Varied ways of marriages in ITV serials. Do you agree with those? - Page 12

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Agree with you Nisha, ITV serials are TRP making machines.

We, the viewers, are the overused tools!!

@bold - sadly yes...... we lov to see our favs couples hero heroine marriage.... n wat ever drama b we sit n watch... saying its for hero n heroine :P

ITV had made marriage a joke.

The above line sums up my thoughts ☝🏻

One more rant ...

Indian weddings have so many dignified or quasi-pleasant traditions (depending on the region) such as finding the name in mendī, ukhāṇā poems, kicking rice over the threshold, footprinting the floor or handprinting the wall, writing a name in rice, hunting for a ring, seeing faces together in a mirror, little siblings extorting gifts in exchange for leaving the couple alone ...

But the bedroom prank "traditions" make me cringe! Pāpaḍa under the mattress. The bed rigged to break. Whoopie cushions. Stink bombs. A set of hidden alarm clocks set for every hour of the night. Am I forgetting anything else that could be done to ruin a once-in-a-lifetime private moment? Why do the creatives think that this is entertaining? Does the audience really expect it?

As most of you have already said but again I'll mention it.

Forced Marriages, contract marriages and fake marriages need to stop in ITV!!!

Also the drama in the name of twists like swapping brides, kidnapping etc need a halt. Agreed they need drama in the show for TRPs but ruining all the rituals in the name of drama is not done. People also wish to see peaceful rituals/weddings at times.

ITV indeed influences people in certain ways over a period of time. What might seem to be mere entertainment at the moment could ultimately affect the mindset of the people. Also repeatedly showing the same things can strongly reinforce the thoughts in people.

Very nice topic🤗. Tones of Itv serials makes a complete circus of relationships, marriages, legal rules, police, court, etc. Probably 4 years back there was a serial where the male lead's first wife was back who was assumed dead. The male lead truly loved his first wife but he also started loving his current wife so he decided to stay with both his wife in the house and the banner was like he was loving both of them. Now that's a really horrendous thing to even watch. Then recently I watched a promo of a serial where a groom is having two brides and he is happily marrying them

Also as someone mentioned even tones of regional serials shows such dreadful and problematic things. In bengali serials there are tones of criminals in a single house who daily try to hurt/kill people or frame them just for property but never get caught. And there were some problematic marriage scenes also. In a serial the villain was forcing the fil (father in law) to marry her but she had evil intentions and some people knew about it but couldn't stop the marriage. So what the fil's small brother do is when the villain was about to give mala to fil he comes in between and takes the mala and gives her mala then takes sindoor and applies it on villain hence she is married to fil's little brother how amazing right?? There are tons of such disturbing marriage scenes and making joke of law and court scenes also in itv serials. Itv serials also promote evil, fl becoming kali maa to kill the villain and treated as bhagwan, domestic violence (still it has improved but 4-5 years ago it was too much)

The thing is we all should protest against such disturbing serials. Remember due to our protest pehredaar piya ki was closed?? In the same way if we are united then we can stop such rubbish serials. First we all should stop all those serials where child marriage is promoted

Originally posted by: NINALOGY

Nice Topic

Unfortunately ITV has made fun of marriage. From force marriages to bride or groom swap to contract marriage to majboori ki marriage to sindoor girney wali marriage, all this seem so creepy.

Directors and writers should depict marriage in a proper sacred way without ruining this Occasion just for some trps. Konsi shadi dekhi hai jo mahino chaley real life main but in ITV marriages last for months. Makers need to make serials with realistic approach.

Originally posted by: RockingSunny

... Probably 4 years back there was a serial where the male lead's first wife was back who was assumed dead. The male lead truly loved his first wife but he also started loving his current wife so he decided to stay with both his wife in the house and the banner was like he was loving both of them. Now that's a really horrendous thing to even watch. ...

If you find it unwatchable, you have the right to say so, but what you've described seems like a serious and dramatic situation. If it's a thoughtfully told story with multifaceted characters, I might watch.

What do you think the man should do? Suppose his first wife deliberately left him, she let him remarry, and now she wants him back just to make trouble. Should he reject her, when he really wants to feel loved by her and forgive her and rebuild what they lost? Suppose his second wife is innocent. Should he pretend to be happy with her while pining for his first wife, or should he end their marriage and feel guilty about ruining her life? Maybe telling the truth, that he loves them both, is the most honest approach.

Of course, the serial should acknowledge that bigamy is illegal in India (with exceptions), but after complying with the law, if both women agree to share a husband, are they hurting society or just making their marriages work by accommodating another person in their lives?

I am writing a fan fiction in which a woman discovers that her first husband is alive with memory loss, and she promptly moves out of her second husband's house to avoid any suspicion of impropriety. She was never intimate with or in love with either her first husband, whom she chose to marry based on common values and interests, or her second husband, who forced her to marry and frightens her, although she worries about him. She is physically attracted to both of them. The first husband, who is gay, is trying to be faithful to his wife, but his thoughts and his body respond to a man who is his wife's friend. Are love triangles more interesting when they're messy, or am I corrupting my readers by telling this story?

https://www.indiaforums.com/fanfiction/1763

I would speak out against a serial that promotes child marriage. However, telling a story is not the same as promoting. There's a daily drama on Colors Marathi, Rājā-Rāṇīcī Gaṃ Zoḍī (based on a Kannada serial, Maṅgalā Gaurī Maduve), in which a seventeen-year-old girl passes for eighteen and tricks a police officer into marriage, costing him his career and sending him to jail, at which point her in-laws coerce her to abort her pregnancy. Whenever I've caught an episode of this show, it has been clear that the husband isn't an ephebophile who knowingly seeks an underage partner ... the girl was forced by her good-for-nothing father ... her mother is trapped in an abusive marriage after giving birth at the age of fifteen ... and the mistake of marrying a few months too early cost this loving couple the life of their first unborn child.

Despite all of this, does the serial promote child marriage simply by depicting one seventeen-year-old girl enjoying sex with her twenty-seven-year-old husband, and encouraging us to want a happy ending for them?

I feel more concerned that when the police arrived with sirens blaring, they took most of the adults in the family to jail but left the girl in that house. Doesn't India have a procedure for these situations? Shelters, foster care, some kind of habeas corpus for the upcoming criminal trials? Wasn't the law enacted for children's welfare? Are the sirens for a dangerous emergency, or just for the police to feel important?

When a women's NGO was introduced into the story, its portrayal was negative, with the girl correctly assuming that the activist is just trying to make money, and her mother-in-law calling her a traitor for even speaking to the activist. I think that caricature did more harm to the cause of women's rights than the tragic child marriage.

The abortion pill was passed from doctor to sister-in-law to mother-in-law to pregnant girl, each one holding it in the palm of her hand or leaving it unattended (e.g. in front of deities in the household shrine). This could have been depicted much more responsibly by taking the girl to a clinic with counselling, doctor-patient confidentiality, follow-up visit etc.

This is just my opinion of one show, and I welcome disagreement.

While shutting down regressive serials with protest may be necessary, it's more important to voice support for what new content we want to see. I would like Indian daily dramas to include same-sex couples and same-sex marriages.

Originally posted by: BrhannadaArmour

If you find it unwatchable, you have the right to say so, but what you've described seems like a serious and dramatic situation. If it's a thoughtfully told story with multifaceted characters, I might watch.

What do you think the man should do? Suppose his first wife deliberately left him, she let him remarry, and now she wants him back just to make trouble. Should he reject her, when he really wants to feel loved by her and forgive her and rebuild what they lost? Suppose his second wife is innocent. Should he pretend to be happy with her while pining for his first wife, or should he end their marriage and feel guilty about ruining her life? Maybe telling the truth, that he loves them both, is the most honest approach.

Of course, the serial should acknowledge that bigamy is illegal in India (with exceptions), but after complying with the law, if both women agree to share a husband, are they hurting society or just making their marriages work by accommodating another person in their lives?

I am writing a fan fiction in which a woman discovers that her first husband is alive with memory loss, and she promptly moves out of her second husband's house to avoid any suspicion of impropriety. She was never intimate with or in love with either her first husband, whom she chose to marry based on common values and interests, or her second husband, who forced her to marry and frightens her, although she worries about him. She is physically attracted to both of them. The first husband, who is gay, is trying to be faithful to his wife, but his thoughts and his body respond to a man who is his wife's friend. Are love triangles more interesting when they're messy, or am I corrupting my readers by telling this story?

https://www.indiaforums.com/fanfiction/1763

I would speak out against a serial that promotes child marriage. However, telling a story is not the same as promoting. There's a daily drama on Colors Marathi, Rājā-Rāṇīcī Gaṃ Zoḍī (based on a Kannada serial, Maṅgalā Gaurī Maduve), in which a seventeen-year-old girl passes for eighteen and tricks a police officer into marriage, costing him his career and sending him to jail, at which point her in-laws coerce her to abort her pregnancy. Whenever I've caught an episode of this show, it has been clear that the husband isn't an ephebophile who knowingly seeks an underage partner ... the girl was forced by her good-for-nothing father ... her mother is trapped in an abusive marriage after giving birth at the age of fifteen ... and the mistake of marrying a few months too early cost this loving couple the life of their first unborn child.

Despite all of this, does the serial promote child marriage simply by depicting one seventeen-year-old girl enjoying sex with her twenty-seven-year-old husband, and encouraging us to want a happy ending for them?

I feel more concerned that when the police arrived with sirens blaring, they took most of the adults in the family to jail but left the girl in that house. Doesn't India have a procedure for these situations? Shelters, foster care, some kind of habeas corpus for the upcoming criminal trials? Wasn't the law enacted for children's welfare? Are the sirens for a dangerous emergency, or just for the police to feel important?

When a women's NGO was introduced into the story, its portrayal was negative, with the girl correctly assuming that the activist is just trying to make money, and her mother-in-law calling her a traitor for even speaking to the activist. I think that caricature did more harm to the cause of women's rights than the tragic child marriage.

The abortion pill was passed from doctor to sister-in-law to mother-in-law to pregnant girl, each one holding it in the palm of her hand or leaving it unattended (e.g. in front of deities in the household shrine). This could have been depicted much more responsibly by taking the girl to a clinic with counselling, doctor-patient confidentiality, follow-up visit etc.

This is just my opinion of one show, and I welcome disagreement.

While shutting down regressive serials with protest may be necessary, it's more important to voice support for what new content we want to see. I would like Indian daily dramas to include same-sex couples and same-sex marriages.

Now the serial which you are talking about that comes under forced marriage. Now in a forced marriage if the couple wants to stay with each other then it's their choice but they shouldn't forgive those people easily who forced them to get married but usually in itv they easily forgive their families. For me child marriage is still ok if a child is agreeing to it (however I don't want 10-12 years old to do that). But the problem is the love and romance in a child marriage without any proper development (barister babu). Now as you described some other things I agree itv degrades women's rights, law and many other things. But the problem is sometimes for such things trp increases (god knows who watches such craps). About the last line I completely agree we should voice out our opinions for which new content we want to see❤️. And showing a same sex marriage will be a fabulous concept❤️

Originally posted by: BlurredLines

I just watched a real clip from youtube. It was a wedding clip in real life.

The bride looks young's and literally begs her parents not to get her married. Her words were like please mom and please dad, I don't want to get married 🥺.

The groom literally ties the wedding necklace as she said those words forcefully and her parents subdue her to get married . As if that wasn't enough the entire family hears the bride's cry and does subdue her to get married as well.

https://youtu.be/W2Kt5K9rj6Y

P.S: My point is that this is the reality of forced marriage. ITV should stop showing such thing as Romance

I am not sure if ITV realises it or not

But whatever they show on TV has a huge impact on the audiences watching it.

Because let’s face it, India has most population who are still marred by old beliefs and ideologies

And ITV unfortunately is somehow reinstating their beliefs by showing this.

They should try to break it

But unfortunately that’s not the case

I have read some of the comments.

Even though I have not watched many Hindi shows except the retro shows I am watching right now👍🏼, IMO, TV shows need drama, and marriage ceremonies are a tool to create drama😎.

Reality and TV are separate things.