• MHRW Episode Discussion Thread • #74 - Page 103

Originally posted by: inlieu

I just watched this week's episodes from start to end in one flow and looking at the events as a whole I actually don't think it's too bad. Pallavi is being delusional as usual and Raghav is behaving impulsively. Nothing new there. Ironically, I do think a lot of what Sunny was telling Esha about Raghav being forced to do things to pacify is spot on, though not as sinister as he made it out to be. I finally get that this track isn't so much about trust as it is about accepting one another in a marriage, and the detrimental effects of trying to change a person's nature or forcing them to go against it.

Raghav himself didn't seem convinced about the changes in him when arguing with Esha before the press conference, among dialogs, so what happened next didn't surprise me at all. Emotional manipulation will only work temporarily with him, whether it's done by Esha or Pallavi. It's not easy to tame this beast and the underlying message is that he can only be truly tame if he wants to be, never by force. With this, the writers have gone back to the core theme of Beauty and the Beast, and I'm applauding them for the layered writing again that I'd been missing for weeks. Also, props to them for learning from their experience with the Mandarin track and leaving Esha's intentions ambiguous for this long.

Agreed.

I too somewhere feel that Raghav and Pallavi didn't get that much of connecting time before their wedding. It was always about the D fam and some drama where they ended up hating each other in the beginning and then suddenly all fine at the end. So now as we look into their relationship we can see that the love is a bit forced. It's like arrange marriage hai toh pyaar toh hona hi tha baad main.

They haven't accepted each other yet specially not the flaws. It's more like i cannot live without the other person rather than saying that the other person is my life and i trust them. It's always mera Raghav and meri Pallavi between them and not "hum".

This track is more like them understanding the true dynamics of their relationship after a third person or their past walks in. They confessed during the Mandaar track because they had fear of loosing the other person and not because they wanted to.

Originally posted by: delusionalfan

Agreed.

I too somewhere feel that Raghav and Pallavi didn't get that much of connecting time before their wedding. It was always about the D fam and some drama where they ended up hating each other in the beginning and then suddenly all fine at the end. So now as we look into their relationship we can see that the love is a bit forced. It's like arrange marriage hai toh pyaar toh hona hi tha baad main.

They haven't accepted each other yet specially not the flaws. It's more like i cannot live without the other person rather than saying that the other person is my life and i trust them. It's always mera Raghav and meri Pallavi between them and not "hum".

This track is more like them understanding the true dynamics of their relationship after a third person or their past walks in. They confessed during the Mandaar track because they had fear of loosing the other person and not because they wanted to.

@bold I felt exactly the same when those scenes aired. They hadn't fully understood their relationship at that point but knew at least that they didn't want to let go. As for acceptance it's clear that one person accepts pretty much but the other one is far from it. This track is meant to address that.

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold I felt exactly the same when those scenes aired. They hadn't fully understood their relationship at that point but knew at least that they didn't want to let go. As for acceptance it's clear that one person accepts pretty much but the other one is far from it. This track is meant to address that.

They haven't had that equality in their relationship yet. Raghav accepted D fam even though they re not blood related to Pallavi and not to forget how BWA ruined his sister and his mom's life. What more than this is needed to show how much he loves her! He was hurt during Mandaar track but all he kept on saying was how much he still wanted Pallavi by his side.

And now when he's flawed a little nobody wants to give him a chance and understand him.

Originally posted by: beastmaster

What the cvs have done with Raghav's character is unbelievabl. It breaks my heart that makers had to go down this route for trp.

Raghav who believed in the sanctity of relationships getting intimate with his ex was wrong at so many levels. Unlike so many others here , I don't think Esha took advantage of him. From my understanding of the whole situation, makers nowhere have implied so, atleast till now they haven't. Both got carried away in their emotions. If Raghav was drunk, Esha was in a vulnerable state of mind, so I blame both.

Esha atleast wasn't in a relationship, whereas Raghav despite his tall claims of love and commitment towards Pallavi, entertained his ex in full consciousness, so I hold him accountable for the mess.

The worst part is, he's being extremely selfish by keeping the truth from Pallav and planning a honeymoon now🤦‍♀️. Damn the guy is coming off as a pathological lier and a coward.

If pallavi trying to change Raghav's core personality trials is wrong, then we are very conveniently forgetting a very important character trait of Raghav that we were introduced to.........him being a playboy.🤦‍♀️

Well, if it's difficult for him to quit alcohol and illegal ways of business despite Pallavi's objections and revert to his old grumpy self, I can see why he strayed in his marriage.😆

It's all Pallavi's fault that she expected fidelity from him. Changing core personality trait overnight is impossible after all.

Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe they ruined Raghav's entire redemption and RaghVi's progression just to fit the ex in the story. How I wish they had accommodated her without the ons. Every promise Raghav made to Pallavi sounds so shallow now.💔

Beautifully said…Raghav has not changed, he is still the same, hypocritical, selfish, arrogant, adamant, playboy, impulsive to the core, one who when driven by his emotions and rage can ruin everything for him and others…Pallavi didn’t change him at all…she taking a bullet went in vain…now does she deserve this NO, does she deserve the right to know the truth and take her own decisions YES will she ever get to do that…well what kichdi, daal tadaka the writer are making, only they know…

Absolutely agree that for plot progression they ruined the progress in Raghav’s character and Raghav and Pallavi’s love story so much that now we are left wondering and questioning everything they showed us till today…and it’s 200+ episodes so the shift to ground zero neither looks organic nor realistic…

Sorry to coming between your conversation I hope you both won't mind 😆

RaghVi confession happened out of fear only before that they were in lala land they will be together. They love each other but didn't want to accept that. Mandar entry was first hit on their relationship and they came out of that comfort zone. Once confession happened both were like chalo ho gaya confession ab humein koi alag nahi kar sakta but raghav was still insecure because he knew pallavi love for deshmukh family. Pallavi taken him for granted in that track

Here also same thing happening and raghav is hiding things out of guilt

Esha is not raghav responsibility but warangal night is going to be biggest hit on raghvi relationship and it will either make them stronger or break their relationship

Dynamic of raghav and Pallavi is that both are giver and always keep their family above themselves. They can go any extent to save their family but first time in their life someone was there who is there for them. How it feels when someone love you and to whom you can lean they understand each other

About pallavi changing raghav. Raghav is wrong at somewhere with illegal activities specially which harm someone life. Pallavi approach is wrong to make him understand that where is he wrong. You can't be 100% honest in business and you should not do such activities which affects someone life

If we remember Hyderabad days when raghav came to know he did wrong to pallavi. He realised himself and he did everything to mend her relationship with deshmukh by keeping his ego and pride aside.

During haar chori also when he was impulsive to close the showroom it is pallavi who make him understand that where is he wrong. He understood and change his decision

Pallavi intention were not wrong but he is project and wife ka dharam hain pati sudharna that was wrong.

As she said in yesterday episode she wants whole world to know Raghav Rao is good person. She doesn't want his image to be wrong and criminal man and getting curse from society because she knew he doesn't deserve that. He is good man in that Don avtar.

Raghav is also proud that how she is there for him and didn't make fuss how can she interfere in his business like this

Raghav wrong habit to hide things and live in guilt

I hope from next track this will go away no more hiding and no more guilty raghav I am bored with this.

There was no need to show life and death situation so he will understand. But ITV hain to dikhana hi tha

They both didn't get proper time for eachother after confession and when they got it was either about keerti or Mandar or deshmukh and now esha.

I hope makers will give them breathing space and to their relationship

Pallavi realized her love for Raghav in the nail and 4 bottle blood incident and was about to confess even before Mandaar came into the picture. Pallavi's confession was interrupted due to Mandaar.

Originally posted by: Hopeful_Heart

Pallavi realized her love for Raghav in the nail and 4 bottle blood incident and was about to confess even before Mandaar came into the picture. Pallavi's confession was interrupted due to Mandaar.

Yes but once Mandar came she forgot about confession 😆

Until Sulochana and Mandar pointed finger at their relationship both confessed

They were scare that they will lose each other and didn't know other person love or not

Originally posted by: Anu1975

I agree with you..had she not come in between and taken his share of bullet, Raghav would have been dead now…har cheez me taag adana hai is kho!!! Na Raghav zinda hotha, na Esha aathi, na soyaa huwa Soulmate wala pyar jag jatha, na drink session na ONS…everything is because of Pallaviii...Ja Pallavi ja, Raghav was living such a peaceful happy and fulfilling life before you forcefully married him and came to his zindagi and tere aathe hi bechare ka sab kuch tabah ho gaya…I hate you Pallavi…

Arre but had Raghav not saved her from Mandar's knife by putting a gun to his head allowing Aayi to react in the meantime, she would have been long dead. Also, agar Raghav didn't marry her forcefully, she would have been legally Mandar's wife and would be a living corpse living with a murderer psycho.

The best end to the story is Raghvi both murder each other, kissa khatam, kahani khatam. Pyar main hisab rakhne ki zarurat hi nai phir.

Originally posted by: Anu1975

Beautifully said…Raghav has not changed, he is still the same, hypocritical, selfish, arrogant, adamant, playboy, impulsive to the core, one who when driven by his emotions and rage can ruin everything for him and others…Pallavi didn’t change him at all…she taking a bullet went in vain…now does she deserve this NO, does she deserve the right to know the truth and take her own decisions YES will she ever get to do that…well what kichdi, daal tadaka the writer are making, only they know…

Absolutely agree that for plot progression they ruined the progress in Raghav’s character and Raghav and Pallavi’s love story so much that now we are left wondering and questioning everything they showed us till today…and it’s 200+ episodes so the shift to ground zero neither looks organic nor realistic…

It's sad how both pallavi and Esha are getting blamed for the mess Raghav created for himself. It reflects the harsh reality of our society though. A guy cheats on his wife but it's the woman who gets the tag of homewrecker when it should be the man protecting his home and marriage not the non committed other woman.

If Raghav was experiencing withdrawal syndromes leading to the ons, let's also accept that he was a playboy, probably why straying was so easy for him. 10 years of rage for the ex gone in 10 seconds..... and boom....🤪 As they say old habits die hard. 😳

He is no thumb sucking toddler to get influenced by Esha. There were red flags regarding his emotions for the ex even before that unfortunate night.

Pallavi is nowhere close to being perfect, she's a flawed character for sure, but she's also a giver who loves unconditionally. And no one deserves the kind of betrayal that Raghav is subjecting her to. It's not just the ons, his actions post that night is equally questionable.

Also, Sandip and team are incompetent at execution. They can show Raghav having flashes of the ons whenever he's near Pallavi but he never thinks of her when he's with Esha. . I would have appreciated had they shown Raghav having flashes of pallavi taking a bullet for him when Esha hugs him, but no, it's too much to expect from this team.It comes across so inconsiderate of Raghav, as if Pallavi and their so called love holds no place in his heart

@bold, they did such disservice to Raghav's character by going ahead with the ons plot.Every promise, every tall claims of love from Raghav seems empty words to me now

They ruined Raghav so much for me that I cringe even watching old scenes of RaghVi now. 200 episodes of development gone down the drain.

I'm eagerly waiting for the confrontation, but knowing Sandip and co, I don't have much expectation. Nothing good should be expected from this 'progressive' team that conveniently brushed it's female lead getting harassed by the villain under the rug.😡

R got 2nd new suit after esha didi entry and pallavi has been there for so many months uske saamne wahi ke wahi 4 suit