*~*TAZBU (SaiShi and RaghVi) AT 17*~* Meri Duniyaa - Page 34

Originally posted by: rubys07

@b: And this is exactly why EK shows or even Rajan Shahi shows go on for years. I'm traumatized by EK and the Co.'s shows and tracks for life but gotta give credit where due. People don't expect it to be all lovey-dovey all the time but there is a reason the leads are called "the leads". They're supposed to lead, not be treated as secondary characters whose feelings and thoughts don't matter to the audience. I get his excitement to introduce these negative iconic characters because maybe he wants to do what TV shows in the West do: have one or two big baddies who are evil and outright negative or questionable and yet people manage to gush over them or connect to them. It's a great thing to experiment but ITV's demography is different, and so are our expectations. Not to mention that Western shows still do a great job of balancing the ss they give to the antagonist/s and the leads. In an attempt to make it intriguing and suspenseful, SS ruins the organic charm of his shows that so many creatives *cough* EK *cough* never manage to create in their shows.

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The whole reason why anyone sticks to these ITV shows are for the leads - both of them. Them reducing P to essentially R's love interest is what killed the motivation for wanting to watch both the M and E track. Also this was a show that was HEAVILY lead couple forward. Up until the end of HYD - they were in about 80% (?) of the episode. At least that's how it felt. So to go from that to a 50% (during M track) and now maybe 30% is too much of a drop off. No one cares about the villains.

if he wanted to create a villain to love - then sympathy needs to be created first. He couldn't do that with M and tried to do that with E but he pulled the trigger too early. E needed to be shown as a real DV victim and seemingly over R if they wanted to garner sympathy for her. Plus they need a better actor to pull it off LOL.

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

This.. the confession was really the beginning to the end of this show.. every love story try ti stretch the confession with drama, angst, focus on the leads feelings for each other but alas, none of it was explored especially with the kind of chemistry the two had.. ah the potential!!!
Am curious as to what made the team give the confession so early?

Exactly! The tension and the angst, drama in unknown feelings are the best part of these shows!

I also always wonder why they did the ILU so early. It probably was just a blunder from a creative stand point. They thought they could make it work - but it didn't.

Originally posted by: fria319

I truly don't think he knows what to do after an ILU confession. I never watched KHKT to compare so I'll only speak on MHRW.

Here, the show went downhill during M track IMO bc of 2 reasons

1) emphasis on M more than P and her thoughts. It turned into a M v. R show and they ignored FL completely

2) early ILU confession. No TRP aunty cares to see that quick of an ILU. They want the tension, the jealousy, the longing, the push & pull of figuring out feelings. Look at GHKKPM and PS milking this part of the show.

After the early ILU, there was no way you could separate R+P and have the audience understand the separation. R was too deeply in love with P to ever let her go and P was too in love with R to ever not be confident in their relationship. So the love story part of the story kind of came to a stand still.

If they had shown that they felt things but wasn't sure waht the other one felt. If they had shown P being confused about her feelings (rightfully so in this situation bc there was no declaration of love from either side). If they had shown R wanting P to be his, but not knowing how to voice it because he ws worried he wasn't worthy of her. etc etc etc, we'd all be watching a much better show now and M track would have faired better IMO. People would've been able to stomach P doing those things / being oblivious if she wasn't sure if she loved R or if she wasn't sure what she felt for him.

This is why the accident track was so good IMO. The feelings from both sides were clearly there but they weren't named so the tension between the two were at an all time high. I'll never forget that wake up scene.

I've watched enough romance drama shows to know when to pull the ILU trigger - and this was pulled too early in this show.

You know, when I saw them confessing, I was happy for a while thinking it didn't follow a cliched route and felt refreshing. However, like you said, the anticipation, the push and pull was gone after that. Most viewers dig that whole will-they-confess-or-not journey of the leads because as viewers, you get to see both their sides while in the story, they remain either oblivious to or doubtful of each other's feelings, and that creates opportunities for the external forces to create MUs. I liked their confession but also found myself asking 'what now?' because the moment the leads become fully aware of each other's love, they become a unit and the audience become too sure of them being together no matter the adversities. Everyone was high on RaghVi back then so SS probably thought showing ILY would garner good ratings but even for TRP shows, that tadap is an important factor in romance.

Originally posted by: Lonelythots

No.. i am thinking that the whole team knew about the last date , last week itself when the so called shocking and rocking twist didnt get them the skyrocketing trps. Sandip commenting on sai’s insta post was pretty much a farewell post for him.. I think it was just made public with this weeks trp which showed the trend of trps for this track.

The tadka will be there till the last day i believe. this is what happened in khkt and am guessing this is his modus operandi. Also since the mandaar track, all this show has is tadka..

Am not sure what to make of shivangi’s you will get what u want.. M thinking may be pallavi will walk out of raghav’s life forever and show will end..May be thats the only realistic bit of this entire plot.

Can we dare hope that show ends with all truths, clarity of Esha trapping him, him getting rid of Esha, but Pals cannot forgive and separation, and we have MHRW season 2 starting nextvJan, with leap, new Raghvi again.

Pals went to US with her brother, while Raghav is handling his business and Deshmukh Saree store.

She comes back for Amhad wedding, Raghav is there too.

And thier story starts again..

Dare I hope that there is a reason why the leads stressed on watching this torturous week. FD came through, Sai thanked fans ...which means they tested the pull that SaiShi have on FD...and then this announcement came....dare I hope its planning for season 2.

Originally posted by: rubys07

You know, when I saw them confessing, I was happy for a while thinking it didn't follow a cliched route and felt refreshing. However, like you said, the anticipation, the push and pull was gone after that. Most viewers dig that whole will-they-confess-or-not journey of the leads because as viewers, you get to see both their sides while in the story, they remain either oblivious to or doubtful of each other's feelings, and that creates opportunities for the external forces to create MUs. I liked their confession but also found myself asking 'what now?' because the moment the leads become fully aware of each other's love, they become a unit and the audience become too sure of them being together no matter the adversities. Everyone was high on RaghVi back then so SS probably thought showing ILY would garner good ratings but even for TRP shows, that tadap is an important factor in romance.

Guys yes they made mistakes but I still believe what we saw till Esha track was beautiful. I am glad we got a confession when we did because it would be out of character for them not to confess or talk when M is at the door, figuratively.

One good thing is after 28th November I'll not have to wake up at 6 am. 8.30 will do just fine. 😎

Originally posted by: rubys07

You know, when I saw them confessing, I was happy for a while thinking it didn't follow a cliched route and felt refreshing. However, like you said, the anticipation, the push and pull was gone after that. Most viewers dig that whole will-they-confess-or-not journey of the leads because as viewers, you get to see both their sides while in the story, they remain either oblivious to or doubtful of each other's feelings, and that creates opportunities for the external forces to create MUs. I liked their confession but also found myself asking 'what now?' because the moment the leads become fully aware of each other's love, they become a unit and the audience become too sure of them being together no matter the adversities. Everyone was high on RaghVi back then so SS probably thought showing ILY would garner good ratings but even for TRP shows, that tadap is an important factor in romance.

yessss the tadap was gone. and yesss it was really a "hmm ok, what can they show now" I think its harder to pull in audiences after an ILU confession if you're not showing the leads do things (be together, have happy moments, have light episodes, consummate, etc). So not only did they do the ILU early, they stopped following it up with romance except 1-2 random scenes. Those scenes aren't enough to retain the audience.

IMO it requires a lot of finesse and skill to show tadap/anticipation/tension/etc after an ILU confession. Not every one can do it.

Personally, I like the journey to ILU more than post ILU scnes & that's what I prefer to watch for any show (although some shows stretch it tooo much). Although it was nice to see the ILU, even at the time they showed it I already had felt it was too early. They'd only been in each others' good books for what, a month and a half? Barely. After all that hatred - it just didn't make sense to me nor did I want all their tension to end.

After an ILU, a separation is only possible to show if there were major MUs and they failed in that area too. R+P were shown to be too strong- individually & together - that for them to separate bc of a MU seemed contrived. The better route IMO would've been to prolong the 'discovering feelings' phase.

Originally posted by: RainbowUnicorm

Can we dare hope that show ends with all truths, clarity of Esha trapping him, him getting rid of Esha, but Pals cannot forgive and separation, and we have MHRW season 2 starting nextvJan, with leap, new Raghvi again.

Pals went to US with her brother, while Raghav is handling his business and Deshmukh Saree store.

She comes back for Amhad wedding, Raghav is there too.

And thier story starts again..

Dare I hope that there is a reason why the leads stressed on watching this torturous week. FD came through, Sai thanked fans ...which means they tested the pull that SaiShi have on FD...and then this announcement came....dare I hope its planning for season 2.

omggggg can someone write a FF on this plot. It sounds so gooood .

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Guys yes they made mistakes but I still believe what we saw till Esha track was beautiful. I am glad we got a confession when we did because it would be out of character for them not to confess or talk when M is at the door, figuratively.

One good thing is after 28th November I'll not have to wake up at 6 am. 8.30 will do just fine. 😎

Haan woh toh I agree, the story is still beautiful no matter how it was narrated but Sickand should've stalked IF a little if he wanted better ideas😆

Lol don't be too sure Ren. Pata chala you're waking up at the same time everyday screaming "Did I miss the episode today?"

Originally posted by: rubys07

Haan woh toh I agree, the story is still beautiful no matter how it was narrated but Sickand should've stalked IF a little if he wanted better ideas😆

Lol don't be too sure Ren. Pata chala you're waking up at the same time everyday screaming "Did I miss the episode today?"

I will wake up because body clock but I will turn and go off to bed. 🤢

Originally posted by: joliefemme

I will wake up because body clock but I will turn and go off to bed. 🤢

*you will turn, hurl some adorable expletives at SS and go off to bed only to have nightmares where the show is still running with EshGu married and Pallavi MIA🤔