Ye didi kaun se himmat ki baat kar rahi hai ? - Page 6

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Yeah you are right, she blocked him because he didn't save her number.

Proximity - I've never noticed it too. I'm too bad at noticing such details. 😆But forum members have been pointing it out - how they are always placed together even during family scenes.

The KKHH moment and recent dining table hand holding was so blatant - how can it not mean anything? I don't even want to guess the idea behind those. But, if such blatant things can be shown why cannot the standing close together be deliberate too?

Yes I agree standing together is deliberate .

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

Yeah you are right, she blocked him because he didn't save her number.

Proximity - I've never noticed it too. I'm too bad at noticing such details. 😆But forum members have been pointing it out - how they are always placed together even during family scenes.

The KKHH moment and recent dining table hand holding was so blatant - how can it not mean anything? I don't even want to guess the idea behind those. But, if such blatant things can be shown why cannot the standing close together be deliberate too?

And kkhh😆 That was not kkhh moment. He suddenly noticed her going away and asked her through gesture where she was going, not like, oh Pakhi, please don't leave me. You will always be special for me🤣

Anyways. Different people interpret same scene differently. For me that scene meant nothing. Too insignificant to notice. I took pains to notice just because I had read various forum posts regarding that scene that day😆

I believe Pakhi would have still married Samrat even though Virat did not give any vaada to her. She would still have utilised the opportunity to be nearer to Virat. So Virat’s vaada can not be made responsible for Pakhi’s decision. She is just emotionally stressing him out by saying so. Sunny did show mirror to her but she is too self obsessed to understand and move on.People who love themselves more will end up in self destruction.

Originally posted by: Nja91

Adversity, disappointment, failures, solitude are the true test of character. And pp has failed at this test miserably

She didnt seem like an evil/bad person before because she was pampered by her parents and had everything handed to her. When she is finally put in a position where she needs to display her real character she us showing who she really is. Sometimes circumstances force a negative/extreme reaction from a person which can probably be forgiven/overlooked as in Virat and Sai's case because they genuinely introspect and apologizes/regret/feel guilty when wrong and are always well intentioned. but pp does not fit that category either. She is consistently evil now and has shown no introspection even in her own head. Evertime she cries or looks upset- its only and only about her own self. When virat was in hospital, she cared only because she perceives him as her possession. She didnt actually care about him because if she did she would not have stopped Sai when she saw he was calling for her, she wouldn't create a tamasha as soon as he came back home. She cried when Sai fell because she was worried that virat would hold her accountable. She has never felt guilty for what she puts Sai through. Whether intentional or not, a normal person would feel bad about hurting the other. She NEVER said sorry to Sai. The only time she apologized to Sai was post hospital homecoming and that was sarcastic, not genuine. So she is the incarnation of all things evil, negative. There is NO redemption. Makers will whitewash her eventually if they copy KD but as a viewer for me, i think she is the scum of humanity. I'm glad she is a fictional character. I would never want to meet a real person that is pp.

This is the major issue with Pakhi's characterization - even in the Bengali version. They should have made her retain some of her humanity - even as she is manipulative and tries to use favourable situations when she can. Then she can be acceptable as a slightly dark character (fictional). But they made her do too many vile things without an ounce of guilt. So all the analysis of her character cannot contextualize, let alone justify her vile actions. She is allowed to be hateful, disappointed but she sold her soul.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

This is the major issue with Pakhi's characterization - even in the Bengali version. They should have made her retain some of her humanity - even as she is manipulative and tries to use favourable situations when she can. Then she can be acceptable as a slightly dark character (fictional). But they made her do too many vile things without an ounce of guilt. So all the analysis of her character cannot contextualize, let alone justify her vile actions. The worst part will be when Samrat returns - Samrat's 'love' will help her move on. 🤪

Petition to save Sammy 🤣

I have always supported virat but this time I have different views. I didn't like that "himmat" dialogue and comdemn papi didi for it but whatever mess the main three characters are in today, virat can't be absolve of all charges.

In my opinion it was never about himmat which stopped virat from marrying papi didi, it was his love and respect for his jeeva.

But he did give that stupid vaada to her, kept on saying that there is nothing between him and sai in the initial days of his marriage whenever papi didi accused him of moving on.

So yes its papi didi's own fault, decision, delusional brain, lack of self respect etc to blame for her condition but virat did give her false hopes, encouraged her delusional mind to keep believing virat as her imaginary pati.

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I'm sure he didn't mean that. 😆Doesn't have any remnant of the spark he had for Pakhi. But still weird to hold a delusional ex's hand while hugging your wife. I mean, who does that?!? He could have called out to her.

Had he called out to her at that moment, Sai would have heard him and she would've broken the hug. So he stopped her and at the same time, did not let the hug be disturbed😉

I was irritated with the KKHH moment but brushed it aside as insignificant. But when it happened again at the dining table ...it was too hard to ignore it as a blooper.

As I said, that seemed deliberate on makers' part. I think this is what they wanted to project. That hand holding showed their feelings for each other. That Virat has truly moved on because he felt nothing for her neither while holding her hand nor after leaving it but Patralekha was shaken implying she's not over him.

Neil had said in an interview, that Virat becomes blind in love and is unable to see anything else. This is what happened. He was too engrossed in Sai's birthday that he became blind to Patralekha and her feelings.

Originally posted by: cheekukabeej

I'm sure he didn't mean that. 😆Doesn't have any remnant of the spark he had for Pakhi. But still weird to hold a delusional ex's hand while hugging your wife. I mean, who does that?!? He could have called out to her.

Had he called out to her at that moment, Sai would have heard him and she would've broken the hug. So he stopped her and at the same time, did not let the hug be disturbed😉

I was irritated with the KKHH moment but brushed it aside as insignificant. But when it happened again at the dining table ...it was too hard to ignore it as a blooper.

As I said, that seemed deliberate on makers' part. I think this is what they wanted to project. That hand holding showed their feelings for each other. That Virat has truly moved on because he felt nothing for her neither while holding her hand nor after leaving it but Patralekha was shaken implying she's not over him.

Neil had said in an interview, that Virat becomes blind in love and is unable to see anything else. This is what happened. He was too engrossed in Sai's birthday that he became blind to Patralekha and her feelings.

Tagging you now😆

Originally posted by: Amor_fati

I totally agree.. if you see my earlier post to this, I too mentioned that Samrat’s return can only solve this mess.. The problem is not her calling Virat and pouring her heart out…but, when it comes to blurting one must always remember the place, context and relevance( idam, porul, yaeval).. she didn’t know that and poured her heart out on a wrong day in a wrong place.
I agree but that is why I had said she was in a trance but had realised what she had got herself into and at that moment felt like crying for her heartbreak. Blurting is called blurting only when a person has no control or realisation of what they are speaking right? She wouldn’t have expected Samrat to come since they were expected to spend the night separately. I am not saying that she was right in shouting like that but somewhere I do understand that it would have been difficult for her, she wanted to pour her heart and made a mistake. Didn’t we all see Virat calling Pakhi a pyaari cheez after days of Pakhi’s marriage and his and Sai’s marriage. Virat had only convinced himself that he loved Pakhi but even then left Samrat’s and her marriage to save Sai. Yes, his duty comes first but Virat’s care and concern for Sai was visible when Sai was in safe house. He was very protective of her. Even then he had said that if he had never been to GC, he never would have lost her. Then, in the same way, won’t Pakhi feel that or blurt it out? Sai was in the same room and Virat spoke this, Samrat was supposed to spend his night elsewhere and Pakhi was alone in her room. I am only trying to understand it from Pakhi’s perspective even if she was wrong. At that point of time, she had not turned evil. Her mistakes were that she misunderstood Virat had not saved her number, she had accepted Virat’s waada and she had also decided to marry Samrat so as to stay close to Virat.

Samrat’s leaving- if he had calmly given a day and thought it through and confronted Virat, things would have been different, but he felt betrayed.. couldn’t blame him.

I still feel that he was wrong. He could have felt betrayed, not talking to Virat is not the same as abandoning his wife like that and go on missing. I don’t want him to leave everything and act as a husband, I wanted him to end the issue. If not for then, after a few days. He could have chosen any decision but this. Not only has he wronged Pakhi, he has wronged his family and mainly his mom.

Virat’s waada, itself was senseless.. who in right mind can live chaste becoming Pakhidass his entire life. Pakhi’s friend rightly pointed out that no body can keep such a promise before her marriage, but she was blindly in love to realize what she was getting into. Then marrying Samrat to be closer to Virat.. what was her thought process here? Can anybody see their ex in the form of their devar, day in and day out? I accept there is a plethora of emotions involved, she made a erroneous decision to marry a guy to stay in close proximity to her lover and continued to worship Virat even after he got married. But, the moment Virat said he fell in love with his wife.. she must have come to her senses and at least tried to move away from him.. but her worship continued.

I agree, she should have moved on atleast after she came to know that he only sees her as his friend and brother’s wife.

Coming to Virat he should have apologized to her about his waada immediately or within a few days of his return from GC.. but he didn’t and now it’s too late, she is not in a state to listen to apologies..

I agree, it is a tricky situation but he needs to find a solution. Whether or not he gave the waada, she might have married Samrat but by giving that waada, he had given her entertained her to develop some stupid thoughts indirectly. He wouldn’t have imagined that she could be thinking that way, but she did. He also misled her after his marriage, so whether she has got into obsession or not, Virat should be solving it.

because her whole world shattered because of that one waada and now she is all alone.. Her love has turned into obsession.. her whole world revolves around him.. her hatred towards Sai stemmed out of Sai’s proximity to Virat and Sai’s rights over him as a wife.. that hatred did not even start as hatred, it was mere jealousy.. to an extent it was Virat who fueled it.. However, her vileness is her own doing.

I agree, her vileness is her own doing.

I feel for her as a woman.. haven’t we all made bad decisions deluded by emotions, the thing is at some point we realized the mistake and rectified it… now she is too stubborn to do it.. you are right, she lost her self respect. The way Virat insults her at times.. any woman with self esteem will not bother to give him a second look, but she gets back to him. Even yesterday I strongly felt that Virat should apologize to her for manhandling.. but she didn’t expect even a sorry.

It is very disturbing that she didn’t expect anything from him or wasn’t upset with him for what he did but was upset that he misunderstood her and organised party for Sai. Only if she clears her thoughts, will she be able to realise what she is doing to others and mainly with herself.

Even Sunny’s words to move on did not affect her. At this point her redemption is in her own hands… I totally agree she should stop living her life for Virat and start living it for herself..Unlike Sai, she has parents who support her, the entire CN support her.. she should cash in all their support and move on. Her father is a gem of a person, who would help her.. she can get a career, get some friends. Get into therapy… boy she needs psychiatric support, as she is severely distraught and borderline bipolar. I researched bipolar disorder after watching her Ladakh fiasco..

Adding - she is also narcissistic, lacking empathy which was clearly evident in Harinee / Devi Tai incident, how can a woman otherwise support such atrocity in the name of family honor? Mohit incident or latest incident with Sai. These don’t develop suddenly must have innate and now heightened due her plight. I don’t how to justify this?

I really don’t know. May be situations or circumstances can make a person turn into anything? She does lack empathy. My issue started not with anything else but with the fact that she expected Virat to not move on in his life. Everything else, like her vile behavior towards Sai started later. Virat was wrong in giving a stupid waada but it was an impulsive decision, just so that she leaves the room and mainly for the happiness of his brother. Whether or not he gives it, if she really loves him, she shouldn’t expect that he doesn’t move on. She should help him or encourage him to move on with Sai and not do these that she is doing at the moment. So, she turned wrong right at that point for me.

I can relate to her rage, desolation and dejection. Nonetheless from a moral standpoint her actions are always questionable, including her decision to marry and her obsession with Virat.

Of course.

PS: the above post does not reflect my fondness towards Pakhi.

😊Same here. I think we all try to look into the perspectives of all the characters not just Sai or Virat. We just share our views on them, their feelings and their actions.

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