Jaate Hue Musafir ka Aakhri Salaam (The nail in the Coffin)

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Well the separation is finally here. I can't believe I let a ITV show break my heart this way. I had given up on the show when the Baccha track was introduced and was only keeping up with WU and Twitter updates in hopes that the writers would start making sense sooner or later. I knew the separation was needed and I was anticipating it as well hoping that it will be the soft reboot that this show needed to revive the Arylie charm. Never did I expect that this separation reason will be the nail in the coffin for me to finally stop caring about this show. Anyways, this os most likely my last post on this forum about the plot. From now on, will only be present in the Forum to read the wonderful FFs, SSs, OSs, TSs that our Forum members write wishing one of them could be hired in the team of Imlie writers so we can see something beautiful amd logical on screen as well.


Before my final goodbye, I had some thoughts that I wanted to share about Arylie, baby, this separation and the DRAMA. Let's tackle this one by one.


1. Imlie: Despite her immature and sometimes even caricaturish self which annoyed me at times, I still sympathised with Imlie sometimes. However, for the past couple of weeks she became unbearable as a character to even read about let alone watch on screen. I just do not understand writer's obsession with not showing amy growth in Imlie as a character despite all that she has gone through at such a tender age.

2. Aryan: I know a lot of people have understood and some have wven justified Aryan's AKT taunt to Imlie but for me, that is an absolute dealbreaker. Here's why. Had imlie not confessed to Aryan open heartedly that what she thought was love with AKT was not love because Aryan's love taught her what love is actually like, I might have justified Aryan's comment. Had aryan not gone on and on about how he is not insecure about AKT and Imlie by proclaiming 'I trust my wife', I would have maybe forgiven that taunt. But after seeing Imlie breaking down and saying 'I am tainted, I am not worthy of you' because of his mother's taunts about akt and previous marriage, he still went there and that is not Ok with me. Also, I know Aryan is also a human and is not without faults but he has always been shown as an antithesis to AKT and to see him saying Imlie cared about Gudiya more than cheeku because she still has feelings for AKT reminded me of AKT saying to Imlie that obviously you don't want to listen to me anymore because you love Aryan now.


3. Separation: I absolutely agree with everyone saying that a separation was needed to give a soft reboot to the track. However, it could have been done a lot more tastefully with even more impact. Instead of taking this baby, miscarriage and blame game track forward the way that they did. Here's what I think they could have done to make me sypathise with Imlie more.


4. How I would have done it


Knowing we need to drive the plot towards a separation by using miscarriage as a reason, I would have added and removed some things from show. The first thing I sould have done it keep the confession as it is so Arylie and audience both know that they love each other. However, I would have slightly changed the Dhruv Tara/pole star confession scene a little. Rather making it a confession, I would have shot it as Imlie observing and sleeping aryan and saying all those things to herself. That way the audience would know just how deeply she loves Aryan and that she understands what she felt for AKT was not love. However, Aryan is unaware of the depth of her love for him. It could have been like how we saw Aryan in the past with confessing to her payal, treasuring her salary. We would have connected more with Imlie.


The miscarriage could have happened exactly how it did and Aryan could have felt that maybe she still had lingering feelings for AKT and hence was attached to Gudiya more than cheeku. This way you could have empathized with Imlie more because Audience would know about her feelings that Aryan never got to hear. It would also satisfy Aryan's dialogue 'Misunderstandings can separate us but not a third person'


THE OTHER WAY


If not the above scenario, they could have just made Aryan blame Imlie saying that she didn't care about cheeku enough without bringing up AKT. Blaming a mother for losing the kid is just as horrible, they was no need to bring AKT into it at all. Both oarents blaming each other for losing the baby even though no one is actually responsible is pretty realisitc.


However, the way makers chose to do it made me sympathize with neither Imlie nor Aryan to be honest.


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Posted: 3 years ago
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I think it's turning very interesting. Definitely both are wrong, that's what makes the conflict realistic because real life fights me kisi ek ki galti nahi hoti hai.

Heart-breaker hua hai deal-breaker nahi. This is a reset, albeit a hard one.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Didnt c the epi but i heard he cleared it today regarding akt line.. he didnt ckt shamed her ..he meant that she dnt trust him with akt baby like she thinks he dislike akt so will not save his baby or be careless.. n yes both acted as idiots but pls read my comment on another post to knw my analysis pls.. i just commented in another thread . Rest u r right but im still lingering arnd here n not checking toxic fandom tags on twitter .. im more interested to c how they develop asr character .. if by chance thwy show him a mere puppy of malini thats the last day then idc abt arylie angst also as im done with makers execution already.. but as kids r being hired means RM is fr sure safe n we still hv big house.. just BT will be in danger .. arylie milan toh predicatable hai with mahaan imlie ka tadka like shadi n surpita wedding track to shoo some audince again 😂😂😂

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Hiya DM,


We constantly make jokes about the lack of logic in ITV yet fall prey to the need of it more often than not. The baby track was no different- the culmination of it, also not anything unexpected.


It would have been hard to explain Imlie's acceptance of Aryan in bed (in order to get pregnant) if she wasn't in love when him, especially after what she went through with AKT.... unless they were both drunk and it just happened in a moment of weakness.


Given that, the only way to separate them is to throw character consistency out the door in the name of trauma and get them to hurt each other enough to separate.


I've seen instances in real life where this kind of life altering incident can change a person's attitude in that moment. They can be the best human being in general, but at that time, they want the world to be hurt like they are.


Thats how I'm choosing to see Aryan. He was in pain and Imlie was the cause so he said exactly that which he knew would break her like he was broken.


Imlie too was, I felt, not regretful enough. I do however appreciate that she tried multiple times to get through to him, to stay.


And it's only because FK is an incredible performer and ST has carried the show for 400+ episodes that I'm willing to give this new track a chance. Maybe someday you will too?


❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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This was needed but the bacha part turned me off… like they are going to intro more kids then the show is going down. I want now Aryan to go woo her. I dont care how kathor he is. I want a passionate reunion , am tired of malini ckt honestly never was excited of her coming in.

I am just in confused state right now😭like i wana c it but not really cuz i always wana c arylie together… n leap is not gona b tht fun so honestly idk😉

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Death_Memories

Well the separation is finally here. I can't believe I let a ITV show break my heart this way. I had given up on the show when the Baccha track was introduced and was only keeping up with WU and Twitter updates in hopes that the writers would start making sense sooner or later. I knew the separation was needed and I was anticipating it as well hoping that it will be the soft reboot that this show needed to revive the Arylie charm. Never did I expect that this separation reason will be the nail in the coffin for me to finally stop caring about this show. Anyways, this os most likely my last post on this forum about the plot. From now on, will only be present in the Forum to read the wonderful FFs, SSs, OSs, TSs that our Forum members write wishing one of them could be hired in the team of Imlie writers so we can see something beautiful amd logical on screen as well.


Before my final goodbye, I had some thoughts that I wanted to share about Arylie, baby, this separation and the DRAMA. Let's tackle this one by one.


1. Imlie: Despite her immature and sometimes even caricaturish self which annoyed me at times, I still sympathised with Imlie sometimes. However, for the past couple of weeks she became unbearable as a character to even read about let alone watch on screen. I just do not understand writer's obsession with not showing amy growth in Imlie as a character despite all that she has gone through at such a tender age.

2. Aryan: I know a lot of people have understood and some have wven justified Aryan's AKT taunt to Imlie but for me, that is an absolute dealbreaker. Here's why. Had imlie not confessed to Aryan open heartedly that what she thought was love with AKT was not love because Aryan's love taught her what love is actually like, I might have justified Aryan's comment. Had aryan not gone on and on about how he is not insecure about AKT and Imlie by proclaiming 'I trust my wife', I would have maybe forgiven that taunt. But after seeing Imlie breaking down and saying 'I am tainted, I am not worthy of you' because of his mother's taunts about akt and previous marriage, he still went there and that is not Ok with me. Also, I know Aryan is also a human and is not without faults but he has always been shown as an antithesis to AKT and to see him saying Imlie cared about Gudiya more than cheeku because she still has feelings for AKT reminded me of AKT saying to Imlie that obviously you don't want to listen to me anymore because you love Aryan now.


3. Separation: I absolutely agree with everyone saying that a separation was needed to give a soft reboot to the track. However, it could have been done a lot more tastefully with even more impact. Instead of taking this baby, miscarriage and blame game track forward the way that they did. Here's what I think they could have done to make me sypathise with Imlie more.


4. How I would have done it


Knowing we need to drive the plot towards a separation by using miscarriage as a reason, I would have added and removed some things from show. The first thing I sould have done it keep the confession as it is so Arylie and audience both know that they love each other. However, I would have slightly changed the Dhruv Tara/pole star confession scene a little. Rather making it a confession, I would have shot it as Imlie observing and sleeping aryan and saying all those things to herself. That way the audience would know just how deeply she loves Aryan and that she understands what she felt for AKT was not love. However, Aryan is unaware of the depth of her love for him. It could have been like how we saw Aryan in the past with confessing to her payal, treasuring her salary. We would have connected more with Imlie.


The miscarriage could have happened exactly how it did and Aryan could have felt that maybe she still had lingering feelings for AKT and hence was attached to Gudiya more than cheeku. This way you could have empathized with Imlie more because Audience would know about her feelings that Aryan never got to hear. It would also satisfy Aryan's dialogue 'Misunderstandings can separate us but not a third person'


THE OTHER WAY


If not the above scenario, they could have just made Aryan blame Imlie saying that she didn't care about cheeku enough without bringing up AKT. Blaming a mother for losing the kid is just as horrible, they was no need to bring AKT into it at all. Both oarents blaming each other for losing the baby even though no one is actually responsible is pretty realisitc.


However, the way makers chose to do it made me sympathize with neither Imlie nor Aryan to be honest.


Do share what you guys think

Nice post first of all n thanxx for tagging me

Dude to start with today Arylie were behaving like typical husband n wife..n they could not stop themselves from venting out their frustration...Aryan doesn't meant for real that "bloody leave" ...I mean he was angry with her for the loss but it was not only his loss ...it was her's as well..He will be more angry that she left him just when he ask her too...

I think he never meant that but imlie will choose to leave him..He must have thought whenever they fought imlie never left him...he must have thought this time as imlie wud not go 🤔

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Hello,

So I get it many of are frustrated and pissed off after today's episode. But there is a reason why this show differ from all other ITV dramas. In almost every ITV drama seperation occurs usually due to fault of one of the lead, ML in maximum cases.

But this is only unique one where both the leads were equally at fault - one by prioritising everyone other than her partner, another by suppressing all the fears and insecurities. Their main fault lies in the fact whenever a life altering thing happens they have a habit of lashing out on each other in the worst way

True both them are each others Hero and Saviour, but difference lies in the fact the where Imlie have learnt to accept failures, Aryan didn't, he would rather build a wall around himself than fail. These qualities make them more human and realistic than any other ITV pair.

Them lashing out today is what actually do happen in real life, not all cases are like but there are many. They felt each other pain but at same time couldn't let go of their own pain.

This is an One of Kind Show for me. Maybe today you can't connect to it but someday in future maybe you will

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Posted: 3 years ago
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DM,

I can understand your frustation but what they showed was realistic.

Both Aryan and Imlie at fault. I'm dissapointed by Aru but know he will come around.

I think.written updates won't do justice.. You have to watch to understand.

He didn't mean that Imlie choose gudiya bcz she is AKT's daughter He told her Imlie didn't trust him enough about gudiya bcz of his past with AKT .

Today both said hurtful things to each other in order to break apart their partner . This is what most loving couples do and the reason why marriages fall apart.

Writers are going for a reseet. They retraumatised both and destroyed Arylie.

May be try giving post leap episodes a chance, and then decide.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Thank you for tagging me … like you I’m also on the ledge whether to watch the show or not , really it was very difficult to see the last two episodes they have become such serious couples for the past few episodes … somewhat I never expected aryan to ever let imlie leave she never had a home constantly being pushed from one place to another ( forgive me from ranting)… anyhow 5 year leap is too long if they can be without each other for 5 years then they can stay that way forever … hopefully there will be some good changes and good tracks going forward … just hold on for sometime and when you feel it worth it give it a try !!!

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Absolutely they should have avoided bringing AKT in to the picture then and now. There is no necessity for Imlie to say the love she felt for AKT is not actually love. She could have only spoken about her current emotions for Aryan by not bringing AKT in to it. Love is an emotion which can be felt multiple times. There is no shame in it. Imlie felt love for AKT. After some time she fell out of love with AKT and again felt the same emotion with Aryan. There is nothing wrong in this. But the CVs played a dirty game of completely nullify the first love of Imlie by making her such mean statements. They just want to lure the audience by making them believe Aryan and Imlie are soulmates. They just want to negate the character AKT from the show by anyways since the actor left the show in the middle. They want to run their business by getting trps. They are not true to the artform or the craft. Love is not any materialistic things which can be compared and say that was bad and this is very good. Again this is my humble personal opinion.

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