Honeymoon..... nahi , the Kaandmoon begins! 🙈

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So bk's logic fails me.

She seemed chill about Sairat going but wanted pp to go with them supposedly coz she must feel lonely without her husband. So how does she think going on a trip with a couple will make her feel?! Like is bk really so dense?! And does she really think that in an official trip random people can join in?!

Ridiculous. I dont understand why they keep on doing this. How stupid is she?!

I'm glad that scene was cut kinda abruptly. For a change zillat arena got cut just like Sairat hugs do- suddenly!

I wish virat would have retorted to pp when she is taunting Sai. He doesn't need to be mean or stretch the issue but why is back to only making faces n not saying anything. I understand he wants to just end the topic but ek toh line boldeta voh pp ko. Maybe even just a thank you to mock her in response to her Happy Honeymoon comment.

The Sairat car scene beginning is ♥️ firstly both look stunning. sais hairstyle is SO pretty. The red suits her. The outfit isnt amazing but Sai looks stunning in it. sai's expression even enjoying fake Mahabaleshwar is SO legit. She really has a twinkle, a shine in her eye. Ayesha has emoted the scene as if she really was in Mahabaleshwar for the first time.

Even a cab driver can tell that they are a couple in love♥️ buss ab Sai ko bhi samajh aaye.

But today it occured to me- ki Kitnaaaa insecure aur scared hogi voh ki she guards her heart so much....

I thought it was a profound moment when Sai brings up pp in the cab, virat says forget her, and Sai says- I'll forget but kya aap bhul paayenge.

But today virat finally took a break from his jalebi for a teeny moment and said- you are here with me, not pp so doesn't this prove who has more ehmiyat in my life....

But i think Sai didnt register it. I'm not sure why she didnt. Because this is the most direct thing Virat can do, iss seh zyaada toh Virat seh na ho paayega.

Sai is in full detective mode, and Virat is saying multiple little lies to hide the first one.

Sai is really bothered by the references to this being a honeymoon by pp, Shivani bua , cab driver, etc.. As much as she is excited n happy about the trip, likes being with Virat, she is not ready to accept that Virat will love her. Because accepting that means asking a whole lot of questions - why did he make that promise to pp, is it so easy for him to fall in and out of love, what if he is only labeling his pity/his habituation as love- that will break her....i wish we could get a Sai monologue about why she is not ready to accept her own love or see Virats actions as love.

She keeps saying that all he does for her are favors and she is his zimmedari n i think Virat being hesitant to get into an argument about their relationship status n clearing it out- and not necessarily correcting her and saying point blank that this shaadi is real, accept that its real is definitely going to impact them.

I love how real this scene was- where Sai asks him to collect receipt for cab ride for refund n then when virat refuses she like a typical wife grumbles that- n you of all ppl give me a lecture about savings. That got Virat to smile n me too.

I really want to hear Sai's inner thoughts. After watching so many episodes as audience perhaps many of us can guess or understand why she is SO hesitant, so guarded, but I still want to see her vulnerability....i want her to express it. Ayesha will kill it if she gets an emotional scene like that to speak about her reservations, her fears n insecurities....

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

So bk's logic fails me.

She seemed chill about Sairat going but wanted pp to go with them supposedly coz she must feel lonely without her husband. So how does she think going on a trip with a couple will make her feel?! Like is bk really so dense?! And does she really think that in an official trip random people can join in?!

Ridiculous. I dont understand why they keep on doing this. How stupid is she?!

I'm glad that scene was cut kinda abruptly. For a change zillat arena got cut just like Sairat hugs do- suddenly!

I wish virat would have retorted to pp when she is taunting Sai. He doesn't need to be mean or stretch the issue but why is back to only making faces n not saying anything. I understand he wants to just end the topic but ek toh line boldeta voh pp ko. Maybe even just a thank you to mock her in response to her Happy Honeymoon comment.

The Sairat car scene beginning is ♥️ firstly both look stunning. sais hairstyle is SO pretty. The red suits her. The outfit isnt amazing but Sai looks stunning in it. sai's expression even enjoying fake Mahabaleshwar is SO legit. She really has a twinkle, a shine in her eye. Ayesha has emoted the scene as if she really was in Mahabaleshwar for the first time.

Even a cab driver can tell that they are a couple in love♥️ buss ab Sai ko bhi samajh aaye.

But today it occured to me- ki Kitnaaaa insecure aur scared hogi voh ki she guards her heart so much....

I thought it was a profound moment when Sai brings up pp in the cab, virat says forget her, and Sai says- I'll forget but kya aap bhul paayenge.

But today virat finally took a break from his jalebi for a teeny moment and said- you are here with me, not pp so doesn't this prove who has more ehmiyat in my life....

But i think Sai didnt register it. I'm not sure why she didnt. Because this is the most direct thing Virat can do, iss seh zyaada toh Virat seh na ho paayega.

Sai is in full detective mode, and Virat is saying multiple little lies to hide the first one.

Sai is really bothered by the references to this being a honeymoon by pp, Shivani bua , cab driver, etc.. As much as she is excited n happy about the trip, likes being with Virat, she is not ready to accept that Virat will love her. Because accepting that means asking a whole lot of questions - why did he make that promise to pp, is it so easy for him to fall in and out of love, what if he is only labeling his pity/his habituation as love- that will break her....i wish we could get a Sai monologue about why she is not ready to accept her own love or see Virats actions as love.

She keeps saying that all he does for her are favors and she is his zimmedari n i think Virat being hesitant to get into an argument about their relationship status n clearing it out- and not necessarily correcting her and saying point blank that this shaadi is real, accept that its real is definitely going to impact them.

I love how real this scene was- where Sai asks him to collect receipt for cab ride for refund n then when virat refuses she like a typical wife grumbles that- n you of all ppl give me a lecture about savings. That got Virat to smile n me too.

I really want to hear Sai's inner thoughts. After watching so many episodes as audience perhaps many of us can guess or understand why she is SO hesitant, so guarded, but I still want to see her vulnerability....i want her to express it. Ayesha will kill it if she gets an emotional scene like that to speak about her reservations, her fears n insecurities....


Nice analysis neerja.

@bold


this is precisely why I think virat avoids confession. So many questions he will have to answer. He will have answers but will he be able to convince her with those? Sai is not easy to convince when she gives so much importance to his initial commitment words…so it is better she seeks her answers in his love towards her!!


Seeking yourself the answers is a Tiring and time consuming process but when you discover your answers, they are clear! So it is now Sai’s turn to figure out why virat does what he does for sai. It is zimmedari also, but not limited to it.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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But today virat finally took a break from his jalebi for a teeny moment and said- you are here with me, not pp so doesn't this prove who has more ehmiyat in my life....


@bold: Not enough! Why say who has more ehmiyat in his life? It means PP still has a place in his life. There will be comparisons. Why not say PP has NO ehmiyat in his life any more??? He cld easily have said that without having to make a full fleged confession. This is what I detest, that Virat always manages to leave a foot in the foor for PP. Biwi ko hig karo toh side mein PP ka haath thamo. Biwi ko ehmiyat do toh sude mein PP ko kuch kam ehmiyat do.


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Originally posted by: Bana

But today virat finally took a break from his jalebi for a teeny moment and said- you are here with me, not pp so doesn't this prove who has more ehmiyat in my life....


@bold: Not enough! Why say who has more ehmiyat in his life? It means PP still has a place in his life. There will be comparisons. Why not say PP has NO ehmiyat in his life any more??? He cld easily have said that without having to make a full fleged confession. This is what I detest, that Virat always manages to leave a foot in the foor for PP. Biwi ko hig karo toh side mein PP ka haath thamo. Biwi ko ehmiyat do toh sude mein PP ko kuch kam ehmiyat do.


definitely Agree. It would have been much better if he said pp had NO ehmiyat. This is exactly why Sai is guarding herself from accepting his actions as more than zimmedari. Because he is not consistent. Because she feels that his soft corner for pp will never go. And as a wife that makes her insecure n rightfully so.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Lovely post Neerja ❤️

I didn't actually mind the zillat arena today. Sai's dialogues made a lot of sense to me, and I understood where she was coming from. She already knew this would happen when Virat was asking her to go on the trip with him. And, she is still traumatized by what happened to the Ladhak trip. It seemed to me that she was just trying to calm everyone down and assure them that it's an official trip, because she knows that they won't like it if it is anything else. Unlike Pakhi, she actually cares about family and their sentiments. Despite how she was toning it down, it was clear the second they got into the cab how excited she was to be there with Virat. Even in yesterday's episode, she was getting nervous jittery at the thought of the trip. And, she basically told Kaku that Pakhi can't come because it's an official trip...she wants to be alone with her ACP too.

Today Pakhi described Sai in a nutshell. There is something else going on in her heart, but she says something entirely different. When Shivani bua was teasing Sai, she nervously looked at Virat. She is realizing her feelings for Virat, but due to her lingering insecurities and desire for Virat to make this relationship clear, she is hesitant to let herself fall completely and accept her own emotions.

And the episode once again showed how Pakhi's outbursts affect Sai. All of these taunts and indirect jabs are a huge reason as to why Sai cannot let go of Virat and Pakhi's past. A part of her sees that Virat has moved on, but every time Pakhi does one of these tamashas, she is reminded of the "reality." Sai's painful glance at Virat after Pakhi said happy honeymoon spoke volumes. Again, she wanted it to be real, but this entire interaction with Pakhi was making her think otherwise...

I liked how Virat asked Sai to let it go rather than Pakhi. His rights are on Sai, and he also knows she is the bigger person. He did not even want to engage with Pakhi today. I loved his disgusted looks though.

The cab scene was absolutely beautiful. Both of them were GLOWING. When Sai says the scenery is pretty and Virat agrees, he is clearly talking about her. Loved that moment. Also, we are seeing how comfortable Sai is with him more and more... I loved how she grabbed his arm to get him to look outside of the window.

The taxi driver was hilarious and I thought he added some much needed comedy before we enter the kaand in the upcoming days. In terms of Sai revealing their relationship to him... she kept glancing at Virat and her expressions once again showed that she is waiting for him to clear it up. It is insecurities, but it is also a desire for Virat to confirm her feelings. When she asked Virat if he will be able to forget Pakhi, my heart really did break for her. Because despite everything she is seeing from him and feeling for him, the past is not so easily forgotten...especially when she does not even know that what Virat and Pakhi had was a 2 day infatuation on Virat's end. By now, it should be clear to Virat how much the zimidari vaada impacts Sai. Today, he took a step forward by clearly saying that he cares about her more than Pakhi, because she is the one here on the trip with him. But, leaving the confession aside, he really needs to explicitly tell her what's up... both of them have a hard time looking at situations from each other's perspective, and to him, since there is no vaada anymore, he has trouble understanding why Sai is still hung up on it. The closest he came to clearing it all up was after the ring gifting, but of course Pakhi was outside their door and interrupted what could have been a groundbreaking conversation.

I'm really hoping that we get some nice SaiRat moments before Samrat's entry... I'm scared by how fast the pace is moving...

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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I understand as a viewer why Virat is not engaging with pp n is talking to Sai. He feels a haq on her. But Sai doesn't. She will sense his ambivalence. He may have said she's "more" important than pp but as Bana pointed out- to Sai that suggests that pp still has some importance. And Sai thinks she only matters "more" because she is the zimmedari, the orphan who has no one but him, the person he thinks is immature n needs direction, the not yet financially independent one, the one he feels guilty about because he crossed lines ....but if all that is out of the equation, in Sai's eyes the first love, the tragically separated yet "eternal" love is virat-pp. She knows nothing about the fact that its only an infatuation, nor does she feel that pp is inconsequential to him. So i understand where she's coming from. But I want to see it play out as her dialogues- a monologue or her breakdown, or talking about it with shivani/aai/pulkit. And at some point i want Virat to hear it or understand why she is not seeing his love. Why she distances herself. Why she builds up her walls.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl


Nice analysis neerja.

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this is precisely why I think virat avoids confession. So many questions he will have to answer. He will have answers but will he be able to convince her with those? Sai is not easy to convince when she gives so much importance to his initial commitment words…so it is better she seeks her answers in his love towards her!!


Seeking yourself the answers is a Tiring and time consuming process but when you discover your answers, they are clear! So it is now Sai’s turn to figure out why virat does what he does for sai. It is zimmedari also, but not limited to it.

I agree. Virat would never be able to convince her with his answers and he is someone who could not say things with clarity.

I agree with what Bana said. There is always a tiny part of place left for Didi which makes his answers ambiguous. I don’t blame Virat for that. He is an introvert who never interacted much verbally except with Sunny.

So better for Sai to search for her answers like you said. It may take time but the end result will make the process worth living. I wish that moment arrives soon.

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I haven't watched the episode yet. But in the beginning of ur post u said how can bk be so dense. But isn't Sai being so dense too?! Cant she realise after so many things said by Virat - he even told her that he wants this shaadi to be a real one. How can she still be stuck in the zimmedari world even after so much has transpired - a near death and back to square one!! Why did she even return to CN if she was just his zimmedari. And zimmedari has to get over after her medical studies anyways. She shud hv stuck to her decision of going to Pulkits or shud hv stayed at hostel. I cant take it she is still stuck there. If she wants to guard her heart she wud be most welcome but after moving out of CN. Not after causing more damage to both her and Virat!😡.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91


Sai is really bothered by the references to this being a honeymoon by pp, Shivani bua , cab driver, etc.. As much as she is excited n happy about the trip, likes being with Virat, she is not ready to accept that Virat will love her. Because accepting that means asking a whole lot of questions - why did he make that promise to pp, is it so easy for him to fall in and out of love, what if he is only labeling his pity/his habituation as love- that will break her....i wish we could get a Sai monologue about why she is not ready to accept her own love or see Virats actions as love.

She keeps saying that all he does for her are favors and she is his zimmedari n i think Virat being hesitant to get into an argument about their relationship status n clearing it out- and not necessarily correcting her and saying point blank that this shaadi is real, accept that its real is definitely going to impact them.

I really want to hear Sai's inner thoughts. After watching so many episodes as audience perhaps many of us can guess or understand why she is SO hesitant, so guarded, but I still want to see her vulnerability....i want her to express it. Ayesha will kill it if she gets an emotional scene like that to speak about her reservations, her fears n insecurities....

Originally posted by: sadiltl


this is precisely why I think virat avoids confession. So many questions he will have to answer. He will have answers but will he be able to convince her with those? Sai is not easy to convince when she gives so much importance to his initial commitment words…so it is better she seeks her answers in his love towards her!!


Beautiful analysis Neerja! ❤️


I think this sums up Virat and Sai's dilemma perfectly.


Deal has been officially broken, but there is still a huge barrier in the form of Pakhi. Sai's insecurity is 100% understandable. Even people who are in a serious relationship and in love, do not make a promise of a lifetime of celibacy - they do move on. Virat making that bheeshma pratigya would only give the message to Sai that Pakhi was too important for Virat. It's difficult for her to fathom how someone who made such a huge life-determining vow for his lover can forget/erase that love from his heart so easily (her dialogue today makes so much sense).....so she concludes that what Virat is feeling for Sai may just be his aadat/attachment that comes from sharing a room. So when she keeps bringing up deal & zimmedari, i don't think she is wanting Virat to counter it (as I previously thought), but actually reminding herself and establishing the 'truth' as she sees it. Pakhi's presence in his life definitely doesn't help her insecurities.


Virat's hesitation in talking about his past or confessing his love - sometimes I too feel that may be the reason. That's why he regrets saying all those things to Sai. Because now it has become an uphill battle to convince his wife about the sincerity of his feelings for her.


I wish we could get both their monologues.


@sailtl I feel the onus in on Virat to clear whatever insecurities Sai may have regarding Pakhi. He made the vaada - Sai has no clue about why and under what circumstances he made it. So her reactions are quite natural. Actually she is already risking her heart by choosing Virat over everything - even whilst being fully aware (from her pov) that the relationship has no future.

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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

I agree. Virat would never be able to convince her with his answers and he is someone who could not say things with clarity.

I agree with what Bana said. There is always a tiny part of place left for Didi which makes his answers ambiguous. I don’t blame Virat for that. He is an introvert who never interacted much verbally except with Sunny.

So better for Sai to search for her answers like you said. It may take time but the end result will make the process worth living. I wish that moment arrives soon.


I thnk like this. people have different ideas of love. Sai's love is equated to her father mother love which is eternal, Devi-Pulkit love which stood the test of time...For Sai, Virat has had that connection with Pakhi already. She is young, romantic at heart(may be), and Virat being her first love...she will have first hand experience how that feels. She thinks Virat might not feel the same for her. She thinks, because he is a nice man, she will fulfill this marriage also, eventually. I can get her mindset. She is too young to understand that people change, and their definition of love changes too. Virat too thought the feelings he had Pakhi cannot be replaced...but they are replaced, almost instantly and more strongly! In his experience, what he feels for Sai cannot be replaced now. But how will Sai understand that. He can only express so much in words, but do a lot in his actions. When those actions are missing, when the person himself is missing that is when Sai will get time and space to think and reflect on his love. She will SEE him in his absence.


I am loving it! The writer Leena has some wonderful insights into human psychology I say!

Edited by sadiltl - 4 years ago

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