Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin Spoilers Thread #8 - Page 112

I have said this before, and without accusing or being offensive just wanted to state it’s actually the mindset or a perspective of the writers and creatives. To define what is pardonable or acceptable for a male vs female and portraying this in the show. I never denied and still agree that Sai has been wrong at several occasions, she also needs a lot of toning down, and growing up of her own to do. But the amount of wrong done to her and all that she has had to deal with in comparison to V is way too much. Just because he has given her a roof and food does not mean that she should be subjected to such harassment in the name of gratitude.The repercussions and the accusation is more grave when it Sai

Let me cite an example by drawing a parallel to explain what I mean.
Ajinkya episode - In an orthodox setup like Chavans, they would ideally never have allowed a guy into Sai’s room. Even if it was a ploy it is risking family repo in BK’s books which as per her character she should not have allowed. Now V doubted Sai, she almost reached her death bed because of him. How many stood up for her, and strongly /intensely and for how long? How many were really upset with V and accused him including Ashwini? Whoever did, it was very momentary and didn’t even last beyond a day or two. And in that too Sai was more accommodating even while being upset. Infact she had actually forgiven him even before they came home. Here she did nothing wrong, V was the culprit.

Cut to current track - Sai was wrong, but V led her on because of his inability to manage things and communicate properly. But so was everyone else in the family. Ashwini and Sai’s ex- supporters blame her, when it was their decision. Sai only questioned his change of behaviour and who SH was. It was Mohit who gave the infidelity angle to it. They could have chosen to stick by V, Sai never asked for it and it was their lack of trust on V. Similarly the BK gang never supported Sai, then why did they get influenced. They could have questioned her like they always did. V got injured in his attempt to save Sai. But Sai was also in danger and she could have been injured or died and V was the reason for it. What if something like that had happened, along with this revelation. Would V have been whitewashed like this? Maybe not, but he would have been forgiven easily. Sai has been cornered and ousted by everyone, when everyone including V have been wrong to some level in this.

The bottomline is, the extent of mistreatment and discrimination shown in the name of gender. Is it for a male to question a female’s character and be forgiven easily, but the same is not acceptable when it roles are reversed. Either ways its wrong. But so should be the repercussions and punishment(if I have to term it that way) Why is the anger multifold and unreasonable when its for Sai?

Originally posted by: sherry_24

I have said this before, and without accusing or being offensive just wanted to state it’s actually the mindset or a perspective of the writers and creatives. To define what is pardonable or acceptable for a male vs female and portraying this in the show. I never denied and still agree that Sai has been wrong at several occasions, she also needs a lot of toning down, and growing up of her own to do. But the amount of wrong done to her and all that she has had to deal with in comparison to V is way too much. Just because he has given her a roof and food does not mean that she should be subjected to such harassment in the name of gratitude.The repercussions and the accusation is more grave when it Sai

Let me cite an example by drawing a parallel to explain what I mean.
Ajinkya episode - In an orthodox setup like Chavans, they would ideally never have allowed a guy into Sai’s room. Even if it was a ploy it is risking family repo in BK’s books which as per her character she should not have allowed. Now V doubted Sai, she almost reached her death bed because of him. How many stood up for her, and strongly /intensely and for how long? How many were really upset with V and accused him including Ashwini? Whoever did, it was very momentary and didn’t even last beyond a day or two. And in that too Sai was more accommodating even while being upset. Infact she had actually forgiven him even before they came home. Here she did nothing wrong, V was the culprit.

Cut to current track - Sai was wrong, but V led her on because of his inability to manage things and communicate properly. But so was everyone else in the family. Ashwini and Sai’s ex- supporters blame her, when it was their decision. Sai only questioned his change of behaviour and who SH was. It was Mohit who gave the infidelity angle to it. They could have chosen to stick by V, Sai never asked for it and it was their lack of trust on V. Similarly the BK gang never supported Sai, then why did they get influenced. They could have questioned her like they always did. V got injured in his attempt to save Sai. But Sai was also in danger and she could have been injured or died and V was the reason for it. What if something like that had happened, along with this revelation. Would V have been whitewashed like this? Maybe not, but he would have been forgiven easily. Sai has been cornered and ousted by everyone, when everyone including V have been wrong to some level in this.

The bottomline is, the extent of mistreatment and discrimination shown in the name of gender. Is it for a male to question a female’s character and be forgiven easily, but the same is not acceptable when it roles are reversed. Either ways its wrong. But so should be the repercussions and punishment(if I have to term it that way) Why is the anger multifold and unreasonable when its for Sai?

Exactly...

I didn't expect Sai's realization would come at this point because she was not wrong at all... She gave him several opportunities to speak the truth but she got zilch..on that contrary the way he had defended Shruti it did look like he was in love with her.. So in all these where Sai stands.. Sai can't meet his friends but Virat can live with his friends wife..

I'm actually very disappointed this show always has been normalising crimes, sexism and abuses.. I was hoping Virat would be suspended even for a short period of time.. But NO🤢

However so many things came clear... The real face of Chavanis are shown.. Especially Aswini,Samrat and Shivani... How these chess character will shape up in the future this I'm looking forward to see..

What Sai feels about virat it's natural for any girl of her age who has never been close to any male apart from her father.. Still she is unable to see what Virat can do... Where his priorities.. She has trapped herself badly 😒

I am sure the writers can see the wrong messages they are propagating through this show and I am absolutely sure they are aware of the negative feedback and frustration from the viewers. Still they choose not to change anything 😡

We can keep complaining but nothing is going to happen . They will keep normalizing all the negative stuff in their story. Its very frustrating but we have to tolerate this crap.

I am tolerating only for one reason - Ayesha - Otherwise I would have said goodbye to this regressive shit a long time ago. Just training my mind to view it as just fiction and nothing else.

In logon se koi umeed mat rakhna, kuch nahin hone wala. 🤔

Absolutely agree about the poor messaging and storytelling. The problem is not V having expectations from.Sai to support/trust him, but its unreasonable if he expects blind faith after leading her on deliberately in a certain way.

What I find completely ridiculous is that DIG excuses him without even a suspension just because his "intentions" are right. Thats not how rules/law works. He cannot sheild a criminal, lie to his superior, violate a direct order (Shruti was wanted for questioning) and go without any repercussions.

DiG was even made to say explicitly that Virat was doing something unlawful.

Didnt Ashwini even say "dusron ke ghar ujaala karne ke liye apne ghar mein andhera nahi kiya jaata".

So its not like makers don't recognize these things. Yet instead of constructively addressing it, they bring it up and brush it away. Why show Ashwini and Ninad be good parents and tell V all these things. Why not have DIG counsel V. Why not get aaba to come in Vs dream as a guru to offer advice. Why not get Sunny to raise these things. So many options available..

Its kinda sad and ridiculous how they are white washing and making V mahaan when he clearly doesn't deserve it. His melting is stretched so much whereas Sai forgave him and was back in like 2 episodes!

Ashwini gave V some advice when she saw pp in his room but other than that no one really blamed V for too long. Mohit, pullu said things but he got like 10% of the hate and cruelty being meted out to Sai.

Why does the FL have to tolerate abuse, hate, neglect constantly?!

Its not like they cant create drama out of people being supportive to each other. Real-life has enough drama but people are not so extreme in their behavior.

Originally posted by: sherry_24

I have said this before, and without accusing or being offensive just wanted to state it’s actually the mindset or a perspective of the writers and creatives. To define what is pardonable or acceptable for a male vs female and portraying this in the show. I never denied and still agree that Sai has been wrong at several occasions, she also needs a lot of toning down, and growing up of her own to do. But the amount of wrong done to her and all that she has had to deal with in comparison to V is way too much. Just because he has given her a roof and food does not mean that she should be subjected to such harassment in the name of gratitude.The repercussions and the accusation is more grave when it Sai

Let me cite an example by drawing a parallel to explain what I mean.
Ajinkya episode - In an orthodox setup like Chavans, they would ideally never have allowed a guy into Sai’s room. Even if it was a ploy it is risking family repo in BK’s books which as per her character she should not have allowed. Now V doubted Sai, she almost reached her death bed because of him. How many stood up for her, and strongly /intensely and for how long? How many were really upset with V and accused him including Ashwini? Whoever did, it was very momentary and didn’t even last beyond a day or two. And in that too Sai was more accommodating even while being upset. Infact she had actually forgiven him even before they came home. Here she did nothing wrong, V was the culprit.

Cut to current track - Sai was wrong, but V led her on because of his inability to manage things and communicate properly. But so was everyone else in the family. Ashwini and Sai’s ex- supporters blame her, when it was their decision. Sai only questioned his change of behaviour and who SH was. It was Mohit who gave the infidelity angle to it. They could have chosen to stick by V, Sai never asked for it and it was their lack of trust on V. Similarly the BK gang never supported Sai, then why did they get influenced. They could have questioned her like they always did. V got injured in his attempt to save Sai. But Sai was also in danger and she could have been injured or died and V was the reason for it. What if something like that had happened, along with this revelation. Would V have been whitewashed like this? Maybe not, but he would have been forgiven easily. Sai has been cornered and ousted by everyone, when everyone including V have been wrong to some level in this.

The bottomline is, the extent of mistreatment and discrimination shown in the name of gender. Is it for a male to question a female’s character and be forgiven easily, but the same is not acceptable when it roles are reversed. Either ways its wrong. But so should be the repercussions and punishment(if I have to term it that way) Why is the anger multifold and unreasonable when its for Sai?

Everything you said is bang on....

They behave like that with Sai because subconsciously everyone knows that she is an orphan ... To jayegi to jayegi kahan...

Her villagers have abandoned her and V is her only legal relative and by extension CNwasis.

She also has particular idiosyncracies to her that makes it easy for them to direct her anger at her. Poor soul bears it the max she can and then bursts leading to further degradation. It's a vicious cycle.

The only person who can stand by her and support her is a very moody one. Good when good and horrible when it's bad.

I don't support either of them blindly... And the issues and misunderstanding created between them by others is purely a way to create more drama aka more episodes. Had it been real life, either they would have patched up long ago or Sai would have been happily living alone, safe out of CN.

All they need is proper communication and discussion.

Agreed that a primetime show shouldn't be showing all this. Certainly not in the name of entertainment and romance. But it's a money business afterall. All that matters is Paisa.

Such shows and such content will keep on coming till we keep on viewing. We all are guilty of it.

The other issue is that the makers are not paying heed to any of the suggestions.

I have said this many times earlier too. They had a readymade story and 1 another version ... They knew which tracks worked and which did not. Inspite of that, if they are not even ready to tweak to make it better what more can we expect. So i have no expectations from them, they would resolve any of the regressive issues with the story. The least they will do is show some punishment for sometime, some regret and brush it off.

So...

It's a show... I look at it that way... I don't support their actions. When I felt overwhelmed, I stopped watching. Gave me lot of peace. May stop watching again if gets too much.

P.S. i take it that this reply of yours is for the comment i made where I said dono ki galti hai. If you read it again, i said Sai reacted to what was presented to her. She is not completely at fault.

But the point is .... Galti kisi ki bhi ho... How you are correcting it is more important. Right now i see only Sai making the efforts. And she is stuck, earlier due to the legal aspect of it and now because of love. She will accept whatever is thrown at her.

V kab effort karega pata nahi. But whenever it will be, it cannot be compared to Sai in its magnitude. This i have accepted.

My only hope is whenever it resolves, V for once and for all should stand up for her in front of CNwasis and dole out rich clapbacks for the treatment they meted to her.

Again she is strong enough to handle it on her own, but they won't listen to her and therefore V has to speak up. That's all I ask. I hope we get it.

The family and Sai was given insight into Virat's state of mind by Shruti. Virat had actually seen the effect of his changed behavior since returning from mission on Sai. He expected Sai will be angry for not going to her award ceremony while waiting for Sahas to be born. But after Sai's speech, his view of Sai changed to before Sai's 2nd accident.

He was not ready to listen to Sunny who knows his feeling for Sai and has been absent all this while. Sai said today that Virat is angry and not in a state to understand or listen to anything. His anger need to go first, only then anything will have an effect on him. I think the anger will go away on Holi, but the way its gonna happen is the worrying part.

I saw that scene again when he wakes up & finds Sai's not there. Idk if I'd call that worry or not but I found the reaction in positive direction like i can't explain it's not like he felt relieved seeing her not there thank god Jaan Bach gayi type... Aafat se gaala choota!

The family goes from one extreme to another, except Kaku and her followers. They flipped on Virat and now on Sai. Virat is blood, no matter what he is family, but not Sai. They need to remember why they went against Virat. Until they accept their own mistake instead of pointing it on Sai they will never accept her wholeheartedly even if SaiRat is back together.

Kaku holds naam, parivar, izzat very highly. Even when Samrat went MIA for 1 year, they shouldve been angry, especially for Mansi Bua, but they instead focused on preventing divorce and keeping him home. Same way, because Virat is injured physically and he is showing hurt on his family, his action was brushed off. What is important for Kaku is IPS Virat Chavan back in the family.

How he is not curious or wondering where Sai is....i didnt see that reaction at all.

Originally posted by: mysticriver

I saw that scene again when he wakes up & finds Sai's not there. Idk if I'd call that worry or not but I found the reaction in positive direction like i can't explain it's not like he felt relieved seeing her not there thank god Jaan Bach gayi type... Aafat se gaala choota!