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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Apsvenky

I get where you are coming from. The reason I said that their journey will be similar is because both tried to reject a truth that was clear to them from day one - That Aditya was married to Imlie. Adi rejected it because he was committed to Malini & his pride & ego took a huge hit. Aparna is rejecting it because her social conditioning does not allow her to easily to accept someone below her social standing to be called her son's life partner. Both of them use their inherent issues to lash out at the easiest target - Imlie. While Adi's ego was hurt, Imlie had no hand in that and had even worse consequences to face than he did. It is actually easier for me to understand Aparna than it was for Adi. Adi lashed out at her and continuously broke down her self respect as a punishment for his bruised ego and self respect, for which she was in no way responsible. She had no one to turn to then and was continuously alone, as she could not even tell her own family about anything. She was in a much worse state emotionally then, than she is now. That time when she had no one, Aparna supported her and loved her like a mother, and even stood up to her son multiple times for mistreating her.

Aparna does not inherently believe in what she is saying right now. If she did, she would have never berated Adi for keeping Imlie out of his room, for whatever reason. The issue now is that Aparna is unable to accept Imlie as her bahu. Not because Imlie did something wrong, but because she is afraid of facing the society and defending her son's decision. She feels that society will judge them and she is not prepared to face that. So she is using every trick in the book to alienate Imlie to either give up or move on from her son. This means that she will not have to do anything and things will be back to status quo, including her behavior with Imlie. But now Imlie has a solid support system, with a lot of people behind her, biggest of which is Adi, who is willing to go against everyone just to get her the place she deserves. This makes Aparna feel even more like things are going out of hand, so she tries getting more vicious to convince herself and others that Imlie is not worth being with them because of her paidaish. She is trying to throw everything on the wall to see what sticks. But beech beech mein that façade slips, when Imlie tries to reason with her or reach out to that mother in her who is attached to Imlie even now. That is why she reacts exactly like Adi by bargaining with her, so that again things go back to status quo.

So while I agree that Aparna's redemption will be different to Adi's, she is also suffering like Adi was. Rejecting years of conditioning and mindset is the most difficult thing to do, specially when you are challenged on your belief system everyday. You know your conditioning is wrong, but most people do not have the courage to break it easily. Imle and Adi are right now trying to chip away at that conditioning to get back the purane T family who fell in love with Imlie and still care for her even today.

So my thoughts on this one are little opposite to you looney -


so the way Aditya and Aparna are reacting are exactly same is what i think... initially may be Aditya was no against imlie in such a crass language (like gheen and all) and he may say he was just too shattered by his ego that he was mean to her.. the fact remains he never considered her his equal the same way currently aparna is not considering her.


When he got imlie home and she said she came cos she needed work he never corrected her or offered better explanation...When aparna tried ring on imlie he called her khhichad... he tells malini that imlie can pursue her studies by correspondence she doesnt need to go to collage.. he tells her during jagrata that she being in his life itself is a mistake... he also offers her money... the jolt he get when she refuses was fantastic.. till that time he refused to see her as even a human being..


all of it was worded better than the language of Aparna it still implied the same thing.. she is no where close to what he considered to be his class... he was ok with malini cos she was not behaving as per her class .. if she had he would not have ever perused her..


APS is write about the control aparna wants in her life.. if u see from aparna's perspective.. Aditya has broken is marriage for a village girl who belongs to lower statue and is illegitimated sister of his ex-wife. she has never seen this side of her son and for lack of better words she is scared of this Aditya.. she is scared of madness/ junoon she is seeing in him. Basic human nature is to hurt when hurting and try everything under the sun to make happen what you believe is right and true.. Aparna is holding on to two things which are currently against imlie.. her parental truth and her social status.. both which are not controlled by Imlie.. u dont choose your parents and and u dont choose where u r born and Aparna knows this..


what you can control is your own life and imlie is exceling in it.. she is reat student.. she is fantastic house help.. she is a glue that is holding the family together and not just family she has even supported malini after KC truth.. that makes her just undeniably lovable and well suited DIL... aparna knows this and even acknowledges it.. so her redemption will be way different that of Aditya..


Aditya had to start from first seeing imlie as a human being.. he has to start by seeing that in the whole mess the actual victim was Imlie and she stool tall in face of adversity.. be it him, society and even some tamncha dhaari insaan.. once he saw that she was everything he refused to believe then he developed love for her..


Aparna already loves imlie.. all sr Ts do.. Aparna just needs to let loose of her fears.. fears of society.. fears of answering some random stranger.. and embrace her inner mama bear for her both children Aditya and Imlie.. and that will be much easier task than what aditya had to go through..


i hope i made some sense in all this..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Whatever765

Oh Walter White-he had no road back to redemption. period. Walt became the evil. We knew he will not go down in glory but blaze...that is how morality plays...I do not think we can really bring that comparison here...but I loved that you reminded me of one of the best shows I have watched so far! These are shows with strong character arcs. This is iTV man..,TRP drives everything. They can change a character overnight because junta janardhan!

@Bold1: These are the same folks who did a suicide track and we saw their level of sensitvity there..so too much to expect. But like you said, ITV rating is directly proportional to melodrama. Unfortunately to maintain that quotient and mass appeal they will make this go down many such dark alleys. People like us can just eat that pill, rant here with this lovely grp, make some funnies..😊

I just use the forward power on T's nowdays. I do not approve of their nonsense...I just get the gist and move on. Unless ofcourse AKT/Imlie/Nishant/Rupi di are trying to make a point to these seniors.

I still think the makers could/should take an episode or two to give Adi and Imlie and opportunity to talk. That moment of wrath that Aparna unleashed was not the moment...with the way things are going it still isn't. And this is where I am hoping (and the joke probably will be on me) that at some point the makers will give us a scene similar to Adi's confession/recollection/ reaffirmation to Sk and Meethi in the lodge. It is so crucial.

Oh well..it is hodgepodge right now..but something tells me not to get to the breaking point yet...Out of the doubt that fills my mind..I somehow find, Imlie and Adi will keep me inclined! 😆


Bold 1: I know we cant do a comparison as such, but there are certain scenes that forever haunt you- Walters scene did that to me. My bad! Talking about character arcs, I really loved Adi's realisation track. Those 100 episodes got me hooked up to the show like anything. can't believe those writers are serving us this!

Bold 2: Aah yes! a suicide to glorify didi mahanta...how adorable was that! Will never forget

Bold 3: Aditya-Imlie, Thats the only silver lining I see at this point! and yes Sundar too! 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Loony_lovegood


Bold 1: I know we cant do a comparison as such, but there are certain scenes that forever haunt you- Walters scene did that to me. My bad! Talking about character arcs, I really loved Adi's realisation track. Those 100 episodes got me hooked up to the show like anything. can't believe those writers are serving us this!

Bold 2: Aah yes! a suicide to glorify didi mahanta...how adorable was that! Will never forget

Bold 3: Aditya-Imlie, Thats the only silver lining I see at this point! and yes Sundar too! 😆


Oh I should have said it in my original post. I will forever be is awe of Imlie for giving AKT! Strongest character arc ever on ITV! Like have said in one post of mine he is Flaw-some and continues to be so!

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: _Seera_

So my thoughts on this one are little opposite to you looney -


so the way Aditya and Aparna are reacting are exactly same is what i think... initially may be Aditya was no against imlie in such a crass language (like gheen and all) and he may say he was just too shattered by his ego that he was mean to her.. the fact remains he never considered her his equal the same way currently aparna is not considering her.


When he got imlie home and she said she came cos she needed work he never corrected her or offered better explanation...When aparna tried ring on imlie he called her khhichad... he tells malini that imlie can pursue her studies by correspondence she doesnt need to go to collage.. he tells her during jagrata that she being in his life itself is a mistake... he also offers her money... the jolt he get when she refuses was fantastic.. till that time he refused to see her as even a human being..


all of it was worded better than the language of Aparna it still implied the same thing.. she is no where close to what he considered to be his class... he was ok with malini cos she was not behaving as per her class .. if she had he would not have ever perused her..


APS is write about the control aparna wants in her life.. if u see from aparna's perspective.. Aditya has broken is marriage for a village girl who belongs to lower statue and is illegitimated sister of his ex-wife. she has never seen this side of her son and for lack of better words she is scared of this Aditya.. she is scared of madness/ junoon she is seeing in him. Basic human nature is to hurt when hurting and try everything under the sun to make happen what you believe is right and true.. Aparna is holding on to two things which are currently against imlie.. her parental truth and her social status.. both which are not controlled by Imlie.. u dont choose your parents and and u dont choose where u r born and Aparna knows this..


what you can control is your own life and imlie is exceling in it.. she is reat student.. she is fantastic house help.. she is a glue that is holding the family together and not just family she has even supported malini after KC truth.. that makes her just undeniably lovable and well suited DIL... aparna knows this and even acknowledges it.. so her redemption will be way different that of Aditya..


Aditya had to start from first seeing imlie as a human being.. he has to start by seeing that in the whole mess the actual victim was Imlie and she stool tall in face of adversity.. be it him, society and even some tamncha dhaari insaan.. once he saw that she was everything he refused to believe then he developed love for her..


Aparna already loves imlie.. all sr Ts do.. Aparna just needs to let loose of her fears.. fears of society.. fears of answering some random stranger.. and embrace her inner mama bear for her both children Aditya and Imlie.. and that will be much easier task than what aditya had to go through..


i hope i made some sense in all this..


Thanks for responding Seera ji. 🤗

As i mentioned in my previous post, I didnt deny that Adi and Apu were having different denial mechanisms. I said, they are actually similar in processing their thoughts. Let me break it down, and try to see if that makes sense.

For Adi and Aparna there were 2 main things that acted as agents that made them lash out to Imlie

1. False Pride/Ego

2. Lies

Adi himself confessed that seeing Imlie everyday reminded of his helplessness at having married on gunpoint which hurt his male ego/pride. While for Adi this ego emerged from his helplessness at that situation, for Apu, her pride took a hit when she realised her own son married a mamuli "naukarani" who she considered below her class and prejudice. This was rooted from the social conditioning that happened to her.

Adi was frustrated at not being able to tell the truth about Imlie to anyone in his house because he knew he will be sabotaging his married life with Malini. While Apu is concerned about hiding the truth about Imlie's identity and class to the society to preserve her social status, again because of her classist mindset.

Taking these two factors, eventhough both of them went through the same journey, their insults were based on two different things altogether. While it was helplessness and guilt at not being true to himself for Adi, it was solely the social conditioning about her class, status and prejudices for Apu which is the most toxic one. Even though we can defend saying that its been there since generations and its difficult to come out of it, the thought itself is morally wrong. There is no way we can justify that. Thats why I said though their journey are same, Apu's path of redemption will be tougher than Adi's. They are two poles when it comes to their ethics and values.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Loony_lovegood


Thanks for responding Seera ji. 🤗

As i mentioned in my previous post, I didnt deny that Adi and Apu were having different denial mechanisms. I said, they are actually similar in processing their thoughts. Let me break it down, and try to see if that makes sense.

For Adi and Aparna there were 2 main things that acted as agents that made them lash out to Imlie

1. False Pride/Ego

2. Lies

Adi himself confessed that seeing Imlie everyday reminded of his helplessness at having married on gunpoint which hurt his male ego/pride. While for Adi this ego emerged from his helplessness at that situation, for Apu, her pride took a hit when she realised her own son married a mamuli "naukarani" who she considered below her class and prejudice. This was rooted from the social conditioning that happened to her.

Adi was frustrated at not being able to tell the truth about Imlie to anyone in his house because he knew he will be sabotaging his married life with Malini. While Apu is concerned about hiding the truth about Imlie's identity and class to the society to preserve her social status, again because of her classist mindset.

Taking these two factors, eventhough both of them went through the same journey, their insults were based on two different things altogether. While it was helplessness and guilt at not being true to himself for Adi, it was solely the social conditioning about her class, status and prejudices for Apu which is the most toxic one. Even though we can defend saying that its been there since generations and its difficult to come out of it, the thought itself is morally wrong. There is no way we can justify that. Thats why I said though their journey are same, Apu's path of redemption will be tougher than Adi's. They are two poles when it comes to their ethics and values.

no i dont think aparna is acting on prejudice of just class n status.. they r being used as tools to seperate Aditya and Imlie.. she is acting more on the anger about loosing control and failing relationship of her son.. her redemption is easier than that of Aditya..


aditya actaully considered class n status of Imlie.. aparna didnt need it before.. its just now she is parroting these lines cos anu said so..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Whatever765

Oh nim_var...same argument man...what is the rush? Why are we getting so many disconnects...

Even Adi and Imlie ka platonic is only tonic without the gin!


Lol Whatever ji... so true....

As per BTS, Adi reveals at the college that Imlie is his wife.. wah wah.

But before that can we get some proper convo between pati - patni... nahi na... 😭

Give it another 3 - 4 months for show to end...

Hamara ka hoyee??? 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: nim_var


Lol Whatever ji... so true....

As per BTS, Adi reveals at the college that Imlie is his wife.. wah wah.

But before that can we get some proper convo between pati - patni... nahi na... 😭

Give it another 3 - 4 months for show to end...

Hamara ka hoyee??? 😆


What ????? Show is ending in 3 or 4 months?? ????😭

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: wizardofoz2


What ????? Show is ending in 3 or 4 months?? ????😭


Just speculation dear.... we do not know...

The tracks and truth reveal is moving very fast... then what do the makers show????

a few pages back... comment of about a year... let us see..

I would like it to continue for longer as we have a great cast n solid plot.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: nim_var


Just speculation dear.... we do not know...

The tracks and truth reveal is moving very fast... then what do the makers show????

a few pages back... comment of about a year... let us see..

I would like it to continue for longer as we have a great cast n solid plot.


This is a daily thats doing great on the trp chart. So not likely it will end soon. But yeah like you said who knows..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: wizardofoz2


Haan yaar after the very dramatic move to kona they could have shown us a follow up scene of imlie adi discussing the repercussions of his action. Adi comforting an anxious imaliya would have nice. Continuity expect karna will be too much going forward😆.

D se drama ke chalte, D se discontinuity aur uske vajah se D se disappointment on our D couple Adilie but we shall get to see D se dhakkad AkT and Imlie! Bas such is Imlie life now..one episode at a time!

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