Why the plot and storyline isn't right?

Okay this is my opinion but let me explain why I feel like it. We are trying to accept the plot with the fact that it's the truth of many places in India and others. This and that and at last Urbanization giving us privilege.

Ab apun ka dimaag Kai aur doura... Every thing they are showing is wrong because that's not the way of a Billionaire lifestyle. They are showing a Billionaire, and Ambani khandaan doesn't have such strange superstitious in between them. Why? Access to knowledge with money they try to imply westernised nature most.

When do these topic would have been perfect?

Plots of serials of the past like Naa Aana iss des laado, Agle janam mohe bitiya hi kijo even balika vadhu also Pratigya. The absolute set up is necessary. The set up of Rathore's are in between the peak of Urbanization. Hence what they are trying to show is kind of invalid. Else what's the difference between Imlie's villagers who lives far from development and Rathores living in between the best atmosphere. Narmada would have said for treatment or adoption or surrogacy like every other city lady. We should not forget the character Narmada seems like to be set up in her 50s making her born at 70s. That era was progressive in cities compared to mil born in 60s era in 2011.

Also one could approach the baby problem like many rich men prepare their girl children to get married to heir of other business men so that they can expand their business and that's not the plot here at all.

Also yes such baby pressure is there in progressive families too but the dialogues aren't so brass. They don't talk the way Bm and Narmada talks. I feel like Rathores are a rich family from a village with full of superstitions and only the male kid from the family is progressive and his sibling trying to stay neutral.

Was this ever the plot lol? Characterization of characters are important and also making a net of the character's background is important. If anyone understands or not but you guys will agree me with one thing. They didn't lay the base of any of the characters from Rathore's sides.

BD,bm just don't have any family and Jyoti is on a free ride for free food. Her husband not putting her in jail also Rathore's have no background history. Are they from village or a native of the main city. If you are from city your thoughts are ought to reflect in your actions that's how you get accepted as who you are. Same goes for villages but we have progressive villagers too nowadays.

Hence for me the plot is off and I can say from my side that they have messed up a lot because lifestyles mostly depends on Finance and Thought Process of a human being. None of the Rathores except Aryan reflects the lifestyle of India's one percent population the Billionaires.

At least family business with crores based on a small city of Rajasthan had been given to me as his background I would have gladly accepted Aryan's family's thought process. You can't copy paste village problems in cities especially Delhi where girls says their most comfortable clothing is shorts. More to it when you live between progressive atmosphere you think twice or thrice when you are asked to do something related to prejudices or something regressive.

Imlie married for one year became useless at 20 as she can't be a mother. Some one please send them back to their real Haveli that they left in some village in Rajasthan and then show this plot. The most progressive male heir of the house will support his wife from city I mean another village called Pagdandiya.

Originally posted by: MiuniS

Okay this is my opinion but let me explain why I feel like it. We are trying to accept the plot with the fact that it's the truth of many places in India and others. This and that and at last Urbanization giving us privilege.

Ab apun ka dimaag Kai aur doura... Every thing they are showing is wrong because that's not the way of a Billionaire lifestyle. They are showing a Billionaire, and Ambani khandaan doesn't have such strange superstitious in between them. Why? Access to knowledge with money they try to imply westernised nature most.

When do these topic would have been perfect?

Plots of serials of the past like Naa Aana iss des laado, Agle janam mohe bitiya hi kijo even balika vadhu also Pratigya. The absolute set up is necessary. The set up of Rathore's are in between the peak of Urbanization. Hence what they are trying to show is kind of invalid. Else what's the difference between Imlie's villagers who lives far from development and Rathores living in between the best atmosphere. Narmada would have said for treatment or adoption or surrogacy like every other city lady. We should not forget the character Narmada seems like to be set up in her 50s making her born at 70s. That era was progressive in cities compared to mil born in 60s era in 2011.

Also one could approach the baby problem like many rich men prepare their girl children to get married to heir of other business men so that they can expand their business and that's not the plot here at all.

Also yes such baby pressure is there in progressive families too but the dialogues aren't so brass. They don't talk the way Bm and Narmada talks. I feel like Rathores are a rich family from a village with full of superstitions and only the male kid from the family is progressive and his sibling trying to stay neutral.

Was this ever the plot lol? Characterization of characters are important and also making a net of the character's background is important. If anyone understands or not but you guys will agree me with one thing. They didn't lay the base of any of the characters from Rathore's sides.

BD,bm just don't have any family and Jyoti is on a free ride for free food. Her husband not putting her in jail also Rathore's have no background history. Are they from village or a native of the main city. If you are from city your thoughts are ought to reflect in your actions that's how you get accepted as who you are. Same goes for villages but we have progressive villagers too nowadays.

Hence for me the plot is off and I can say from my side that they have messed up a lot because lifestyles mostly depends on Finance and Thought Process of a human being. None of the Rathores except Aryan reflects the lifestyle of India's one percent population the Billionaires.

At least family business with crores based on a small city of Rajasthan had been given to me as his background I would have gladly accepted Aryan's family's thought process. You can't copy paste village problems in cities especially Delhi where girls says their most comfortable clothing is shorts. More to it when you live between progressive atmosphere you think twice or thrice when you are asked to do something related to prejudices or something regressive.

Imlie married for one year became useless at 20 as she can't be a mother. Some one please send them back to their real Haveli that they left in some village in Rajasthan and then show this plot. The most progressive male heir of the house will support his wife from city I mean another village called Pagdandiya.

Haha everything you said is right on target.

I like your example of ambanis😆......my imagination is trying to replace rathores with them and I cannot stop grinning😉

Rathores are wealthy family and based in Delhi. Though i know wealth cannot buy class and fwd thinking but kuch toh mindset change hoga na, itna regressive soch nahi hosakta right?

We agree with everything you say, illogic and random characters and no consistency in story thats why we are going crazy trying to understand ho kya raha hain but finally realized we will go " cuckoo in laala land" if we try to find logic so either we enjoy the ride or get off the ride.

But our IF is entertaining, dissecting episodes or theorizing what will come next or planning together is more appealing. Just like partners in crime😉

Atif upcoming web series is combination of murder and romance......kaash he adds romance with mystery even in Imlie show instead of SBS nautanki right??

Everyone agrees that writing is very shoddy rn, that's no point to prove here.

And also agree with you that urbanisation, education and wealth takes us towards modernization.

But that does not mean humans don't spiral back to old beliefs.

It was clearly shown that BM targetted Narmada's insecurities to push her agenda of breaking apart arylie, marrying BD to aryan.

Narmada in turn exploited imlie's triggers to get her in line of her progressive thinking as and educated and modern journalist (to expose the fraud baba)

I already gave you example of how my educated aunt committed female foeticide under pressure of in-laws, let me further tell you that the family is extremely rich too, though they're not urbanized.

But also, change in thought process is an evolutionary process. It takes generations of educated people in the family to inculcate the change brought by education regards to social evils.

We still have concept of joint family in south Asian culture where the elders of family hold power, where our modern thoughts are challenged daily by them, generation gap is real, and some situations you've to just give in for the love of family. I'm daily tagged as a rebel in my own family.

I know that not everyone can relate to this track, but a lot of people can. Same way, a large part of audience can't relate to romantic tracks as well, because real life me koi aisa romance nahi hota hai. Right or wrong shouldn't be a debate here.

I have a different take , i come from upper middle class comfortable background , my grand dad , my aunts .. everyone is highly educated ( in the sense , top universities )

Still they frown upon girl child.

So the thinking is deeply ingrained in our societies , we might have aunties posting in insta / fb and making YT vida , the same aunty seeing some other girl with a boy in insta would spread shit about them.

Surrogacy / Adoption isnt yet widely accepted in our society , or we will have some effect in our population numbers !

The problem is the writing is extremely bad , there is no justification right now. Same track could have been tackled with bit of a logic !!
normal paced episodes , with some build up - with family moments - with talk of babies - future and then brining it up would have made way more sense.

I see justifications that arylie relationship is healthy ! Thats not enough to carry a show , one of the most active HT is imlie . Is very slow right now. If the plot is off , no would have patience to sit through to get arylie moments.

This isnt imlie 1.0 , where lockdown - so no other stuff to do .. we sat throught it !

Originally posted by: SundariP

Everyone agrees that writing is very shoddy rn, that's no point point to prove here.

And also agree with you that urbanisation, education and wealth takes us towards modernization.

But that does not mean humans don't spiral back to old beliefs.

It was clearly shown that BM targetted Narmada's insecurities to push her agenda of breaking apart arylie, marrying BD to aryan.

Narmada in turn exploited imlie's triggers to get her in line of her progressive thinking as and educated and modern journalist (to expose the fraud baba)

I already gave you example of how my educated aunt committed female foeticide under pressure of in-laws, let me further tell you that the family is extremely rich too, though they're not urbanized.

But also, change in thought process is an evolutionary process. It takes generations of educated people in the family to inculcate the change brought by education regards to social evils.

We still have concept of joint family in south Asian culture where the elders of family hold power, where our modern thoughts are challenged daily by them, generation gap is real, and some situations you've to just give in for the love of family. I'm daily tagged as a rebel in my own family.

I know that not everyone can relate to this track, but a lot of people can. Same way, a large part of audience can't relate to romantic tracks as well, because real life me koi aisa romance nahi hota hai. Right or wrong shouldn't be a debate here.

Lol that's what I said, they could show them rich as Crorepatis having a background like that but Billionaire, the people who live in between such amount of money is constantly connected to the development of society with social works. They just belong to the section which is the smallest. Rich can be you and me but lifestyle of a Billionaire is a way lot lot different than even from millionaires.

They definitely gives me the vibes of a crorepati family filled with Superstitions rather than a Billionaire family living in the pinacle of growth.And I am not in for Right or Wrong, my talk is they didn't make the characters that way. The base of the Rathores are missing and believe me if they want they can still input it slowly 10s of businesses what and where are those?They need to bring clarity

The audience will relate but the Audience except the Billionaires category. But none is brought with their beautiful messy writing I mean the Clarity.

Remember Akshara's and Swaragini's family were accepted when they are shown with prejudices though they were rich coz even in rich there are divisions between them and they always entertained their prejudices

Originally posted by: Toreadff26

I have a different take , i come from upper middle class comfortable background , my grand dad , my aunts .. everyone is highly educated ( in the sense , top universities )

Still they frown upon girl child.

So the thinking is deeply ingrained in our societies , we might have aunties posting in insta / fb and making YT vida , the same aunty seeing some other girl with a boy in insta would spread shit about them.

Surrogacy / Adoption isnt yet widely accepted in our society , or we will have some effect in our population numbers !

The problem is the writing is extremely bad , there is no justification right now. Same track could have been tackled with bit of a logic !!
normal paced episodes , with some build up - with family moments - with talk of babies - future and then brining it up would have made way more sense.

I see justifications that arylie relationship is healthy ! Thats not enough to carry a show , one of the most active HT is imlie . Is very slow right now. If the plot is off , no would have patience to sit through to get arylie moments.

This isnt imlie 1.0 , where lockdown - so no other stuff to do .. we sat throught it !

The girl child frowning might depend on 2 things, related to Dahej or Paraya Dhan which would add nothing to Family as she will go to her husband's house and this thought is geographical and second is time frame. When those people were born and the thinking process inside their heads and the surrounding.

I won't go there much as surrogacy line was only one but here I was talking about lifestyle of a Billionaire family. Don't get me wrong but there's a huge difference of lifestyle between millionaires and billionaires (thanks to the economics subject attached to our degree) there we studied the differences of lifestyle and influence of influential people. The rich might be prejudiced too like I said giving birth to girls to expand businesses but not the way they had shown here.

At the end this was a bash towards the writing and the audience who relate to this track are definitely not Billionaires. Maybe some crorepati family who got rich with family businesses of jewellery stores or even chains of stores.

Except Aryan none in Rathore gives Billionaire vibes

Originally posted by: anabh

Haha everything you said is right on target.

I like your example of ambanis😆......my imagination is trying to replace rathores with them and I cannot stop grinning😉

Rathores are wealthy family and based in Delhi. Though i know wealth cannot buy class and fwd thinking but kuch toh mindset change hoga na, itna regressive soch nahi hosakta right?

We agree with everything you say, illogic and random characters and no consistency in story thats why we are going crazy trying to understand ho kya raha hain but finally realized we will go " cuckoo in laala land" if we try to find logic so either we enjoy the ride or get off the ride.

But our IF is entertaining, dissecting episodes or theorizing what will come next or planning together is more appealing. Just like partners in crime😉

Atif upcoming web series is combination of murder and romance......kaash he adds romance with mystery even in Imlie show instead of SBS nautanki right??

Were you able to switch Rathore in Ambani's place? It's hard tbh.wahi problem hai yaha... The thing that sitting in between urbanization, in a neutral family, with no less cash,have access to information and so much more. The setting is just off while writing.

The true story is that police and romance chal raha hai, for that they had make Imlie project busy with something superstitions in a standard of living where it is most scarce to see. Lol I don't post anything about the plot but the more brass Narmada's dialogues are getting I am wondering is it even a lifestyle of the character background they set up.

urbanization, modernization, wealth and education does not necessarily translate into giving up superstitions or funny thoughts. it all depends on people. here, it really comes down to bad writing. I have no problem with narmada turning grey or outright villian. however, the process should have been gradual which is why many fans had a whiplash.

so narmada 1.0 -- takes an unknown girl into her house. does not look at -- status, education, colour complexion, caste, community, rural background, money -- and simply thinks imlie would make a great daughter-in-law. even after she finds out imlie was previously married before, she didn't bat an eye. she didn't have a problem with the ex-in-laws involved in the wedding. she didn't have a problem with her daughter marrying a cook.

now we have narmada 2.0 who is listening to aunty blue and keeps reacting. now there was no smooth road on how narmada 1.0 became narmada 2.0. why is she listening to aunty blue so much? how does her past affect her thoughts? what is she afraid of? because the writers haven't developed how these changes occured, it seems a bit absurd.

Since you mentioned ambanis, you remember that ugly one billion (or was it 2 billion) dollar worth ambanis home called antilla??

Ya... They didn't move into that house for years because their astrologer told them it was bad vastu or something.... They just used it for parties... Finally they moved in after whatever nuskha their astrologer did.

Besides that ya i agree with you. Everything is looking so low class including BM ke taane about mixie juicer grinder .. They could have had narmada call like a thousand pandit to do pooja (aka aryan style)... They can actually speak to experts and doctors before all this baba nonsense.... And why are the billionaires going to that stupid baba ki jhopdi... Have him come to the house..

No matter how we try to analyse, defend or criticise the show, the only thing we know for a fact is that the makers have lost all interest in the show... It running with the help of A+ leads and C grade production values...

This track be good or bad, has brought out immense insensitivity in people.

I wouldn't have commented but what does misogyny has to do with urbanisation?

You see how even the NCT has a skewered child sex ratio as well? How do you think child sex-ratio become skewered? *wishpers* female foeticide and low neonatal survival rates.

One could look at wikipedia's references to look at more statistical data.

The Kapoor family famously didn't let their women work professionally despite being super rich and educated. Babita and Neetu Singh gave up their careers despite having huge bank balances themselves.

If people genuinely think urbanisation or money is some sort of preventive of systemic sexism and superstition, then I am glad this show is showing this.

This comment is not a personal reference to your post but what I have been seeing on sm these last few days.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_foeticide_in_India