One thing we can agree on

Ok so while going thru some of the threads today, seems a lot of us did not like the episode, first of all due to the Sulo/Swapnil love/comedy or whatever it is, Raghav in teasing mood and the Mandhar/Pallavi creepiness.

So, I think we all pretty much figured out that the Sulo/Swapnil scenes are there as comedy fillers. Some of us dont like that and some do. Some make hot chai memes, some find it disgusting. Everyone has their own opinion and yes if roles were reversed, we would be bashing it left right center. We all agree on that for sure. Sulo is married but still eyeing another man, do we or rather do I do that as married woman, yeah....dont we watch Raghav shirtless and ogle at him, ofcourse maybe some dont, some do....so Sulo is right there in person. Will she act on it, more than likely not....and if she does, then we really are getting into total cringy territory. But we agree that it's a bit much and seems they are showing Raghav using that to his advantage. When doing the heart, Pallavi was not looking at him, the heart was done and sulo returned it. Pallavi looked at it after and then got upset. Totally understandable why she got upset, I would too if a strange man does that to me. So basically this is there as comedy relief but what the writers are not realizing is that a small percent might find it funny, but majority are not and it doesnt fit into the whole situation presently....just my opinion please feel free to add yours.

Ok second track is Raghav teasing and playing around with his wife. Remember the hospital scene which was a serious scene, he decided to trick her into thinking he had memory loss and she got all upset and then he felt bad etc. Well Raghav likes to tease her, which we all understand and a little bit the night before would have been fine but it should have ended ASAP. WHen he realized that Mandhar had something to do with the sari situation at that time as he already guessed, he should have let her know that he is there for her. She seemed so disturbed and completely not in her element and then he touched her hand while she was applying cream and she got even more upset. So what if Amruta was there, she knows what is going on with them so why couldnt he tell her infront of her? Atleast to ask how she is? He knows that Pallavi always masks her emotions and lets everyone think she is ok....but with him she is open and wouldnt he want to ask how she is? He returns to the room and never thinks about the fire or the sari burning or what actually happened and that he should find out from Pallavi what did Mandhar do. None of that came up and we all agree, all he cared about was why she didnt recognize him, and then decides to play around with her. Next day in the kitchen he is waiting for her and even then plays around, despite knowing she went thru a serious situation the night before that he still doesnt know about, but instead he is teasing her. When he collided in her, he should have said it then....do we blame him, no....we blame the writers who are not letting the scenes flow and continuity is missing as well all in the name of TRP or tadka or whatever they want to add to their DAAL.

Alright the last thing that is causing us grief is Pallavi/Mandhar. Before I continue, No one is blaming Shivangi or Pallavi. They dont have control of what is written for them to act. They go by what they are given so this is in no way against Pallavi or SHivangi, please understand that. The scene itself was out of nowhere. She was all ready in the morning but decided to take a shower again in the middle of the day...OK someone said that it could be for some reason, alright i give that she needed to shower again and wash her hair etc. Then we talked about how she came outside the bathroom to do her pleats and she never does at RR mansion, so people said wearing sari in bathroom is hard, it gets wet, and at rr mansion they have the dressing area....OK i get that but she had the whole sari on already....pleats are the last part, if it was to get wet, wouldnt it get wet while putting on the whole sari? The pleats were already in her hand, she just had to tuck them in. Why couldnt that be done in the bathroom? The writers should have thought of that. Ok then when u look at where the bathroom is, people are walking around there, Swapnil got there, Mandhar got there and Rama got there which means its a high traffic area...so why come out and do that there where you know people will be seeing you and two creeps are there. And yes, she knows Mandhar is a creep because of the way he asked her to do back massage, holds her arm while asking her to light the photo on fire and she should also remember the mangla gaur where raghav told her mandhar carried her to his room and thats where she woke up. So she should already know he has bad intentions and she knows he is obsessed with her. When he took her sari and she rebuked him, I get that she was trying to be subtle and not ruin their plan....understandable for sure and no she did not ask for it but she should be cautious. No one is saying she asked for it by standing there and doing pleats and that mandhar came there. That it was all her fault....NO....it is not her fault, she did not ask for it and I am not saying that either.....She should have been more vigilant and more cautious.........NO ONE IS BLAMING PALLAVI...The situation was such that she was scared, understandable, she was frustrated, also understandable, she was shocked, yes totally understandable and she couldnt act on that as that has never happened to her........What I am saying is that the whole scene was out of nowhere. If they really wanted to show something similar they could have shown her in the kitchen reaching for something and Mandhar comes and gets creepy, Raghav comes and sees etc and realizes things are getting out of hand. It could have been anything else like she is handing something to Mandhar and he holds her hand or whatever........just saying that the whole scene was out of place. Not Pallavi/Shivangi's fault at all. The scene they showed was just cringy yes and if they wanted to show how handsy Mandhar is they could have done it differently. The bathroom scene was just thrown in, in the midst of the day to get Raghav to realize he has to tell her the truth and stop playing around.

Just so everyone knows........my stance is and will always be that first of all women are not at fault when they are assaulted etc. just because of how they dress or act etc. Regardless of how they dress, Men should respect women at all times. Here I am not blaming Pallavi in any way....the scene was not right that's what i am saying. The writers and cvs need to take a look at how they are showing the scenes and how logical it is. Yes ITV has no logic, i get that, but sometimes u need it.

Ok that's it....PEACE OUT!

Feel free to add your views...agree, disagree....its all good...we can all agree on one thing...the episode was not up to par and the scenes could have been done differently. The actors are doing a bang on job trying to keep up with what they are being thrown. I love both Shivangi and Sai, so I am not blaming them in any way and neither am I blaming Raghav or Pallavi. The writers are butchering the characters.

The writers are butchering the characters.

i rest my case nothing more to say u wrote it all 👏

Originally posted by: rs-shailu29

The writers are butchering the characters.

i rest my case nothing more to say u wrote it all 👏

Yes, that's what everyone needs to understand. We are missing logic here and writers are butchering the characters and the scenes are out of nowhere. The same scene could have been shown in a much more logical way.

Originally posted by: farheenbachani

Yes, that's what everyone needs to understand. We are missing logic here and writers are butchering the characters and the scenes are out of nowhere. The same scene could have been shown in a much more logical way.

no more debate from my side

let ppl enjoy this shitty script hum sirf ignore karenge

I get what you are saying here. The Pallavi-Mandhaar scene was out of place. I believe they have shown enough for viewers to know Mandhaar is a creep and Raghav has other opportunities to be a hero so showing such a triggering scene was quite pointless. Even if they did want to show it, they could have put more thought into it. Pallavi doing her saree outside makes no sense because she hasn't before.

I feel like the makers have used some questionable ways to add comedy to the show, with one being Sulo/Swapnil and the other Maa da ladla/double track. I personally don't like it.

Raghav not telling Pallavi and teasing her instead was also to add their tadka.

In fact I'm positive they could have wrapped up everything earlier if they hadn't wanted to add tadka.

I feel like writers may have had issue with charting the plot as they made some changes but hopefully they put more thought into scenes and show some logic.

Originally posted by: hapc

I get what you are saying here. The Pallavi-Mandhaar scene was out of place. I believe they have shown enough for viewers to know Mandhaar is a creep and Raghav has other opportunities to be a hero so showing such a triggering scene was quite pointless. Even if they did want to show it, they could have put more thought into it. Pallavi doing her saree outside makes no sense because she hasn't before.

I feel like the makers have used some questionable ways to add comedy to the show, with one being Sulo/Swapnil and the other Maa da ladla/double track. I personally don't like it.

Raghav not telling Pallavi and teasing her instead was also to add their tadka.

In fact I'm positive they could have wrapped up everything earlier if they hadn't wanted to add tadka.

I feel like writers may have had issue with charting the plot as they made some changes but hopefully they put more thought into scenes and show some logic.

That's what I tried to say in another post but got bashed that I blamed Pallavi. Arre yaar, why would I blame Pallavi....I blame the writers, i was trying to say that the scene was out of nowhere....totally no logic to it.

And yes you get what i mean, she never does her sari outside, so why at d house? someone said oh bcoz they have room at rr house and at d house it would get wet so does that mean all these days she has been showering and doing her sari outside the bathroom?

We all get that Mandhar is a creep since the back massage. Was this scene really needed? maybe for Raghav to wake up and smell the coffee but could have been done differently, a way that flowed with the scenes and situation going on.

Today Saree plate scene not good. Is Mr Sandeep Sikcand coming on line? If any body can tell about this scene. International viewers are watching this show, doesn't look good. Keep RaghVi together

Thanks for the justification from the other side

But if pallavi is not at fault there is no scope for "but". There should be full-stop. There shouldn't be she should have been careful, she should have done this that. It's victim blaming again.

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

Thanks for the justification from the other side

But if pallavi is not at fault there is no scope for "but". There should be full-stop. There shouldn't be she should have been careful, she should have done this that. It's victim blaming again.

I am not victim blaming Pallavi. Im blaming the scene itself. The choice of that scene. It was not logical. She knows there are two creepy men in the house. To come out in open while doing her sari pleat is not ok. She might have done that before but would u come out doing your pleats while someone in the house has made advances at you before? I dont even do sari pleats around my brother or brother in law let alone a stranger.

The writers did not use logic when creating that scene. That same scene might have worked had she been in the kitchen doing something and mandhar advanced on her etc as it woukd have flowed better with the situation.

Im not disagreeing with you, im saying the scene could have been different. The eay the scene was, the situation that presented was not logical. Nothing to do with Pallavi or the harrassment or anything of that sort.

Originally posted by: farheenbachani

That's what I tried to say in another post but got bashed that I blamed Pallavi. Arre yaar, why would I blame Pallavi....I blame the writers, i was trying to say that the scene was out of nowhere....totally no logic to it.

And yes you get what i mean, she never does her sari outside, so why at d house? someone said oh bcoz they have room at rr house and at d house it would get wet so does that mean all these days she has been showering and doing her sari outside the bathroom?

We all get that Mandhar is a creep since the back massage. Was this scene really needed? maybe for Raghav to wake up and smell the coffee but could have been done differently, a way that flowed with the scenes and situation going on.

Anything you say it becomes Gender biased in this show. Where were these people when Pallavi allowed Raghav getting Shamed for Amruta's pregnancy?

Enjoy a Show and STOP BLAMING PPL BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIKING A CHARACTER IN A CERTAIN TRACK.

No one wanted to see a Rape or molestation episode, No one wants that, People meant Pallavi (THE 'FICTION' CHARACTER) was acting Dumb and Totally Ignoring Her Husband for A Creep and since she wasn't listening to any logical reason the only thing that would have opened her eyes were him getting to his lowest, Which he did eventually.

Go and Blame the creatives, No one Trended ki Molestation dikhao ya creepiness dikhao. You Ppl had Faith on CVs jb ManVi scenes aa rahe the toh ab bhi rakho faith.

And These r the same people who r bashing Raghav calling him dumb and asking him to get prove against Mandar ?? Whyyyyy ?? Why can't A Woman stand up for herself ? Ab kyu sochna ki Aurat ko Mard ki zarurat hai🤪

Har chiz me gender ghusa denge.

Raghav is also playing as per the script like Pallavi was doing, Itne understanding ho toh Raghav ko bhi understand karo.

It's not his job to clear Deshmukh's sh** all the time.

And Again, I am not BLAMING OR SHAMING PALLAVI. That was a Track in which she behaved dumb and got bashed, now the track has moved on and People will eventually forget everything, next track if Raghav gets butchered he will get the bashing, You do not need to make 100s of post targeting members personally and Judging them saying they wanted Molestation. Seriously ??

Also, The people who understood TRP so much that Pallavi Mandu ka hug n all TRP layega so the Comic Relief is also for TRP not everyone wants to watch Hypertension show everytime.

This out of the way, and character butchering was the only thing people were discussing when the track made Pallavi a scape goat.