Arylie Discussion Thread 64 🧿 - Page 37

Originally posted by: novice1

How do we so very conveniently overlook stuff that Imlie says ..but dissect every word Aryan utters 🤷‍♀️😄 …

Aryan bashing kabhi khatam nhi hoga logo ka ..😀

but anyways I find the layers of his trauma very interesting..

shuru hua with pure hatred ( khudke liye ya Imlie ke liye is a diff thing :) ) .. but the moment he came face to face with her .. another layer is peeled off .. its anger not hate now … yet another layer comes off , after witnessing her with Cheeni .. anger with defiance.. I am not gonna leave here until u aplogize … he s not really looking for an apology .. he is looking for a reaction rather.. I feel since Imlie is still hiding her emotions pretty much , Aryan is looking for a way to make her react .. he knows how he’s been barely living so far … he needs some sign that she missed him too …like kuch toh batao , how hv u lived without me for all these years .. are u over me .. or were u as hurt as I was, did u hate living apart like I did .. etc etc

Imlie still wont give him a reaction , maafi nhi maangungi bolke nikal jaegi 😄 .. firse frustate hoga ye ..

You have nailed it my friend. That's exactly what they are showing. He is not looking for an apology now. He wants to know did their separation effected Imlie the same way it effected him. Did she too thought about him as much as he thought about her.

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

Which truth of Malini?

See with or without malini involvement, the miscarriage was totally an accident and they're both wrong to blame each other for that.

It's is a trust issue in the root.

He thinks she didn't trust him to protect gudiya hence risked herself when truth is it was a reflex reaction to seeing a baby in mortal danger.

And she thinks he doesn't trust her with chiku (because he said so, what ever he meant and tried to clarify later on)

Malini is irrelevant in their story going forward. Her job is done pre-leap.

She's just kept around to balance the pace otherwise kya hi dikhayenge?

I agree with you there. Regardless of the hand malini might have played. I have said it before what if she fell from the jhoola and lost the baby rather than the stairs. Slipped and fell while walking to get water. And as they don’t know malinis hand in the situation it was an accident. What if She lost it during her rescue of him during his madhav raped you and baby ain’t mine denial phase. How would aryan feel then. He was already feeling guilty.
bottom line is it was unfair what they both said to each other. And my hope is that they reconcile before anything that malini has to say about that night comes out. Otherwise it will be the same as AKT apologizing to imkie after malinis original pardah fash and that is one parallel I don’t want to relive. I am a bit scared of it to be honest.

Originally posted by: novice1

How do we so very conveniently overlook stuff that Imlie says ..but dissect every word Aryan utters 🤷‍♀️😄 …

Aryan bashing kabhi khatam nhi hoga logo ka ..😀

but anyways I find the layers of his trauma very interesting..

shuru hua with pure hatred ( khudke liye ya Imlie ke liye is a diff thing :) ) .. but the moment he came face to face with her .. another layer is peeled off .. its anger not hate now … yet another layer comes off , after witnessing her with Cheeni .. anger with defiance.. I am not gonna leave here until u aplogize … he s not really looking for an apology .. he is looking for a reaction rather.. I feel since Imlie is still hiding her emotions pretty much , Aryan is looking for a way to make her react .. he knows how he’s been barely living so far … he needs some sign that she missed him too …like kuch toh batao , how hv u lived without me for all these years .. are u over me .. or were u as hurt as I was, did u hate living apart like I did .. etc etc

Imlie still wont give him a reaction , maafi nhi maangungi bolke nikal jaegi 😄 .. firse frustate hoga ye ..

Yaar I am not sure I agree. I see plenty of reactions from imlie. Here are some.

1. 5 saal 6 maheeney or 12 din and she completed his counting and said very clearly I am also hurt not just you in that scene

2. When he says mein tumhara boss hoon and she walks away without a fight. He looks back because he is so taken back by this dead devoid of any fight person. Not the Imlie he knew.
3. partner uttered by malini. He has to be blind not to see her reaction and her walking away. He could sense her panic but couldn’t sense her disappointment. Don’t believe that.
4. she came and gave him that accidental hug. She even said sorry. She is awkward just as much as he is and they both turn and looks at each other’s face to see how the other was reacting. It’s Clearly written on her face how much she misses him

5. When Chini calls Imlie her partner and he goes to her. He sees tears falling down her face. The look on her face says it all. You might say it might be for Chini and how would he know but then how is she supposed to know he cares as he has already flipped partners with malini. It goes both ways Yaar.
I am sure Pooja can pull a few more examples from her pitari that I have missed.
And the damn sindoor. He can’t see the damn sindoor. That’s like the biggest indication to me.

P.s. it’s not like he has also bared his soul to her either. We are not seeing him expressing any of his hurt to her either. They are both ghonchus. And I love them both plus cheeni has my heart these days.

Originally posted by: nehaahmad

Yaar I am not sure I agree. I see plenty of reactions by imlie Here is why

1. 5 saal 6 maheeney or 12 din and she completed his counting said very clearly I am also hurt not just you in that scene

2. When he says mein tumhara boss hoon and she walks away without a fight. He looks back because he is so taken back by this dead devoid of any fight person.
3. partner uttered by malini. He has to be blind not to see her reaction and her walk. He could sense her panic but couldn’t sense her disappointment. Don’t believe that.
4. she came and gave him that accidental hug. She even said sorry. She is awkward just as much as he is and they both turn and looks at each other’s face to see how the other was reacting. Clearly written on her face how much she misses him

5. When Chini calls Imlie her partner and he goes to her. He sees tears falling down her face. The look on her face says it all. You might say it might be for Chini and how would he know but then how is she supposed to know he cares as he has already flipped partners with malini. It goes both ways Yaar.
I am sure Pooja can pull a few more examples from her pitari that I have missed.
And the damn sindoor. He can’t see the damn sindoor. That’s like the biggest indication to me.

I still stand by my point of view :) .. Imlie’ s reactions have deliberately been kept very subdued.. heck in the beginning we ourselves as an audience were looking for her emotions.. Now we as viewers hv gradually ,yet still subtly began to see her side of the feelings .. Aryan still doesnt .. her reactions are either non-verbal .. or her words are meant to pierce … we want Aryan to assume what we are seeing as audience …. he won’t.. he is specifically looking for a reaction as strong as his .. that of love ,wrapped in pain 😀

Originally posted by: novice1

We can absolutely agree to disagree respectfully :)

I still stand by my point of view :) .. Imlie’ s reactions have deliberately been kept very subdued.. heck in the beginning we ourselves as an audience were looking for her emotions.. Now we as viewers hv gradually ,yet still subtly began to see her side of the feelings .. Aryan still doesnt .. her reactions are either non-verbal .. or her words are meant to pierce … we want Aryan to assume what we are seeing as audience …. he won’t.. he is specifically looking for a reaction as strong as his .. that of love ,wrapped in pain 😀

Totally agree to disagree 😘 no worries. I hope you didn’t feel I was being disrespectful. Not my intention at all. ❤️❤️❤️
I do want to ask though have we seen anything from his side as well that she is seeing as an indication of his love wrapped in pain? 😊

I haven’t seen him show her that he has missed her and couldn’t breath without her either. No expectations though otherwise how will I get my hut scene.
we know because as an audience we are privy to his internal thoughts and battles.
alright. Tabling this one unless you want to continue ✌🏻😘

Originally posted by: nehaahmad

Totally agree to disagree 😘 no worries. I hope you didn’t feel I was being disrespectful. Not my intention at all. ❤️❤️❤️
I do want to ask though have we seen anything from his side as well that she is seeing as an indication of his love wrapped in pain? 😊

I haven’t seen him show her that he has missed her and couldn’t breath without her either. No expectations though otherwise how will I get my hut scene.
we know because as an audience we are privy to his internal thoughts and battles.
alright. Tabling this one unless you want to continue ✌🏻😘

That’s the thing right .. none of them are actually behaving in a manner that they truly want to , in front of other .. dikhana kuch. chahte hain , dikha kuch aur rhe hain .. Aryan wants her to tell him that she missed him , shouldn’t hv left and hated staying apart .. Imlie probably wants him to acknowledge that he shouldn’t hv let her go and that he regrets it and misses her dearly ..

but why the hell should we make this as simple as that .. aise kaise .. ego ego khelenge thoda pehle ..

relationships are not perfect, neither are breakups , nor is the reconciliation 🤷‍♀️… its all messy .. and thats what they r showing us ..

Originally posted by: novice1

Oh hey , no worries .. this is just us sharing our point of views 😀

That’s the thing right .. none of them are actually behaving in a manner that they truly want to , in front of other .. dikhana kuch. chahte hain , dikha kuch aur rhe hain .. Aryan wants her to tell him that she missed him , shouldn’t hv left and hated staying apart .. Imlie probably wants him to acknowledge that he shouldn’t hv let her go and that he regrets it and misses her dearly ..

but why the hell should we make this as simple as that .. aise kaise .. ego ego khelenge thoda pehle ..

relationships are not perfect, neither are breakups , nor is the reconciliation 🤷‍♀️… its all messy .. and thats what they r showing us ..

Agreed, on point and well said. ❤️

I am in love with the current track right now. And I am just so damn curious how they will execute this.

I just love this discussion! I’ve always said both sides are wrong, in similar but different ways.

Do y’all think it’s ironic that he mentions her ego all the time but HIS ego and tantrum was what tore them apart in the first place?

I think the emotionality of this is the most realistic thing they show us because we can all relate to saying things in the heat of the moment and then regretting it later. Or wanting the other person to make an effort to stop you from leaving? He left her with AKT after Malini PF and he left her again after Purandas reveal.
I know he’s said that he’ll never hold her so tightly that she couldn’t break free but could it be that she wants someone to be possessive of her?
As someone who has heard all the negativity her entire life, what if her main reason of not saying sorry is because she’s almost looking for crumbs of his affection? Her birth father didn’t want her, her first husband didn’t want her, her neighbors taunted her her whole life for being illegitimate. What if she finally wants someone to fight for her, to be in her corner, to claim her as his?

Originally posted by: novice1

@bold 🫢 yeah that can totally happen .. and that’s why they hv shown them as married still .. MC is then gonna show Aryan that look Imlie has signed the divorce papers, while u r still sulking in her memory … gusse mein he is gonna sign them too fir … thats how they get divorced .. 🤷‍♀️

Forged Divorce ka drama bahut ghisa pita hai.. it's already done once in Imlie .. I hope this time even if done . End result is different and Imlie / Aryan outshine MD

Originally posted by: jpatel1289

I just love this discussion! I’ve always said both sides are wrong, in similar but different ways.

Do y’all think it’s ironic that he mentions her ego all the time but HIS ego and tantrum was what tore them apart in the first place? I never took him asking her to leave as his ego. It was the pain he underwent and the loss was so significant that he wanted to lash out at the person who in his mind had caused it. So he asked her to leave because at that point that pain and hurt and loss was too much for him to process and in his mind Imlie was responsible for it. He couldn’t forgive her for the loss of ‘his’ child the loss of his dream. I read on Twitter not sure who wrote it but ‘what is the dream of cheeku without Imlie’ his dreams were shattered and he punished her because that’s his instinct. Forgot he was punishing himself. He thinks that her not admitting to her faults and mistakes is her ego but she isn’t wrong in her own right. It was an accident. She slipped. Tbh she had done even crazier stuff while trying to rescue him two days earlier with the whole kidnapping track. She will probably say sorry to him for hurting him but not while he is trying to blame an accident on her.

I think the emotionality of this is the most realistic thing they show us because we can all relate to saying things in the heat of the moment and then regretting it later. Or wanting the other person to make an effort to stop you from leaving? He left her with AKT after Malini PF and he left her again after Purandas reveal. Oh my god yes. Aren’t we all guilty of that. It’s amazing how realistic some of these things can be. I relate to Imlie a lot and it’s all because Of how Sumbul portrays her. It just resonates with me and reminds me of situations and my own reactions to things. Makes me connect with Imlie a lot.
I know he’s said that he’ll never hold her so tightly that she couldn’t break free but could it be that she wants someone to be possessive of her?
yaar we are all independent women who wouldn’t want us to be held back but all of us would love us a possessive hot blooded man as well. Who wouldn’t. But the things that were said like you care more for this kid because he is AKTs and the back track and touching you would be painful to me. Who will stay. He essentially revoked haq se balamwa with asking her to leave. Any person with any self respect would walk out. She did too. He told her to go and until he asks her to come back she ain’t going to. And he better be crawling on his knees this time.
As someone who has heard all the negativity her entire life, what if her main reason of not saying sorry is because she’s almost looking for crumbs of his affection? Her birth father didn’t want her, her first husband didn’t want her, her neighbors taunted her her whole life for being illegitimate. What if she finally wants someone to fight for her, to be in her corner, to claim her as his?
She had all of that with Aryan. I have always said. We all need an Aryan in our lives be it our mom our friend our significant other or dad or brother playing that role. Someone who supports us unconditionally and trusts us and goes along with our craziness. That is what we so amazing about arylie. Her trust in him ‘Tum agaye’ and his support for her regardless of the crazy situations she would get herself into and drag him into. Knowing each other well enough to never doubt each others intentions while disagreeing with how things were executed was what they had with each other. she had that with him

now here is the play on everything. Aryans trauma is loss of a loved one. And imlies trauma is insecurity and never being able to belong and be accepted. They found both of them these things with each other. He got someone to love and closure for his loss and she got a family she could call her own and belonging with him. And then they took these away from both of them. Imagine their trauma now is ten folds. As they have now seen how it is to ‘toot ke chahna Kissi ko’ and having someone show utmost faith and ‘I trust my wife’ in you. So the heartbreak is tremendous and the black holes they are both in are deep.
I think this got too long. Apologize for my ramblings.

JP, awesome Yaar. Really great points.
My responses in green above.