*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 17*~* Meri Duniyaa - Page 59

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I'm not sure how many here have watched Geet but it was the original Gul show (angry young man and dukhiyari female) which was later literally copy pasted (in terms of a lot of things) in IPK.

Geet wasn't as popular because it was on star one while IPK was on star plus. Both shows were way too similar except for the background story of the leads. The treatment, the fall catch scenes all of them were literally the same.

I could never come to watch IPK after Geet because it was class apart but like Fria said Mhrw will remain timeless and will always have a recall value while I won't be able to watch Geet the same way I did a decade ago.

I actually watched Geet after IPKKND and realized that it was the first show to be released and I was like "ohhhh wow.. these shows are incredibly similar".

But Geet imo had a more confusing/ambiguous ending than IPKKND. I didn't understand how it ended at all. 🤣 I was just like "uhh what happened?" I was so confused. Although, not that IPKKND ended any better 🤣.

I feel like all ITV shows end like trash though. There's no hope. 🤣I can't think of a single show that didn't fizzle out towards the end and end on a weird note because they didn't plan far ahead enough to truly wrap the show.

Originally posted by: fria319

omggggggg yesssssssssssss

Raghav's need and value of P's consent. UUFFFFFFF It's probably one of my most FAVORITE things about this show and their pairing. It is so important that we see a man who doesn't force his affection on the woman. I will always love this show for making that a central part of their relationship.

Yup - that is why I can still root for Raghav ending up with Pallavi even with all these humongous mistakes he is making.

The very first episode I saw was Raghav feeling guilty when he comes to know that Sulo is the one behind the MMS kaand. And then he goes immediately to the D house to tell them about his misunderstandings. When Vijay doesn't listen to him and the first time LWR is introduced, I love the way Raghav says - Pallavi mera wife hain. I am going to fight the world for her like I do for Amma and Keerti. That was when this character was sealed for me.

Straight up owned his mistake, tried to rectify it and when it didn't work accepted the relationship with all heart and gave his wife all rights. In the age of men forcing their wishes on women just because they are men, I am so glad Sickand gave this beautiful characterization for Raghav. That is why I know Raghav deserves Pallavi - He can be the man she deserves and much more.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I totally agree here Fria. I've been discussing with Soni why we loved MHRW way more than we ever did geet (which was easily comparable to Geet) and noted a few reasons:

1. Raghav's backstory - the fact that his anger was not unjustified. The backstory made him so much human. They didn't make it a sob story, they rather made it a story of how flawed he was and how he tried and repented. He was never able to let go off the guilt despite earning forgiveness from Amma.

2. Pallavi wasn't a bechari - she literally beat Raghav in all his challenges and using the right away. She was way too sharp and perceptive. She never gave up and that's what we loved about her.

3. No fall trip chemistry - most romance shows follow the age old formulae of a eyelock and fall catch etc. While we had these scenes in mhrw but they were far and in between. Their chemistry was just in the way they looked at each other in a room filled with people and not just when they touched or looked at each other.

4. Balance in a relationship - this was one of the most important reasons of why we felt Raghvi so deeply was because they were both equals. In most shows the man is seen to be more important and the woman more subservient. In Mhrw it was a healthy balance. Both indulged in each other, Raghav would simp over Pallavi and she would also baby him. I don't think I've seen such a balanced relationship on tv before.

5. Raghav's redemption and consent like Sharada explained. Despite being an alpha, he valued her consent and waited for her to accept him. He respected her always and you can see it when he says so proudly to Amma during the photoshoot that Pallavi accepted him. He changed for her because she was the light he wanted in his dark life. They both made each other better and stronger. They complemented each other. I loved that Raghvi were flawed and lonely and how they got happiness in the other.

Sorry it turned out way bigger than I wanted. I can keep going.

keeeep goinggggg.

I love this entire list.

Yess to everything. Honestly I bash SS a lot for his current decisions about the show - but he really set the story up for success for a while there.

Originally posted by: fria319

I actually watched Geet after IPKKND and realized that it was the first show to be released and I was like "ohhhh wow.. these shows are incredibly similar".

But Geet imo had a more confusing/ambiguous ending than IPKKND. I didn't understand how it ended at all. 🤣 I was just like "uhh what happened?" I was so confused. Although, not that IPKKND ended any better 🤣.

I feel like all ITV shows end like trash though. There's no hope. 🤣I can't think of a single show that didn't fizzle out towards the end and end on a weird note because they didn't plan far ahead enough to truly wrap the show.

oh Geet was pregnant when it suited the narrative and was not pregnant when it was not needed *cough* chemistry and trip and fall scenes. I think Geet was pregnant for the longest time - 1 year or so in the show and then it resulted in a miscarriage. Dang the tracks were horrendous and I agree everything in IPK was cut paste of Geet scenes. IPK also ended horrible and the offscreen tamasha was nuts.

Compared to all of them, MHRW is so beautiful and I am so glad there is hardly any tamasha and we got a clear cut end date for the show. I will treasure the remaining 24 episodes and hopefully the creatives will close the loops properly just like they closed the loop of Raghav being Ramaswamy.

Originally posted by: PSharada

With Geet Gul left so many tracks open that MHRW looks like a classic compared to Geet. I seriously did not know if Geet was pregnant, whether she was still married to Maan's brother, Whether Maan's brother loved Geet or what not - The triangles the open plots were horrible. Compared to that MHRW does not have tracks left open like that.

I can't say how happy I am that the creatives have closed the loop of Raghav being Ramaswamy. Please disclose the truth of Pallavi being Amma's blood donor too and that Pallavi designed those jewellery designs.

So Geet was pregnant for months on end without showing any bump which seemed so unreasonable.

She wasn't married to his brother, it was a fake wedding he did to get her property. Maan's brother slept with Geet because he strayed looking at her beauty and not because he loved her. They eventually forgive Dev and get him to marry Geet's cousin. Trust me not just loopholes there were a lot of problematic things shown in Geet.

They made her go on her knees to ask Dev for his blood to save Maan. Showing Maaneet pally with Dev (he got Geet pregnant and she was almost honor killed cos of that when she was not at fault anywhere - all of this was bhool bhool). The worse Gul did was Maan had a memory loss (last track of the show), they didn't bother to show a ten minute scene to show he got his memory back. I mean wtf was that. They ruined their entire history by not making him remember how and why he fell for Geet.

Atleast Mhrw is trying to close open loops, they literally remembered Ramaswamy today when at the end of it, it hardly mattered rn. I am keeping my fingers crossed mhrw will close all open loops and we'll really love the way it will end. Like you said, this is a show we'll love to watch back again and again.

Originally posted by: PSharada

I absolutely love MHRW for lot of things

- For casting local actors who look the part

- For casting the D family so perfect in the first episodes and getting the Maharastrian look on dot

- For Raghav still using beautiful telugu dialogues in between and not losing the feel of a Hyderabadi person. Believe me the way hyderabadis speak Hindi is little different

- For having the beautiful RR Mansion and the beautiful scenes that this PH shot using mirror as reflection

- For giving enough takkar to the FL and ML in the beginning episodes that I was rooting for Raghav and Pallavi by turns. During Lion track my sympathy was with Raghav and then dang I hated him during the defamation track.

- For making the forcible marriage at least reasonable and not cringy like in most shows where the ML has misunderstanding and goes on rampage by marrying the FL - How it suits the purpose is beyond me.

- For giving strong MILs who root for the daughter-in-law more than the son

- For the beautiful redemption of Raghav in Hyderabad track

- For the understanding and heartfelt conversations of Raghav and Pallavi

- For staying true to the characters for most part of the show - including Raghav's Ostrich tendency of burying his head in the sand and Pallavi being so pure and generous.

I can safely say MHRW will be my favorite show for a very long time.

yesss I agree 1000%

They really built strong characters. This is why its so hard to watch them as they are now but hopefully before the show ends they're back in original form.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I love the RR mansion and the way it has always been utilised. Every nook and crany was used unlike most shows where aangan and kitchen are most used places.

I am also petty about it and I'm glad the set will be torn down instead of being used as a house in any other show. I don't want to see our RR mansion as any one else's house on TV bas.

I agree with you and Ru that I am glad that I didn’t have to see this place on any other show. EK’s reuse of sets irritates me so much.

And this house is really good ❤️
Everytime I see them walking in the living, dining, kitchen and ground floor rooms, I’m still trying to figure the directions. It’s actually so intricate. And it’s nice to see them walking around. And the walk down the stairs ❤️
RR’s walk, Pallavi coming down. Looking down from the top. I especially liked how they panned to Farhad standing on when he overheard E instigating P.

The bar counter, the TT table, the bathroom❤️

I’m glad we got one scene of them in the bathroom at least.

Kitchens were also perfect.

I initially hated that their room was the same as Sunkee. But to see the efforts they did to actually make it look different ❤️ even though the blue antique cupboard was still there. I’m glad Sunkee’s room didn’t open into the garden/bar area.

Even the den gave that feeling of class and royalty. The way RR sits there and goes through the files and all that ❤️
Those scenes with Raghav and Pallavi there.

The loft even, in P’s drunk scene 😂

The stairs outside the house.

The area behind the lion statue

And that scene when P & R are running around the house in that love code scene where Amma was asking if P wanted any of her sarees

The romance near the stairs and the convo on the stairs

The convo on both sides of the door that leads to the garden - inside the room and outside the room.
The scene in their closet - dressing area. It all gave the feeling of elegant opulence of RR. And the glass wall of the bathroom ❤️

The photo shoot sequence ❤️
How seamless that was! From watching her through the mirror, getting ready in the dressing area, then the mehndi and wish thing near the garden door, Pallavi on the chair, Raghav on the stool or sitting down. I can’t forget how beautiful that was ❤️

And finally yesterday when they used the seating next to that gods wall as well.

I’m so glad that they didn’t have a couch or sofa in their room and they didn’t go the usual ITV way of sleeping on the couch. That’s the most ridiculous thing ever. And they actually had such a beautiful and mature conversation surrounding it and the subsequent implementation of that new idea and scene ❤️
And in that convo as well, we see a different side of Raghav and Pallavi, different from what we had been seeing in the Hyd track.
And I loved that as well ❤️

I have too many hearts going on ❤️❤️

No hearts are enough for this show 😍

Originally posted by: rubys07

Lol Sunaina, I used to follow IPK very diligently (it was the only desi show I watched back then) and while I liked many things, I was not/am still not okay with the manhandling and lack of redemption (but that's a common problem with most of Gul's shows). Barun and Sanaya were asked in a recent interview about the show and why they thought it clicked with the audience. Both said that the angry young man falling for the bubbly girl was a somewhat different trope back in those days. If you notice, there was a sharp increase in TV shows following that same pattern after IPK's success. Gul's followed the exact same formula for most of her other shows since then (IB, Humsafars, QH, YJHJK to name a few). It's been done so many times by now that it no longer looks as appealing (to me at least). (There are people who still love IPK and I respect that.)

Compared to that, MHRW is just different, and it's not just one thing that makes it different. SS has done the best thing ever by casting SaiShi as RaghVi because I don't think RaghVi were originally written with such nuances on paper. The writing of these characters might have been good but Sai and Shivangi have made Raghav and Pallavi extraordinarily remarkable. I've spent more than half my life watching ITV and I've never rewatched any of its shows as many times as I've rewatched MHRW. Like we've discussed here earlier, the problem with SS is that while he usually has better plots and some originality, he doesn't know how to follow through his own story after a point. I'm assuming that all the criticism from the fans didn't help the matter either because it might've just made him more willing to get done with the show and move on.

bold : this is the actual truth why things started going wrong in Mhrw after a certain time.

It's not like sandeep wasn't interested in this show. Who likes to throw away money on things which doesn't interest you. He was very much interested and engaged into it. Remember the bts where pallavi goes to return money to raghav and first time enter rr mansion. She then watches his portrait and slips up and raghav catches. It was posted by sandeep only and shower scene bts in hyderabad episodes was also posted by him. He was so much excited for mandar entry ,he specifically went to kohlapur to surprise the cast before mandar track was to start.He was so pumped up in his first live .It's not like he never tried to promote his show.

but then excessive criticism , negativity took a toll on him I guess. woh kehte hai na taali ek hath se nahi bajti. wahi kahani hai. Fans are also too demanding. I never seen other shows fans tagging makers as much as mhrw fans do even for their absurd demands.All this led to attack on his ego. How can these two newbie actors be bigger than my story/show and how can these characters which I have written be loved more than my creativity.So ultimately he decided to destroy his own beloved creation in end.

PS: Somewhere I still feel that if people had let him tell his mandar story that he originally planned , we wouldn't have been in this position. I agree that some of the scenes were excessive creepy in this track but there is limit on itv how much you can show nasty things to female lead. So things would have eventually gotten better in later part of this track we would have gotten our answers in coherent manner regarding this track and producer interest too would have been in show right now.

Originally posted by: fria319

I actually watched Geet after IPKKND and realized that it was the first show to be released and I was like "ohhhh wow.. these shows are incredibly similar".

But Geet imo had a more confusing/ambiguous ending than IPKKND. I didn't understand how it ended at all. 🤣 I was just like "uhh what happened?" I was so confused. Although, not that IPKKND ended any better 🤣.

I feel like all ITV shows end like trash though. There's no hope. 🤣I can't think of a single show that didn't fizzle out towards the end and end on a weird note because they didn't plan far ahead enough to truly wrap the show.

Actually Geet didn't get a proper ending because the creatives kept changing. The show was conceived by Nisaar Parvez who had a falling out with Gul in between. I guess that's when the entire show went haywire. Also the decision to revamp the channel was too sudden (2 weeks max) so they weren't able to literally do justice (not that the show was anyway a masterpiece by the end of it).

If you ask me, the track after Geet comes to Delhi and till their wedding was the best period of Geet. Maan despite being an angry young man didn't man handle Geet and he respected and valued her a lot. Though there was still a lot of imbalance in the relationship because Maan was touted to be the knight in shining armour for Geet.

I loved the fact that Maaneet had a love marriage and not a hate marriage. Their nok jhoks and banters were beautiful. Unfortunately most people who watched IPK wont know the beauty the original Geet was.

Also, 100 to your point on Sicku. I've never felt that I would love flawed characters so so much. Bigger credit to Saishi who made Raghvi more loveable than how they were conceived on paper.

Also kudos to him to make us think so differently with this last track, he made me literally question my rigid notions on how much I can actually tolerate, accept and forgive someone who is genuinely sorry for his actions. Not all tv shows can make you think and question your beliefs. They did it so well.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I'm not sure how many here have watched Geet but it was the original Gul show (angry young man and dukhiyari female) which was later literally copy pasted (in terms of a lot of things) in IPK.

Geet wasn't as popular because it was on star one while IPK was on star plus. Both shows were way too similar except for the background story of the leads. The treatment, the fall catch scenes all of them were literally the same.

I could never come to watch IPK after Geet because it was class apart but like Fria said Mhrw will remain timeless and will always have a recall value while I won't be able to watch Geet the same way I did a decade ago.

Ren, I have watched Geet but Maan wasn't as MCP IMO. He was khadoos in general but as far as I recall, there wasn't as much manhandling in that show. But yeah, I've seen most of Gul's shows (except for tamarind and the rangu wala because😆) and it's such a done to death pattern I can never go back and rewatch any of them.