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Posted: 3 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: Rekha_ji

Nobody manipulated his words. It was in fact the OFFICIAL Royal Correspondent Richard Palmer who reported ALL of the above to PA (Press Association) who are the ONLY agency in the world to gain FULL ACCESS to royal engagements.

The story INCLUDING the "comments" was published by first of course PA, and then subsequently by The Mail, The Mirror, Metro... it was then tweeted by Nadine White.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#42

Ignorance and racism aren’t synonyms. But they are definitely not mutually exclusive.


Let me ask this question. And it’s a genuine question as I’m curious what others’ take is on this. Was William racist when he said Africa needed to control its population because over population was putting strains on wild life conservation? He has said this twice by the way.


I understand and even agree with the argument of giving someone a chance after their first problematic statement about race. But what if it’s at the very least their third time making a problematic race related statement? What if it comes from someone who has advisors and PR experts at his disposal, and probably gets coached and briefed on the subject, situation, and people he’ll be meeting with, before each and every appearance? What if despite all of that his instinct isn’t to say we need to find better resources and policies to help Africa with wild life conservation but rather to say we need to control its human population? Twice. What if in trying to sound empathetic his instinct is to say these wars and bloodsheds does not happen to us and to our people?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly

Ignorance and racism aren’t synonyms. But they are definitely not mutually exclusive.


Let me ask this question. And it’s a genuine question as I’m curious what others’ take is on this. Was William racist when he said Africa needed to control its population because over population was putting strains on wild life conservation? He has said this twice by the way.


I understand and even agree with the argument of giving someone a chance after their first problematic statement about race. But what if it’s at the very least their third time making a problematic race related statement? What if it comes from someone who has advisors and PR experts at his disposal, and probably gets coached and briefed on the subject, situation, and people he’ll be meeting with, before each and every appearance? What if despite all of that his instinct isn’t to say we need to find better resources and policies to help Africa with wild life conservation but rather to say we need to control its human population? Twice. What if in trying to sound empathetic his instinct is to say these wars and bloodsheds does not happen to us and to our people?

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Posted: 3 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: Alpenliebe

How this privileged white is so ignorant Europe's history? What about mass killings, ethnic cleansing, ghettos, concentration camps? Bosnian genocide just 30 years back! Perfect heir to the racist British monarchy.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: IAmLuvBolly


I disagree again with your take on this. I do not believe that it’s an extreme extrapolation to suggest that when he said wars don’t happen in Europe he meant wars only happen with Africans and Middle Easterners. That’s like saying crimes only happen in black neighborhoods. Isn’t that racist?

Racism doesn’t have to be overt for it to be racism. Subtle or implied racism can be even more dangerous because a lot of people will let it go and it festers and spreads in society.

There’s also his history of comments about Africa’s population and conservation of wild life. Dude is racist.


No, saying "Its so alien to see this in Europe" is nowhere similar to saying, "Crimes happen only in Black neighbourhoods". Don't know about the Africa wildlife comment, will have to look it up. But on topic:


Here there's no proof that he actually meant to say, "War is not for blond hair blue eyes people". He simply said that "It's alien to Europe". That's ignorant, but cannot be called 'racist' in any way. And like I said, if he was talking about more recent times, then he isn't technically wrong. If he meant to say, "We don't usually see this in Europe", then that's not racism in any way, explicit or implicit.


Some people really have the habit of calling anyone racist at the drop of a har for the slightest thing, and that's not a good practise. It's a serious issue and shouldn't be used like this.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Is ignorance synonymous with racism?

Irrespective, of whether he mentioned Africa or Asia or not, Prince William's statement is prejudiced and ignorant. It conveniently forgets the violent and bloody history of Europe. The two world Wars were mostly fought in Europe. Ever since the wars Eastern Europe and the Balkans have been embroiled in some sort of perpetual conflict.

Don't get me wrong, I am pissed off at how ignorant and prejudicial William is being - but is he a racist? That's a serious accusation.

You might argue that racism is a form of prejudice and that his perception that it is unusual to see violent conflict in Europe (which is predominantly white) is racist. And I agree, the statement is racist or has racial undertones.

But, I ask, does making one racially prejudiced statement make a person racist?

I think we all have some misguided perceptions due to how media presents the world. Violence and conflict in predominantly poc nations are highly exaggerated, vilified, and presented as a problem inherent within the peoples and nation. Violence and conflict in predominantly white nations are downplayed, glossed over, and presented as a result of happenstance or other issues. So much so that even poc folks think violence and conflict are normal for their countries but unusual for white countries.

If a person of color from a region of wartorn conflict expresses surprise over violence in Ukraine - is that person racist? Yes, there may be some internalized racism because of perceptions but it is not intentional or malicious.

I feel that sometimes accusations of racism are thrown very arbitrarily. Sometimes people make prejudicial statements or racially biased statements not because they actually are racists but because the worldview they have been provided in their sheltered life is flawed. If a person sticks to their worldview and believes European nations or white people are inherently better than other nations or people of color then they are racist. But if a person acknowledges their limitations and is open to learning and bears no bias or ill-will to people then they are not racist. I believe that people deserve at least one chance to show they can be better before being labeled a racist.

That being said no one should be obligated or expected to show understanding to someone who has hurt them. And it is perfectly fine to hold a Prince to a higher standard of scrutiny than the average Joe. But in my opinion, being a racist is being a really shitty human being, and its quite a loaded thing to accuse someone off. There are indeed racists in this world and its fine to label them as such - but jumping the gun to label people able and willing to learn and change as racists just burns bridges and sets the world on fire.


Exactly. This.


By this logic, every single human being is a racist. Like I said, making arbitrary accusations of racism doesn't do anyone any favour.

Edited by Mahisa_22 - 3 years ago

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