was not even in her hands, and that guilt would've certainly killed her and her foetus, so what she did was extremely right, she not only saved her life but Savi's also .....

Now coming to Ashwini, I find her extremely shallow woman with a weak personality and morals, her all the reasons to hate Sai and ask Virat to move on with Pakhi are completely baseless, earlier I was able to understand her pov when leap started but now No, her all actions are Petty and make her heartless human, because the fact the she's still badmouthing and cursing a person, who is not even in the world after so many years of her demise, people generally pray even for their enemies post their death, here she's still cursing Sai, whom she considered her daughter, let's forget her, but Sai, she did consider her a mother figure, and what an insult to that stature.....which mother badmouths their child post her death, and if the reason is Vinu's demise and Virat's condition, then the First person she should hate is Pakhi, she was the major reason behind all this, she should've thrown her out of the house, but no she's all pally with her and hence her reasoning to hate Sai becomes totally shallow, if she would be hating both Pakhi and Sai for creating rucks in her Son's life, then I would sympathize with her and understand her, but not now.....

And what Ashwini as a mother should've done after Sai's presumed death, was to ask Virat to forget all the bad memories with Sai, remember only good times with her, to ask him remember the happiness and contentment she brought rather what she took away, it helps when person is suffering from extreme trauma of someone's death, she should've told him to accept the reality as a call of destiny and God, should've asked him to pray for the peace of his son and his wife's soul that they get contentment in another realm, should've turned him to spirituality, these things sooth the heart and help in lessen the pain of closed one's death but rather what she did, constant blaming and shaming of Sai for taking away Vinu and going away herself, constant crying and screaming and pushing him towards Pakhi who was the main reason for all the fiasco, asking him to forget Sai, these things instead of helping Virat, pained him more, his pain became more sharp, and he stopped opening up to her, coz he certainly didn't like her ways........

So as far my understanding Ashwini is a bad bad mother to Virat, forget Sai, she's not even mother to her, but she wronged her own son, her ways were extremely problematic to deal with his Son's grief and that instead of helping him to recover that grief, that grief became more and more painful to him......

Ps: Sorry for long post 🙃

POINT is no one should blame a dead person no matter what even if she is your worst enemy..The way people normalize both Virat and aswini is jarring ...A mother never can blame anyone..Fate took both Sai and Vinu away..Sai had no hands in it...

How inhumane it is to normalize abusing a dead person..someone who is no longer ,how she is supposed to justify herself...

i have been observing some comments since yesterday ...problem lies within us ..Because we are the one consuming such such toxic story... totally sickening

Originally posted by: Shree15

As people are discussing Ashwini's behaviour, I've slightly different opinion regarding her behaviour and the views regarding Vinu's accident and blame of it on Sai........

Firstly, I am against the normalisation of blaming any particular person for the accident, Accident is called accident for a reason, it doesn't have any intention to cause harm but it happens without the control of situation, here People are discussing that Sai will be or should be guilty when she comes to know about Vinu and his situation but I'm in a view that why should Sai feel guilty or anybody should make her guilty, did she know about the accident, was it in her hands, the Answer is No, here Sai is equally the victim of the situation as the Vinu, she's also Victim, then how can a Victim be accused and why it is normalised.....

I'm slightly differing and talk about a real life situation which I myself saw, one of my friend had a car accident, the driver of the car was his younger cousin and unfortunately his cousin lost the life but my friend survived, now the thing he blamed himself for the accident bcoz it was his car and it was him who asked his cousin to drive, he blamed himself for his death and was in depression for a very longer period, so it's very sensitive, the Accident usually affect the pyche of Survivers, and it's extremely problematic when Accident Survivers are blamed for the death of the Accident deceased or for the situation, they're in guilt that why they survived and hence the care is needed from the family members to let them come out of that zone.........

And coming to the show, it's extremely problematic if makers are setting the narrative to blame Sai for all that happened or if people are thinking that she should be guilty, and also I'm content that she didn't go back to Chavans, coz they are certainly not her family, they would've accused her instead comforting her, she would have been guilt ridden for taking the life of her own son, which was not even in her hands, and that guilt would've certainly killed her and her foetus, so what she did was extremely right, she not only saved her life but Savi's also .....

Now coming to Ashwini, I find her extremely shallow woman with a weak personality and morals, her all the reasons to hate Sai and ask Virat to move on with Pakhi are completely baseless, earlier I was able to understand her pov when leap started but now No, her all actions are Petty and make her heartless human, because the fact the she's still badmouthing and cursing a person, who is not even in the world after so many years of her demise, people generally pray even for their enemies post their death, here she's still cursing Sai, whom she considered her daughter, let's forget her, but Sai, she did consider her a mother figure, and what an insult to that stature.....which mother badmouths their child post her death, and if the reason is Vinu's demise and Virat's condition, then the First person she should hate is Pakhi, she was the major reason behind all this, she should've thrown her out of the house, but no she's all pally with her and hence her reasoning to hate Sai becomes totally shallow, if she would be hating both Pakhi and Sai for creating rucks in her Son's life, then I would sympathize with her and understand her, but not now.....

And what Ashwini as a mother should've done after Sai's presumed death, was to ask Virat to forget all the bad memories with Sai, remember only good times with her, to ask him remember the happiness and contentment she brought rather what she took away, it helps when person is suffering from extreme trauma of someone's death, she should've told him to accept the reality as a call of destiny and God, should've asked him to pray for the peace of his son and his wife's soul that they get contentment in another realm, should've turned him to spirituality, these things sooth the heart and help in lessen the pain of closed one's death but rather what she did, constant blaming and shaming of Sai for taking away Vinu and going away herself, constant crying and screaming and pushing him towards Pakhi who was the main reason for all the fiasco, asking him to forget Sai, these things instead of helping Virat, pained him more, his pain became more sharp, and he stopped opening up to her, coz he certainly didn't like her ways........

So as far my understanding Ashwini is a bad bad mother to Virat, forget Sai, she's not even mother to her, but she wronged her own son, her ways were extremely problematic to deal with his Son's grief and that instead of helping him to recover that grief, that grief became more and more painful to him......

Ps: Sorry for long post 🙃

This is perfectly written. I feel anyone who has lost family member accidentally will understand that what they are showing is total stupidity.

My aunt passed away and my uncle was so shattered that he lost will to live kept crying for her in exact one year (same month year after) he passed away. None of my family members blamed his wife for making him weak. That was his love n attachment to her. They try to make him understand cheer him but not a single person blamed her.

I said this before- death is an extreme situation, when you loose someone after events like this, you would be guilt ridden. For not listening to that person n letting her go. Whole family should have been for siding with PL, calling Sai names. Virat’s status makes sense but them blaming Sai doesn’t.

Now when he saw Sai alive, instead of being happy he is on blame game that Vinu lost coz of her. This is his reaction after 5/7/8/9 yrs of him loosing Sai n hurting for her. Imagine she went back after accident, they would have killed her. Physical violence like after Sam death, mental abuse. Virat ghosting her post miscarriage, so she had no hope that she will be supported. She would have lost third baby! THIRD! its no joke!

I think she made a wise decision by not going back. ANY SANE MOTHER WOULD DO THAT! Third baby just think about it! How is she at fault???

Fact that they are not even touching what PL did is infuriating. She was reason for all this but everything starts with Sai left as if she left coz she was denied icecream.
Once again they made Sai go through extreme pain but choose to shove it under the rug cause PL has to be positive n Virat is ML.

Originally posted by: Shaome

POINT is no one should blame a dead person no matter what even if she is your worst enemy..The way people normalize both Virat and aswini is jarring ...A mother never can blame anyone..Fate took both Sai and Vinu away..Sai had no hands in it...

How inhumane it is to normalize abusing a dead person..someone who is no longer ,how she is supposed to justify herself...

i have been observing some comments since yesterday ...problem lies within us ..Because we are the one consuming such such toxic story... totally sickening

This is effect of dragged episodes. People tend to forget reality. We discussing it day n night forget so imagine how TRP audience is getting over.

They r playing it smartly- suddenly they r showing Virat’s pain n PL as victims, dialogues r not even mentioning PL’s act, she is ww. Sai’s smallest mistakes r highlighted. They sont give Sai strong dialogues either. She doesn’t go beyond he didn’t come looking for me. So everyone feels ya whatever happened kash Sai didn’t leave that day.
Thats reason why many shifting from Sai should never forgive Virat to both are at fault.

This was their tried tested way in Shruti track n they will do that again. Sai abuse is going to be unbearable this time. Hopefully kids be saving factor n Chavans behave.

Originally posted by: Sab04

This is effect of dragged episodes. People tend to forget reality. We discussing it day n night forget so imagine how TRP audience is getting over.

They r playing it smartly- suddenly they r showing Virat’s pain n PL as victims, dialogues r not even mentioning PL’s act, she is ww. Sai’s smallest mistakes r highlighted. They sont give Sai strong dialogues either. She doesn’t go beyond he didn’t come looking for me. So everyone feels ya whatever happened kash Sai didn’t leave that day.
Thats reason why many shifting from Sai should never forgive Virat to both are at fault.

This was their tried tested way in Shruti track n they will do that again. Sai abuse is going to be unbearable this time. Hopefully kids be saving factor n Chavans behave.

See thats the ITV pattern but over here its too much ...No wonder No show can ever bit Anupama..Makers have crass understanding of the characters...On top of that favoritism..They get sadistic pleasure by torturing women ...Thats what they did during surrogacy track ,subtle way insulted infertile ladies...

There is no balance between toxicity and positivity..The only good person is Sai and the rest are too black even the hero..Sai is young and beautiful how no other man in her life...

Makers do not seem to understand the word name "Karma"..Virat and Pakhi are having everything in their life..Pakhi is not getting punished for her umpteen sins but got whatever she wanted served in a platter..

yes we are just wasting our time discussing day and night...

To me no matter what both Virat and pakhi never can evoke sympathy...Both have equal hands in ruining both Sai and Samrat lives..How shameful he did not even thought about his beloved dead brother before marrying pakhi..

This Vinayak cant be the one they lost. In one year FB he looks 2-3 yrs old.

I feel actually they should keep it that way. Hope Virat realize it was his stupidity to let PL be surrogate n support her so much that Sai left n they lost a kid. (Sounds horrible but needed) MOST importantly they need to show him realize that but seeing the narrative it seems Sai will be blamed cause PL is best mother bahu and wife.

Originally posted by: nutmeg7

Kya hi faraq padega. They always blame her for everything that goes wrong. They will even blame her for Queen Elizabeth's demise

Nutty abhi to failed santra deal ka blame bhi aana hai kyunki uski wajah se ladli bahu disturb hui naa🤣

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

They still haven't changed the montage. They're only showing the one on SM where only pakhi and sai's positions are changed.

They have not started using the rose burning promo and pakhi being smaller.

Don't know if it was a trick to get hype or something.

Don't think they've any plans of changing the montage.

Noticed that in Star ki insta post. They have shot it so will use it but kabse kiaa pata. I think they want to maintain the suspense factor till the story unravels...still can play rose burning one

Hahahahaha

Originally posted by: Shree15

As people are discussing Ashwini's behaviour, I've slightly different opinion regarding her behaviour and the views regarding Vinu's accident and blame of it on Sai........

Firstly, I am against the normalisation of blaming any particular person for the accident, Accident is called accident for a reason, it doesn't have any intention to cause harm but it happens without the control of situation, here People are discussing that Sai will be or should be guilty when she comes to know about Vinu and his situation but I'm in a view that why should Sai feel guilty or anybody should make her guilty, did she know about the accident, was it in her hands, the Answer is No, here Sai is equally the victim of the situation as the Vinu, she's also Victim, then how can a Victim be accused and why it is normalised.....

I'm slightly differing and talk about a real life situation which I myself saw, one of my friend had a car accident, the driver of the car was his younger cousin and unfortunately his cousin lost the life but my friend survived, now the thing he blamed himself for the accident bcoz it was his car and it was him who asked his cousin to drive, he blamed himself for his death and was in depression for a very longer period, so it's very sensitive, the Accident usually affect the pyche of Survivers, and it's extremely problematic when Accident Survivers are blamed for the death of the Accident deceased or for the situation, they're in guilt that why they survived and hence the care is needed from the family members to let them come out of that zone.........

And coming to the show, it's extremely problematic if makers are setting the narrative to blame Sai for all that happened or if people are thinking that she should be guilty, and also I'm content that she didn't go back to Chavans, coz they are certainly not her family, they would've accused her instead comforting her, she would have been guilt ridden for taking the life of her own son, which was not even in her hands, and that guilt would've certainly killed her and her foetus, so what she did was extremely right, she not only saved her life but Savi's also .....

Now coming to Ashwini, I find her extremely shallow woman with a weak personality and morals, her all the reasons to hate Sai and ask Virat to move on with Pakhi are completely baseless, earlier I was able to understand her pov when leap started but now No, her all actions are Petty and make her heartless human, because the fact the she's still badmouthing and cursing a person, who is not even in the world after so many years of her demise, people generally pray even for their enemies post their death, here she's still cursing Sai, whom she considered her daughter, let's forget her, but Sai, she did consider her a mother figure, and what an insult to that stature.....which mother badmouths their child post her death, and if the reason is Vinu's demise and Virat's condition, then the First person she should hate is Pakhi, she was the major reason behind all this, she should've thrown her out of the house, but no she's all pally with her and hence her reasoning to hate Sai becomes totally shallow, if she would be hating both Pakhi and Sai for creating rucks in her Son's life, then I would sympathize with her and understand her, but not now.....

And what Ashwini as a mother should've done after Sai's presumed death, was to ask Virat to forget all the bad memories with Sai, remember only good times with her, to ask him remember the happiness and contentment she brought rather what she took away, it helps when person is suffering from extreme trauma of someone's death, she should've told him to accept the reality as a call of destiny and God, should've asked him to pray for the peace of his son and his wife's soul that they get contentment in another realm, should've turned him to spirituality, these things sooth the heart and help in lessen the pain of closed one's death but rather what she did, constant blaming and shaming of Sai for taking away Vinu and going away herself, constant crying and screaming and pushing him towards Pakhi who was the main reason for all the fiasco, asking him to forget Sai, these things instead of helping Virat, pained him more, his pain became more sharp, and he stopped opening up to her, coz he certainly didn't like her ways........

So as far my understanding Ashwini is a bad bad mother to Virat, forget Sai, she's not even mother to her, but she wronged her own son, her ways were extremely problematic to deal with his Son's grief and that instead of helping him to recover that grief, that grief became more and more painful to him......

Ps: Sorry for long post 🙃

You have penned the accident point so beautifully. See Sai wasn't at mistake for the accident or loss of Vinu. Because her son also lost life. Savi came otherwise just imagine what would have been happened to her.

If they are trying shruti fiasco narrative where blame will be on Sai then again trp will slip. Audience loves fierce Sai. Now she is a mother, want her to be all time strong.

They are trying to shove down our throats that P is a changed woman by whitewash...more they do it more I hate her.

Ashwini no words...as a mother how can she accept P who is the root cause of all the mess in her Son's life. As a mother her role you perfectly wrote.

Originally posted by: Mayagujral

Hahahahaha

These hindi titles🤣🤣