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Posted: 3 years ago
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In fact we need more such films to bring out other Hindu genocides, like the ones caused by the Nizam. Or the Bangladesh Hindu genocide.

If we dig into history more and more horrors come up.


I wish Hindus atleast now open their eyes and learn the truth.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMinion

Gandhi was killed by a Maharashtrian Brahmin, my mom is one… she wasn’t born then, my maama and maasi were toddlers. My naanaji’s house was burnt down by a mob, his non brahmin friends saved the family… I’ve heard these first hand experiences too…

I never knew about all that chitpavan brahmins had to endure after Gandhi's death until i read a twitter thread about this from one of the victims' family members.. a lot of these atrocities were brushed under carpet for a false sense of "secularism" or whatever it was

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu023

I never knew about all that chitpavan brahmins had to endure after Gandhi's death until i read a twitter thread about this from one of the victims' family members.. a lot of these atrocities were brushed under carpet for a false sense of "secularism" or whatever it was

I know…

Houses were looted, burnt, lands and houses were taken away… my nanaaji could never go back as the villagers threatened to kill him if he went back… only consolation was they were not thrown out of Maharashtra, he could settle in Mumbai…

Politics of religion and caste has existed forever in our country, unfortunately…

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: TheMinion

I know…

Houses were looted, burnt, lands and houses were taken away… my nanaaji could never go back as the villagers threatened to kill him if he went back… only consolation was they were not thrown out of Maharashtra, he could settle in Mumbai…

Politics of religion and caste has existed forever in our country, unfortunately…

sir syed ahmed khan's two nation theory was taught to us in primary school.can you believe?

We always knew the basis of partition itself was religion but somehow turned a blind eye to it because we were taught India chose to be secular.

If indeed our country is secular, why is there a hindu marriage act, aimplb, christian marriage act etc? In an ideal secular and liberal state, personal law boards based on religion shouldn't exist.

People just don't get it or do not want to face the truth

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: anu023

Had courts not refused to see the pain of KPs and not rejected pleas, movie itself wouldn't have been made.

Suppression of truth for more than 30 decades is a crime in itself and there is no right or wrong time for release of a movie trying to simply show what actually happened with KPs


There was no dark conspiracy to suppress the truth as you seem to think. 😳Everyone was aware of the atrocities committed then and during the riots after Indira Gandhi's death.The same with the Serbian-Bosnian atrocities too. It was all discussed in the media. Unless you were living under the rock you couldn't help hearing about it.Now caring about the plight of the victims is another matter altogether. Most people are too busy or are unable to care much about what goes on outside their immediate sphere of influence.And the KPs were not a significant vote bank for any political party to take up their cause then. If politicians are taking up their cause now, it's not because their conscience has suddenly woken up.

As for the generations who came later, it' our job to read up on our history from different sources and form your own opinion. Most text books don't cover recent history. The wounds are still fresh. Somehow reading about Jallianwala Bagh or the Black Hole of Calcutta is tolerable because of the time passed. And the Mughals like it or not are as much Indian as you or me, and are part and parcel of the history of India.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Never..

Any thing that doesn't sit very well with the so called "liberals" or doesn't fan the usual narrative has no right time to see the light of the day..

I am yet to watch the movie, but my parents who have watched it told me that although the movie is good, it is focused on one family thus failing big time to bring out the mass plight on screen.

Despite such tame depiction, the maker has to be given Y Security (although I absolutely dislike Agnihotri. His ideology changes as per the reigning disposition, so no integrity and credibility at all) . Imagine what would be the case had he gone full-fledged with the depiction..

What is expected but still astounding is the silence of Bollywood, especially the likes of deshbhakt Kumar...

The khauff is real..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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There's no such thing as the right time to release. Polls are merely an excuse to discredit the movie as a mere propaganda. Had the film released earlier, it would have received the credit of making the BJP win the polls in four states. Right now it's being accused of preparing pitch for 2024. So, such theories will always float regardless of the release date.

The actual reason behind the desperate vitriol is the surfacing of inconvenient truths which go against the established narrative.

Edited by Wistfulness - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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The biggest question is has this movie benefited the society in anyway? Yes, now alot more people know about the plight of Kashmiri Pandits which they didn't know before. But does that ease their pain or changes what they went through?

How can a common man help the Kashmiri Pandits? That's the job of the government and I think they already knew what happened with them. They didn't need a movie to tell them. So if this movie was only made to make profit, then also it's all good.

It doesn't change or effect the lives of any person. But if this movie is being used to spread hate between communities then that's really bad. People making hate speeches after the screening, shouting anti-muslim slogans outside the movie hall. That shit is scary.

You go through any video on YouTube, whether it's about the movie or the real incident, it's filled with hateful comments against Muslims and other religions, and how Hinduism is the greatest religion in the world.

I saw one YouTube comment where a girl told she's a tribal Christian but she supports her Hindu brothers and sisters for what happened with Kashmiri pandits. The replies were filled with everyone telling her how her religion sucks and she needs to come back to Hinduism, because those are her roots, or that they don't need her support because she's a product of conversion.

If this movie is going to create more division between religions, then it would've been better if this film had never released.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: bashful_moon

Never..

Any thing that doesn't sit very well with the so called "liberals" or doesn't fan the usual narrative has no right time to see the light of the day..

I am yet to watch the movie, but my parents who have watched it told me that although the movie is good, it is focused on one family thus failing big time to bring out the mass plight on screen.

Despite such tame depiction, the maker has to be given Y Security (although I absolutely dislike Agnihotri. His ideology changes as per the reigning disposition, so no integrity and credibility at all) . Imagine what would be the case had he gone full-fledged with the depiction..

What is expected but still astounding is the silence of Bollywood, especially the likes of deshbhakt Kumar...

The khauff is real..


They didn't made movies on such topics but atleast they could come out in support or say something about it. They post/tweet/say about random world events but not something which happened in their home country.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Zeal17


They didn't made movies on such topics but atleast they could come out in support or say something about it. They post/tweet/say about random world events but not something which happened in their home country.

It requires both intellect, emotional maturity and blunt objectivity and may be some more attributes to accept, let alone express views on important topics. When an issue is blood-sanguine, heartbreaking and harrowing, it also requires empathy and feeling.

Phir khauff bhi to real hai na!!

Hence, it makes more sense to show sympathy for Burhann Bani..

It pleases the dispensation and marionette to chant justice for Afzal Guru..

Tweeting on world issues help them pretend that they care, increased woke-ness quotient is an additional advantage..

An old issue that happened at the very home front is raked mildly, and it is enough to send them to tizzy and shake them out of their comfort zone and this is what we get --- deafening, blinding, muting silence..

Black life matters -- yes it does

Jews lives matters- It did during holocaust as it does now

Muslim lives, especially post sept 11 2000, matters -- yes it did, it still does. New York for that matter was an applause worthy movie as was My Name is Khan.

Ukrainian lives matter. Their mass exodus to neighboring countries is real and should become a true narrative of home and world history. The victims of war deserve and hence should get both justice and closure..

Likewise, the lives of KPs matter. Although past cant be changed, it is at least time to acknowledge the hellish agony they were subject to. They are the victims of (civil) war and ethnic cleansing carried out by their own brethren at the behest of some outside force, Hence, it is time to rewrite history and offer them due apology if justice is not deliverable...

Edited by bashful_moon - 3 years ago

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