Pandya Store|Episode Discussion #85|Farq Nahi Padta - Page 94

Originally posted by: kooki07

what ever you said is right from both sides but i F F all pandya family scenes except his own mother where you can see through a real mother and to be called mother differences .

Of course there will be a difference 🤷🏻‍♀️

I do not expect Dhara to be perfect. She will have her own flaws and I accept her flaws as well. But why do I need to hate her for it? She is someone who is trying to tie the breaking relationship of her children. Any woman will try that too.

My prob with her is she didn’t have a clear cut convo with Shiva even when she knows her Shiva never goes against her then why now. She is the same dhara who spoke to Dev clearly about Rishita then why not Shiva? And thats where I have dislike for her.

But other than that... If u wanna say Suman is behaving like a real mom then ofcourse she is. She is wise and has experienced motherhood. Dhara haven’t but till now she have been doing a nice job of it. I dont think hating her for some faults negates her previous deeds...

Originally posted by: manny136

I don't think it's that dire lol issue is gaura have no real story besides the baby and being pillars of the family. Devta just float around and are given voice of common sense but there is no real story for them they are just voice puppets you can make say anything lol. Shivi is the only love story they have which is the typical itv story a show requires so they have to go through hate like mu and then love and separation divorce plots are part of that. I think itv just can handle slow realistic stories and get trp. That's the sad fact. Even though I like realistic stuff but for itv I enjoy the ott cliche things and shivi are the usp of the show for itv love story.

So you are confirming that they will get back together on the last day of the show😆

Until I see progress in their story, I am going to keep trolling the writers about brining them together on the last day of the show and will say it multiple times😆

Originally posted by: mpks1

Can you please who these TRP audience are, would like to smack their heads? No wonder there is still marital abuse, regressive behavior and women are still suppressed in India.

Don’t ask me if it’s not in the Western World, yes it is but Women have the guts to leave the marriage and they move forward with life. I myself have couple of Single mom friends, White Americans raising the kids on their own with just visitation rights and some child support from their exes. They couldn’t be happier. The first thing both took of as soon as divorce was filed were their wedding rings and the actual divorce actually took another 6 months to be finalized.

I wish people start accepting divorces as a normal thing rather than a taboo in india..it is still not.. and things that bind a women with her marrg are promoting the idea of how important it is to be married no matter how the marrg is..sindoor..Mangalsutra.. all sorts of festivals an fasts especially concentrating on the women and her marrg..how many festivals do we have where husbands fasts for wife..let alone fast..a ritual that just nee for the husband to just go to temple for wife..not even one that I know of. They will individually care and pray for wife just like any friend or relatives does...but in our culture there is nothing that says it is needed to be done by the husband for a good wife or for her long life...not thag i am saying even that is necessary 🤪but I feel our ancestors were one good manipulators...who made all sorts of rules that let men control women's personal freedom a lot..and making men as their center of the universe....marriage is over rated. Thats what I personally think..marry if u find a partner good enough to enjoy and share life with...else divorce with dignity for each others peace ..everything else can go down the drain..

Originally posted by: ValleyOfPeace

When u see fault on one side what else can anyone say?

She needs to change her own behaviour too just like he does. If he apologises she needs to apologise too. To move forward with a clean slate the past atrocities from both the sides need to be erased. Balance is important in a relationship. And an apology cause no wounds..,

I have always been taught that in a storm the tree which stays straight and refuse to bow, breaks. And the grass that adjusts tides over. Just like that in a marriage, adjustments r necessary from both the ends.

As much as hurt she has received, that much hurt she has leashed out. Erasing it only for her while he works on his own self after apology is too heartless.

Why does her change need to depend on his? She needs her own realisation where she sees her fault as clearly as his.

His insecurity isn’t her fault but both their heartbreaks are each other’s fault.

When u see faults on one side, try to search fault on the others too. To see the picture clearly. When u give benefits of doubt to one try it with the others too. Because otherwise the picture is incomplete.

For me, I hope the apology from both the ends and erase the misgivings of the past from both the ends.

They will show what they will.show . let's see.

"Balance" is a pretty idealistic word. We all r striving towards achieving balance but do we succeed ?.....whatever I have seen of raavi and shiva, he is the dominating one in their relation . Like in dev rishita , rishita is dominating . His behavior will drive their relation so a lot will depend on his actions than hers...Plus , he is volatile and hot headed , her nature is different. In this track, he has taken every decision .... her presence failed to change anything in him..like , her goodness didn't rub on him but his junglipan has rubbed on her....may be sometime in future , the opposite will.happen , that time everyone will get a free field to bash raavi...I won't mind...and again they will try to achieve the balance as a couple....

In this particular track, sorry , I won't do victim blaming ..if she calls him jungli and he throws a brick at her , both are at fault , and she instigated him ? I don't see it that way.... If she slapped him it's bec he raised a finger on her character , and both r not equally at fault here. It's not her fault that she didn't hear what her friends said and anyways , whatever the provocation was , the fight could be avoided and he need not publicly humiliate her...ghar jaake eenth pathar maro ek doosre ko not in public.. if he didn't act like a raging bull with the auto driver for a mistake , she wouldn't call him jungli. If he didn't send divorce papers , raavi wouldn't come and blame dhara , she did what he wanted anyways.

The heartbreak is a result of miscommunication and lack of understanding for which I blame both. 💔but rage isnt the solution for it which Shiva resorted to....he took the decision to show more junglipan to raavi so that she leaves him. not raavi , so I will blame him more. For understanding to develop, it takes time and lots of "compromises "which everyone makes out of love..If Shiva doesn't understand what raavi said when she used the word "compromise " , I will blame Shiva for it not raavi. What could she possibly do ? When she mentioned compromise he lost it.

In the initial phase raavi misunderstood him and behaved rudely with him. When she realized she was wrong , she apologized to him. I dun see any reason why she won't do it NOW if she is at fault. We girls are so quick at saying sorry bec we hold onto our emotions dearly ..its not a big deal ..sorry must be in actions and that's what I said in the prev post. She will evolve with time but the environment around her will also decide how and when ..

Originally posted by: Palak2812

Shiva is great and Raavi too has done her share of mistakes but give me reasons why should Raavi even like Shiva specially after what he is doing from last few weeks.

Just bcoz Shiva realised he apparently loves Raavi it doesn't mean Raavi too should do that. She is definetly attracted to him but what is Shiva doing except from saving her from physical harm

Wait now he himself is harming her

Nevermind do give me reasons that Raavi can like her bully of 10yrs, treating her like a thing to exchange bangle tries to suicide along with him and never asked is she fine and for what? which his mother doesn't give a damn about, who treats her not even like a normal human, takes decisions about their relationship in which she too is involved all the time without ever asking what she wants.

Pandyas r doing bad with Shiva, they did bad with Raavi but what about Shiva ?

Bcz if I see Raavi's and Shiva's mistakes Shiva has treated her not better than a shit No offence and Raavi atleast never stooped down to that level like Shiva did.

Atleast shiva never locked her inside a cage and hit her with ceramic and scarred her face..there is/was a show where a male (lead😡) who did that have an amar prem kadha with the victim lead..🤪..I doubt they even had a rebirth prem kadha. 🤬

All shivas issue is his childishness and rude tongue..yes he needs to learn a lot..understand his mistakes.. regret hurting her emotionally ..yes..but people do love even if the partner is a bit too difficult to understand or handle(that's the right word😆)..especially in itv,love is spiritual..it has nothing to do with what they do..it has everything to do with who they r..and shiva is shown as a man very pure from soul ( the only thing I feel the writers have still not messed up with)..he gets angry..speaks with the most hurtful words..make her feel unwanted like trash..true..but if he was not pure from heart..he would not have even fought with her..he would have manipulated her to stay with him and possibly like him enough so that he gets the life he wants with her..not caring a thing about her wishes and dreams..

Originally posted by: mpks1

So you are confirming that they will get back together on the last day of the show😆

Until I see progress in their story, I am going to keep trolling the writers about brining them together on tje last day of the show and will say it multiple times😆

Excellent. Atleast for the sake of twist, they might get them together sooner. 😆

Originally posted by: deeps07

Atleast shiva never locked her inside a cage and hit her with ceramic and scarred her face..there is/was a show where a male (lead😡) who did that have an amar prem kadha with the victim lead..🤪..I doubt they even had a rebirth prem kadha. 🤬

All shivas issue is his childishness and rude tongue..yes he needs to learn a lot..understand his mistakes.. regret hurting her emotionally ..yes..but people do love even if the partner is a bit too difficult to understand or handle(that's the right word😆)..especially in itv,love is spiritual..it has nothing to do with what they do..it has everything to do with who they r..and shiva is shown as a man very pure from soul ( the only thing I feel the writers have still not messed up with)..he gets angry..speaks with the most hurtful words..make her feel unwanted like trash..true..but if he was not pure from heart..he would not have even fought with her..he would have manipulated her to stay with him and possibly like him enough so that he gets the life he wants with her..not caring a thing about her wishes and dreams..

@Bold: Just to defend Shiva's wrong u can't bring about that character who is called as male lead by some stupid teens. Who don't know what should be hyped and what not. I never knew just bcoz Shiva never did all this and what he is doing now makes him a better husband.

Better let's talk about good male leads why one of the worst characters of ITV.

Let's talk about Neil Khanna, Rakshit Shergill why that guy ? These were amazing without torturing or doing shit these shows and characters were loved a lot and did well in trp as well.

When Shiva regretted insulting and character assinating Raavi ? He is more interested in finding ways to insult her more and cry about his Bhabhima ka attention. We saw Raavi slapping herself and regretting her behaviour that too was reaction of Shiva's actions.

That was Shiva I loved that even after hating her he was a nice person this one who is apparently in love is worst then that one.

That was reason I loved Shiva but Shiva just keep making decisions in this relationship. All the time he takes decision ki what Raavi should know, is she is important to keep above kangan, Sorry toh bola nahi jaata bhale kitna bhi gatiyapanti karle, insulting he did in front of everyone at his house, character assination twice.

Shiva was always rude but he was never insensitive and badtameez and now he is coming out as one. Rude Shiva was atleast understandable this one doesn't make sense the way he treats Raavi.

Just my views nothing personal

Originally posted by: ValleyOfPeace

Sorry , it's hard to read and hard to reply for a msg quoted this way..its my problem pl don't take offence.

I have said enuf won't repeat anything...one thing I wanna say ,I am working on my anger management since 4 yrs . I have seen how my kids are affected due to it ..how they r beginning to react in the same way as me and how hurt I am to see this...I have learned this one thing , that if I am getting angry , something is wrong with ME , the "trigger " is not to be blamed. It's futile to blame the circumstances , environment, situation or the people ... the world won't change , duniya toh aisi hi rahegi. Duniya ki galti hai ye maan ke , we can please ourselves but it really doesn't change anything. I am also the same to people as they are to me and I am never able to break the cycle.

for me , slapping is not equal to publicly character assassinating one's wife ... Let's agree to disagree.

@deep07 , ur post was spot on ..yes , everyone deserves to be loved ..bec love is always "inspite of" , not "because of" ..we r too impatient n pass on the judgements.. let the story complete😃

Originally posted by: _charu_

Sorry , it's hard to read and hard to reply for a msg quoted this way..its my problem pl don't take offence.

I have said enuf won't repeat anything...one thing I wanna say ,I am working on my anger management since 4 yrs . I have seen how my kids are affected due to it ..how they r beginning to react in the same way as me and how hurt I am to see this...I have learned this one thing , that if I am getting angry , something is wrong with ME , the "trigger " is not to be blamed. It's futile to blame the circumstances , environment, situation or the people ... the world won't change , duniya toh aisi hi rahegi. Duniya ki galti hai ye maan ke , we can please ourselves but it really doesn't change anything. I am also the same to people as they are to me.

for me , slapping is not equal to publicly character assassinating one's wife ... Let's agree to disagree.

@deep07 , ur post was spot on ..yes , everyone deserves to be loved ..bec love is always "inspite of" , not "because of" ..we r too impatient n pass on the judgements.. let the story complete😃

None taken dear🖤🖤🌸

I wish success and happiness for u and ua kids🖤

Also u r right

Trigger is not to be blamed whether it be shiva or Raavi

And like I always say U like some ppl connect with the fact that she was humiliated by him and someone may connect with the fact that he was physically abused. In my eyes both r wrong so I want progress for both of them. But in your eyes u want progress from his side as u feel she is right. Everyone had their own POVs. So like u said lets agree to disagree.

At the end of the day, let’s remember like we always do that this Is a show and lets not let this bad writing of their characters come between us!

Hi I am Maahi... It was nice talking with you🖤

And you are Charu?

🖤🌸🌸🤍♾♾♾

Originally posted by: deeps07

That character was patethic thankfully the show finished. The fans too were ridiculous, I have ss of Insta were they were telling how great he is and how amazing chemistry is between both the leads. I said actor is good and liking him is a different thing but defending the character is wrong. But they went on telling how I don't know how to appreciate the acting, chemistry and defended saying its his childhood trauma. Nonsense character and girl was even more horrible she was classic example of badi badi baatein vada pao khaate.

Shiva deserves Raavi and vice versa. Both have been wrong it is just I have loved Shiva more, I think everybody had highest expectations from him, he is a better written character, No one thought we will see a insensitive Shiva. He was the one who asked Dev to come clean in front of Raavi and when his time came he isn't doing the same.

I understand what is he feeling and not liking the way Pandyas r treating him but I simply can't deal with way of talking. He always talked rudely with Raavi but it was never that I used to feel insulted to hear it, it is said to Raavi and I find it soo insulting to hear it.

There is not a single character which is going fine and sensibily. They have destroyed all the characters that what they say and do is not correct most of the times.

They should talk about why Shiva character assinated Raavi twice, why he insulted her on Sawan Pooja, what Raavi wants ? She is fine with Shiva saying sorry but she is never thinking why it is all happening suddenly, why she wants to continue the relationship.

The talk is only about divorce nahi hona chahiye but no one is talking about why it is happening specially now when everything was going better. But no they will talk and do all the nonsense except for what they should talk about.

if a person who was pretty decent even after being accused of everything wrong in ravis life when he was the one who stood by her for her and even saved her..turns like this after a single incident of insult from a friend...then the cause needs to be explored

When last time Rishita made fun of his clothes Raavi washed his clothes and defended him. He said he doesn't give a damn, phir ab kya ho gaya ? That time too they were married nah? It was the time Raavi wasn't pleasant with him and I was annoyed with her but that Shiva was fine with it. Ab achanak se change ho gaya samne wale ko kese pata chalega?

Raavi too needs to see Shiva as an individual not only only as a member of Pandya Family. But Shiva is crossing his limits with every passing day.

Makers r simply destroying the characters. If they think that they will get trps with negativity then they r in delusion. No one likes this type of negativity, there should be something good happening.