*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 18*~* Ghar More Pardesiya - Page 101

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Yes you can have your opinions no one stopped you from that. We all over here have a different opinion which you can agree to disagree with and be respectful towards.

Just because we understand and support Raghav doesnt mean this is about only Raghav. This is about Raghvi and we all love both of them, this isn't mutually exclusive situation.

This is my last response to you because we won't be seeing eye to eye on this topic. This is the most peaceful place on the forum according to us and we'd like to keep it that way. You can carry on posting here as per AT rules, I'd be out of the way.

PS: When in Pallavi AT, Pallavi could not be criticized, here Raghav can't be, that's the rule. I hope you'll will follow the rules. This is an appreciation thread.

I am glad we can have a safe ground for having our opinions here. It's fine to not see eye to eye on a topic.

@bold: but isn't this a RaghVi AT? I think both Raghav and Pallavi shouldn't be critized here. If we can't critize Pallavi in Pallavi AT then shouldn't this rule be applied for Raghav AT rather than RaghVi AT. Sorry i am just confused what AT this is!?

Originally posted by: -abz-

Hai aisi koi kahani "mamle ko secret banani"

Phir sorry sorry kehlaani...

Akhir (ex?) gf dayaan ban jaye ...

Aur hum ho jaye oxygen ke sang .... 🎵 🎶

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Yes you can have your opinions no one stopped you from that. We all over here have a different opinion which you can agree to disagree with and be respectful towards.

Just because we understand and support Raghav doesnt mean this is about only Raghav. This is about Raghvi and we all love both of them, this isn't mutually exclusive situation.

This is my last response to you because we won't be seeing eye to eye on this topic. This is the most peaceful place on the forum according to us and we'd like to keep it that way. You can carry on posting here as per AT rules, I'd be out of the way.

PS: When in Pallavi AT, Pallavi could not be criticized, here Raghav can't be, that's the rule. I hope you'll will follow the rules. This is an appreciation thread.

Ren sorry to butt in, When episode discussion happens in an AT, there are bound of be criticisms and it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Eveyone cannot see eye to eye in a epsiode discussion and we are allowed to have different opinions.

Exactly, Pallavi cannot be criticized in her AT and Raghav in his AT. RaghVi AT is for both Raghav and Pallavi right? Just clarify that.

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

Nobody condones his actions Sharda and i very well do understand but what i don't is how it's always his guilt that gets him through the worst of worse things.

It was his guilt and anger for his family when he defamed Pallavi and it's his guilt now too but there's a limit to everything. He can't go nuts over E at one moment and then care with deep eyelocks the other. That is not guilt, that's more of a multiple personality.

He did tell E to buzz off and i was grateful for it but we can't ignore that when E asked him for mera raghu aisa nhin krta and all he didn't flinch. When Sumit called him E ka bf he didn't retort back or when P asked E to back off cause it was an between her and her husband, he brigaded Pallavi for behaving that way. That's just double standards of guilt.

His guilt stems from his insecurities which he never dealt with properly. The insecurities cause him to react irrationally, at least more than the average, emotionally stable human being, so he messes up, a lot. That mess up is something he's aware of though --> so then his guilt gets triggered --> he can't live properly with the guilt nor can he process it properly --> does something irrational, drastic, or destructive, or just not the right thing, to fix it / make him forget / move on from what happened.

I personally don't think he went nuts over E. But that's something everyone will have their own opinions on. The only fact we have to go off of is his dialogue from the show - where he stated and restated multiple times that he only loves Pallavi.

His fear of losing Pallavi, his guilt of what he did to her knowing it will break her, is what causes him to go into survival mode of "let me put 100 billion bandages on this and I can ignore the cracks" . This is how he operates. He dwells less on the mistake and more on how to move on / rectify it.

While I don't like that he was angry with P as a consequence of his own guilt - it's not an uncommon reaction. People don't behave perfectly in every situation. He has destructive qualities and that's what came out. When we're stressed, we lash out. It's not right. I called out R multiple times about this, but that's just how he reacted. It was messed up, but now he's facing the consequences of his actions.

The positive is that his last convo with LWR is what has now got him thinking of how he actually reacts in tough situations and how destructive his behavior can be. So maybe now we'll see a real improvement.

The fault of MHRW writers is they show very little to no character progression or improvement. Neither R or P truly learned from their past mistakes/circumstances/life problems like a normal person would. Maybe this last track will get that going but up until now they have the same behavioral patterns as the beginning of the show. There may have been slight improvements here and there, but not really. That's why R is in this constant cycle of making mistakes and being guilty and P is in this constant cycle of thinking everyone is great and no one can do wrong until they actually do something drastically bad.

At the end of the day it's ITV - you know how this will end, lol.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Yes you can have your opinions no one stopped you from that. We all over here have a different opinion which you can agree to disagree with and be respectful towards.

Just because we understand and support Raghav doesnt mean this is about only Raghav. This is about Raghvi and we all love both of them, this isn't mutually exclusive situation.

This is my last response to you because we won't be seeing eye to eye on this topic. This is the most peaceful place on the forum according to us and we'd like to keep it that way. You can carry on posting here as per AT rules, I'd be out of the way.

PS: When in Pallavi AT, Pallavi could not be criticized, here Raghav can't be, that's the rule. I hope you'll will follow the rules. This is an appreciation thread.

I'm sorry that I'm butting in but the bold words seem disturbing.

@bold- This AT is Raghvi AT for a reason right? Had it been Raghav AT, this would have been applicable. How can criticism not be welcomed in Raghvi AT? Please clear my confusion.

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Ren sorry to butt in, When episode discussion happens in an AT, there are bound of be criticisms and it should be taken with a pinch of salt. Eveyone cannot see eye to eye in a epsiode discussion and we are allowed to have different opinions.

Exactly, Pallavi cannot be criticized in her AT and Raghav in his AT. RaghVi AT is for both Raghav and Pallavi right? Just clarify that.

The admin of this AT can answer your question.

Just because people support Raghav here doesnt mean we are not supporting Pallavi or are criticizing her. We all love her equally and feel her pain equally. If we were only supporting Raghav we would go to his AT. As you are aware all people who were raghvi fans , gracefully left Pallavi AT when we we couldn't talk about Raghav and wanted to.

Freedom of speech is everyone's right but you know kindness is too underrated on a virtual platform.

My last reply to you or your friends here. Diksha can take care of the rules, I'm sure.

Originally posted by: fria319

His guilt stems from his insecurities which he never dealt with properly. The insecurities cause him to react irrationally, at least more than the average, emotionally stable human being, so he messes up, a lot. That mess up is something he's aware of though --> so then his guilt gets triggered --> he can't live properly with the guilt nor can he process it properly --> does something irrational, drastic, or destructive, or just not the right thing, to fix it / make him forget / move on from what happened.

I personally don't think he went nuts over E. But that's something everyone will have their own opinions on. The only fact we have to go off of is his dialogue from the show - where he stated and restated multiple times that he only loves Pallavi.

His fear of losing Pallavi, his guilt of what he did to her knowing it will break her, is what causes him to go into survival mode of "let me put 100 billion bandages on this and I can ignore the cracks" . This is how he operates. He dwells less on the mistake and more on how to move on / rectify it.

While I don't like that he was angry with P as a consequence of his own guilt - it's not an uncommon reaction. People don't behave perfectly in every situation. He has destructive qualities and that's what came out. When we're stressed, we lash out. It's not right. I called out R multiple times about this, but that's just how he reacted. It was messed up, but now he's facing the consequences of his actions.

The positive is that his last convo with LWR is what has now got him thinking of how he actually reacts in tough situations and how destructive his behavior can be. So maybe now we'll see a real improvement.

The fault of MHRW writers is they show very little to no character progression or improvement. Neither R or P truly learned from their past mistakes/circumstances/life problems like a normal person would. Maybe this last track will get that going but up until now they have the same behavioral patterns as the beginning of the show. There may have been slight improvements here and there, but not really. That's why R is in this constant cycle of making mistakes and being guilty and P is in this constant cycle of thinking everyone is great and no one can do wrong until they actually do something drastically bad.

At the end of the day it's ITV - you know how this will end, lol.

@bold: this is what blows me off the most fria. RaghVi as a couple had such a great growth firstly because they had nothing against each other, the hate was their because of their families and nothing more. But what i am not liking or understanding is how the growth has been shown nil when we're almost at the finish line of the show.

The Raghav who cared so much about everyone can go this low all of a sudden

I'll quote P here " Mera ek nakhun bhi tedha toot jata tha toh mera Raghav poora ghar sar pe utha leta tha" , see exactly even she can't believe because that was RaghVi and thier love that had grown from a seed of chance and trust. But now the same Raghav was on and off on guilt. Sad one second but then blasting on her, taking out his guilt on her in a bad way the other.

It's itv i agree but itv works on couple love and growth tbh and they have nilled every aspect of it now.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

The admin of this AT can answer your question.

Just because people support Raghav here doesnt mean we are not supporting Pallavi or are criticizing her. We all love her equally and feel her pain equally. If we were only supporting Raghav we would go to his AT. As you are aware all people who were raghvi fans , gracefully left Pallavi AT when we we couldn't talk about Raghav and wanted to.

Freedom of speech is everyone's right but you know kindness is too underrated on a virtual platform.

My last reply to you or your friends here. Diksha can take care of the rules, I'm sure.

@bold again- In Pallavi AT, we were Pallavi fans. We had all the rights to appreciate Pallavi over Raghav even if it meant to stand against Raghav in the incidents where he cannot be appreciated. We gracefully left cause Pallavi's graceful married life was overbearing for us to tolerate.Thank you for letting us know.

Raghvi means - Raghav and Pallavi, I hope the fact does not change. Or are we in some other place?

@blue- Freedom of speech does not envision kindness. Fact is a fact. Fact cannot be categorised as criticism or compliment.

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

@bold: this is what blows me off the most fria. RaghVi as a couple had such a great growth firstly because they had nothing against each other, the hate was their because of their families and nothing more. But what i am not liking or understanding is how the growth has been shown nil when we're almost at the finish line of the show.

The Raghav who cared so much about everyone can go this low all of a sudden

I'll quote P here " Mera ek nakhun bhi tedha toot jata tha toh mera Raghav poora ghar sar pe utha leta tha" , see exactly even she can't believe because that was RaghVi and thier love that had grown from a seed of chance and trust. But now the same Raghav was on and off on guilt. Sad one second but then blasting on her, taking out his guilt on her in a bad way the other.

It's itv i agree but itv works on couple love and growth tbh and they have nilled every aspect of it now.

See this I think where a lot of people differ.

It just depends on how we read the character. I don't think his guilt was ever on or off. It was always on, but at times it was apparent and other times it was him ignoring it because that's what we do when we've put ourselves in bad situations.

His anger was unfairly unleashed at her, but that didn't take away any of the guilt that he felt about what happened with E. That's how I understood those scenes. When we react in anger, often times we are not fully comprehending what we're saying or how we're saying it. The anger takes over us and replies back. It doesn't make us any less at fault for what we said. But it also doesn't mean that's all we feel.

People lash out when they're overwhelmed and frustrated. This is a common reactionary response. It's not the right response - none of us would ever say it was right. But that's where it comes from. I wish he didn't ever respond in anger. I wish he had better self control over his reactions and emotions. But he doesn't. It take a lot of practice to reel that type of reaction/behavior in. He's never really worked on it. And that's just another problem with the writing - the lack of attention to the actual mental health issues both characters have and having them confront it.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

The admin of this AT can answer your question.

Just because people support Raghav here doesnt mean we are not supporting Pallavi or are criticizing her. We all love her equally and feel her pain equally. If we were only supporting Raghav we would go to his AT. As you are aware all people who were raghvi fans , gracefully left Pallavi AT when we we couldn't talk about Raghav and wanted to.

Freedom of speech is everyone's right but you know kindness is too underrated on a virtual platform.

My last reply to you or your friends here. Diksha can take care of the rules, I'm sure.

@b: Ikr. Sab log aajate hain moral policing karne. Kindness is underrated really. I wish people could be kind and really appreciate everyone's view. After all ek hi nazar se sab log dekh nahi sakthe na.

@i: Ren, that singular mention of me and my friends seems like bashing, be a darling and edit it will you 🤗