Vikrant- the manipulator and gaslighter

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Posted: 3 years ago
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gaslight

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gerund or present participle: gaslighting

manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.



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verb

past tense: manipulated; past participle: manipulated

1.

handle or control (a tool, mechanism, information, etc.) in a skilful manner.

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operate

handle

work

control

use

employ

utilize

alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer.

"the pupils can manipulate the data or screen image"

examine or treat (a part of the body) by feeling or moving it with the hand.

"this system of healing is based on manipulating the ligaments of the spine"

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massage

rub

knead

feel

palpate

2.

control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly or unscrupulously.





It striked me today while watching the show. My dad was like - She's giving him false hope. She's leading him on. If she wanted nothing to do with him whether he lives or die should not matter. Why brought him home with her?



And I thought, that's true. Bringing him home is crossing a line. She could have left him in another rehab or his own home and visited every now and then. But it didn't happen.



V has been manipulating her since day 1.


- if you say I will leave the job.

- immediately after the news of her father's death, he didn't comfort her for her loss. Instead he used it to proclaim his love.

- he constantly makes her feel she's wrong. She's not wrong to show humanity. She's not wrong to trying to save his job. Doesn't matter if it's cause he's the ex and she still has feelings. She knew him, pretty sure she will give same pass for abhay sia piroz Ansari or pc too.

- he always tells her he loves her and "mujhe tum chahiye", "tum pas raho main thik ho jaunga". Those aren't because he's detoxing and he's not in his senses. He is making her feel uncomfortable and he pretends as if her denial is making him feel bad. As a doctor he knows another human being isn't a medicine to fix a patient. She has every right to not reciprocate the same for him. Since day 1 she has told him she's over him, he should focus on his wife and have kids, etc. She told over and over again but he don't listen, he tells that he loves her, don't acknowledge that it's cheating on his wife and don't take her concern seriously. He has no plan to divorce his wife or seriously commit to D if it happens. He just wants her and that's it.

- today also D said "I will tell your wife" and he used the opportunity to make her feel guilty. "Kya kahogi tum, uska pati apni ex se pyar karta hai?" It's not even her problem, it's his fault and he should be held accountable for not being faithful to his wife. But he pretended as if it's her fault. That him having feelings is her mistake. Her face dropped with the expression of guilt, she played right into his traps.

- he has been making her feel guilt since day 1. I married because you left me. I am unhappy because of you. I started doing drugs because of you. I am now going to lose job because of you. Till a point D pushed back, said it's not her fault. I think after the father's death news and the way he made his way, she started to think maybe it's actually her fault. Her father chose death and her mother chose not to inform, so maybe V did have a point. Even though she isn't having affair or not feeling the same, she feels responsible for him. At this point she wants him to be better so that she can feel better, be free of guilt. All she wants him is to leave - leave her home, the hospital, the city. She wants to be away from the manipulator. If she wanted him back, she would have done more. Be extra nice, have softness in eyes, won't want him to leave. All I see is guilt, because she's lying and not because this is an emotional affair.



I am not sure what D will do next. Going by Abhays parents past, aditi /V/D is a similar love triangle. I hope unlike vinayak, V don't go with the other woman. And maybe if Abhay asks her if she's having an affair, she does self reflection and takes herself away from the situation. Guilt aside, lying to another person's wife, giving the hint that she's having affair with a married man is wrong.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#2

Bang on post 👏

Normalising EMA is the worst which they makers are right royalty doing to show that it’s all done for sake of love 🤢🤬

I’m not against loving your ex.

Why can’t V get divorced from Aditi and then show ViPika love story again 😡🤬

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

gaslight

/ˈɡaslʌɪt/

Learn to pronounce

verb

gerund or present participle: gaslighting

manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.



manipulate

/məˈnɪpjʊleɪt/

Learn to pronounce

See definitions in:

All

Computing

Medicine

verb

past tense: manipulated; past participle: manipulated

1.

handle or control (a tool, mechanism, information, etc.) in a skilful manner.

""

Similar:

operate

handle

work

control

use

employ

utilize

alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer.

"the pupils can manipulate the data or screen image"

examine or treat (a part of the body) by feeling or moving it with the hand.

"this system of healing is based on manipulating the ligaments of the spine"

Similar:

massage

rub

knead

feel

palpate

2.

control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly or unscrupulously.





It striked me today while watching the show. My dad was like - She's giving him false hope. She's leading him on. If she wanted nothing to do with him whether he lives or die should not matter. Why brought him home with her?



And I thought, that's true. Bringing him home is crossing a line. She could have left him in another rehab or his own home and visited every now and then. But it didn't happen.



V has been manipulating her since day 1.


- if you say I will leave the job.

- immediately after the news of her father's death, he didn't comfort her for her loss. Instead he used it to proclaim his love.

- he constantly makes her feel she's wrong. She's not wrong to show humanity. She's not wrong to trying to save his job. Doesn't matter if it's cause he's the ex and she still has feelings. She knew him, pretty sure she will give same pass for abhay sia piroz Ansari or pc too.

- he always tells her he loves her and "mujhe tum chahiye", "tum pas raho main thik ho jaunga". Those aren't because he's detoxing and he's not in his senses. He is making her feel uncomfortable and he pretends as if her denial is making him feel bad. As a doctor he knows another human being isn't a medicine to fix a patient. She has every right to not reciprocate the same for him. Since day 1 she has told him she's over him, he should focus on his wife and have kids, etc. She told over and over again but he don't listen, he tells that he loves her, don't acknowledge that it's cheating on his wife and don't take her concern seriously. He has no plan to divorce his wife or seriously commit to D if it happens. He just wants her and that's it.

- today also D said "I will tell your wife" and he used the opportunity to make her feel guilty. "Kya kahogi tum, uska pati apni ex se pyar karta hai?" It's not even her problem, it's his fault and he should be held accountable for not being faithful to his wife. But he pretended as if it's her fault. That him having feelings is her mistake. Her face dropped with the expression of guilt, she played right into his traps.

- he has been making her feel guilt since day 1. I married because you left me. I am unhappy because of you. I started doing drugs because of you. I am now going to lose job because of you. Till a point D pushed back, said it's not her fault. I think after the father's death news and the way he made his way, she started to think maybe it's actually her fault. Her father chose death and her mother chose not to inform, so maybe V did have a point. Even though she isn't having affair or not feeling the same, she feels responsible for him. At this point she wants him to be better so that she can feel better, be free of guilt. All she wants him is to leave - leave her home, the hospital, the city. She wants to be away from the manipulator. If she wanted him back, she would have done more. Be extra nice, have softness in eyes, won't want him to leave. All I see is guilt, because she's lying and not because this is an emotional affair.



I am not sure what D will do next. Going by Abhays parents past, aditi /V/D is a similar love triangle. I hope unlike vinayak, V don't go with the other woman. And maybe if Abhay asks her if she's having an affair, she does self reflection and takes herself away from the situation. Guilt aside, lying to another person's wife, giving the hint that she's having affair with a married man is wrong.

Woh hospital wala scene mereko bhi bohot galat strike kiya tha. He even tried to hold her hand but woh hata li. And when he blamed her for his drug addiction too. It's all very subtle. But baar baar ek hi baat ko repeat kiya jaaye toh it starts to affect you. Dipika's silence continues to give Vikrant more room to try and guilt trip her. At least aaj jake woh itna insist ki and she gave him an ultimatum too. That is why she wants Aditi to come to Mumbai too when even tho she lowkey knows that the consequences would not be pretty. She just wants that break that only Aditi can give her. And honestly even I'm waiting for Aditi. Yeh first time hoga ki I'm so excited for the sautan to enter the story.


Now Abhay is also following the same footsteps. Aaj Dipika ne bol diya ki she is still pissed off at how he left her team. Kitna rudely usse baat kiya tha. She being his senior and mentor, wanted to know his reasons and what he basically said was - frankly I don't give a damn. Now he's back with his lame ass justification as if that somehow makes it right. Yaha pe bhi na chahte hue bhi she became the dusri aurat.


Vikrant and Abhay are two sides of the same coin. Iska ek hi solution hai Deepu yeh hospital chor ke bhag jaye.


And one more thing - ye Vikrant ka flirting game kitna kharab hai. The second hand embarrassment I got the entire time .... Kaise yeh dono boyfriend girlfriend the. I was like - read the room bro READ THE DAMN ROOM

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

gaslight

/ˈɡaslʌɪt/

Learn to pronounce

verb

gerund or present participle: gaslighting

manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.



manipulate

/məˈnɪpjʊleɪt/

Learn to pronounce

See definitions in:

All

Computing

Medicine

verb

past tense: manipulated; past participle: manipulated

1.

handle or control (a tool, mechanism, information, etc.) in a skilful manner.

""

Similar:

operate

handle

work

control

use

employ

utilize

alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer.

"the pupils can manipulate the data or screen image"

examine or treat (a part of the body) by feeling or moving it with the hand.

"this system of healing is based on manipulating the ligaments of the spine"

Similar:

massage

rub

knead

feel

palpate

2.

control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly or unscrupulously.





It striked me today while watching the show. My dad was like - She's giving him false hope. She's leading him on. If she wanted nothing to do with him whether he lives or die should not matter. Why brought him home with her?



And I thought, that's true. Bringing him home is crossing a line. She could have left him in another rehab or his own home and visited every now and then. But it didn't happen.



V has been manipulating her since day 1.


- if you say I will leave the job.

- immediately after the news of her father's death, he didn't comfort her for her loss. Instead he used it to proclaim his love.

- he constantly makes her feel she's wrong. She's not wrong to show humanity. She's not wrong to trying to save his job. Doesn't matter if it's cause he's the ex and she still has feelings. She knew him, pretty sure she will give same pass for abhay sia piroz Ansari or pc too.

- he always tells her he loves her and "mujhe tum chahiye", "tum pas raho main thik ho jaunga". Those aren't because he's detoxing and he's not in his senses. He is making her feel uncomfortable and he pretends as if her denial is making him feel bad. As a doctor he knows another human being isn't a medicine to fix a patient. She has every right to not reciprocate the same for him. Since day 1 she has told him she's over him, he should focus on his wife and have kids, etc. She told over and over again but he don't listen, he tells that he loves her, don't acknowledge that it's cheating on his wife and don't take her concern seriously. He has no plan to divorce his wife or seriously commit to D if it happens. He just wants her and that's it.

- today also D said "I will tell your wife" and he used the opportunity to make her feel guilty. "Kya kahogi tum, uska pati apni ex se pyar karta hai?" It's not even her problem, it's his fault and he should be held accountable for not being faithful to his wife. But he pretended as if it's her fault. That him having feelings is her mistake. Her face dropped with the expression of guilt, she played right into his traps.

- he has been making her feel guilt since day 1. I married because you left me. I am unhappy because of you. I started doing drugs because of you. I am now going to lose job because of you. Till a point D pushed back, said it's not her fault. I think after the father's death news and the way he made his way, she started to think maybe it's actually her fault. Her father chose death and her mother chose not to inform, so maybe V did have a point. Even though she isn't having affair or not feeling the same, she feels responsible for him. At this point she wants him to be better so that she can feel better, be free of guilt. All she wants him is to leave - leave her home, the hospital, the city. She wants to be away from the manipulator. If she wanted him back, she would have done more. Be extra nice, have softness in eyes, won't want him to leave. All I see is guilt, because she's lying and not because this is an emotional affair.



I am not sure what D will do next. Going by Abhays parents past, aditi /V/D is a similar love triangle. I hope unlike vinayak, V don't go with the other woman. And maybe if Abhay asks her if she's having an affair, she does self reflection and takes herself away from the situation. Guilt aside, lying to another person's wife, giving the hint that she's having affair with a married man is wrong.

I didn't understand his character. Matlab you want D back , you acknowledge your past mistakes but you want to do blame game too plus wahi mistakes repeat kiye ja rahe ho.

Like Rima I also think Aditi aaye to iss aadmi ka dimaag thoda bahot thikane par aaye.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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D shouldn't have hidden this. If she was over V, there wasn't any reason to protect him when he was outright wrong. Why did she do this? All this when she's been introduced to us as an idealistic person? A person who wants to do the right thing?

Maybe she did this in goodwill. She didn't want his career and life to get ruined when he himself wasn't worried one bit. Possibly she doesn't know that the waters of V's manipulation run deep.

D just saw a small glimpse of it 10 years ago. Not the whole picture. But back then she was quick to see through.

I think she's getting pulled towards V as he is only person with whom she was close in the past and is now in contact with.

D has never let anyone in for years. She doesn't need anyone but she might want company. Just someone who could lend an ear. And V is definitely not the person.

Maybe she thinks she can still get out of this mess. But how'll that happen? She truly needs time to think over this. To process everything. Too much is happening all at once.

We still have a few weeks. Hopefully Deepika sees the light. And hopefully Aditi doesn't have to spend the rest of her life in the dark.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Vikrant should do meditation.... May be become a monk and retire himself from the futile materialistic pleasures of love, marriage, kids etc..😆. His and other peoples' world would become better.😆. Not everyone deserves or need a partner.. Some people need to sort themselves out first before adding others into their lives.. 😆

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Posted: 3 years ago
#7

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

gaslight

/ˈɡaslʌɪt/

Learn to pronounce

verb

gerund or present participle: gaslighting

manipulate (someone) by psychological means into doubting their own sanity.



manipulate

/məˈnɪpjʊleɪt/

Learn to pronounce

See definitions in:

All

Computing

Medicine

verb

past tense: manipulated; past participle: manipulated

1.

handle or control (a tool, mechanism, information, etc.) in a skilful manner.

""

Similar:

operate

handle

work

control

use

employ

utilize

alter, edit, or move (text or data) on a computer.

"the pupils can manipulate the data or screen image"

examine or treat (a part of the body) by feeling or moving it with the hand.

"this system of healing is based on manipulating the ligaments of the spine"

Similar:

massage

rub

knead

feel

palpate

2.

control or influence (a person or situation) cleverly or unscrupulously.





It striked me today while watching the show. My dad was like - She's giving him false hope. She's leading him on. If she wanted nothing to do with him whether he lives or die should not matter. Why brought him home with her?



And I thought, that's true. Bringing him home is crossing a line. She could have left him in another rehab or his own home and visited every now and then. But it didn't happen.



V has been manipulating her since day 1.


- if you say I will leave the job.

- immediately after the news of her father's death, he didn't comfort her for her loss. Instead he used it to proclaim his love.

- he constantly makes her feel she's wrong. She's not wrong to show humanity. She's not wrong to trying to save his job. Doesn't matter if it's cause he's the ex and she still has feelings. She knew him, pretty sure she will give same pass for abhay sia piroz Ansari or pc too.

- he always tells her he loves her and "mujhe tum chahiye", "tum pas raho main thik ho jaunga". Those aren't because he's detoxing and he's not in his senses. He is making her feel uncomfortable and he pretends as if her denial is making him feel bad. As a doctor he knows another human being isn't a medicine to fix a patient. She has every right to not reciprocate the same for him. Since day 1 she has told him she's over him, he should focus on his wife and have kids, etc. She told over and over again but he don't listen, he tells that he loves her, don't acknowledge that it's cheating on his wife and don't take her concern seriously. He has no plan to divorce his wife or seriously commit to D if it happens. He just wants her and that's it.

- today also D said "I will tell your wife" and he used the opportunity to make her feel guilty. "Kya kahogi tum, uska pati apni ex se pyar karta hai?" It's not even her problem, it's his fault and he should be held accountable for not being faithful to his wife. But he pretended as if it's her fault. That him having feelings is her mistake. Her face dropped with the expression of guilt, she played right into his traps.

- he has been making her feel guilt since day 1. I married because you left me. I am unhappy because of you. I started doing drugs because of you. I am now going to lose job because of you. Till a point D pushed back, said it's not her fault. I think after the father's death news and the way he made his way, she started to think maybe it's actually her fault. Her father chose death and her mother chose not to inform, so maybe V did have a point. Even though she isn't having affair or not feeling the same, she feels responsible for him. At this point she wants him to be better so that she can feel better, be free of guilt. All she wants him is to leave - leave her home, the hospital, the city. She wants to be away from the manipulator. If she wanted him back, she would have done more. Be extra nice, have softness in eyes, won't want him to leave. All I see is guilt, because she's lying and not because this is an emotional affair.



I am not sure what D will do next. Going by Abhays parents past, aditi /V/D is a similar love triangle. I hope unlike vinayak, V don't go with the other woman. And maybe if Abhay asks her if she's having an affair, she does self reflection and takes herself away from the situation. Guilt aside, lying to another person's wife, giving the hint that she's having affair with a married man is wrong.

Actually this is what is happening. This is so true. Unfortunately, Rohit and Aditi have KILLER chemistry. I wish he weren't married, or at least divorced. Then this won't be extramarital at all. But still, these are complex emotions people go through. So let's see how they show us
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Posted: 3 years ago
#8

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Bang on post 👏

Normalising EMA is the worst which they makers are right royalty doing to show that it’s all done for sake of love 🤢🤬

I’m not against loving your ex.

Why can’t V get divorced from Aditi and then show ViPika love story again 😡🤬

i have different take on ema thing



Is it actually ema if a married man is pursuing you if you are repeatedly rejecting him? It's more like harrassment, and giving pain to the wife. Makers have repeatedly shown it's one sided feeling from V, and D isn't comfortable.


For eg the car scene when D takes him to rehab. Look at the dialogue she said - something like acha hai ziddi ladki se pyar nahi hoga. She has told him on his face that she want him to move on. She has slyly told him the same. When she didn't tell him to leave the job when he first arrived as a boss, he took it as she's having feelings and now playing hard to get him. His mindset is such. But how can she tell him to leave job, that's not right. Even if she did, he would have taken it as - tumhare liye kaam chor diya.



If makers don't want to pair these two up by this or next week D should cut her ties off him. Or else it's glorifying ema as you said. Also I feel if V divorces his wife, D will be horrified that she ruined a home. I don't see even then these two sustaining for a long time.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Yes this is is what I’ve been saying form the beginning, I never trusted V, he is a negative character, and remain the same, if he really wanted Deepak back, he would have divorced his wife and then approached Deepika with a clean slate, but no he is pushing D to do it first without any intentions of either leaving his wife or even letting his wife know about true feelings, he doesn’t even call her to let her know, what kind of husband is he? Really pathetic, he wants D to commit first then he will take a decision of his future? Otherwise he has a wife to reach out.

His change of behaviour all started when he saw Abhay close to D and suspected their affair, he is a sadist in a way who doesn’t want D to move on her life with another person, he can’t digest that D can forget him and move on in her life and still be happy, where’s he is thought married is not happy with his current relationship

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Posted: 3 years ago
#10

Originally posted by: Rima_123

Woh hospital wala scene mereko bhi bohot galat strike kiya tha. He even tried to hold her hand but woh hata li. And when he blamed her for his drug addiction too. It's all very subtle. But baar baar ek hi baat ko repeat kiya jaaye toh it starts to affect you. Dipika's silence continues to give Vikrant more room to try and guilt trip her. At least aaj jake woh itna insist ki and she gave him an ultimatum too. That is why she wants Aditi to come to Mumbai too when even tho she lowkey knows that the consequences would not be pretty. She just wants that break that only Aditi can give her. And honestly even I'm waiting for Aditi. Yeh first time hoga ki I'm so excited for the sautan to enter the story.



D is the sautan 😂 jokes apart yeah. Aditi should enter and either straighten up her charsi pati or divorce his ass after venting her frustration. No wife deserves a man lile him - liar, manipulator, cheater. D has said her piece but he don't want to get it. He's not in love with her, leaving aside his marital status, if the person you love isn't reciprocating, leave him/her alone. He's not doing that. That's harrassment.



Exactly when someone is repeatedly telling that it's your fault, after a point your walls start to break and you think, maybe I am. 1% . Then that 1% becomes 29, 30, 80, and full responsibility.


Now Abhay is also following the same footsteps. Aaj Dipika ne bol diya ki she is still pissed off at how he left her team. Kitna rudely usse baat kiya tha. She being his senior and mentor, wanted to know his reasons and what he basically said was - frankly I don't give a damn. Now he's back with his lame ass justification as if that somehow makes it right. Yaha pe bhi na chahte hue bhi she became the dusri aurat.


Vikrant and Abhay are two sides of the same coin. Iska ek hi solution hai Deepu yeh hospital chor ke bhag jaye.


And one more thing - ye Vikrant ka flirting game kitna kharab hai. The second hand embarrassment I got the entire time .... Kaise yeh dono boyfriend girlfriend the. I was like - read the room bro READ THE DAMN ROOM

that was so true though, unknowingly she's ruining two relationships and she will be in so much guilt. A tried to take himself away from situation post the engagement ended. He decided not to chase D, he changed department. It's only when D interfered between him and piroz, maybe venting her own frustration of V, is when Abhay will try to clear air and tell the truth. It's not right. Having feelings isn't right. But I also see it as how one moment of weakness can ruin everything. He impulsively left a message and it just rolled from there.



Lmao V just tries to poke and poke as if that will make her melt. She's being nice to him and he thinks he's bringing down her wall.



You always want her to leave 🤣🤣🤣🤣 maybe she will. Maybe these men will leave.

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