Why are film reviews politicised now? - Page 2

Hain?DDLJ is anti Hindu? LMFAO! I guess people have TOO much time at their hands now and cheaper internet made it worse.

I have seen articles claiming Deewar is 'Islamic conversion propaganda' because Amitabh wears Billa no. 786 in it whose value is explained by Rahim chacha and he remains alive as long as he wears that arm band. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And that Deewar is anti Hindu because Amitabh becomes atheist after death of his dad and humiliation he got as a kid. That 'aaj khush toh bahut hoge na tum' scene is actually pro religion and shows a man finally crumbling in helplessness begging God to save his mom. Yet it was labeled anti Hindu.

Apparently Amitabh, Salim-Javed are their new whipping boys for some characters like Hera Pheri and Naastik, in which Amitabh is bitter and borderline atheist, questions God until his faith is restored in end.

I mean how much time these bloggers have?

I hate all wings now. Literally. Left or right or whatever.

I thought Anna Vetticad probably stretched it too far to call Bahubali scene as 'rape'. I did not like the stripping of Avantika by Shivudu but it is not rape. Rape was a very loaded word to use.

Sagarika Ghose had written a cheap editorial claiming RDB promotes violence and incites youth to kill elected representatives. Huh? Nowhere does film encourage youth to kill ministers. Rather asks them to be part of system through IAS, IPS, politics, armed forces etc. So many years since 2006, I want to know how many youth killed a minister after watching that film?

I am TIRED of every ad, book, film, song, social media post shred apart in name of ideology.

I am not surprised SRK, late Rishi Kapoor and few other actors had openly criticised being asked to comment on X,Y,Z issue or linked to religion.

I am amused how Rajamouli was called casteist, accused of promoting casteism in Bahubali series. I mean, what is a film set in ancient era supposed to show? They will mention the princess is a Kshatriya. You cannot erase the past.

I hated reviews of Panipat, Padmavat, Bajirao Mastani, Atrangi Re, PK, OMG, web series like Pataal Lok, Leila, Ghoul accusing them of being anti X community or Y caste.

Or the pre release whining about Kalank 'promoting love jihad'.

It is insane how Akshay becomes anti Hindu or anti Muslim depending on which film he does. Or Rohit Shetty gets branded anti Hindu for Singham 2 but anti Muslim for Sooryavanshi.

Aamir was anti Hindu for PK but 'anti Pakistan' for Sarfarosh and suddenly became nationalist if he did Dangal?

SRK is Islamist if he does MNIK but is accused of promoting 'Hindu practices like Karva Chauth' when he does DDLJ, K3G?

Saif is anti Sikh because his character throws his kara in Sacred Games? Huh? Can maker not even tell a damn story or show a frustrated character?

The gender activists are even worse with their labelling same actor as icon of feminism in one film and as epitome of regression in another. These days MRA trolls joined the fray to label films like Thappad 'anti men'. 🤣

Can our films be left alone and our artistes just be?

Can political editors stop trying to act as film critics?

I think we have right to show rioters, invaders, battles, criminals or even fictional stories as we want. Without columnists attacking filmmakers, artistes and shaming audience for liking or watching a film.

I am not an Islamophobe or promoting Sati/Jauhar if I liked Padmavat. I am not casteist for liking Bahubali. I am not anti Hindu for liking PK, OMG. I am not anti India if I liked Haider and Maachis. I am not a war monger if I liked Border. I watched or liked films for different reasons. Hope trolls and wannabe columnists realise and STFU.

These days you cannot even post an opinion without some activist of some wing trolling you for your choices.

Leave our entertainment ALONE.

PS - Funny thing is that SSR was accused of promoting love jihad through playing Muslim characters in PK and Kedarnath. 🤣

Apparently a guy cannot do roles without being accused of an agenda.

Akshay is promoting conversions in Mission Mangal but is Islamophobe for Sooryavanshi.

Actors have agenda or bloody commentators and online columnists?

Originally posted by: atominis

Hain?DDLJ is anti Hindu? LMFAO! I guess people have TOO much time at their hands now and cheaper internet made it worse.

I have seen articles claiming Deewar is 'Islamic conversion propaganda' because Amitabh wears Billa no. 786 in it whose value is explained by Rahim chacha and he remains alive as long as he wears that arm band. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And that Deewar is anti Hindu because Amitabh becomes atheist after death of his dad and humiliation he got as a kid. That 'aaj khush toh bahut hoge na tum' scene is actually pro religion and shows a man finally crumbling in helplessness begging God to save his mom. Yet it was labeled anti Hindu.

Apparently Amitabh, Salim-Javed are their new whipping boys for some characters like Hera Pheri and Naastik, in which Amitabh is bitter and borderline atheist, questions God until his faith is restored in end.

I mean how much time these bloggers have?

I hate all wings now. Literally. Left or right or whatever.

I thought Anna Vetticad probably stretched it too far to call Bahubali scene as 'rape'. I did not like the stripping of Avantika by Shivudu but it is not rape. Rape was a very loaded word to use.

Sagarika Ghose had written a cheap editorial claiming RDB promotes violence and incites youth to kill elected representatives. Huh? Nowhere does film encourage youth to kill ministers. Rather asks them to be part of system through IAS, IPS, politics, armed forces etc. So many years since 2006, I want to know how many youth killed a minister after watching that film?

I am TIRED of every ad, book, film, song, social media post shred apart in name of ideology.

I am not surprised SRK, late Rishi Kapoor and few other actors had openly criticised being asked to comment on X,Y,Z issue or linked to religion.

I am amused how Rajamouli was called casteist, accused of promoting casteism in Bahubali series. I mean, what is a film set in ancient era supposed to show? They will mention the princess is a Kshatriya. You cannot erase the past.

I hated reviews of Panipat, Padmavat, Bajirao Mastani, Atrangi Re, PK, OMG, web series like Pataal Lok, Leila, Ghoul accusing them of being anti X community or Y caste.

Or the pre release whining about Kalank 'promoting love jihad'.

It is insane how Akshay becomes anti Hindu or anti Muslim depending on which film he does. Or Rohit Shetty gets branded anti Hindu for Singham 2 but anti Muslim for Sooryavanshi.

Aamir was anti Hindu for PK but 'anti Pakistan' for Sarfarosh and suddenly became nationalist if he did Dangal?

SRK is Islamist if he does MNIK but is accused of promoting 'Hindu practices like Karva Chauth' when he does DDLJ, K3G?

Saif is anti Sikh because his character throws his kara in Sacred Games? Huh? Can maker not even tell a damn story or show a frustrated character?

The gender activists are even worse with their labelling same actor as icon of feminism in one film and as epitome of regression in another. These days MRA trolls joined the fray to label films like Thappad 'anti men'. 🤣

Can our films be left alone and our artistes just be?

Can political editors stop trying to act as film critics?

I think we have right to show rioters, invaders, battles, criminals or even fictional stories as we want. Without columnists attacking filmmakers, artistes and shaming audience for liking or watching a film.

I am not an Islamophobe or promoting Sati/Jauhar if I liked Padmavat. I am not casteist for liking Bahubali. I am not anti Hindu for liking PK, OMG. I am not anti India if I liked Haider and Maachis. I am not a war monger if I liked Border. I watched or liked films for different reasons. Hope trolls and wannabe columnists realise and STFU.

These days you cannot even post an opinion without some activist of some wing trolling you for your choices.

Leave our entertainment ALONE.

PS - Funny thing is that SSR was accused of promoting love jihad through playing Muslim characters in PK and Kedarnath. 🤣

Apparently a guy cannot do roles without being accused of an agenda.

Akshay is promoting conversions in Mission Mangal but is Islamophobe for Sooryavanshi.

Actors have agenda or bloody commentators and online columnists?

I agree completely (I think Border is good and so are movies like Haider) but again like I said the right is the bigger problem because they have more power now and are in the way of creative movies, instead they just want cheap propaganda. I have seen bhakts call RDB communist propaganda basically and yeah that's another movie that would never be made now.

Putting both groups on the same level is silly because only one of them controls the narrative and has the media on their site and a powerful IT cell

The international columns or editorials in leading dailies like Hindustan Times, TOI show who controls narrative.

Rants calling films anti Hindu are limited to social media or RW sites like OpIndia while rants calling films Islamphobic and accusing Bollywood of being a hate factory, tool of grand conspiracy against one community, one country make it to WaPo.

So who has more control over narrative globally?

Equating them is fine IMO because both are involved in bans also. Congress banned all films and documentaries on 1984 and BJP attempts to censor films on 2002.

Bhopal gas leak tragedy based film starring Kay Kay only managed to release in 1999 under a BJP govt. Films like Firaaq, Mr and Mrs Iyer only managed to release under a UPA govt. So none of these parties are saints.

Indira govt hounded Kishore Kumar through ED for criticising Emergency and this one is hounding its critics by targeting their kids or using NCB.

There is no false equivalence at all when both govts with excessive power in respective eras have done same things.

It's certainly reaching to call films on Partition and medieval era invasions as Islamophobic just as it is a reach to call shows on social issues like Satyamev Jayate a 'ploy to defame India'.

BTW Jodha Akbar serial ran till 2015 and was top rated serial of its time, won many awards. So it is not like Jodha Akbar could not be shown on screen now. Online propaganda never dented fate of films and serials in real life.

The other side exerts enough pressure too. Rajinikanth dropped idea to enter politics taking support of right wing. He has taken issues of caste, attacks on interfaith couples in some of his recent films despite being a Modi admirer in real life. He knew Tamil Nadu has no space for RW ideology and he did not want to lose his popularity at this age, so he is careful about what he does now.

The other side is enough to exert pressure through WaPo, TIME, NYT, BBC and regional media or even their own films and shows. KBC almost always asks questions about opposition and critics of govt. Not pro govt schemes, which is why Amitabh gets trolled. But Siddhartha Basu does what he wants to. 🤣

I am personally fed up with our films, shows, web series nitpicked so much and accused of grand conspiracies.

I laughed when I saw an article on The Atlantic blaming Amar Chitra Katha comics for radicalising generation of kids ans promoting Hindu nationalism. 🤣

Nope. The comics are nothing of that sort and feature rulers, warriors, freedom fighters of all castes, genders and religions. Never promote hate. I want my entertainment to be left alone especially when it is not problematic at all.

Originally posted by: atominis

The international columns or editorials in leading dailies like Hindustan Times, TOI show who controls narrative.

Rants calling films anti Hindu are limited to social media or RW sites like OpIndia while rants calling films Islamphobic and accusing Bollywood of being a hate factory, tool of grand conspiracy against one community, one country make it to WaPo.

So who has more control over narrative globally?

Equating them is fine IMO because both are involved in bans also. Congress banned all films and documentaries on 1984 and BJP attempts to censor films on 2002.

Bhopal gas leak tragedy based film starring Kay Kay only managed to release in 1999 under a BJP govt. Films like Firaaq, Mr and Mrs Iyer only managed to release under a UPA govt. So none of these parties are saints.

Indira govt hounded Kishore Kumar through ED for criticising Emergency and this one is hounding its critics by targeting their kids or using NCB.

There is no false equivalence at all when both govts with excessive power in respective eras have done same things.

It's certainly reaching to call films on Partition and medieval era invasions as Islamophobic just as it is a reach to call shows on social issues like Satyamev Jayate a 'ploy to defame India'.

BTW Jodha Akbar serial ran till 2015 and was top rated serial of its time, won many awards. So it is not like Jodha Akbar could not be shown on screen now. Online propaganda never dented fate of films and serials in real life.

The other side exerts enough pressure too. Rajinikanth dropped idea to enter politics taking support of right wing. He has taken issues of caste, attacks on interfaith couples in some of his recent films despite being a Modi admirer in real life. He knew Tamil Nadu has no space for RW ideology and he did not want to lose his popularity at this age, so he is careful about what he does now.

The other side is enough to exert pressure through WaPo, TIME, NYT, BBC and regional media or even their own films and shows. KBC almost always asks questions about opposition and critics of govt. Not pro govt schemes, which is why Amitabh gets trolled. But Siddhartha Basu does what he wants to. 🤣

I am personally fed up with our films, shows, web series nitpicked so much and accused of grand conspiracies.

I laughed when I saw an article on The Atlantic blaming Amar Chitra Katha comics for radicalising generation of kids ans promoting Hindu nationalism. 🤣

Nope. The comics are nothing of that sort and feature rulers, warriors, freedom fighters of all castes, genders and religions. Never promote hate. I want my entertainment to be left alone especially when it is not problematic at all.

Who cares about WaPo in India? Globally they matter more but Indians don't really care about that. The actual media in India is 100% pro BJP and they have a huge IT cell on social media where they spread hate too.

I think putting the left & right propaganda on the same level of problematic is wrong, especially in the last few years one has the clear upper hand and is also the one who often calls for real violence (even genocide).

Also I don't expect Muslims to be portrayed as the "good" guys in historical movies but portrayed them as complete cartoon villians while Hindus are always some sort of perfect saints is also wrong and not a very nuanced and realistic approach. Add to that movies like Sooryavanshi and suddenly most Muslim characters in the past few years are evil which only leads to more division.

Compare that with the 2000s. We had movies like Gadar, Lakshya, Veer Zaara, Jodha Akbar etc. which were more balanced. I think there has been a clear shift in the last 5-6 years

Originally posted by: atominis

Hain?DDLJ is anti Hindu? LMFAO! I guess people have TOO much time at their hands now and cheaper internet made it worse.

I have seen articles claiming Deewar is 'Islamic conversion propaganda' because Amitabh wears Billa no. 786 in it whose value is explained by Rahim chacha and he remains alive as long as he wears that arm band. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And that Deewar is anti Hindu because Amitabh becomes atheist after death of his dad and humiliation he got as a kid. That 'aaj khush toh bahut hoge na tum' scene is actually pro religion and shows a man finally crumbling in helplessness begging God to save his mom. Yet it was labeled anti Hindu.

Apparently Amitabh, Salim-Javed are their new whipping boys for some characters like Hera Pheri and Naastik, in which Amitabh is bitter and borderline atheist, questions God until his faith is restored in end.

I mean how much time these bloggers have?

I hate all wings now. Literally. Left or right or whatever.

I thought Anna Vetticad probably stretched it too far to call Bahubali scene as 'rape'. I did not like the stripping of Avantika by Shivudu but it is not rape. Rape was a very loaded word to use.

Sagarika Ghose had written a cheap editorial claiming RDB promotes violence and incites youth to kill elected representatives. Huh? Nowhere does film encourage youth to kill ministers. Rather asks them to be part of system through IAS, IPS, politics, armed forces etc. So many years since 2006, I want to know how many youth killed a minister after watching that film?

I am TIRED of every ad, book, film, song, social media post shred apart in name of ideology.

I am not surprised SRK, late Rishi Kapoor and few other actors had openly criticised being asked to comment on X,Y,Z issue or linked to religion.

I am amused how Rajamouli was called casteist, accused of promoting casteism in Bahubali series. I mean, what is a film set in ancient era supposed to show? They will mention the princess is a Kshatriya. You cannot erase the past.

I hated reviews of Panipat, Padmavat, Bajirao Mastani, Atrangi Re, PK, OMG, web series like Pataal Lok, Leila, Ghoul accusing them of being anti X community or Y caste.

Or the pre release whining about Kalank 'promoting love jihad'.

It is insane how Akshay becomes anti Hindu or anti Muslim depending on which film he does. Or Rohit Shetty gets branded anti Hindu for Singham 2 but anti Muslim for Sooryavanshi.

Aamir was anti Hindu for PK but 'anti Pakistan' for Sarfarosh and suddenly became nationalist if he did Dangal?

SRK is Islamist if he does MNIK but is accused of promoting 'Hindu practices like Karva Chauth' when he does DDLJ, K3G?

Saif is anti Sikh because his character throws his kara in Sacred Games? Huh? Can maker not even tell a damn story or show a frustrated character?

The gender activists are even worse with their labelling same actor as icon of feminism in one film and as epitome of regression in another. These days MRA trolls joined the fray to label films like Thappad 'anti men'. 🤣

Can our films be left alone and our artistes just be?

Can political editors stop trying to act as film critics?

I think we have right to show rioters, invaders, battles, criminals or even fictional stories as we want. Without columnists attacking filmmakers, artistes and shaming audience for liking or watching a film.

I am not an Islamophobe or promoting Sati/Jauhar if I liked Padmavat. I am not casteist for liking Bahubali. I am not anti Hindu for liking PK, OMG. I am not anti India if I liked Haider and Maachis. I am not a war monger if I liked Border. I watched or liked films for different reasons. Hope trolls and wannabe columnists realise and STFU.

These days you cannot even post an opinion without some activist of some wing trolling you for your choices.

Leave our entertainment ALONE.

PS - Funny thing is that SSR was accused of promoting love jihad through playing Muslim characters in PK and Kedarnath. 🤣

Apparently a guy cannot do roles without being accused of an agenda.

Akshay is promoting conversions in Mission Mangal but is Islamophobe for Sooryavanshi.

Actors have agenda or bloody commentators and online columnists?

Agree with all this so much! 👏

I have to say that you're probably the only one I've seen on this forum who's legitimately unbiased/balanced when it comes to politics- because a lot claim to be but clearly do have a side, (which is fine), but I feel this is still commendable.

Though I want to add that certain producers, actors, script writers, etc. probably love this relatively new trend of mediocre or sometimes straight up rubbish pieces of media being hyped by followers of some or other political ideology (because that particular media or people involved with creating it are seen as subscribing to said ideology), when it would have received minimal attention otherwise.

On the other hand, I feel film makers probably think twice before making anything regarding serious/controversial issues that is even close to truly balanced now, as what would have once made all sides happy (at least among the general public, not counting people like Sagarika, etc), will now end up offending all sides for showing the other's point of view, because anything short of 100% one sided is anti this or anti that .

If we don't like something, we always have the choice not to watch it. The only sensible reason for going up and down imo is if something is based around true events and includes factually incorrect things, or if it is actually directly derogatory to any community (which Indian stuff in my experience rarely is).