What if Series~Brother in Love

Well, well! I am reviving the series of conversations with what if?

The common trope of brothers pining for a single girl has been explored in pop culture from times immemorial. Right from The Vampire Diaries to Gul Khan romances that would typically focus on two brothers brooding for a girl.

Such is the impactful storytelling of this trope that most of us would want the girl to make a decision!

What I love about Pandya store is that this trope is quintessentially tweaked to create a relationship so complicated amongst the three of them!

Dev, Shiva and Ravi all have my heart.❤️

• A girl who lived in a parallel universe in an imaginary romantic relationship.
  
  
• A man who almost had a platonic and a saviour relationship with his childhood friend.
  
  
• And, the perpetual devil who was obsessed with the girl living in an alternate universe of disgust, finally ending up getting married and attracted to this creature on earth.
  
  

This sounds like a melting pot of emotions, and a potboiler recipe for disaster. 😵😆

We all love to Hate Dev, we do?

But, what if we were Dev? What if we were in place of Dev? What could we have done better? Whether we would have apologised for profusely, crying our eyes out till now, or seek for forgiveness every single second?

Whether we would be reclusive, morose, and always trying to seek a distance from thevnewly wed couple? There could be many scenarios, but would love to know yours! 😆

I see Dev getting jittery about Shiva’s alcoholic stint, and he does blame himself for the same. He decides to do something by taking the marbles, and probably we might get an epic lecture on his behalf tomorrow.

Do you really think Dev as a man who was a part of erotic dreams of his brother’s wife should even have the balls to say something to Shiva?

If I were Dev, I would probably get a separate house and maybe live in it for a few months. Or, better still, I would refrain from any form of conversation, or avoid being around them for at least a few months. If I were Dev, then I would probably make sure to put a huge effort to keep myself away from them.

Not because of my guilty streak, but because of the familiarity of Raavi’s feeling before marriage. Dev absolutely had an idea about how Ravi imagined about him! She did mention about kissing on the bike!

And, it is extremely embarrassing that the same woman who had loved you all her life is now married to your brother! In real life scenario, this could be extremely unpalatable for someone like Shiva who till date has been extremely kind towards Dev barring the minor anger bout post the wedding.

I genuinely believe that Dev is a kind hearted person, but he barely comprehends the intricacy of human relationships. He also lacks the sensitivity to handle such issues with the fragility that they deserve.

The last thing I want to hear is a lecture from Dev‘s part trying to alleviate Shiva’s insecurities. Dude, you are practically the cause of misery for your brother!

Stop playing the victim and maybe do something actually worthwhile by just keeping away from these do.

So, I am opening the thread for your amazing view points and answers regarding the same.

P.S – Let’s 🙏 refrain from any form of name calling, bashing and any activity or discussion that is against forum rules!

Look forward to healthy conversations regarding Dev.

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I need to come back to this... This is so i dont lose the post 😂😂😂

I totally agree, Piu. Any person in his situation would have separated himself for a while. Cause that level of awkwardness is just too much to handle. And just doesn’t work out like this in real life.

This is a show, so let’s just go with it 😆

Amazing post, Momzieee 🤗 Only you can be so impartial towards all the characters like this 😆

Beautiful post T.

❤️❤️❤️

It's a very awkward situation in reality.i agree with you on the fact that Dev should be the last person on earth to give relationship advice to shiva.

I don't want shiva to do anything taking dev's advice with respect to raavi.shivi have to find their own way,.maybe with a little support from Gaura.not only Dev shiva equation, but I also don't want raavi to give relationship advice to rishita.even though Dev chose rishita in the last moment, but he had actually dumped her to marry raavi.the childhood familiarity does not help the case.

They four are in a very delicate situation.especially shiva. Dev can give him brotherly advice like don't drink, boost his morale but plzz stay away from matters regarding raavi.

Maybe after years when both the marriages are stronger,they can be comfortable with their past.but definitely not now.

You have pointed out correctly, Dev lacks depth as a person.he is unable to understand the intricacies of human relationships.i think makers have time and again shown this contrast.shiva is the contemplative person and Dev is the intellectual one but lacks emotional quotient.the scene in the shop where shiva is concerned about raavi trying to kill herself for dev, he even trivialised that .did she give her life? No.but shiva had always understood the depth of her feelings, while Dev continued to ignore it in the name of childishness and termed her actions as impulsive.

His way of Dealing with rishita's anger?buy her a gift.his way of shutting up his wife? Kiss her. He doesn't understand his wife's pain either.devta scenes lack emotional conversations and depth.sometimes I think it's purposeful.they want to show Dev shallow, who will gradually grow with time.

PS- I am dreading the Dev shiva convo tomorrow.

Very valid question, though I wouldn’t want to be Dev 😆

I’ll be coming back to this after work tonight!

I think his lecture (as noble as the thought is) can potentially do more harm than good. I mentioned this before - Dev unintentionally encourages the labels placed on both of them by society. He has done so since their childhood. “I’m not like you. I can’t be brash. Stop making the house dirty like yourself. Stop wasting time, I need to study.” These are not his exact words but you get the point.

Reminds me of when Klaus tells Elijah, “brother, I’ll play the role I’ve been given.” These two love each other to death but their relationship was perhaps the most stunning & complex siblings relationships I have seen till date. Love TO for depicting this so well! As much as I love Elijah, I do believe he sometimes leaves Klaus with no option but to be the Devil. By constantly pointing out that Klaus needs to be saved, he contributes to others overlooking Klaus’s growth and only focusing on what needs to be fixed.

Dev doesn’t leave any chance to make it obvious the difference between himself & Shiva. Maybe he doesn’t even mean to. He does love his brother, But he does reiterate the fact that he is nothing like Shiva and that Shiva is no Dev. And I see this conversation being no different. I can bet, Shiva will leave the conversation even more convinced Raavi isn’t for him. She would never want someone like him. He is no Dev. He can never be the man Raavi will cherish and dream about. He will have to keep playing the role he has been given.

From Dev’s POV, I’m sure he is facing his own set of insecurities and issues. Him repeating those words isn’t because he likes to say it over and over. Or he wants Shiva to feel bad. It’s comes from something much deeper. He is also tired of certain expectations and the fact that Shiva is the strong protector of the family. Truly, he isn’t like Shiva. Why does he have to be? But then does that mean he is lacking somewhere? Siblings dynamics are just so complex! And society comparing them doesn’t help.

Writing this in between meetings but will add more when I have some clear thoughts 😊 I hope it made some sense! Thanks for tagging 🤗

I wanted this discussion since sometime. I always believed Dev is kind and good but he is kind if clueless about everything which is the root of all this confusion. Yet at times I do empathize with his character ( what he did to Raavi was totally wrong yet he is not a villain. He did not mean to- he is just clueless and not as strong in his decisions)

First of all about Dev Raavi and Shiva- all three are close in age and were friends (or enemies in case of Shiva and Raavi). Yet childhood friends and enemies usually know each other best. Shiva knew the extent of Raavi's madness. He could guess to what lengths Raavi would be willing to go but not Dev. According to him, he did not lead her on because eating ice cream with someone or talking politely does not mean love. True . But this is dreamy Raavi. Shiva knew Raavi would take all this as confirmation that Dev loves her hence he kept on warning him to keep distance if Dev does not reciprocate her feelings.

Dev- Rishita. We as audience can see why Dev fell for Rishita- she was fiery , bold , unafraid to voice her opinions . In every way , a contrast to soft spoken Dev. However Dev could not reciprocate the love Rishita gave him. Rishita was willing to leave everything for him and she did. Dev chose his family over her- a very difficult choice for him but her family had hurt his Bhabi he could not ignore that. But as the festivities progressed Dev knew that he cannot move on easily - he loved Rishita and not Raavi. For family he kept quiet thinking it to be best not realizing that he is destroying two other lives with his own by this decision.

The wedding - I honestly can see where Dev was coming from. He saw his Bhabi humiliated, the Bhabi who was mora a mother. He chose his family willing to sacrifice his love for the sake of family. The problem was he had not really chosen- he was not firm in his decision. If we see the pre wedding and wedding itself, Dev was heartbroken too. When finally he saw Rishita in his wedding, he knew he could not go on with his marriage to Raavi. He accepted that.

After the wedding, we see Dev - guilty, repentant, confused on what he should do especially in front of Shiva- Raavi. He is also happy with Rishita but he cannot really be happy when there is a backdrop of sadness due to him.

Overall I think Dev is one of those people who are too polite . They are too good , too polite and soft spoken . They try their best to not hurt anyone and refrain from all confrontations. Yet their actions come back to hurt them and all those whom they did not want to hurt . Because life cannot be lead passively. We need to actively take decisions and also take responsibility of those decisions. That is where Dev lacks when compared to Shiva or Gaumbi .

Okay it became too long .sorry 🤣

Thanks for the tag Momzii❤️

Will get back in the morning and comment...This post was much needed...glad you posted it🤗

Originally posted by: Transference

Well, well! I am reviving the series of conversations with what if?

The common trope of brothers pining for a single girl has been explored in pop culture from times immemorial. Right from The Vampire Diaries to Gul Khan romances that would typically focus on two brothers brooding for a girl.

Such is the impactful storytelling of this trope that most of us would want the girl to make a decision!

What I love about Pandya store is that this trope is quintessentially tweaked to create a relationship so complicated amongst the three of them!

Dev, Shiva and Ravi all have my heart.❤️

• A girl who lived in a parallel universe in an imaginary romantic relationship.
  
  
• A man who almost had a platonic and a saviour relationship with his childhood friend.
  
  
• And, the perpetual devil who was obsessed with the girl living in an alternate universe of disgust, finally ending up getting married and attracted to this creature on earth.
  
  

This sounds like a melting pot of emotions, and a potboiler recipe for disaster. 😵😆

We all love to Hate Dev, we do?

But, what if we were Dev? What if we were in place of Dev? What could we have done better? Whether we would have apologised for profusely, crying our eyes out till now, or seek for forgiveness every single second?

Whether we would be reclusive, morose, and always trying to seek a distance from thevnewly wed couple? There could be many scenarios, but would love to know yours! 😆

I see Dev getting jittery about Shiva’s alcoholic stint, and he does blame himself for the same. He decides to do something by taking the marbles, and probably we might get an epic lecture on his behalf tomorrow.

Do you really think Dev as a man who was a part of erotic dreams of his brother’s wife should even have the balls to say something to Shiva?

If I were Dev, I would probably get a separate house and maybe live in it for a few months. Or, better still, I would refrain from any form of conversation, or avoid being around them for at least a few months. If I were Dev, then I would probably make sure to put a huge effort to keep myself away from them.

Not because of my guilty streak, but because of the familiarity of Raavi’s feeling before marriage. Dev absolutely had an idea about how Ravi imagined about him! She did mention about kissing on the bike!

And, it is extremely embarrassing that the same woman who had loved you all her life is now married to your brother! In real life scenario, this could be extremely unpalatable for someone like Shiva who till date has been extremely kind towards Dev barring the minor anger bout post the wedding.

I genuinely believe that Dev is a kind hearted person, but he barely comprehends the intricacy of human relationships. He also lacks the sensitivity to handle such issues with the fragility that they deserve.

The last thing I want to hear is a lecture from Dev‘s part trying to alleviate Shiva’s insecurities. Dude, you are practically the cause of misery for your brother!

Stop playing the victim and maybe do something actually worthwhile by just keeping away from these do.

So, I am opening the thread for your amazing view points and answers regarding the same.

P.S – Let’s 🙏 refrain from any form of name calling, bashing and any activity or discussion that is against forum rules!

Look forward to healthy conversations regarding Dev.

No doubt Dev is a confusing character . He was shown so caring and sweet as a boy . He still is that but he hasn't matured with age .

He cares about the misbehaving part but wrong and right are far from his mind .

The only good I can see about lecture of marbles is maybe if he thinks these marbles have always been important to Shiva . What if Dev knew the whole mami slipping on the marbles , raavi laughing on it and the whole incident and had his doubts about Shivi.

What if Dev always knew that Shiva and Raavi had a special bond somewhere in his mind ? He saw it but lacking the emotional connect as always let it go ? But now seeing the marbles it clicked why these were important to Shiva ?

What if these marbles were important to Shiva not because he laughed when mami fell but rather because he got to see the cute and innocent raavi smile for the very first time which he now goes gaga over . Maybe they have always been special to him because that's when his heart fell for her, mind steering clear about her since she's mami ki beti.

Fingers crossed what if they show shiva actually cared for Raavi since childhood but just protected his heart from hurt knowing they were born to fight as she was the daughter of their mortal enemy .

If Dev is trying to reason and explain to Shiva that Shivi were always meant to be then am team Dev .

If he gives faltu gyan am out because he needs gyan himself to improve his equation . The love I see between Devta is nothing but the lovy dovy starting part . The sort of understanding required for a relationship is far away😛

But if Dev does try to make Shiva understand his and Raavis equation considering Dev was technically the third wheel and has seen their fights , they standing for each other , their care for each other since childhood( even though raavi that time considered shiva as third wheel ) then Dev would progress as a character to me . He would be the one reminding us of all past moments of Shivi if we are even tad bit lucky .

Thank you for tagging me! I will come back to write my thoughts tonight ❤️

Dev, Raavi, and Shiva indeed have one of the most unique renditions of "2 brothers and 1 girl" compared to other storylines. The complexity of their relationship, however, has always been unbalanced, with Raavi and Shiva causing an unintentional storm to simmer in Dev's life (I by no means like Pandya Store Dev; however, in other versions, Dev was written out so beautifully as any girl would have a crush on him).

Pandya Store Dev is a let down for me, but let me try to play the Devil's Advocate here. He seems to have developed a superiority complex, perhaps due to his handsomeness and well-educated nature. He seems to have compartmentalized how he reacts and interacts with other characters. With Gaumbi, he acts like a younger brother (i.e., looking away with embarrassment and a small smirk when he sees Gaumbi romancing, always supporting whatever Gaumbi wishes), with Dhara, he acts like a best friend (i.e., sharing his discomfort and worries, respecting her words of wisdom), with Shiva and Krish, he acts like a bossy older brother (i.e., scolding them, being quick to lecture them, but also taking care of them when they are hurt).

As of now, he doesn't seem to understand that he can play multiple roles while assuming one title (i.e., he can apologize despite being Shiva's older brother). Part of that, is honestly due to Dhara's teaching. Immediately post-marriage, she told Shiva that he should be respecting Rishita and he shouldn't be angry at Dev for too long. Perhaps she had the best of intentions, but Dev, in his immaturity, quickly concluded that as an "elder" brother he had the "haq" to do whatever and that Shiva should still respect their relationship. Of course, he realized his mistake, but it came too late.

Another reason he is this way is simply due to Krish and Shiva's quick way of forgiving. Even when Dev was trying to apologize, Shiva brushed off his apology and hugged him. Shiva's anger lasts as quickly as it takes to blow out a fire on a lit matchstick. Since Dev never experienced long-term anger from Shiva or Krish, he quite honestly, never had the time to develop as an older brother. He continues to make the same mistakes because he knows how easily everyone will forgive him (even Raavi). He doesn't even need to work hard.

What frustrates me about Dev's character isn't even how Akshay acts out Dev (as Akshay can take his time to improve his acting skills). It's the fact that after ~150 episodes, Dev has had the least character growth. He is still the same nervous, immature boy we were first introduced to post-leap. He continues to splurge Rishita to solve their problems. He continues to use his "haq" on Shiva. With all that said and done, it's no surprise that Dev never truly understood the extent of Raavi's fantasies. Sure, he might have known she liked him, but, when the whole town comments on your handsomeness, how do you truly know whether Raavi likes you due to your appearance or due to your personality?

As such, I don't think he ever realized that it was a problem. In fact, no one knows how much Raavi loved Dev. He probably thought Raavi had a 2 second crush on him; however, Shiva now knows the truth. Would Shiva tell Dev? Maybe, in anger. But would Dev understand? Nope. He wouldn't. Everything was handed to him easily in life, and he even saw GauRa's marriage. If anything, he might allude to how GauRa found happiness, therefore, Shiva should calm down and find happiness himself in the same manner.

Just as you posted a few days about copycat Dev, I truly don't think he ever had the chance to think for himself. Whenever they were in danger, Shiva acted spontaneously. Whenever the family needed to relax, Krish was the jokester. Whenever the brothers needed some fatherly guidance, Gaumbi was there. Even in Dev's relationship, Rishita is the one who leads. She is the one to get angry. She is the one to be brave. She is the one to fight. Even if Dev is mad, Rishita wins... always. Dev's role in the family is to be complacent. That's probably the only thing he knows how to do, and until the CVs truly give him a moment to shine, he will continue to be the most underdeveloped and hated character in terms of the Pandya family.