Gauhar and malala supports indian women rights - Page 22

Originally posted by: Zeal17

What? Teaching Uniformity is forced? You want kids to make personal choice now in schools.. make sense please!!

How do expect adults to make personal choice if you have been teaching them obedience and conformity all their lives?

"Muslim women are being oppressed because they are being forced to wear a hijab by their family".

"I will fix this by forcing women who clearly want to keep the hijab to take off the hijab or don't get educated. I'm such a warrior"

Oh the irony.

Originally posted by: desigal90

A Muslim girl wears a hijab as for her it's a symbol of modesty and highlighting her inner traits as opposed to outer appearance. That's her reasoning. Which by the way, is not up for debate because it's HER religion and HER reasoning. The religion can say that if you wear a hijab you'll be taken to the 17th sky in heaven, who the eff cares? This is her faith, and she doesn't have to justify to you her faith. She's not asking you to follow it. So why are you so obsessed?

That is a foreign concept for some...why are people assuming that hijaab is not a part of the religion?

People are trying to go on another tangent by arguing about women empowerment and all that jazz....because there is simply no valid answer to what I am asking....why turban but no hijaab??

Originally posted by: desigal90

"Muslim women are being oppressed because they are being forced to wear a hijab by their family".

"I will fix this by forcing women who clearly want to keep the hijab to take off the hijab or don't get educated. I'm such a warrior"

Oh the irony.

Are you going to seriously claim all or majority of or even a large percentage of veiled women are actually given the choice?

You've achieved a position in your life that you can make that choice. Good for you! Congratulations!

Most women don't or are emotionally programmed to accept such dictates without question.

It's your choice versus a decent chance for the millions who don't get to make that choice.

Or is the suggestion that feminism and equal rights have mostly conquered the tendency of mankind to subjugate the (physically) weaker half?

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

One thing I learned from this thread.

Religion comes into the pic, women will always lose. 100%.

Every religious debate over women's rights ends in this, be it the nuns who got abused and killed, Sabarimala, now Islamic head coverings.

No wonder equality has been slow to arrive. Women themselves prioritize everything else.

Best part is it's the women who have actually achieved something in their lives who insist on giving the *choice* to the 80% who have no choice. 😆 (picked 80% because that's the number said to live in poverty)

No girl no...I will tell you one thing....when my daughter gets married....there won't be any kanyadaan...my daughter is not my personal property that can be handed over to some one...but I am not going to tell someone else to not do kanyadaan if that is what they believe in.....don't confuse right of one religion to be the same as another religion......you and me are arguing over chalk and cheese here...😆

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

That is a foreign concept for some...why are people assuming that hijaab is not a part of the religion?

People are trying to go on another tangent by arguing about women empowerment and all that jazz....because there is simply no valid answer to what I am asking....why turban but no hijaab??

And I answered that twice I think.

Human rights need to come before religion. Hijab was and is meant to control while turban is not.

Originally posted by: desigal90

You can't take a hijab off. Once your start wearing it, it's not an "on off" thing. Anywhere you have males you need to wear it per the religion. Why is this hard to understand?

Well then they should attend a school that will accommodate their beliefs.

There are plenty of Muslim girls who only wear it in specific situations, they'll wear it at home, take it off outside, or don't wear it properly, it only covers half their heads, and keeps falling off.

As someone raised in US it always amazes me how desis in India and Pakistan have no concept of respecting someone else's religion. Here in the USA, we have workplace laws that prohibit any sort of discrimination based on someone's religion. Hell, if some of these comments were said to a Muslim woman in the US at work, it would be considered harassment. And those people would have been fired.

It's considered offensive to pass judgement and comments about someone else's religious practice or choices. Unreal.

Muslims girls go through all their schooling here with a hijab, yes even with uniforms, but somehow the education in India is different?

My sister in law went through medical school with a hijab in Touro, Vallejo California, became a doctor in a hijab, treated patients in a hijab, but somehow girls can't do basic education in a hijab?

Originally posted by: desigal90

A Muslim girl wears a hijab as for her it's a symbol of modesty and highlighting her inner traits as opposed to outer appearance. That's her reasoning. Which by the way, is not up for debate because it's HER religion and HER reasoning. The religion can say that if you wear a hijab you'll be taken to the 17th sky in heaven, who the eff cares? This is her faith, and she doesn't have to justify to you her faith. She's not asking you to follow it. So why are you so obsessed?

Hijab was to hide neck shoulders and chest area and not to be revealed to anyone other than your husband. In case school girls for your future husband.

Why were practices like Sati, Triple Talaq or goonghat eradicated from society?

Originally posted by: Heisenberg17_

Well then they should attend a school that will accommodate their beliefs.

There are plenty of Muslim girls who only wear it in specific situations, they'll wear it at home, take it off outside, or don't wear it properly, it only covers half their heads, and keeps falling off.

Would you call a school that allows turbans and not hijaab...discriminating against one religion?