standards of villains - Page 7

Originally posted by: .SNOWWHITE.

Now we have the sadist pleasure of what audience is doing to show 🤣

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Originally posted by: Krantikari

Standards of heros should be discussed, rather than standard of villains, I believe. It’s apparent the standard of heros has dropped way more since old ‘villains’ are now being shamelessly asked to return to save the show cuz the hero has no game.🤣😛

I suppose a leech can never survive without a host.🤡

disagree with you on that villain standards are less important than heroes. in many cases, they are more important from a writing perspective. technically speaking (from a literature point of view) -- villains are not second fiddle to the hero. they along with the hero move the story along. so if the standard of villains fail, then the story stalls.

there are 7 parts of a story that occurs regardless of literature or medium. these are plot, character, setting, conflict, climax, theme, resolution.

villains contribute external conflict but their motivations need to be clear. as audience, we need to be invested in the struggle (the conflict) or we are bored.

you can still write a story without a villain but those are internal conflicts -- in essense, the villain is self. those stories deal with issues like grief, trauma, family problems etc etc.

you can write a story with a substandard half-baked hero -- they tend to show up in romantic comedies where viewers are more concerned with songs, cinematography and some chemistry. they also show up in action movies. basically these are just heroes where they just react to the situations and so they don't need to be so developed in terms of characterizations -- it is the situations that need to be interesting. also, romance movies/dramas/books are shorter and that is why they end on the note "they all lived happily after" -- there is no conflict to keep the momentum going beyond a certain point.

but any dramatic material including daily soaps require a good villain -- the plot will fall flat like a crater without support. every single piece of great literature, movie, drama has a memorable villain. that is why standard of villains matter.

when it comes to this drama, technically the hero of the drama is imlie -- it is her name on the drama and it is her story we are watching. now aryan has been included in the montage but depending on the writers, they can always turn him into anti-hero or villain to provide conflict (like it happens with many ITV dramas when the couples separate and we in essense see one long nasty marriage dissolution play out on screen).

does imlie have no game -- you could argue for or against that but at the end of day, it is the villain and conflicts that drives episode count in daily soaps. we are all tuning in to see how the hero overcomes a certain problem -- otherwise, why would we tune in? so the problem -- whether it is in the form of villains, conflict or situations -- matters.

The writers need to build the villains for them to impact the audience.

Aryan impacted the audience as a person who is supposed to create rift between Imlie and Aditya.. the intention was clear that he will be a strong opposing force

Malini's character got converted to a vamp as no tussle existed at all in Tripathi family.. Almost all were fine with Malini, Imlie and Aditya together.. In fact Malini even decided to have Imlie be with Aditya or vice versa... no tussle at all.. so some vampish need did exist as Anu remained internal force..

Presently unfortunately they tried bringing KaderKhan-Shaktikapoor type pairing with Neela and Doll.. it entertains to small extent but looks too frivilous and Jyo looks psychic and may wish to own Aryan but again looks very weak as her character has been built inadequately.. with no background... no clarity... and meaningless. In nutshell makers still wished Aryan and Imlie to be in fore front... that kills all other character's justification.

We need a real strong hero who can take on Aryan and who can be carefully built... Maybe Aryan's twin brother who got misplaced in some kumbh mela... who is as psychic as Jyo and wants to own Imlie too.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

disagree with you on that villain standards are less important than heroes. in many cases, they are more important from a writing perspective. technically speaking (from a literature point of view) -- villains are not second fiddle to the hero. they along with the hero move the story along. so if the standard of villains fail, then the story stalls.

there are 7 parts of a story that occurs regardless of literature or medium. these are plot, character, setting, conflict, climax, theme, resolution.

villains contribute external conflict but their motivations need to be clear. as audience, we need to be invested in the struggle (the conflict) or we are bored.

you can still write a story without a villain but those are internal conflicts -- in essense, the villain is self. those stories deal with issues like grief, trauma, family problems etc etc.

you can write a story with a substandard half-baked hero -- they tend to show up in romantic comedies where viewers are more concerned with songs, cinematography and some chemistry. they also show up in action movies. basically these are just heroes where they just react to the situations and so they don't need to be so developed in terms of characterizations -- it is the situations that need to be interesting. also, romance movies/dramas/books are shorter and that is why they end on the note "they all lived happily after" -- there is no conflict to keep the momentum going beyond a certain point.

but any dramatic material including daily soaps require a good villain -- the plot will fall flat like a crater without support. every single piece of great literature, movie, drama has a memorable villain. that is why standard of villains matter.

when it comes to this drama, technically the hero of the drama is imlie -- it is her name on the drama and it is her story we are watching. now aryan has been included in the montage but depending on the writers, they can always turn him into anti-hero or villain to provide conflict (like it happens with many ITV dramas when the couples separate and we in essense see one long nasty marriage dissolution play out on screen).

does imlie have no game -- you could argue for or against that but at the end of day, it is the villain and conflicts that drives episode count in daily soaps. we are all tuning in to see how the hero overcomes a certain problem -- otherwise, why would we tune in? so the problem -- whether it is in the form of villains, conflict or situations -- matters.

No no mango ji, let me tell you what brought the trps ✨

The never ending conflict 💁

Woah !

Alexa play : gudd dekha makkhi jaisa fix hogayaaaa🦟🦟🦟

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Originally posted by: mango.falooda

disagree with you on that villain standards are less important than heroes. in many cases, they are more important from a writing perspective. technically speaking (from a literature point of view) -- villains are not second fiddle to the hero. they along with the hero move the story along. so if the standard of villains fail, then the story stalls.

there are 7 parts of a story that occurs regardless of literature or medium. these are plot, character, setting, conflict, climax, theme, resolution.

villains contribute external conflict but their

Pichle paanch page padhkar aisa aap ko kyun laga that anyone on this thread is interested in a rational, logical or artistic discussion??

Originally posted by: SundariP

No no mango ji, let me tell you what brought the trps ✨

The never ending conflict 💁

Sorry, I just saw your signature and forgot to comment on the difference between the histrionics of the two scenes.

Imlie humari patni hai toh phir bhi 2.2 se bhi upar tha😂😂😂😂 I trust my wife toh 1.9 tak pahuch gayi😛😛 khair shaadi confession SR Baby sab phail huyi gava. Ab joh log jaa chuke hai unko bulaa rahi hai taaki show ko bacha sake😄😄😄😄 isse bada kya chahiye🤣🤣

Originally posted by: bips

Pichle paanch page padhkar aisa aap ko kyun laga that anyone on this thread is interested in a rational, logical or artistic discussion??

Ye LoGiCal disCUSSion nai hai toh aur kya hai?! 🤣

*How our hero is expressionless🤷‍♀️*

*How the hero has no bedside manners🤷‍♀️*

*Does he have a tail or not? 🤷‍♀️If yes, how long it is? 🤷‍♀️*

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Sorry, I just saw your signature and forgot to comment on the difference between the histrionics of the two scenes.

My siggie served it's purpose then.

It's to give comfort after the atrocities gifs that I've to use sometimes 💁