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Is Sai Virat scene from today’s episode foreshadowing the future episodes where confused Sai will unknowingly or knowingly will give mixed signals to Virat which will lead to Virat’s bbreakdown . Will she push him away which gives him immense pain and make him feel worthless and not worthy of her ?


It's very clear from the last two episodes that she doesn't have any plans to go to Pulkit’s house. She wants to stay in CN niwas. The way she said Virat is trying to send her gave away her plan. Sai has the right to decide if she wants to stay with Virat and forgive him or elsewhere but is it right to play games with Virat who has apologized to her and realized his mistakes and is very hurt. Isn't this a slow torture where he is made to feel that she is leaving him to check his reactions when she has already decided not to leave. I am trying to understand what's the the reason behind this? It's hard for me to understand her unfair words or actions.

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She is hurt and she somehow wants to punish him for his unthoughtful actions..and i think somehow he deserves in some extent.. I am happy sai isn’t mahan and all goody that she hesitate to torture him little..yes it’s must b a torture for him but if i were in sai's place i would have do the same..he shouldn’t take her for granted so that he can do whatever behaviour he wants just because he is insecure and jealous..and because of sai's pretention to leaving home virat finally reach that extent that he had to confess that he doesn’t want her to go..Virat needed this to open what is in his mind to others..he always try to hide his feelings untill it burst out as anger.. He needed to know there are other ways also to show your genuine feelings rather than getting angry..sai's silent pretentious torture finally push him to the extent so that he can show that how much he wants her..finally he got the courage to show her his sorrows and how much he need her in his life..

Edited by Momrin - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Is Sai Virat scene from today’s episode foreshadowing the future episodes where confused Sai will unknowingly or knowingly will give mixed signals to Virat which will lead to Virat’s bbreakdown . Will she push him away which gives him immense pain and make him feel worthless and not worthy of her ?


It's very clear from the last two episodes that she doesn't have any plans to go to Pulkit’s house. She wants to stay in CN niwas. The way she said Virat is trying to send her gave away her plan. Sai has the right to decide if she wants to stay with Virat and forgive him or elsewhere but is it right to play games with Virat who has apologized to her and realized his mistakes and is very hurt. Isn't this a slow torture where he is made to feel that she is leaving him to check his reactions when she has already decided not to leave. I am trying to understand what's the the reason behind this? It's hard for me to understand her unfair words or actions.

Tbh I don't think about it that way. I mean even though it is a show, it is still something that is happening between a married couple. And sometimes the couple fight, and one of them crooses the line. Things like these happen in real life, though they are not as frequent as shown in the serial, that one of them (usually wives) say that they are going to leave the house and go to their maika and at that moment they actually think that they mean it, but the moment their anger subsides they start to think about the scenario and starts to understand their spouse's pov and then just don't go. But their act of being really angry, that continues for some time. This kind of behaviour (of faking anger) is actually kind of common when it comes to women.

And given how far Virat went, I don't think that Sai is crossing any kind of line, she might be on the border but certainly not crossing it. In fact I think that it would have been better for her to stay at Pulkit's for few days. She was the one who was in an accident. Her mental peace is what matters the most (because of the risk of ptsd) even if for few days it is at the expense of Virat's happiness. But if she wants to stay with Virat, and she is not doing so because she doesn't think that Virat shouldn't be forgiven so easily, then too I don't think that we can blame her.

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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Is Sai Virat scene from today’s episode foreshadowing the future episodes where confused Sai will unknowingly or knowingly will give mixed signals to Virat which will lead to Virat’s bbreakdown . Will she push him away which gives him immense pain and make him feel worthless and not worthy of her ?


It's very clear from the last two episodes that she doesn't have any plans to go to Pulkit’s house. She wants to stay in CN niwas. The way she said Virat is trying to send her gave away her plan. Sai has the right to decide if she wants to stay with Virat and forgive him or elsewhere but is it right to play games with Virat who has apologized to her and realized his mistakes and is very hurt. Isn't this a slow torture where he is made to feel that she is leaving him to check his reactions when she has already decided not to leave. I am trying to understand what's the the reason behind this? It's hard for me to understand her unfair words or actions.


I didn't see it as Sai playing any games with Virat or intending to torture him in any way at all. In fact, during the hospital scenes, she kept looking down or away when he was crying, because she couldn't see him in pain even when she herself was entirely broken due to his actions and behavior. It was evident in yesterday's episode that she was extremely hesitant to go with Pulkit, but I'm unsure if she had entirely made up her mind. I think she was trying hard to convince herself to not return to CN. She was trying to stay strong and keep her guard up, because Virat had completely shattered her. Collecting her things from CN was definitely an excuse to return, and it was evident today that she was in no rush to leave...but her dialogue at the end of the episode was telling. She told the family that before she tells them anything, she wants to talk to Virat first. At the hospital, neither one of them were in a stable state of mind. In fact, they are still not. But, at least the atmosphere has shifted to one that is more comfortable... they are in their home, and Sai is out of danger. So, perhaps a part of her wanted to have a conversation with him all along in order to give their relationship one last shot. Deep down, I agree, she knew that she would not leave. She is in love, and I think she forgave him internally after their very first hospital conversation. But, her reluctance this entire time was out of her own pain...not out of any intention to cause Virat pain. In the precap, she starts crying the second she sees that Virat is crying. She is horrified when he asks her to hit him, and she cannot even hear him say that he will kill herself. Just like Virat cannot see Sai in pain, she cannot see him in pain either. This is all to say, that I do not believe that Sai had even an ounce of intention to torment Virat.... all of this is just the result of many contradicting emotions within her...

Another factor that was playing into her decision at the hospital was also not wanting to upset nor disrespect Pulkit, who is her elder... he supported her throughout this entire situation, and to her, he really did have her back. So, she was trying to strike a balance there as well...

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Momrin

She is hurt and she somehow wants to punish him for his unthoughtful actions..and i think somehow he deserves in some extent.. I am happy sai isn’t mahan and all goody that she hesitate to torture him little..yes it’s must b a torture for him but if i were in sai's place i would have do the same..he shouldn’t take her for granted so that he can do whatever behaviour he wants just because he is insecure and jealous..and because of sai's pretention to leaving home virat finally reach that extent that he had to confess that he doesn’t want her to go..Virat needed this to open what is in his mind to others..he always try to hide his feelings untill it burst out as anger.. He needed to know there are other ways also to show your genuine feelings rather than getting angry..sai's silent pretentious torture finally push him to the extent so that he can show that how much he wants her..finally he got the courage to show her his sorrows and how much he need her in his life..

@ Bold Virat has already requested her to stay back. He has apologized multiple times.


I won't say that he deserves it. When someone apologizes for their mistakes, the choice is to either forgive them or not but being vengeful is not something I like. On the other hand, Virat has been magnanimous enough to forgive her small and big mistakes so another reason why I feel he doesn't deserve this

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No Sai is just too hurt and confused since there are contradicting emotions building up in her. I felt since the hospital scenes, she wants to believe that Virat does have feelings for her and that's why he couldn't see her with Ajinkya, but at the same time his behaviour and actions with her and that kid has hurt her immensely. She also feels obliged to honour her words to Pulkit who offered her a home with concern and it looks like she keeps pushing her decision coz of these battle between heart ans brain. She's not there to give false hopes to Virat, but wanted to get it clear with Virat once and for all, imo.

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Tbh I don't think about it that way. I mean even though it is a show, it is still something that is happening between a married couple. And sometimes the couple fight, and one of them crooses the line. Things like these happen in real life, though they are not as frequent as shown in the serial, that one of them (usually wives) say that they are going to leave the house and go to their maika and at that moment they actually think that they mean it, but the moment their anger subsides they start to think about the scenario and starts to understand their spouse's pov and then just don't go. But their act of being really angry, that continues for some time. This kind of behaviour (of faking anger) is actually kind of common when it comes to women.

And given how far Virat went, I don't think that Sai is crossing any kind of line, she might be on the border but certainly not crossing it. In fact I think that it would have been better for her to stay at Pulkit's for few days. She was the one who was in an accident. Her mental peace is what matters the most (because of the risk of ptsd) even if for few days it is at the expense of Virat's happiness. But if she wants to stay with Virat, and she is not doing so because she doesn't think that Virat shouldn't be forgiven so easily, then too I don't think that we can blame her.

As I mentioned in my initial post, it's up to Sai to stay with Virat or forgive him. My point was whatever she has decided he deserves to know rather than sayingg she is going to go away but having a different plan.


I don't know if faking anger is common or not but I think k she has taken this too far this time which will lead to his breakdown and him having suicidal thoughts. When someone is emotionally down, pushing them further will only aggregate the situation.

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I didn't see it as Sai playing any games with Virat or intending to torture him in any way at all. In fact, during the hospital scenes, she kept looking down or away when he was crying, because she couldn't see him in pain even when she herself was entirely broken due to his actions and behavior. It was evident in yesterday's episode that she was extremely hesitant to go with Pulkit, but I'm unsure if she had entirely made up her mind. I think she was trying hard to convince herself to not return to CN. She was trying to stay strong and keep her guard up, because Virat had completely shattered her. Collecting her things from CN was definitely an excuse to return, and it was evident today that she was in no rush to leave...but her dialogue at the end of the episode was telling. She told the family that before she tells them anything, she wants to talk to Virat first. At the hospital, neither one of them were in a stable state of mind. In fact, they are still not. But, at least the atmosphere has shifted to one that is more comfortable... they are in their home, and Sai is out of danger. So, perhaps a part of her wanted to have a conversation with him all along in order to give their relationship one last shot. Deep down, I agree, she knew that she would not leave. She is in love, and I think she forgave him internally after their very first hospital conversation. But, her reluctance this entire time was out of her own pain...not out of any intention to cause Virat pain. In the precap, she starts crying the second she sees that Virat is crying. She is horrified when he asks her to hit him, and she cannot even hear him say that he will kill herself. Just like Virat cannot see Sai in pain, she cannot see him in pain either. This is all to say, that I do not believe that Sai had even an ounce of intention to torment Virat.... all of this is just the result of many contradicting emotions within her...

Another factor that was playing into her decision at the hospital was also not wanting to upset nor disrespect Pulkit, who is her elder... he supported her throughout this entire situation, and to her, he really did have her back. So, she was trying to strike a balance there as well...

Honestly, I believe she had made up her mind the moment she wanted to go back to CN niwas to pack her things and after reaching she got angry when Virat reminded her. In the Tamil version, we see Saranya informing everyone of staying back as soon as she reaches home and in the room, she clarifies that she stayed back for Vikram not for the family members as he assumed. Later to get a reaction she again brings the topic of moving ou. The whole scene did not give me the feeling that she was hatching a plan but seeing the recap I feel she will stretch it till the end until he breaks down completely.
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Honestly, I believe she had made up her mind the moment she wanted to go back to CN niwas to pack her things and after reaching she got angry when Virat reminded her. In the Tamil version, we see Saranya informing everyone of staying back as soon as she reaches home and in the room, she clarifies that she stayed back for Vikram not for the family members as he assumed. Later to get a reaction she again brings the topic of moving ou. The whole scene did not give me the feeling that she was hatching a plan but seeing the recap I feel she will stretch it till the end until he breaks down completely.

@bolded: I did not see it this way. I saw a woman who's heart and mind were at odds... who's self respect and desire to be with the love of her life were at odds...

I have not seen the Tamil version, so I cannot comment there. In terms of the precap, it seemed to me that she completely broke the second she saw Virat crying. She stopped him from speaking about his suicidal thoughts and from him trying to force her to hit him... I think that seeing all of this will just push her over the edge and completely melt her... it will make her heart and her desire to be with him triumph above all else...

I don't think that it will be her stretching the conversation. It seems more as if Virat has so much building up inside of him that he will need to release it all... this guilt is not just from this past incident, but also from all of the other times he has hurt her. He himself does not understand why it happens... and he is truly in a desperate state. I feel as though their conversation will be more about them letting out all of their feelings and emotions than Sai trying to prolong his breakdown. Anyways, let's see what they show in the episode.

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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I can say one thing which I noticed from beginning…


Sai’s love for virat can be measured by how granted she takes him for! For her, he is at her aabas place. The more she comes close to him, the more she behaves whatever she feels like. There is no hiding, no hesitancy and no fear of being judged. Hence it appears as she is hurting him or being rude. But actually she is too comfortable with him…is it right or wrong depends on how virat takes it. Except for this incident , which is due to more of his own insecurities that he took her comments too seriously, I don’t think virat ever considered her action towards him as rude or misleading. He reads people too well so he knows sai has genuine care and concern for him. His only worry is that whether she will love him like a woman /wife (going forward).


Virats love is clearly seen by everyone, except by sai who is blinded by his vaada. The problem with virat is just what he said in the precap, he bottles up too much and ends up hurting her badly. With the burden of his own guilt, he feels unworthy of her love., and doesn’t express the way she wants. This guilt is the reason that he thinks he has no right to stop her or expect love from her, which actually gives sai the wrong signals


sorry I diverged a bit but just wanted to clear my thoughts so have written. I hope I made sense. Jelebi couple are hard to understand



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