*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 17*~* Meri Duniyaa - Page 83

Originally posted by: rubys07

OMG FIIIIIIIISSHHHHHHH PALLAVI LOCKED ESHAAAAA IN TURN FISH FISH FISH🤣

MERI PALLAVI WAPAS AAGAYI MY TEEKHI MIRCHI MY QUEEEEEENNNN YAAASS

Okay lemme go back to the episode kbyeee

It. was. just.. beautiful.

The look on Sunny's face. WOW. It was worth it.

Me during that verbal shakedown:

Originally posted by: anut

There is a difference between Pallavi’s actions and Raghav’s here. Pallavi’s only history with Mandar was being married to him and in her mind she was clear about who her love and husband was. At no point of time did she lead Mandar on.

Raghav, on the other hand has had an ONS (at least in his mind) with his “so-called-soulmate”, has consistently given her the impression that he cares for her in more ways than a friend, has not come clean to his wife about his physical and emotional infidelity. He ought to know his ex and his wife better at this point, should he not be sensitive enough to understand that if Pallavi does not want Esha to be living under one roof with them, she might have a solid reason? Didn’t he harbor the exact same misgivings when Mandar was around Pallavi??

BTW, I love your posts and a lot of others who write some outstanding analysis and dissections of some flawed, conflicted characters and their actions. This is what I’ll miss the most when the show ends. It definitely broadens my perspective 😀

Yes with respect to Pallavi she never lead Mandar on but she did not stop him from crossing personal boundaries again and again. The way Pallavi was okay going off for a day with Mandar to Vikarabad without even informing Raghav and then running the moment Mandar did any drama - That was the way Mandar created insecurities in Raghav.

Raghav has consistently told Esha that he has only Pallavi in his life and he even said that on that night he did hallucinate Pallavi and she was nowhere in the picture for him. When Pallavi bought in Esha he was apprehensive but Esha played on her victim card perfectly - first by the drama in front of D house and then with the kidnapping stunt. Even today he says until I find a permanent solution to the Sumit problem it is better you stay here for safety. Yes Raghav did have his insecurities when Mandar was in picture here he is missing the big picture and that is going to bite him in his rear end. When Pallavi breaks down and moves away from RR Mansion then he will realize that he has hurt Pallavi by - hiding the truth of Esha in the first instance and then by allowing Esha to manipulate the situations that bad.

For me both the characters are flawed - Pallavi understood Mandar's intentions only when Aayi was hurt and then she realized what a monster this guy actually is. Raghav is going to understand his wrongs when Pallavi walks out. He will snap out of his complacent nature because there is no way he can survive being away from Pallavi.

Originally posted by: PSharada

Dang they had same to same dialogues as Mandar track. Waqt ne cheena tha Waqt hi lautayega and now Esha says Kismet laayi hain mujhe wapas Raghu ki Zindagi main.

This is Mandar 2.0 - out and out. But thank god, it was good seeing Pallavi kick Esha and Sunny's butt. Esha is now playing the victim card in front of Raghav just like Mandar played the sympathy drama in front of Pallavi.

I feel this whole week we will have this game of wits going on between Esha and Pallavi and maybe in frustration Esha will let the cat out of the bag that Raghav slept with her. That might cause Pallavi to move out of RR Mansion.

So one week would be Raghav running behind Pallavi and trying to manao her and asking for forgiveness and then maybe again RaghVi kya karte hain. Last 1 week it might be happy ending.

So looks like Sickand ko ex ka tadka karna hi tha - no matter what. So he is doing it here again. To tell the truth, he could have done Esha ka natak without the cringy ONS. Let's see what they show this week.

TBH, its kind of eerie how similar these two plots are LOL.

...Like wow, what creativity 🤪

I think your timeline/predictions are correct. R so blind AF LOL, he's not going to see anything. Even tomorrow's precap is not going to end with E leaving the house itself. So they're going to stretch the P v. E tadka until mid to late week and then E is going to let the cat out of the bag and we may end the week with P deciding to leave R.

There's a small (ok maybe large..) part of me that wants her to throw her mangalsutra at him after slapping him (which seems like is definitely going to happen)... like they can get married again & find each other again - no problem.. but in this moment in time I want her to be brutal and a bit cruel.

Originally posted by: anut

There is a difference between Pallavi’s actions and Raghav’s here. Pallavi’s only history with Mandar was being married to him and in her mind she was clear about who her love and husband was. At no point of time did she lead Mandar on.

Raghav, on the other hand has had an ONS (at least in his mind) with his “so-called-soulmate”, has consistently given her the impression that he cares for her in more ways than a friend, has not come clean to his wife about his physical and emotional infidelity. He ought to know his ex and his wife better at this point, should he not be sensitive enough to understand that if Pallavi does not want Esha to be living under one roof with them, she might have a solid reason? Didn’t he harbor the exact same misgivings when Mandar was around Pallavi??

BTW, I love your posts and a lot of others who write some outstanding analysis and dissections of some flawed, conflicted characters and their actions. This is what I’ll miss the most when the show ends. It definitely broadens my perspective 😀

So sweet of you🤗

Regarding him being sensitive, if you notice he's been against Esha being at RR mansion since day 1, it was Pallavi who brought E in because she thought E was desperately in need of saving from Sumit. Raghav does not know about Pallavi and Esha's conversation and that Pallavi now wants E out of the house. This is roughly the convo RaghVi have today:

R: Esha called me and told me everything that happened between you two.

P: Everything?

R: Yeah, she said that you two were having some misunderstandings because of everything that's happened over the last couple of days, and now all that MU is cleared up. But because she doesn't want this to happen again, she wants to leave the house. She's your good friend and doesn't want to lose you, I didn't let her leave.

Pallavi didn't get a chance to tell Raghav what she wanted or the actual conversation that took place between her and E, and he has no clue she want E out of the house now. The Warangal night and some of the EshGu scenes have definitely been cringe to watch but Raghav has not led Esha on in any of the recent scenes IMO, it's ALL Esha being delusional despite seeing his loyalty to his wife.

Originally posted by: fria319

Well I think the thing is - we can say every scene is to move the story forward. At the end of the day, dialogue of a character should be given weight. This is a tv show, 90% of the plot moves through dialogue.

So people are going to pick apart R's dialogue, as they did with P. I would/do while I'm watching the show because that's all I can rely on to give me insight into what the character is thinking atm.

R treating E as if he didn't "sleep" with her and therefore so casually saying "I told her to stay" is what looks bad. The optics are bad because when P finds everything out - all of this is going to hit her like a ton of bricks. All of this will come straight back to her. Doesn't matter if it's just for the plot or not - fact is they gave him that dialogue, they put him in that position / let him take that stance, all the while knowing what he "did" with her behind his wife's back.

(using "" here because we all know the circumstances in which they happened)

I said it before, I'll say it again, the way they're having R compartmentalize and essentially block his night with E is optically horrible. I understand why he's handling it this way, but it's not something thats justifiable. So people who are upset with his dealing with his issues, are IMO rightfully upset. He's just digging his hole bigger and bigger.

That is the whole issue na Fria - Raghav has compartmentalized that night. For him it was a big mistake, he knows that he will carry the guilt of it for till he lives or till the truth is out in some way or other. He is not understanding that hiding that thing will look as if he was willing partner in the ONS. He is going to learn that when Pallavi breaks down and walks away from RR Mansion.

Regarding his dialogue of - I asked her to stay, I think he is saying that w.r.t Esha being unsafe outside due to Sumit and his constant harassments including the kidnapping. I would say Pallavi should have called up Raghav before Esha did and should have told Raghav everything that happened till now. During Mandar track also, miscommunication between Raghav and Pallavi caused Mandar to take advantage and here too Esha is doing the same thing. She called up before Pallavi could broach this topic with Raghav and played her victim drama.

Originally posted by: rubys07

It's Mandar 2.0, no doubt but I have a harder time watching this track compared to that one for some reason. Could be because Esha actually had a past with Raghav and keeps dreaming of reuniting with Raghuuu like she still has any right over him or his life. And yeah, I think the truth might be out by next Monday/that weekend and then we'll have about a week of redemption. I want the redemption to be properly executed man--hopefully the flow wouldn't be as random as the last two episodes. ITV shows usually keep the happy ending wala part for the very last episode so we might get other things before that in that week.

Sharada, it's possible Sickand introduced the ONS thing for the TRPs because there's more tadka there. He needed to create some tension and the possibility of Pallavi leaving Raghav (temporarily). Without the ONS drama, there is literally nothing that can make Pallavi willingly leave Raghav. Sadly, even that didn't work for our ratings.

I have a hard time watching this track too. I've figured it out - for me - it's because of the way they're portraying R vs P in both tracks. Now I got very irritated with how blind P was to M's manipulations during M track but at least she was open and honest with R? She kept reassuring him, she tried to do her best in keeping him in the loop. She was blind but she wasn't deceitful.

With R, the issue is that he's openly lying to his wife now, while his ex is living in their home. That is a WHOLE other level of low. I'm not even focusing on the "cheating" part bc for all of us here, we acknowledge that he was assaulted. The issue is him keeping that part a secret - especially because he thinks he cheated. He doesn't consider what happened b/t him and E as assault from E. So if he doesn't think that - then it makes his lying to P even worse. My other issue is how despite all that happened between him & E, he seems to have blocked it out so much that he does not treat her with as much indifference as he should. He does not talk to her with shame, with worry that P will see him, with worry that P will figure it out. He gets that he's on borrowed time with P but does nothing to rectify the situation. It's hard to watch him dig himself into a ditch.

Originally posted by: fria319

TBH, its kind of eerie how similar these two plots are LOL.

...Like wow, what creativity 🤪

I think your timeline/predictions are correct. R so blind AF LOL, he's not going to see anything. Even tomorrow's precap is not going to end with E leaving the house itself. So they're going to stretch the P v. E tadka until mid to late week and then E is going to let the cat out of the bag and we may end the week with P deciding to leave R.

There's a small (ok maybe large..) part of me that wants her to throw her mangalsutra at him after slapping him (which seems like is definitely going to happen)... like they can get married again & find each other again - no problem.. but in this moment in time I want her to be brutal and a bit cruel.

Oh yes I really want Pallavi to tell her how she honored the vows of marriage but Raghav did not and remove the mangalsutra and leave. I think that is happening after the slap because I don't see Pals with MS in D house or in the other bts. Raghav has scenes with LWR too - I guess it might be after Pals walks out. He is being blind as bat and he needs a good kick to wake up and smell the coffee.

I really hope the last 2 episodes they have Raghav and Pallavi remarry with all the rituals and can we have a happy ending please. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Hope it happens.

Originally posted by: fria319

Well I think the thing is - we can say every scene is to move the story forward. At the end of the day, dialogue of a character should be given weight. This is a tv show, 90% of the plot moves through dialogue.

So people are going to pick apart R's dialogue, as they did with P. I would/do while I'm watching the show because that's all I can rely on to give me insight into what the character is thinking atm.

R treating E as if he didn't "sleep" with her and therefore so casually saying "I told her to stay" is what looks bad. The optics are bad because when P finds everything out - all of this is going to hit her like a ton of bricks. All of this will come straight back to her. Doesn't matter if it's just for the plot or not - fact is they gave him that dialogue, they put him in that position / let him take that stance, all the while knowing what he "did" with her behind his wife's back.

(using "" here because we all know the circumstances in which they happened)

I said it before, I'll say it again, the way they're having R compartmentalize and essentially block his night with E is optically horrible. I understand why he's handling it this way, but it's not something thats justifiable. So people who are upset with his dealing with his issues, are IMO rightfully upset. He's just digging his hole bigger and bigger.

Fria, I'm partly blaming the writing for this. I think we wouldn't see a compartmentalizing Raghav today if they were not fast forwarding through this track. The shift was very abrupt (due to fans' reaction + even lower TRPs +off air news or whatever) so it feels weird to us as viewers. I'm not okay with him being so nonchalant about this either but at this point, I don't expect Raghav to suddenly start making sense. My focus is solely on Pallavi. During the Mandar track, once I realized the writers were not going to do justice to Pallavi's character, I lowered my expectations from her character and that's how I was able to survive it. Similarly, Esha's track used to make me want to break my screen in the initial days because Raghav was behaving like an idiot but I no longer feel that way because I know the writers aren't going to give him smart dialogues at this point. They just won't. It won't happen until the truth is out.

Originally posted by: rubys07

So sweet of you🤗

Regarding him being sensitive, if you notice he's been against Esha being at RR mansion since day 1, it was Pallavi who brought E in because she thought E was desperately in need of saving from Sumit. Raghav does not know about Pallavi and Esha's conversation and that Pallavi now wants E out of the house. This is roughly the convo RaghVi have today:

R: Esha called me and told me everything that happened between you two.

P: Everything?

R: Yeah, she said that you two were having some misunderstandings because of everything that's happened over the last couple of days, and now all that MU is cleared up. But because she doesn't want this to happen again, she wants to leave the house. She's your good friend and doesn't want to lose you, I didn't let her leave.

Pallavi didn't get a chance to tell Raghav what she wanted or the actual conversation that took place between her and E, and he has no clue she want E out of the house now. The Warangal night and some of the EshGu scenes have definitely been cringe to watch but Raghav has not led Esha on in any of the recent scenes IMO, it's ALL Esha being delusional despite seeing his loyalty to his wife.

Yes exactly Raghav has clearly mentioned time and again that he wants only Pallavi in his life. He even clarified to Esha that the ONS happened because he was hallucinating about Pallavi. I don't think he is even thinking that he might have been taken advantage of by Esha. He accepts that he has done a mistake and is willing to pay for it but he doesn't have guts to tell Pallavi the truth. Yes he is going to reap the results of his decisions.

And Esha totally played Raghav by calling him up and playing a sob story as to how she wants to leave the house because she doesn't want Pallavi to misunderstand her and what not - Just like Mandar during the tracker drama came to RR house and played the victim card saying Pallavi I don't know why Raghav is tracking you but believe me I never wanted to come in between you two. Same to same dialogues so here Raghav got played just like Pallavi got played at that time.

I really hope Pallavi doesn't hide Esha's challenge and tells Raghav the truth because Raghav did a mistake of not telling Pallavi that Mandar had challenged him. I am hoping Pallavi tells Raghav the truth of what Esha has said. Let's see.

Originally posted by: manisha.8148

Not ONS but kheer kaand done....by M to rift between ragvi....but x factor are common in both tracks😆

Pals didn’t hide anything from RR ever but RR did many times and she Almost lost her life due to this nature of his . This time also he’s cheating her emotionally by hiding facts from her which is not right .