TSBTSP - EPISODE DISCUSSION THREAD #1 - Page 83

Originally posted by: arivarshi

But Shreya could still help out when it comes to undermining Arjun and Naina. Agree nexus between Anurag and Shreya is highly unlikely but would be good to see. It could arise in an impromptu way and be situational.

I don't see a nexus happening btwn Anurag and Shreya.....Anurag cannot stand Shreya after what she did to Kajol and Anurag doesn't give a rats ass about Naina and Arjun, especially not after today. alive or dead, it won't matter to Anurag.

By the way did Arjun really say that he loves Naina ??? Like seriously or did my ears not function properly after all the fishmarket shouting of Naina 🤣🤣

Shreya's face was worth watching

Originally posted by: arivarshi

Another thing that I missed was that Arjun asked Anurag, I am toh marrying Naina but what will you call your relationship with Kajol friendship, more than friendship or less than love. Indications are wedding soon to happen.

Yup.....indications tht a wedding might happen, becoz now Kajols reputation is at stake.

And I don't think that Anurag will tolerate any more nonsense about Kajols character....lets see how he deals with his old hag of a grandmother in this regard

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

So going by Ishita’s story, I don’t know about a wedding but since she was in the NGO I think she’s going to do the whole natak where she sees herself as an orphan (relax K you’re a grown up working woman) and will stay at the NGO?

I don't think Kajol will do natak, she is basically an orphan now.

Father dead, mother declared her dead. Technically Kajol has been an orphan since Bishu died, becoz Chondana has never been a mother to her after that.

Actually the reason I said it’s natak is because- orphan is a word used for a child who has lost their parents, not for a grown up person. But our society has a long history of infantilising women- that is, a woman who is alone, single etc is seen as something strange.
They can just be normal about it and show Kajol renting out some space (I hope she does this soon) rather than infantilise her as a person in need of protection like the one given to a child. She’s completely capable of running an entirely toxic nuts family, so taking care of her own self should be a cakewalk for someone like her. That’s why I felt like such a scenario where she goes and lives in an orphanage is naatak. Had a male character been disowned by his family, they wouldn’t show him going and living in an orphanage- why infantilise women?

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

Actually the reason I said it’s natak is because- orphan is a word used for a child who has lost their parents, not for a grown up person. But our society has a long history of infantilising women- that is, a woman who is alone, single etc is seen as something strange.
They can just be normal about it and show Kajol renting out some space (I hope she does this soon) rather than infantilise her as a person in need of protection like the one given to a child. She’s completely capable of running an entirely toxic nuts family, so taking care of her own self should be a cakewalk for someone like her. That’s why I felt like such a scenario where she goes and lives in an orphanage is naatak. Had a male character been disowned by his family, they wouldn’t show him going and living in an orphanage- why infantilise women?

These are all speculations of course 😅

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

Actually the reason I said it’s natak is because- orphan is a word used for a child who has lost their parents, not for a grown up person. But our society has a long history of infantilising women- that is, a woman who is alone, single etc is seen as something strange.
They can just be normal about it and show Kajol renting out some space (I hope she does this soon) rather than infantilise her as a person in need of protection like the one given to a child. She’s completely capable of running an entirely toxic nuts family, so taking care of her own self should be a cakewalk for someone like her. That’s why I felt like such a scenario where she goes and lives in an orphanage is naatak. Had a male character been disowned by his family, they wouldn’t show him going and living in an orphanage- why infantilise women?

There is something I really don't get when it comes to ITV. Most so called creatives or lets say alot of them are women themselves. How in heavens name do they come up with so much humiliation for women in their stories ??? Its just beyond me really.

Instead of showing that women can be strong, independent individuals who can take care of their own lives, they always show them as becharis, abla naaris, doormats and what not 😡😡

I mean being a woman themselves, don't they want women empowerment ??

Or does women empowerment only mean having a man by their sides in their dictionary.....

The way women are getting insulted mentally and physically in Indian Shows is really absurd

Originally posted by: quickspicysauce

Actually the reason I said it’s natak is because- orphan is a word used for a child who has lost their parents, not for a grown up person. But our society has a long history of infantilising women- that is, a woman who is alone, single etc is seen as something strange.
They can just be normal about it and show Kajol renting out some space (I hope she does this soon) rather than infantilise her as a person in need of protection like the one given to a child. She’s completely capable of running an entirely toxic nuts family, so taking care of her own self should be a cakewalk for someone like her. That’s why I felt like such a scenario where she goes and lives in an orphanage is naatak. Had a male character been disowned by his family, they wouldn’t show him going and living in an orphanage- why infantilise women?

Very true, there is a trend if the heroine is thrown out of the house she ends up being dependent on the hero or the hero marries her and saves her. Her credentials as an independent well educated woman are always secondary to her as a sanskaari naari who is supposed to be homemaker.

But if Kajol is thrown out of the house and she ends up staying and working at the orphanage it would be I feel like a transitional period before she really goes all out to establish her identity as a successful working woman. That again is my best scenario forward. Rather than staying at Anurag's home or a halfway home road or shelter.

Originally posted by: eshasrk

There is something I really don't get when it comes to ITV. Most so called creatives or lets say alot of them are women themselves. How in heavens name do they come up with so much humiliation for women in their stories ??? Its just beyond me really.

Instead of showing that women can be strong, independent individuals who can take care of their own lives, they always show them as becharis, abla naaris, doormats and what not 😡😡

I mean being a woman themselves, don't they want women empowerment ??

Or does women empowerment only mean having a man by their sides in their dictionary.....

The way women are getting insulted mentally and physically in Indian Shows is really absurd

I agree completely that women writing for women depict women getting humiliated. But the bitter truth is that here art imitates reality to a certain extent as many women face such challenges within and outside the family sphere. A working woman is fine if she is married and also manages the home, pops out kids and takes care of them and the husband. Otherwise she is a failure as a woman and if she is competitive in the work environment then she is termed a b**** or something worse. But shows like these should show acceptance and progressiveness whereas they just show the same to hing and somehow enforce the same mindset.

Originally posted by: eshasrk

I don't think Kajol will do natak, she is basically an orphan now.

Father dead, mother declared her dead. Technically Kajol has been an orphan since Bishu died, becoz Chondana has never been a mother to her after that.

Poor Kajol Just Reading The Conservatives Here Made Me Glad Iam Not Watching The Show.

I Want Kajol's Mother To Suffer She's Pure Evil.

Originally posted by: eshasrk

What an episode.........good heaven 😲

What we expected happened.......this Pishimaa proved to be totally worthless today. And from now on I am done with one family already: the toxic Mukherjees 🤬🤬

Chondana and Noyna............jeezzzz

If this is not an eye opener for Kajol, I really don't know what will. Whatever happened to Kajol today is totally unacceptable.

Chondana should do one upkaar more to us as viewers : kick Kajol out and take the business away from her.

After today, I want to see the Mukherjees suffer like hell and land on the street , either by Arjun OR the creditors.

I just cannot wait to see Naina and Chondana suffer and suffer. Hopefully Kajol will not help them out this time, becoz technically she is no one to them anymore

And Bishu's GHOST better not turn up this time to tell Kajol another shit story 😡😡. Maybe Bishu's ghost should visit his useless wife from time to time to tell her what a piece of shit she is......she already keeps looking at his picture every time.

My gosh Anurag.........he was on fire today and the slap : uff the best thing in todays episode.

Hopefully now Kajol will be free from these useless people from her family, so she can at least be in peace for once

By the way Priyanka's face was worth watching when Anurag hit Arjun 😆 and if she can still not get the hint, then she is a bigger idiot than I thought

EDITED : oh wait correction !!! Pishi did say that she gave permission, but this stupid woman Chondana doesn't believe her 😲😲..... is she for real or does she need to visit a mental asylum 🤪🤪

When Kajol told her she got permission, she told Kajol she is lying becoz Pishi is not there. Now that Pishi told her herself, she doesn't believe. Gosh when will this Chondana join Bishu finally.....I am sick & tired of her shit already

I Want To Slap The Writers For Writing Such Negative Things Happening To Kajol.

Enough Now She Really Should Leave Her Selfish Family. The NGO Is Better Place For Her.