Divorce Ho jana chahiye - Page 21

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Even after knowing this I am watching with the hope that Vankar won’t do it . Isn’t this stupidity. Plaese do t read further if you don’t like negative predictions

Rumors are out that generational leap is planned and this is the last track for current generation. For leap to happen there needs to someone with Savi in the same household to compete with her and that child might be Virakhi’s biological kid . I am now very sure that this track will end with Pakhi giving birth to Virat’s child and mostly existing the show . This also explains why Vankar is not invested in Sairat because the show will focus on new leads

Are no no, Virakhi biological child is far fetched, although not rulling out the possibility knowing Vankar, but still, itna aage nhi jayega inka😳

Because of logical reasons, see if they wanted Virakhi child then they would've not go for Surrogacy, after Sai's infertility detection, they had very big chance, Sai and Virat was vulnerable, specially Sai, and I was legit fearing that she would ask him to sleep with Pakhi for child during his depression, but thankfully it did not happen like that, plus as I mentioned earlier they wanted Pakhi to give birth to Virat's child but also didn't want to assissante his character and hence they brought Surrogacy as a middle ground, technically it was Sairat child, but it was Virakhi who was involved in everything from Pregnancy to childbirth to upbringing, So Vinu is that "Virakhi child" which you are talking about, there will be no another 😆

Also, if we see it from generation leap perspective and as a rival to Savi, then also it's not possible, here it's not like Akshara-Aarohi from Yrkkh, when both the girl were of same age, here Savi is already 5-6, if Virakhi biological child comes, then she'll be 7 by then, so technically if they show gen leap, and show Savi as around 20 years old then this supposed Virakhi kid will be of 13 at that time, there's no ITv kind of rivalry is possible between them from any angle, I guess.....

And for the rivalry part in CN, if it ever generation leap then it will be Kaku vs Savi, that's it, I don't see any sisters rivalry in Ghum in future.......🤓

Originally posted by: Shree15

Are no no, Virakhi biological child is far fetched, although not rulling out the possibility knowing Vankar, but still, itna aage nhi jayega inka😳

Because of logical reasons, see if they wanted Virakhi child then they would've not go for Surrogacy, after Sai's infertility detection, they had very big chance, Sai and Virat was vulnerable, specially Sai, and I was legit fearing that she would ask him to sleep with Pakhi for child during his depression, but thankfully it did not happen like that, plus as I mentioned earlier they wanted Pakhi to give birth to Virat's child but also didn't want to assissante his character and hence they brought Surrogacy as a middle ground, technically it was Sairat child, but it was Virakhi who was involved in everything from Pregnancy to childbirth to upbringing, So Vinu is that "Virakhi child" which you are talking about, there will be no another 😆

Also, if we see it from generation leap perspective and as a rival to Savi, then also it's not possible, here it's not like Akshara-Aarohi from Yrkkh, when both the girl were of same age, here Savi is already 5-6, if Virakhi biological child comes, then she'll be 7 by then, so technically if they show gen leap, and show Savi as around 20 years old then this supposed Virakhi kid will be of 13 at that time, there's no ITv kind of rivalry is possible between them from any angle, I guess.....

And for the rivalry part in CN, if it ever generation leap then it will be Kaku vs Savi, that's it, I don't see any sisters rivalry in Ghum in future.......🤓

Vinu cannot be the lead for next generation as he is the male and FL are the ones that take story forward .

Symbolism or another Mockery?

@Moor I'm not sure if I can explain my overall sentiments about the episode. Because my discomfort over certain aspects is playing heavy on the logical bit in giving an unbiased one word opinion. :-(

But your post had a feel good tone to it. ❤️ So putting down my thoughts. For the very reason, writing this in sections.. Facts , symbolism and the inferences i have drawn from these.

Facts

1. Chavans have clearly moved on. No one even mentions Sai. Not even in during good moments. Time heals and that is how its works. Sai is considered dead and they probably did mourn and over time they did get over.

2. Virat and P's marriage is real but they have not consummated - When I saw the wedding pic, it looked like a court wedding (for its simplicity). Hence the chances that it was not registered and only a lie told to the family. But how V apologised to P for calling her/still remembering Sai proved that they are. But the separate beds and the way they are in the privacy of their room says that their marriage is only name sake. He respects their marriage and P as his wife but his heart is unable to accept her as his wife.

3. V is still mourning Sai - V's constant flashbacks are proof that Sai is still his love and he is unable to leave the past behind.

4. Sai is still stuck in her past - Her sentiments should not be confused with hatred. She is angry...furious at Virat for not coming in search for her. And she is adamant to keep Savi away from him and Chavans

5. Sai acknowledges that Jagtap is reformed. But she is still keeping him at bay. She hasn't forgiven him but has reached a stage where she can be in the same space as him. She also allows Savi to have her individual bond with him too.

6. Ashwini is aware of the status of Virakhi marriage. And she wants V to move ahead with P and forget his past with Sai.

7. There is no mention or memory of Sai in CN and Sai never utters V's name. Next week will the first

8. Sai feels that Vinu is either lost or dead. But she is not hoping that he is with V.

Signs and Symbolism

Bappa with Shiv and Parvati (Happy Family) - Both kids placing the murti and wishing for happy family. Savi asking to be united with her baba.

During the aarti the zoom in and out of Sai and Savi's picture

My thoughts

There is too much of signs that are pointing towards the union. But, it is too obvious a conclusion and there is enough history for us to believe the twisted implications or sheer disregard of the same. They are mostly used to either portray a false probability or to indirectly imply that they are mere superstitions. But will still take a shot (habits die hard 😉)

The murti symbolises happy family but........Kartikeya is missing. It is not complete still. Moor/Msin while I do not disagree to the possibility of the fasle rumour about adoption but contrary to your predictions I do see a possibility.

I'm approaching this from 2 lenses.

Assuming there is no adoption. Each parent has one child with them and unaware of the existence of the other. Hence only Ganpati is with the parents. Kartikeya is said to have been upset with his father and left his parents and shifted his abode to south. So each of the child is the Kartikeya to the other parent, the one who doesn't reside with them.

Adoption theory. Vinayak is missing/or presumed dead. Hence not part of the happy family. It is only Savi. Vinayak is with them but yet to be discovered. So while he is with the family, he is not "Kartikeya" to them. His truth as their biological son is yet to be known to everyone to make it a family of four. Vinayak is the scoring point of Chavans against Sai. They can hold her responsible for the loss of the child. And it will also increase P's stake on Vinu. But another reason that favours this theory is how the zoom in and out of Sai-Savi picture was done. V moves away saying "abhi aata hoon" to Vinu before going to do aarti. This is the promo, 2 families waiting for V. P-Vinu is one and Sai-Savi is the other. And the murti is of 3. So Vinu stays with P. It is only if he is adopted that P can hold him as her family. And V will be shuffling between these two families

Going by the "No adoption theory", Vinu was found, and V was content being a single parent. But the family is worried for him. Mansi is concerned about P's future, so she takes a promise from V that he will marry P and let her be the mother to Vinu. Honouring her last wish V married P. This would be the justification against those loopholes you mentioned Moor. Why V couldn’t bring his child on his own or let P be his kaki.

But this could also go with the adoption theory as well.

Coming to Chavans. It is justified. People die, but life moves on. Brutal truth. Ashwini is seeking out for her son's happiness...a genuine concern of a mother. Virat still missing Sai while he is married to someone ....his love for Sai that transcends death.

V honours his marriage to someone and gives her that respect. He is apologetic to her as he is unable to move on from Sai and give her the love of a husband. Again fair..and unfair to the other "someone"

But in all this what is unfair is, that woman is "P". Anybody else would have been acceptable. Like I said even SH. But V getting married to P is the biggest deceit and disrespect they can show to Sai. And that is where even Ashwini is completely dark. She has accepted the woman who she knew was the cause of all this. Will a mother (with true feelings) forgive someone who brought this upon her child and allow something like this? I don't think so. So Sai was never Sai or a daughter for her. She was V's wife. She was and is a selfish mother of V. Is this how BK and Chavans punished P for her deeds? By giving her everything she desired and for which went to such lengths? Whatever happened to the case? In an ideal scenario even Sai would have wanted V to move on if she died. But the love and acceptance of the family and V taking her up as his wife will be something that will add fuel to her already raging heart.

Like you asked Moor, what was the need to remove Sai's pics. Is it that they hate Sai and cannot forgive her. So they don't want to be reminded of her? While moving on after a dear ones death is justified, does it mean that you completely forget the person? If Nagesh, Samrat and Mansi can adorn the walls of Chavans Niwas why not Sai. Marrying someone else doesn't mean that you have to completely remove the dead person's memories. So then why only Sai? While Virat may move on, but why does he have to forget his first wife and hold no memories or mention of her? What that discrimination for a wife or Sai specifically here? No one says that after death a person should be forgotten. In fact they are kept alive in memories and remembered especially during special occasions. Here they want to dispel Sai completely. Like she never existed. Why? And that is so unfair of the entire Chavan Clan. Why could V not shift to another room? If they removed all memories does that room not have any? How did he allow anyone to remove ever single sign of Sai and redo the room and then allow "P" to co-habit with him in that room. Can he be more cruel to Sai..the one he claims to love ..even in death? V is utterly disgusting here. Should Sai even forgive for this?

Now for whatever reasons Sai comes to stay, while she will keep her self respect and maintain the status of an ex. But we know they will show V and P stay in that room while Sai stays in CN. And V even with that supposed awkwardness and sadness stay with P in that room. I know this has not happened, but it will. If he had even an ounce of shame and guilt, he would not be staying in that room or with P? How much more of his carcass is left to be butchered? No amount of guilt and tears can justify that action. If the family really cared, they would ensure that the sleeping arrangements are changed before Sai came. But we can expect none of those reasonable things right?

Virat is still in love with Sai. But where is the repentance? Has he had no reflection on his mistakes? It seems like he hasn't. He is only sad about losing Sai, with the only thought that he could have possibly stopped Sai (this was when he found a piece of her Saree and thought her to be dead). If he did, and if he was guilty of bringing this upon Sai how can he even forgive P and take her up as his wife. and let her be a mother to Vinu?

Sai is bitter and angry at V. Except becoming a doctor, Sai got nothing but suffering from this relationship. So is right in saying V spoilt her life. She feels he didn’t come looking for her. I feel that she did stay in GC for sometime before moving out. She is right in her own way. And her fear is justified. She lost 2 of her babies, and V had a role in both. Hence, she is scared for Savi and is only protecting her.

But it is the betrayal, and V's disregard for her that has caused it. However, the fact is she is bitter, because deep down she still hold feelings for him. Which is the reason she has never moved on from that day she left CN, and never given herself a chance to herself in that sphere. She is stuck there, she is still hung up on him.

Drawing a parallel between Sai's current sentiments for V and Jagtap to explain this. Jagtap is directly responsible for eliminating 2 most loved people in her life. While she feels he has reformed, she is not letting him close. For her he is non-existent. He may live in some corner, she may not even care or even think. Whereas Sai is constantly burning in the fire of her anger towards Virat. He still affects her. Unfortunately because she still loves him.

Jagtap is here to repay for his deeds. He will be protecting her from the politician. While Sai may have to face some accusations and linking to him, he will eventually get them together (if that is supposed to happen). That will be his most important role in this appearance. And yes, like you said Moor, may be die in the process. His redemption.

The politician might blackmail Sai, by saying he will reveal her truth to Chavans

P.S - I'm not pro Jagtap or favouring him. This is purely a comparison.

Just wondering, while P is so loved and cherished by Chavans and forgiven and accepted by V as his wife, how can they accuse Sai if she forgives. If their excuse for P is, that she is reformed then so is Jagtap. If she can be forgiven and given another chance then why not Jagtap? Same argument right? Or because Samrat died and Sai didn't. Or because Sai is not important enough? A crime is a crime, so why be selective in forgiving?

V married P, Sai still keeps him away. Is there even a comparison here?

Like some of us had predicted on this much before the leap. P's karma is hitting her. Today she has everything that she wanted. V is her husband, but she does not have him in real. He is longing for Sai. So even while it seems she has it all, she is still unhappy and still craving for the very same thing. While she thought she will be the happiest is she marries V, she will suffer every day of this marriage as he refuses to give her the love. Her lesson, while she was plotting to snatch V from Sai and physically have to herself, she forgot that it is meaningless without love. And that love is something she cannot forcefully get. She could not understand this all this while, so she had to learn it the hardest way.

Karma is there to give her the dues. It hits harder when you are raised so high, and you have so much to lose. Now it will be far more painful. Even while does not have V's love she is living with the hope that one day he will. The last of hope taken away will be the full karma delivered (will it happen?.. debatable)

The song lyrics symbolic of her current state. But unfortunately none of the songs however meaningful, beautiful and melancholic could draw an ounce of sympathy for either P or V. V's longing just felt so hollow.

Even in the precap, it felt like...give him some more time and a little more coaxing and he will give in. Will they make V and P consummate to make that relationship more validation and for the sake of drama and keep P a constant?

Sorry for being such a sadist. But will there be a scene where Vinu will be crying to be with Sai and V will himself take him from P and give him to Sai? That scene was incomplete pre-leap. Because it was Shivani who took Vinu back from P.

WOW!!! 😍

I like the interpretation of the dino story :-) A real good one.

Lets wait and watch for the rest

Originally posted by: Rosyme

Where did you hear?

It can be Sairat child also..

He will meet her separately na.

Vankar loves copying OG thu thu thu Shahi uncle.
If he got Baby for Kartik from two wives n running show he will copy it.

Absolutely agree with you Moor.

Two things that we have repeatedly discussed.

V has been badly executed, butchered beyond repair. Probably the worst ML in ITV. He could easily pass as an antagonist, barring his good intentions. Or else his actions are so misaligned that the good intentions never serve upto good outcome...infact the complete opposite. Because that he solely functioning on only on level that is right. Rest he has it all wrong.

Second is the emotional fidelity bit. During his initial days of marriage to Sai, while he maintained his physical boundaries with P, but he did keep up on the emotional part of it. But unfortunately that was never highlighted.

That is the hypocrisy served here.. Just because he did not having any physical relations with P and is keeping her at a distance makes him "Mahaan" ..the eternal lover. Rest all forgotten. Is that all that counts? And does it forgive him for every other aspect....Marrying P? Betrayal or cheating on any other level is accepted and forgiven?

Also, V acknowledges Sai's physical pain. All her accidents are proof. Her mental and psychological sufferings have never really been addressed or considered as such by him. Even when she lost her child, he was not there. And he was more concerned about how she coped. He never saw beyond that. So for him to see Sai's pain...it has to be physical. Something his eyes can see and measure. What he can't see, he can never really understand or empathise on it with her. She is more or less left to deal with it on her own.

Parallel to that, V has always been mindful of P's state. All throughout, he was considerate about her mental state, her reputation and her agony. Even after knowing her intentions right from Sai's ousting track, he has never disregarded her completely. To the extent that she could easily lie and manipulate after being exposed so many times. Very conscious and considerate about her pain, state and feelings. Pregnancy the biggest example. Today he even apologised for mentioning Sai. But it didn’t affect him much that she burnt her finger.

So which one do we consider as a deeper or genuine connection?

Read all your posts. But still can’t figure out any genuine reason why would he marry her?

During her arrest he said she had fallen in front of his eyes. That he was glad she was not His wife and she didn’t enter his life! So all these statements change if sai is dead?! If vinu is adopted, this marriage has no meaning.
How is pakhi changed if she shamelessly forgot all his above statement and her own doing and still marry him? So I agree something must have transpired but in my opinion nothing could have made virat marry her!

Originally posted by: UPSC2021

My unpopular opinion- virat married pakhi for whatever reasons.So now he should respect that at least yaar.since leap is of 7 years.then pakhi virat marriage is legal and valid. I find it so weird that virat decides to marry pakhi but also decides not to move on from his past .

With this I am not relieving pakhi from her crimes.But she told them everything specially virat about her intentions and wrong doing.it was virat decision to forgive her.it is very much wrong but it was his decision.then he should take the responsibility of his decision.

But now since we know end game is Sai virat ,it means makers will again make virat the only victim in this world.As he will again leave his wife for his first wife.

Why it's always virat who will choose with whom he wants to live and play family game.why all the women are ready to destroy their life for him.And ultimately its virat who is being wronged ,it's virat who will get his happy family with his first wife and children.

Sometimes itv and it's logic amazes me.As since virat did not sleep with pakhi then only he can deserve Sai otherwise .As that's the only wrong thing he can do .All other things are ohkay under mask of charming chemistry of sairat...

The leap is of 5 years. This has been confirmed in many articles. And savi-vinu don't look old enough to be 7, at least savi doesn't.

The only reason I see is his soft corner for “Vaada”. That he would have given to Mansi. But not a justified one

I will not buy it. He can’t be “majboor” every time when it comes to Sai, while he moves mountains and even puts his relationship at stake for keeping his promises to everyone apart from Sai.

The marriage is the biggest unpardonable mistake post Sai’s exit from CN. But he has only added on to the list post that. There is a lot that he of answerable for and nothing will really justify it except Sai bearing more heartbreak for his deeds.

I would have wished for her to never be discovered or return to CN. But she is losing up on her and Savi’s future, her career, compromising and living in hiding and this needs to come to a close. She needs to break free from her past. For that she needs a closure and for that she needs to come face to face with him and end it once all. She is still dwelling in the past, with feelings still expecting. And for an end to that it she has to face that past in her present.

Savi told about a story about a mother and her 4 pillus.

Maybe Sai will be pregnant again when he spends time with her. But he can't tell at home as he's already married.

Hope the child s from Sai only. And V P marriage s fake.

Or no child from anyone. Already 2 kids r there.

Dont know what horrible things they will show.