Pyar paramatma tak pahunchne ki pehli seedi tho hai

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Pyar paramatma tak pahunchne ki pehli seedi tho hai. Har jeevan ka sabse bada sach hai.

What a deep thought Imlie has about love. No wonder why this girl has been so selfless in all her actions, even to those who wronged her. And what makes her more beautiful is that, even when when she had lost faith in love, she never wished ill for anyone. In one of my earlier posts, I had mentioned that more than being in love with Aditya, it is Imlie's deep-rooted belief that Aditya was Sita Mayya's choice that why she tried to stick on to that relation, inspite of several humiliations. If it were not for this devotion she had, an otherwise sensible girl like Imlie would never believe that her relationship with Aditya was much stronger than the 7yr relation between Aditya and Malini. And it is the same reason, why she kept running back to him even on the day he was marrying Malini, till he insulted her with words Iike, 'Tumara pyar hava ki tarah hai; na iski koi aatma hai, na iski koi shareer hai, na isme koi jaan hai, na isme koi pehchaan hai'. Thanks to the actor who chose to leave, because of which, we got to see a progressive story and two brilliant actors who are living the characters of Aryan and Imlie to the T. Varna, who knows what regressive storyline would have been served to the audience.

Now, coming back to the topic title, any person who has a spiritual view of love is difficult for us humans to understand their thought process. They're so selfless that it is difficult to find words like revenge, punishment, ego etc. in their dictionary. The reason why Imlie couldn't understand Aryan's pain that had the shade of revenge behind it. The reason why, even after being brought up as Satyakam's beti, she never felt revengeful either about Aditya or Malini. The reason why she decided to be Aryan's wife, when she came to know BM's motives. The reason why she hasn't yet exposed the real motive of BM, as she knows how important is BM to Narmada. The reason why she can't be angry with Narmada even after being repeatedly insulted by her. The reason why she never cared for her life when it comes to saving the lives of those dear to her. And above all, the reason why she's able to smile and look happy the next moment, even after passing through a painful phase, just before that. Because, to them love is something which is pure and should not be maligned with negative emotions. Uski bus chale tho Imlie will not hesitate to take Aryan's help to treat psycho Jyo back to normal, once Jyo's motives come out. To normal humans like us, such acts are too much to accept and we will not leave a chance to mock them as people without self-respect and mahan log. But, that is how such people are and Imlie belongs to that group. And the truth is that such people are tested the most. 😥

So, from today onwards, I will be viewing Imlie's words and actions from this perspective. Though it might be frustrating at times, what if it probably helps me too to understand more about loving divinely. Afterall, the spiritual guide I rely on, to converse with the Creator of this universe, says the same thing - 'God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him'.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Wow

What a great perspective 🤗

Truly love can be transformational yet grounds you

What a lovely piece of writing dear❤️

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Posted: 3 years ago
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At times i get irritated at her behavior of making everyone to take her granted😏.. But your justifications here makes sense👍🏼...bit difficult to accept such will try from her pov as u mentioned... Thanks for tag😊

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shravani95

At times i get irritated at her behavior of making everyone to take her granted😏.. But your justifications here makes sense👍🏼...bit difficult to accept such will try from her pov as u mentioned... Thanks for tag😊

yea same; I can't relate to such a love perspective to be honest. 🤷

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Posted: 3 years ago
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yea same; I can't relate to such a love perspective to be honest. 🤷

It's just fictional right.. In real life it's rare

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shravani95

It's just fictional right.. In real life it's rare

okay before I answer this -- let me say that I am religious. so this isn't an anti-religion view in any way. there are people who misquote or manipulate religious feelings to control people. unfortunately, there are women who do it to themselves.

some women might be unwilling to get a divorce because they believe that their marriage was ordained by heaven's will. so they stay even if they are facing physical violence or emotional abuse. then there are misconceptions about forgiveness. so people think that forgiveness = reconciliation which is incorrect. forgiveness simply means letting go of the anger and the pain and moving from the past to the present. it doesn't mean that you allow someone to walk all over you and neither does it mean you turn a blind eye to injustice. reconciliation may or may not happen even if there is forgiveness -- sometimes a broken jug cannot be fixed. basically we reap what we sow and people do not get a free ride just because they are forgiven. there are consequences to actions.

however, people use words like forgiveness or other religious concepts in the wrong way to imprison people. sometimes, people like imlie do it to themselves. so I would always caution that we need to have clear understanding of religious principles so that we are guided well. faith and reason can and do co-exist. hope that makes sense.

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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@Enlightened21

Apologies if I get your name wrong.

Hi Grace,

You are so right. I am so glad you made this post. There are people like imilie who seems mahanta but it's the way they are that they are very true to their conscience. They can't wrong people who wronged them that is knowing that the person has hurt them. It just like I can't take responsibility for others action but mine only . I don't really know how that is but that's how they grow up to be. It is very difficult for them to live in today's world. It is very difficult to understand them but that's how they are.

I absolutely understand why she wouldn't choose to give back to Narmada but BM. There nothing more harder than asking your life partner to choose you against the parents or vsv. It's two different relationship. Especially when you are secured in that relationship and your spouse is with you, you don't really need to. This is strictly in a normal relationship, not in an abusive relationship/extreme situation.

From how I see Narmada, first of all she is made to be like this to progress the story, secondly I think it's a lot to do with her insecurity triggered by BM. That doesn't mean she's right.

From Imilie"s point of view I totally understand how she sees it. She does gives back to BM who is kind of external member of the family. Where Narmada is someone very important part of Aryan"s and somewhere she has formed a close relationship too. She can't be at peace while there's tension between the son and the mother. She knows how important they are to each other and how both are to her. She chooses to be quite and tries to keep peace to her knowledge so both are in peace. She couldn't even see that on Aparna"s case. This is her family. I don't really think Imilie can be happy seeing the son and mother in tension. That's who she's. Wish Narmada also can see how her behaviour is effecting the peace of her son. I so wish Narmada can see the pain she's inflicting upon Aryan indirectly. I see imilie as matured in this case as she is able to think beyond her. She sees from Narmada's POV as well as Aryan's. She knows the cause. Also imilie is carrying a lot of insecurity through her childhood. She's repeatedly has been told she's not good enough.




I might be an odd one here, we aren't all same so sometimes it's peaceful to accept people for who they are as long as it doesn't effect the life with your spouse. As long as the couple have the understanding and laugh it out. Not everything has to be fought off.

There are people in real ife as long as they can't influence the partner, it's easier to accept them as they are . They won't change and especially if they are relatives, they won't disappear either. Accept, have a good laugh at them and carry on. That is strength too.


I am not a good writer as you are. Hope it makes sense.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Beautiful thoughts, atleast now we can excuse Imlie when she is being mahaan or selfless...

Love your posts

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Grace, thank you for the tag❤️

This piece of writing proves to me again how generous and an optimistic person you are, as I keep repeating. 🤗I think through our previous conversations, you proved this again and again to me🤗 It is truly, truly refreshing to meet people like you, Grace🤗You are somebody who is willing to see good in every situation👍🏼

However, I have difficult time reconciling to this concept. While I agree, in general principle, the thought of love as transcending towards divinity. The practicality of this principle is difficult for me to fathom. For me, it is more about service, humanity, sensitivity and action that transcend towards divinity.

I never felt that Imlie was selfless. The phase she had with Aditya, I always have and still do chalk it up to her teenage romantic notion and her upbringing of not having a father. As a teenager, what does it do to your psyche, when an older guy is put in the place of a husband, and this older guy finds you interesting and starts persuading you in deference to his more matched wife? She gave that relationship as Sita Maiyaa's gift, but somehow couldn't see that Malini's relationship of 7 years and her marriage to patrakaar with mutual consent is also Sita Maiyaa's gift. Why would Sita Maiyaa choose to gift Imlie, but is not to Malini? Not to be a broken record, she was selfish when she wanted Malini to leave her everything and life and dreams she had for 7 years, get up and go away💔

In the end, she wanted to end Malini and her mom. The reason? Some cockamamie story that Malini is splitting T family and Aditya. Far from reality.

While she dealt with T family, it came across as an obsession, kind of high on her infallibility and hero complex. She was never this generous to her own mother whether in spirit or in means.

Aryan ke saath, toh pucho mat🤢

Again, the kind of person I am, I do not believe in forgiving without the other person ever acknowledging the mistake. I feel like a fool if I am the one mad, I am the one forgiving and moving on and then the other person feels hunky dory, has no clue how they have wronged me, and continue to behave in the same way. Forgiving only gives me peace of mind, but doesn't do anything else. I generally need more than that, vindication too. I will not waste my energies on pursuing grudges, wishing for bad things to happen, no I won't do that. But, if there is no acknowledgement and realization, there is not going to be any forgiving too💔

Haan, yeh toh main maanti hoon, ki having a clear conscience is top most priority. For not so close ones, I don't give much thought if wronged and properly acknowledged. Tata Bye-bye for me. However, with people who matter to me, obviously that is not the case. I have recently understood( 5-6 yrs )that grudges or being angry is not working for me. So, I do what I need to, what gives me a clear conscience without worrying much about what they are doing to me. My profession had taught me this and one day I had an epiphany " why am I not applying the same generosity of spirit to my near and dear"?

I however, loved how she defined love unaltered, unchanged and secure. Again, does this apply to all relationships? Like for instance, a spouse such as Adi guy wrongs Malini, should her love/concern or whatever remain unchanged? I feel this kind of love applies to a mother and child, not even vice versa in most situations.

I don't know, Grace, I am just rambling on.

But, again, my friend, the world needs more people like you who are optimistic and positive, not the pessimistic Mili's😲

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Posted: 3 years ago
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mili -- if you think you are negative, you would laugh when you read my post. 😂 you know how people give gyan about love the way jyothi does about the universe, well I am smirking inside and just eye roll. here is my take -- love can be beautiful and lovely but it can also be dark and super destructive.

I watch a lot of true crime documentaries as well as drama. I remember the first time I heard this detective on this documentary tell that most crimes are committed by someone the person has loved / knew very well, my mouth dropped open in shock. it is why police always start their investigation with the spouse first, then the next of kin, then good friends and so on. after all those people are ruled out, then they look at outsiders. in about 70-75% of the murder cases, it is not a stranger at all. this is true all over the world -- that is human nature for you!

and what is even more baffling? the amount of crimes that are done in the name of love -- stalking, threats, violence, acid throws. you name it - in every one of those crimes, the aggressor will say they loved their victim and you have to go "WHAT????" 😱😮🤯😲

after a lot of thought, I have come to feel that maybe they do love but it is a negative love.😧 as human beings, we are sinful creatures which means that even a positive emotion such as love can get twisted to the point where people do horrendous things that boggle us.

so a closer example from this drama -- people are annoyed at narmada but here is a thing, it is a mother's love that is making narmada lash out at imlie. she understands that her son is head over heels over a girl who may not feel the same way about him. worse, he keeps ending up in danger because of this girl repeatedly. so based on that, she is getting more and more frustrated with imlie who she sees as the source of impending doom. now what is behind that emotion -- love!


have more thoughts about forgiveness but will come back and post that later. 😊

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago

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