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Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Lovely analysis. This is what bugs me about Sai. On one side she's so comfortable with his intimacy and on the other she keeps on ranting about the deal. If this is a deal then it's better she stays away from him or if she's so comfortable with him then why to lash out at Virat who's her husband? If she wants to be loved then show him and give him that same kind of love. I have mentioned this in my earlier post too. Virat should leave her alone. Stop running behind her and let her realise his importance in her life.

Hmm, what happened today was really heartbreaking🥺

I was thinking, is too much disturbance by external factors a cause of this as well. Cuz, they hardly got their me time . It's always something or the other, either commits a mistake, and yes, it is not only Virat, some incidents do have Sai at wrong place as well, and they have to pass a rough phase, and they get very less time to heal. Sai refuses, but some of her actions do show she also has accepted her role as wife as well, but not agreeing it 🤔

But, they are hardly allowed to be in that only us phase, you know, very much interference by everyone. Koyi bhi aake comment kar deta hai unpar, anyone can threaten their relation. That is one part why I wanted Sai to go to PD ka ghar for atleast a day, like you, me and Ray discussed that day.

But, Sairat truly are suffering a lot 🥺

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Lovely analysis. This is what bugs me about Sai. On one side she's so comfortable with his intimacy and on the other she keeps on ranting about the deal. If this is a deal then it's better she stays away from him or if she's so comfortable with him then why to lash out at Virat who's her husband? If she wants to be loved then show him and give him that same kind of love. I have mentioned this in my earlier post too. Virat should leave her alone. Stop running behind her and let her realise his importance in her life.

Same thoughts. What I felt she needs to be more observant of her own behaviour than Virat. She should rethink why she isn't feeling awkward with his touch..

Other than that it's natural thing to happen for any couple. There are physical needs.. But the question is whether you allow it or not.. Mental intimacy leads to physical intimacy .

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Hmm, what happened today was really heartbreaking🥺

I was thinking, is too much disturbance by external factors a cause of this as well. Cuz, they hardly got their me time . It's always something or the other, either commits a mistake, and yes, it is not only Virat, some incidents do have Sai at wrong place as well, and they have to pass a rough phase, and they get very less time to heal. Sai refuses, but some of her actions do show she also has accepted her role as wife as well, but not agreeing it 🤔

But, they are hardly allowed to be in that only us phase, you know, very much interference by everyone. Koyi bhi aake comment kar deta hai unpar, anyone can threaten their relation. That is one part why I wanted Sai to go to PD ka ghar for atleast a day, like you, me and Ray discussed that day.

But, Sairat truly are suffering a lot 🥺

Yes, agree. Both SaiRat are at fault but Virat doesn't wash dirty linen in public unlike Sai. My problem is why does Sai have to share their life with others? For instance, she has almost everyone that their marriage is a deal , Virat is doing a favour and likes to return the favour . At times she orders Virat as if she's his wife and the other times she claims the marriage to be a deal. When Virat was leaving for his second mission she said that now I'm a policeman's wife and so I have to be strong and says that as his wife she wants something from him and asks him to call her. If she has accepted him as a husband why is she creating unnecessary drama? What is she trying to prove by ignoring his advances and the relation?

Orange - In all of this both SaiRat are suffering. I just hope after the confession we and SaiRat get some peace. Or better still the makers change the story.

Originally posted by: Shaome

Same thoughts. What I felt she needs to be more observant of her own behaviour than Virat. She should rethink why she isn't feeling awkward with his touch..

Other than that it's natural thing to happen for any couple. There are physical needs.. But the question is whether you allow it or not.. Mental intimacy leads to physical intimacy .

Yes, true. I guess since Sai is so comfortable with Virat he surprised her for the anniversary. In the beginning of their marriage he had never done this, but now he's trying to get closer because he can see her comfort with him. Virat hasn't and never will cross his limits.

Originally posted by: fatssrilanka

Yes, agree. Both SaiRat are at fault but Virat doesn't wash dirty linen in public unlike Sai. My problem is why does Sai have to share their life with others? For instance, she has almost everyone that their marriage is a deal , Virat is doing a favour and likes to return the favour . At times she orders Virat as if she's his wife and the other times she claims the marriage to be a deal. When Virat was leaving for his second mission she said that now I'm a policeman's wife and so I have to be strong and says that as his wife she wants something from him and asks him to call her. If she has accepted him as a husband why is she creating unnecessary drama? What is she trying to prove by ignoring his advances and the relation?

Orange - In all of this both SaiRat are suffering. I just hope after the confession we and SaiRat get some peace. Or better still the makers change the story.

Exactly, as I said, some of her actions clearly show her heart has accepted that she is the wife.

But, her hurt is also something very relatable. Can't deny that. Being for Sairat, I just can't help but to connect with them both at every point 🥺

But she needs to stop paying attention to everyone I guess, just let it be them. Not even Pakhi . She just needs to create an alternate wall which should block all others. Maybe that would be a better option for now. You know, throw the words of world into thin air😊

Originally posted by: ShipIsSailing

Brilliant questions.

First of all, no it isn't right for Sai to do so. The things is, and it goes for both Virat and Sai, there are several things they do when it comes to their relationship that wouldn't exactly be considered right, but the correct word to use here is understandable. Sai's behaviour isn't right, it is understandable. And understanding the character is something which should be done in every case, be it Sai, Virat or Pakhi.

Now, the reason why Pakhi is criticized for acting like a delusional or psycho is because Virat had already cleared it to her that he is not interestedin her anymore and that he loves Sai, but she still pines after him.

There are various reasons because of which Pakhi is considered wrong and not Sai. First of all, she is married and she wants to be with someone who is also married, but I can ignore this, because I can understand that her husband is not there for her and unpopular opinion, but of course at her situation she would crave someone's love. She is also human afterall. But the problem is not that she loves Virat, the problem is that she forces Virat to love her back, the problem is that using her love as her defence, she hates Sai and use every opportunity to mentally harass her.

Pakhi and Sai's situation are really different, both of them are in an unwanted relationship but here Sai was actually forced to marry Virat by the villagers whereas Pakhi was never forced to do anything. Here, both Sai and Virat had to marry each other knowing full well the boundaries of their relation, but Pakhi, in her fully conscious mind married Samrat to be close to his brother, without even once thinking of his feelings, and now, she blames Virat for him.

Here, you can point out that even Sai blames Virat for their situation, or even Sai doesn't care about Virat's feelings. But, Sai doesn't blame Virat for their marriage, she blames him when he tries to remove the line which they drew in their relationship, when he tries to break down the walls she so carefully built around herself. And it isn't as if Sai doesn't care about Virat's feelings. She did everything he ever asked her to do to make sure she doesn't hurt his family, which would hurt him. So, she tried to make peace with Pakhi, tried to make pace with his family. But Pakhi on the other hand, she never cared about anyone's feelings except her own, not even Virat's. While Sai understood that hurting Pakhi might hurt Virat's feelings, Pakhi never understood how much she hurt Virat whenever she tries to wrong Sai.

This is why Pakhi is delusional. Because she says that she loves Virat, but she never actually thinks about his emotions and his feelings. Everything she ever does feels like a list that she is checking off. How to impress a boy: Impress his family. Check. But impress only those who are actually in power here and never those who remain silent but actually care about him. Think about his wellbeing. Check. But only when it is easier for her to show her care in front of him, not when he actually needs it. Think about his brother and show how much of a good wife she is. Check, but only when it is to gain his attention, otherwise ignore him and ignore his mother especially at a time when she will need her the most.

Everything Pakhi does is to gain Virat's attention and not by her own good intentions or not because she cares for him. Sai, on the other hand, even now, is thinking about everyone's feelings, even Pakhi's. She knows that loving Virat is not easy for her,and she knows that there is a huge possibility that in her attempt to love him she might wrong Pakhi.

So, yes, it does matter if Sai is hurt in the process. Because at the end of the day, she tries to help everyone, she loves everyone, she gives every relationship her everything. Just that this one time, she is unable to do so because she put her own heart above Virat's, because just this one time she wanted to protect herself.

And tbh, to some extent, this is the same case with Virat too.

To be honest ma'am i dont see much difference in sai and pakhi's situations.

Pakhi is in most situations simply cruel and there is simply no other way around it. She seems to work on the principle of "if i am miserable i will make everyone else miserable too".

I do admit and accept that pakhi and sai have different intentions. Sai has never had any malicious intentions towards anyone in general and pakhi has never had any positive intentions for anyone.

But the word i will use for pakhi here is cruel and not necessarily "delusional" since the way pakhi and sai are behaving in that aspect is similar. I would define delusion as holding beliefs that are often contradicted by the reality of situations and right now sai is holding onto her belief that virat hasnt moved past his notorious "vaada" even when it has been contradicted by virat's actions and words often.

Sai may ofcourse be just trying to protect herself from hurt and anguish but she is making virat a collateral damage here.

Virat here is a man of patience and is much more mature than someone sai's age. Sai would have been called out for her behavior very very early in a much more harsh way had she been like this with someone closer to her age.

Being physically intimate with someone one moment and acting all indifferent and rude the very next moment is called being hot and cold and giving signals to the boy and playing hard to get.

I do understand sai's situation to a large extent but her being a willing participant in all their physical intimacy moments and then rejecting the changing dynamics between them just simply cannot be justified by the garb of being a 19 yr old teenager or the explanation of her trying to protect herself or getting lost in the moment.

All the points you have mentioned about pakhi are entirely true but i will classify them under the category of selfishness, cruelty and being a horrible person in general.

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Exactly, as I said, some of her actions clearly show her heart has accepted that she is the wife.

But, her hurt is also something very relatable. Can't deny that. Being for Sairat, I just can't help but to connect with them both at every point 🥺

But she needs to stop paying attention to everyone I guess, just let it be them. Not even Pakhi . She just needs to create an alternate wall which should block all others. Maybe that would be a better option for now. You know, throw the words of world into thin air😊

I understand her pain, but at the same I can't ignore Virat's pain too. She doesn't need to give importance to anyone who doesn't know. Alongwith Pakhi why does she pay attention to others as well. She didn't know Virat's yoga teacher. When she was blabbering she could have just ignored her. This is quite natural. I mean breakups do happen in real life too and we might come across people who we met in the past relation. It was same here as well. The yoga teacher remembered both Virat and Pakhi and must have thought to be married. But, then Virat introduced Sai as his wife. She got so worked up that she overeacted and over analysed the whole thing. So, it's better that she ignores those who don't exist for her.

Originally posted by: chenjulia110

To be honest ma'am i dont see much difference in sai and pakhi's situations.

Pakhi is in most situations simply cruel and there is simply no other way around it. She seems to work on the principle of "if i am miserable i will make everyone else miserable too".

I do admit and accept that pakhi and sai have different intentions. Sai has never had any malicious intentions towards anyone in general and pakhi has never had any positive intentions for anyone.

But the word i will use for pakhi here is cruel and not necessarily "delusional" since the way pakhi and sai are behaving in that aspect is similar. I would define delusion as holding beliefs that are often contradicted by the reality of situations and right now sai is holding onto her belief that virat hasnt moved past his notorious "vaada" even when it has been contradicted by virat's actions and words often.

Sai may ofcourse be just trying to protect herself from hurt and anguish but she is making virat a collateral damage here.

Virat here is a man of patience and is much more mature than someone sai's age. Sai would have been called out for her behavior very very early in a much more harsh way had she been like this with someone closer to her age.

Being physically intimate with someone one moment and acting all indifferent and rude the very next moment is called being hot and cold and giving signals to the boy and playing hard to get.

I do understand sai's situation to a large extent but her being a willing participant in all their physical intimacy moments and then rejecting the changing dynamics between them just simply cannot be justified by the garb of being a 19 yr old teenager or the explanation of her trying to protect herself or getting lost in the moment.

All the points you have mentioned about pakhi are entirely true but i will classify them under the category of selfishness, cruelty and being a horrible person in general.

No, they cannot be justified by her age. But they can be understood because it is just one thing where she goes wrong. I think a person who does so much for so many, and who tries so hard deserves to be understood once or twice.

And tbh this is my thoughts for Virat too when he goes wrong.

Virat, of course doesn't deserve this. But right now I am trying to figure Sai out, and imo she does deserve to be excused.

Originally posted by: Shristhi2002

Pls aap mereko ma'am math bulaiye🤣 Sachme, Shristhi is very much okay with me🤗

I didn't think of this way actually 🤔🤔

Well, I felt very bad for Virat today, but was also trying to reason by Sai's behaviour 🥺

True, Sai maybe also running away from the truth, your questions are really good❤️

But if have to reason I feel (not defending, I am a neutral person, so just trying to figure out the answers), she here is also unaware of the total truth unlike Pakhi.

Sai's actions are based on the incidents which happened with only her, but she is unaware of what happened in yoga retreat. But Pakhi knows every angle of the story right. Cuz she was present and part of every major incident.

Toh, now we have Sai's love for the words spoken on the wedding day, like no expectations wala. There have always been gradual let's say up's and down's equally in the realtionship making Sai go and be motile just around the words, like a good thing made her progress, and some wrong actions and words made her leap back.

In this incident, Let's say a part of story is told to Sai, like the yoga retreat one , she now has two versions, one the lady who met them at the lover's point and one is sunny bhaiya. But, the one which Sai leaning towards more is that lady ka truth. Cuz, Sai's observations with reagrding to Pakhi has made her think so, certain incidents make her think so and she has misplaced the words so that it fits this angle. So, it's all situational. But, if she was clarified certain matters far earlier, maybe this wouldn't have happened. Maybe.. Sai feels there isn't an option called "let's give a chance" here. Cuz, that is what Virat indirectly had refused to that wedding day maybe is her debate.

And Pakhi is sort of rejecting the chance, she was asked to moved on. That was the plot of the vaada right, that Pakhi should move on whereas he won't. And Sai was restricted to even invest anything in this realtion, so seeing that way, Sai and Virat are struggling cuz this is something which was not expected for either of them, but Pakhi wasn't restricted unlike Sairat had to put themselves through. 🤔🤔

Wish, I wish I could rewind and delete those words🤣

So, just tried reasoning this with the question, not defending of offending anyone, sorry if you had felt bad with this or previous post. But, today was really heartbreaking w.r.t. Virat, so was just trying to reason with Sai ka behaviour.

And pls, don't call me mam🤣

I am sorry if calling you ma'am has offended you 😅. I just didnt wish to come off as agressive in my tone since that is kind of what happened the last time i got into a debate on the forum.

I agree with you that sai hasnt seen everything that we as audience did. And in a way i do realise where sai is coming from (and tbh if some stranger came and told me that my husband had amazing chemistry with his ex i would have been in a fury too) but what escaped my understanding is why everyone seems to think that sai doesnt understand physical intimacy or is maybe in a way lost in the moment whenever that happens.

Sai is a grown up adult and knows what the physical intimacy between a man and a wife means. Sai as a character has always been shown as someone who will stand by her principles no matter who opposes her. I fail to see how and why she would allow virat to be soo close to her when she thinks he is in love with someone else.

Does she think of virat as some kind of horny beast that will proclaim his love for pakhi but will satisfy himself with sai?

Once or twice being lost in the moment would have made sense but that happening over and over doesnt.

In my opinion virat being verbal about it would certainly help matters but sai is in a complete denial mode right now. I doubt if she would even believe him if he says that the vaada no longer stands true and will probably say something along the lines of "aap yeh sab mujhpr taras kha kr kr rhe hain na virat sir". The only solution i can see here is for virat to back off and let her handle her mess of emotions in her own merry time.

Originally posted by: chenjulia110

I am sorry if calling you ma'am has offended you 😅. I just didnt wish to come off as agressive in my tone since that is kind of what happened the last time i got into a debate on the forum.

I agree with you that sai hasnt seen everything that we as audience did. And in a way i do realise where sai is coming from (and tbh if some stranger came and told me that my husband had amazing chemistry with his ex i would have been in a fury too) but what escaped my understanding is why everyone seems to think that sai doesnt understand physical intimacy or is maybe in a way lost in the moment whenever that happens.

Sai is a grown up adult and knows what the physical intimacy between a man and a wife means. Sai as a character has always been shown as someone who will stand by her principles no matter who opposes her. I fail to see how and why she would allow virat to be soo close to her when she thinks he is in love with someone else.

Does she think of virat as some kind of horny beast that will proclaim his love for pakhi but will satisfy himself with sai?

Once or twice being lost in the moment would have made sense but that happening over and over doesnt.

In my opinion virat being verbal about it would certainly help matters but sai is in a complete denial mode right now. I doubt if she would even believe him if he says that the vaada no longer stands true and will probably say something along the lines of "aap yeh sab mujhpr taras kha kr kr rhe hain na virat sir". The only solution i can see here is for virat to back off and let her handle her mess of emotions in her own merry time.

You know, aap bohoth accha likhti hai. I mean, your points are really intriguing ❤️ And I am honest. 👍🏼

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No no, I like to see and understand POVs❤️ I am open to all😆 And you didn't seem aggressive to me, I just got the old feeling with ma'am , I am still young know🤣

So Shristhi is okay❤️