Pandya Store|Episode Discussion #122|Dhakka - The Saviour - Page 63

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Raavi is enabling his stupid behaviour. That's why my first question was where the heck is her self-respect? She is standing around getting insulted. Arey khudd ki respect nahi karoge to koi aur khaakh karega.

Exactly writers don't give her dialogues.

I think even after being present almost the whole time she gets the least dialgoues.

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Uska relationship with Shiva per ek dialogue per month ke basis per chal rahe hain makers.

Woh bhi woh bhul jaate hain ki last month kya likha tha Raavi ke liye.

Originally posted by: spdp

this whole thing/idea that Disu- 'the foil'- is the 'unconditional lover' (stalker, oggler, abuser, shameless leach )

is needed to character like Shiva to realize, get his love - in itself makes Shiva's character look so spineless.

If Dishoom was such a nice girl, she would have refused to dooray dalna on a married man and said let him divorce first, I will court him afterward! Idhar toh ulta chal raha hai! 🤣

Shiva is actually cheating on Raavi...this jealousy track doesn't show love, just insecurity, abuse and disrespect, and indecency in matrimony! 🤢

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Raavi is enabling his stupid behaviour. That's why my first question was where the heck is her self-respect? She is standing around getting insulted. Arey khudd ki respect nahi karoge to koi aur khaakh karega.

raavi is willing to end this marriage she has given up but coz she is attached to this godforsaken family she stays there for dhara lol so just cos she is there they think she should be the one calling off the divorce and professing her love when all this started coz shivas little ego was bruised by ppl commenting on his own lifestyle choices.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Raavi is enabling his stupid behaviour. That's why my first question was where the heck is her self-respect? She is standing around getting insulted. Arey khudd ki respect nahi karoge to koi aur khaakh karega.

The writers have buried her self respect, self worth, self esteem and all she is now a glorified maid in Pandya Niwas who still wants to keep in touch with the family members even after divorce and try to strike a friendship with Shiva with divorce.

Who writes such ghatiya dialogues and character sketch for her?😡

Originally posted by: mpks1

I have been talking about this repetitive part and me being annoyed in this very EDT for the past week. I atleast make a post on it every single day that I am ready to let go off their scenes and watch even GauRa and DevTa scenes, Such is my irritation level.

Shiva doesn't want to take the first step even though he filed for divorce because of his ego. I didn't say this KD himself said this in the interviews and that is the narration he has got from the director and the writers.

It's true. His male ego was hurt so he took such a big step. Follow it through or own it that you effed up.

ITV sab kuch dikhata hai except communication between couples. It's stupid. Like Dhara being suspicious towards Gombi. Like seriously. That entire family is full of bekaar log, only dialogue baazi but no real substance.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Raavi is enabling his stupid behaviour. That's why my first question was where the heck is her self-respect? She is standing around getting insulted. Arey khudd ki respect nahi karoge to koi aur khaakh karega.

But how is ravi enabling his stupid behaviour..

Originally posted by: deeps07

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Didn't shiva have insecurity or something.. 🤔 Ab tho ravi bhi hein ..they should join a club or something.. whole pandyas can join..

Shiva ka insecurity gayab ho gaya, abb Disha hain na uske saat acchi baatein karne ke liye😕 Kapde ke ssat saat Shiva ka sab kuch badal ke raka hain writers ne like attitude, behavior, his ability to distinguish right or wrong, his way of standing up for what he believes in. Everything is gone.

Originally posted by: mpks1

The writers have buried her self respect, self worth, self esteem and all she is now a glorified maid in Pandya Niwas who still wants to keep in touch with the family members even after divorce and try to strike a friendship with Shiva with divorce.

Who writes such ghatiya dialogues and character sketch for her?😡

Frankly speaking, I felt that Raavi as a character never had any self-respect. It's just being highlighted in the worst possible way.

For a while there she did speak up but than keeps mum. It's her life, take charge of it.

Originally posted by: HanaKB

This is one of the reasons I started hating ShiVi! ☢️ They are showing a perpetual cycle of abuse and selling it in the name of love "cause O-M-G ShiVi are so cuteeeeeeee!" 🤢 Imagine a modern-day girl actually acting like Raavi? Shiva? I would lose my mind! 🤢

U r soo on point.

I talked about how they r showing Shivi ka relationship.

Bcoz in reality it is toxic and Raavi is facing domestic violence.

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Many women doesn't even realise that how much wrong is happening to them.

I have said this earlier too Anu (No.1show) wasn't literate and didn't went out much that's why she didn't knew how much wrong is happening to her.

But Raavi is aaj ki ladki woh is educated and knows what is wrong and right.

Her character has been the biggest disappointment.

That even after wrong is happening to her I can't sympathise bcoz she is ok with it. She doesn't have problem with it rather encouraging it.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

I do think that's the issue. Here is the thing, Shiva-Raavi never got along. Here friends added fuel to fire, rest Shiva ne karr diya. He is testing the water but Raavi isn't reacting the way he wants her to. Yes, she is jealous but she isn't saying that she doesn't want the divorce and loves him. Frankly, I think he is an idiot (lovable idiot). He needs to take charge and tell Raavi what he feels. Kya hoga zyada, either she will confess or it will all end.

I honestly think, Shiva is comparing what he had with Raavi (let's be honest, they didn't have anything). I saw the episode where Disha is telling Shiva that if ShiVi were together she would never come between them. That's actually true, a third person can't coming into a relationship unless the people in the relationship let them in. Shiva let her in and Raavi is okay with it (on the outside).

Both need to think what they want. Not only they are behaving like idiots but it's all getting repetitive and annoying. Either you want something or you don't. Don't dilly dally.

ShiVi ko chappal maar padhni chahiye.

Thanks Nami for saying this. I have been saying the same thing over and over again.

The ideal relationships don’t exist in the real world. It’s a lie we tell ourselves. Relationships, people are far more complicated than black and white.

Shiva did hit a rock-bottom spiral of self-pity and angst, and any form or validation in this vulnerable state makes him simply human. So, is Raavi. She doesn’t know what she wants to do!

Such complexity happens when you have different expectations from a relationship. It’s not Shiva vs Raavi for me. Both have hit a wrong chord now and can’t mend their relationship unless they want to.

I am eagerly waiting for their divorce to happen!!!
That shall bring a lot of Tadka to their stagnant, time-loop stuck relationship.

Also, adultery is a serious word that implies:

voluntary sexual activity (as sexual intercourse) between a married man and someone other than his wife or between a married woman and someone other than her husband also

So, technically they are married on papers which makes Shisha fall into the lap of emotional infidelity which is again a very tricky area for an already divorcing couple. People who go through divorce can tell better.


Emotional infidelity is an extremely grey area. Do I support infidelity-No

But, it does happen in real life and this narrative has a very delicate hint towards it. High levels of platonic emotional infidelity happens with a huge urban chunk of the population. Work spouses are becoming a reality.

In short, matters of the heart are sometimes complex than the laws of the land.

From strictly a narrative stand point, I like the storytelling not because I endorse the moral ambiguity but the moral ambiguity makes it an interesting piece of fiction.

I’d take the intricate journey of characters any day over monotonous husband-wife talks or countless eyelocks.

I like the conflict of Shivi a lot!
They both have a parallel imaginary relationship with each other which is far from reality.

Their conflict isn’t confined to typical love-hate. It’s beyond and better. If this conflict ceases to exist, there won’t be any tale left to tell.

Their relationship reminds me of Pip-Estella from Great Expectations, Hades-Persephone or even Noor-Firdaus from Fitoor.
There’s a certain sense of poetic expression in their relationship. Despite being married, they can’t be labelled.

Shiva doesn’t want that while Raavi wants To playhouse!!!
They wanted different things from each other. This conflict makes their story interesting including Disha.
Disha is just a plot point to drive home the point of contention between Shivi.
It’s unpopular but another viewpoint. Morally ambiguous tales in fiction are interesting to watch!