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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: desigal90

Has anyone ever taken a Paracetamol or Tylenol? Just FYI. Maybe you should refrain from this as well.


Adverse Reactions

The following adverse drug reactions and incidences are derived from product labeling unless otherwise specified.


Oral, Rectal: Frequency not defined:

Dermatologic: Erythema of skin, skin blister, skin rash

Otic: Hearing loss

IV:

>10%: Gastrointestinal: Nausea (adults: 34%; neonates, infants, children, and adolescents: ≥5%), vomiting (adults: 15%; neonates, infants, children, and adolescents: ≥5%)

1% to 10%:

Cardiovascular: Hypertension, hypotension, peripheral edema (adults)

Dermatologic: Pruritus (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents: ≥5%)

Endocrine & metabolic: Hypoalbuminemia (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), hypokalemia, hypomagnesemia (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), hypophosphatemia (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents)

Gastrointestinal: Constipation (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents: ≥5%), diarrhea (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents)

Genitourinary: Oliguria (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents)

Hematologic & oncologic: Anemia

Hepatic: Increased serum aspartate aminotransferase (Watkins 2006)

Local: Infusion-site pain, pain at injection site

Nervous system: Agitation (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), anxiety (adults), fatigue (adults), headache, insomnia (adults: 7%), trismus (adults)

Neuromuscular & skeletal: Muscle spasm (≥1%)

Respiratory: Abnormal breath sounds (adults), atelectasis (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), dyspnea (adults), pleural effusion (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), pulmonary edema (neonates, infants, children, and adolescents), stridor (adults), wheezing (adults)

Postmarketing (all formulations):

Dermatologic: Acute generalized exanthematous pustulosis (FDA 2016), Stevens-Johnson syndrome (FDA 2016), toxic epidermal necrolysis (Watanabe 2016; FDA 2016)

Hepatic: Acute hepatic failure, hepatotoxicity (Ramachandran 2019, Yoon 2016), increased serum alanine aminotransferase (Watkins 2006)

Hypersensitivity: Anaphylaxis (Ho 2008, Numata 2016), hypersensitivity reaction (Thomspon 2019)


Nice try comparing a drug whose side effects are known to everyone before taking it vs vaccines which said there wouldn’t be the side effects we are seeing now and we’re safe to take. Your whole argument is invalid!

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: The_Best


You didn’t read properly or what? I said I know someone in my relative who died after getting covid vaccine. How did you dismiss that? And yes I will take a chance with covid. My body, my choice! I have been interacting with covid positive patients for almost 2 years now in close contact and I am fine. Thanks for your concern!

My cousin's husband passed away this June from a lung clot. A month and half prior, he got vaccine. My cousin is convinced the vaccine did this. But hold on. He actually has a history of lung clots. Was on blood thinners in the past that were stopped. But my cousin will tell people he took the vaccine and it killed him.

Correlation does not mean causation. People die due to numerous causes. As more of the population gets vaccinated, many will be vaccinated prior to these events. It doesn't mean vaccine caused them.


To Hakuna Marata, I'm sorry to hear about your father. Stroke risk and clotting problems HAS been associated with J&J and some of the vaccine so that's very possible due to vaccine. It's unfortunate and I hope your dad is doing better now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Plus people can sue for drugs like Tylenols while with vaccines people are not able to.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: desigal90

My cousin's husband passed away this June from a lung clot. A month and half prior, he got vaccine. My cousin is convinced the vaccine did this. But hold on. He actually has a history of lung clots. Was on blood thinners in the past that were stopped. But my cousin will tell people he took the vaccine and it killed him.

Correlation does not mean causation. People die due to numerous causes. As more of the population gets vaccinated, many will be vaccinated prior to these events. It doesn't mean vaccine caused them.


To Hakuna Marata, I'm sorry to hear about your father. Stroke risk and clotting problems HAS been associated with J&J and some of the vaccine so that's very possible due to vaccine. It's unfortunate and I hope your dad is doing better now.


There are stories of healthy adults getting strokes and passing away. And you yourself admit that they are associated with strokes and clotting problems which can cause death so vaccines do in fact cause death in some individuals just like covid would. So How are again vaccines better when vaccines also have a risk of death? Also why are people not able to sue vaccine companies?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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There are stories of healthy adults getting strokes and passing away. And you yourself admit that they are associated with strokes and clotting problems which can cause death so vaccines do in fact cause death in some individuals just like covid would. So How are again vaccines better when vaccines also have a risk of death? Also why are people not able to sue vaccine companies?

Simple. Compare the INCIDENCE of vaccine death with virus deaths. You'll have your answer.

And I don't know where you keep getting this information that vaccine companies are exempt from suing while medication companies are not. Pfizer makes both medications and vaccines.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: desigal90

Simple. Compare the INCIDENCE of vaccine death with virus deaths. You'll have your answer.

And I don't know where you keep getting this information that vaccine companies are exempt from suing while medication companies are not. Pfizer makes both medications and vaccines.


I know Pfizer makes both. But one can sue for medications but not when it comes to vaccines related problem.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I believe in vaccines that prevents disease and go on to extend that belief in vaccines that generates immunologic prophylaxis.

But not in so called vaccines which aren't properly tested for their short and long term side effects, where companies who made those vaccines cannot be held accountable for their wrongdoings and vaccines only stimulate short term immune response but will in return give adverse effects including death.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Also, for you to say your cousin passed away but he had a history of this and that problem. Well, same with covid deaths. Almost all had history of obesity, heart, etc problems which covid just made it worse. So up until now covid and vaccines risks are about the same except vaccines are bit worse. We already know what to expect of covid compared to the vaccines whose new side effects are everyday being discovered.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: desigal90

I'm curious to know what the source is regarding it taking 10 years to make a vaccine. It can take "UP" to 10 years but by no means is that the minimum. The duration spectrum is between 1-10 years. Of course these vaccines underwent an accelerated process because of the impact and mortality rate of Covid-19 infection. How much longer were we supposed to sit by and let people die?


Why is it ok for meds to become available in this amount of time but not vaccines? Vaccines are hardly "new" technology. How long ago was polio vaccine made? Why do people think it will take us a decade to make a vaccine? I mean molecular sciences and genetics have evolved exponentially over the past few years; we can generically select out diseased embryos, thereby selecting out genetic defects, during IVF. We have the entire human genome down. But somehow we are supposed to struggle with making a vaccine? We churn out new medications for Diabetes, Coronary Artery Disease, Pain Management, Migraines, hell, apparently "Covid medicine" that people trust in a short amount of time. But not possible with vaccine?


Pfizer is fully FDA approved. It's no longer just a emergency approval.

I read the original Pfizer study when it first came out. It was a double blind controlled trial, it's on NEJM. 33K test subjects. Pretty large N value, good statistical signifiance. Id be curious to know what they fudged or didn't fudge.



Vaccine development takes up from 10 to 15 years as they have to research, have approvals, do testings.


What does the FDA approval means when a whistleblower recently admitted that the Pfizer vaccined tests hadn't been done correctly?


Moderna was FDA approved and they are only know saying that it's unsafe for young men.


A medecine would be different as it would cure the illness instead of prevented people from getting it. That's were the difference lies imo.


- A colleague of mine who's sister in scientist refuses to take the vaccine (all of her sibling are vaccinated) even if it means that she won't get to get out.


- The mother of another of my friends refuses to get it and she works in a lab.


- My mother's doctor has preferred to close his office instead of getting the vaccine.


And there are numerous other hospital and lab staff members who won't get it.

They saw the side effects of the vaccine on people and also saw that people who got it still got hospitalized.



Also this summer, in ISRAEL -which is one of the country that launched the vaccine campaign- the vaccinated people represented almost half of the people who got infected by COVID.

They say it's normal but if so why are they prepping the population for the 4th vaccine dose ? The 4th!!!

I personally don't want to play with my body and get 100s of injections because they are not sure what they are doing.

20 years down the line they'll admit they did a huge mistake and it'll be too late. It wouldn't be the first time they admitted their mistakes late.


Now the narrative is that people who don't get the vaccine are selfish, that they don't deserve to be treated etc. But are people even human ? Since when has it not been mandatory for others to dispose of another people's body ?

If the governments were certain the vaccine was safe, they WOULD have made the vaccine mandatory. Instead they came up with the sanitary pass (which had been mentioned in the much bashed Hold-Up documentary...) so that they won't be held responsible if anything goes wrong with a person who "voluntarily" took up the vaccine.


I personally made an effort in taking 2 doses of the vaccine and I say no more. My patience can only go there.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_Best


I know Pfizer makes both. But one can sue for medications but not when it comes to vaccines related problem.

I'm unaware of this. Link me to the source of this information. You're misunderstanding that when you tell someone risk of adverse effects they cannot sue. The same goes for medications. If the medication side effects are listed clearly, and the doctor reads them out, you can't sue medications either. Or a side effect unlisted.

This is true for NEW medications. There is a new class of Diabetes medications called SGLT-2 inhibitor. AFTER being prescribed it was discovered that they can cause a rare side effect; one of them is associated with amputations. Which wasn't listed initially. NOW it's listed as a very rare warning. I mean this is how medicine works. Not everything is known right away. But gets discovered over time, and those adverse effects are rare. Thats vaccines and meds. That's why with tylenol there was a section labeled "post marketing side effects". The most benign medications, vaccines, procedure can cause death and infections and bleeding. That's just medicine in general but nobody overthinks when it comes to

Meds.

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