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Posted: 4 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV

We clearly saw today that his is just blind love for Keerthi, same as Pallavi had for Deshmukh’s


He melted as soon as he saw her crying so it will take time for him to realize her truth

After seeing the Precap I found it really hard to realize that Raghav is supporting Keerthi


It was a hit and run case 😣 it’s just his blind love


he’ll have a rude awakening soon


just like pallavi did about him today, she really did fall into a wifey mode and started dreaming about her life

Raghav will have to realize her importance as well and Pallavi will have to understand what it means to be his wife




Me to kab se keh rahi hu ki it is his blind love for his sister.

Siblings love s blind.


Hit and run tab hota jab wo mandar ko nai leke jata. Kirti did hit and run but he rectified d mistake.


And pallavi bhi galat he we need to accept that too. Agar kirti khud se confess kar deti to he would have done something else may be. But pallu conned her into confessing. Agar galti hai to dono ka hai.


He has already realised her importance in his life his crying for her n his guilt n everything s for pallavi not for kirti. For kirti it s his responsibility as a brother.


Agar he would have not understood pallavi's importance he would have long back closed d case n done hush hush for it. He didn't do it he only stopped d roads going to kirti.

He has kept d way to him open. U cannot expect him to turn his back on kirti because he is married. Kirti s his sister looking out for her is his role as a brother. Even tough d said sister doesnt deserve an ounce of d love. Still.


Ddnt pallavi do d same with Deshmukh's. Jab galat dono hai to bashing sirf anna ki kyu..


Pallavi s not wrong in seeking justice.

Raghav s not doing all that he s doing with pride either. It was eveident in his eyes when he said i ll also choose my sister.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#92

What Raghav did is unfair, but that's what most people would do for their families.

I am sure Raghav loves Pallavi enough that he would have done the same, had Pallavi been involved in similar circumstances

Anecdotal, my brother hit a drunk man on a highway ( it was the drunk guys fault ) , my dad immediately switched places with my brother before rushing to see the man , fortunately that person survived and he didn't even need hospitalisation .

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Posted: 4 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: DivyaaaV


I think it’s going to be smth to do with Amma

She’ll figure out it’s Keerthi and he’ll turn himself in to save her


at least I’m hoping that’s how it goes, pallavi will never send him to jail

And when this happens Pallavi might get angry and do the gun stunt


Pallavi will not send him but he might turn himself to stop Pallavi from further digging the case to push Keerthi

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Posted: 4 years ago
#94

Originally posted by: Doc

he was always grey i agree..but at least he should keep in mind what keerti did for him.in.past..what is his imporatnce in so called on.his.own.family



Ye pallavi.k.ane k baad usko itni footage mil ri hai werna..mun nhi lagata usko koi..

And.one thing more wo kitna.bhi.bachaley..

Hit and run case mei keerti jayegi ander...

So whats the use of ruining his relation with his wife ..

P.s mandar kaha mara hai.wo to anna k hosh thikane lagane ayega


@merun...

U all are getting it wrong.

Jab usko bhav nai milta tha tabhi wo wahi karta his feelings for his family were always there. And there was genuine affection it is not like he didn't value his family before pallavi. Pallavi's entry brought him close to his amma only kirti s still downright nasty to him bhai bhai and al wo sunny bunny ke ishare pe kar rahi hai n raghav knows this too.. if pallu would have made him see importance of family it would have been an altogether different senario. Pallu sirf unki nazar me RR Ki importance layi.

RR ki nazar me family was always his first priority. He has always said me apna amma aur kirti ki khushi ke liye kuch bhi karega.


Bachpan se he has grown up with her loved her cared for her watched out for her suddenly biwi ke aate hi uske liye nai uske ke ex pati ke liye use jail bhijwa dega kya. This s too much to expect from him.


If she would have hit n run on pallavi it would have been a different moral selima but yaha to mudda kuch aur hai aur sab bol kuch aur rahe hain.


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Rahi baat mandar bandar ki to anna ko realisation ke liye iski zarurat nahi hai. Usne poore Joshi hawaz me pallavi ko bola mein tumhi nai khosakta. Realisation to use bahut pehle se hai but abhi uspe focus karne ka time nai hai.

lot of loose ends to be tied before he jumps inthe love fire.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: inlieu

Aside from the non-stop loud bgm everything was perfect in the episode.

In a different situation, Pallavi might have felt betrayed but he had made it clear from the beginning that he was going to protect Keerti. I just don't think she expected him to go that extent. Never mind the fact that she was careless about the pen.


I have always wanted to see Raghav hear directly from Pallavi how she felt as a woman, as a new bride, when her dreams also died the night Mandaar died, how she had to deal with the aftermath, and how she was hurting all this time, something she's never really discussed. So glad we got that today. She wasn't verbose but said just enough for us to understand which aspects of her widowhood had been tough for her to handle and how important closure was. It had the same vibe as the maar daalo mujhe Raghav scene.

Raghav's reaction showed that he had understood all this a long time ago, even before today's confrontation. If you think back to how he's been burdened by guilt since he first found out about Mandaar's accident, it all makes sense. He'd foreseen all this, which is why what's happening now is not a surprise but hurts both of them just as he had expected it to. I could understand why he was struggling to look her in the eye or stand in the hall and see her in tears.

I loved how they showed both characters hurting, while contrasting their ways of expressing themselves. Pallavi was letting out all her pent-up emotions and concerns, while Raghav's was quieter, fewer words and to the point, but still conveying the main ideas he was struggling with.

I'm glad he brought up the abortion fiasco and drew parallels like we were doing here. One thing that many people don't mention in that regard is that the abortion also involved the loss of an innocent life. Of course the repercussions for the rest of the family were different. This is not a debate about being pro-choice or against, that is a matter for another discussion, perhaps another thread. It's just a fact and that's what they subtly brought it in today. I liked that he didn't disparage Amruta or BWA but was focusing more on what Pallavi's mindset was when she tried to keep it under wraps. Like Amruta relied on BWA or Pallavi, Keerti seems to be overconfident that her brother will save her from punishment. I wonder if she's playing on his guilt about what happened 10 years ago or if she genuinely believes she deserves to be saved.

It was good to see Pallavi asking Raghav if she wasn't his family too. I don't think she got it that when he talked about saving his family, he was including her too. If Keerti goes to jail, Raghav will be mentally and emotionally finished, as will Amma from the looks of things. What family can he offer her then? He is in a completely different headspace but since he's never really discussed this with her, she hasn't seen that perspective. I understand her being goal-oriented and wanting to punish the offender, it makes sense and it's the morally right thing to do, but ironically, as she was talking about him learning about relationships from her but not about standing by the truth, she failed to see that even when it come to the truth, there are two sides to the coin. In this situation, it's not quite black and white as she believes it to be.


Damn, both of them are in such a tight spot it hurts to see them this way.

I might get bashed for this but I still want to say something about Pallavi's outburst today. She made it sound as if he didn't care about her emotions and that what he was doing to protect Keerti was totally steamrolling over her pain. That was not the case and I was glad to hear that expressed in his quiet main tumhara dard samajhta hai Pallavi, followed by him explaining how he couldn't take another destruction in his family while already battling with the guilt and trauma of the death of his family members. I had always felt that he still has a loooooooooooooooong way to go before he can overcome the trauma of losing his father and brother, and that reconciling with Amma wouldn't be enough, but I am so glad that they touched upon that today, albeit briefly.


Everyone's been talking about the effect of all this on Keerti's life or Raghav's or Pallavi's or the Ds, but what about Amma. How is she going to feel losing another jail this time to a prison sentence? I found her initial reaction natural because she was completely caught off guard, but I also loved how she calmed down in the room to think things through and pay closer attention to what was happening around. Props to Jaya for asking Raghav to help Pallavi, she didn't disappoint. It takes a LOT to make that kind of judgment call, that too in such a short period of time. I think her first reaction was aimed at the TRP audience who would've expected such a thing from her and potentially see her turn against her bahu, but the follow up was for the core audience of the show.


I am wondering if Raghav will change his mind about Keerti because of what Amma says or because he has already made up his mind but is keeping his cards close to his chest. Knowing his nature, either of those would make sense.


So it looks like Pallavi finds a way to barge into jail but something has also happened that makes Raghav feel ok about telling her what happened that night when she probes him for details. I think these two work best when the have these meaningful discussions. I wish Pallavi had done so from the start with Raghav instead of bulldozing through his action in her efforts at getting justice, but I also understand that she's struggling to handle her emotions right now and is focusing on the end, not the means.


I don't want to talk about Keerti because I'm reserving my judgement about her motivations until the truth is out. I feel as if what Raghav told Pallavi plus Keerti's reaction in the precap is what will make Pallavi start to think about the other side of the coin that she hasn't considered. I also think that through this track, Pallavi will start to be more accepting of the fact that rather than truth being an absolute, one can be on any point on the spectrum. What happened on that night is a fact, but how the people felt and reacted to it is not black or white.

Isi liye I can't directly bash either Raghav or Pallavi. Pallavi rushed in calling the police while Raghav is doing everything to keep his sister away from jail when she deserves to be punished, either for direct hit-and-run or for being the witness and accomplice.

Both are in emotional conflict. But one thing I have to give it to Jayati is that she's been a constant supporter of Pallavi till now, even in the worst of circumstances. 👏

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Posted: 4 years ago
#96

Makers pls give more screen space to Farhad than Sunki.I really wanted him to be present at RR mansion in today's episode

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Posted: 4 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: Doc

yes the issue is that k.jo.asani.se mil jaye uski qadar nhi..

Zimdagi mei...

Aur keerti usko as a sis abhi tak nhi mili hai..

Aur pallu usko us k sath sab ghalat ker k bhi mil gye hai..

The differnece is that...

Matlab.sunny usko insult kerta hai(pallu ko)


Dnt u think..ragahv doesnt know what type of character sunny is .

But what he did..

He gave a shut up call 😭😭

To her.k.mera behn mjhe buhat din bad mila hai..to gadhe behn mil gye hai to.biwi ki importance kachra kerdugai 😡😡


Yar doctor tum to Raghav pe rashan pani lekar chad gaye ho.

Sunny ne pallu ko insult kiya ye Raghav ko thodi na pata hai. 😴

Usne pocha tha pallu se kuch hua kya u r upset front he time we came from sunny house but mahanta ka ki murati ne use kuch nai bataya. Ab kiski galti hui. Pallu ki. Uske(sunny) ke ghar me jab wo raghvi ki shadi ka insult kar raha tha Raghav shut him up saying we r not here to discuss our marriage end of topic.


Ab merun k liye.

Pallavi ko apne family se mila ne ke liye he has done more than he could do. There s no doubt in that. Aur behen mili nai hai use abhi bhi.

Kab importance nai di. He did discuss with pallavi after that only he decided to give chance to sunny bunny. Pallu said to him so he agreed on her belief. Uske baat ko izzat diya.

Engagement ki jaldi me usne pallu ko hurt kiya but pallu gave him back in that scene itself which i really loved.

Kachra kaha kiya. Kuch nai kiya usne pallavi ko. Jane diya use jab usne dhoke se uski behan se confession karwaya. Jane diya use jab usne uski maa se pocha if she has done accident. All these don't count in mistakes i gues.


Kya yaar agar critiaize karna hi hai to fairly karo. Ek palada bhari kyu. Raghav said so many times i want to change for u. He fasted for her he took care of her took insults for her god slapped by her family sab bhool bhool bhool gaye hai kya. Kachra hi karna tha to wo itna kuch nai karta. He clearly said u r important for me. I want to change for u. Pata nai kyu sab bas


Rashan pani leke chad gaye hain Raghav pe.


He didn't insult pallavi at al. Infact he very gracefully sent the police back without creating drama. He took stand for her when Farhad was shouting on her. Ye sab nai dikh raha hai kya sabko.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#98

Originally posted by: inlieu

Aside from the non-stop loud bgm everything was perfect in the episode.

In a different situation, Pallavi might have felt betrayed but he had made it clear from the beginning that he was going to protect Keerti. I just don't think she expected him to go that extent. Never mind the fact that she was careless about the pen.


I have always wanted to see Raghav hear directly from Pallavi how she felt as a woman, as a new bride, when her dreams also died the night Mandaar died, how she had to deal with the aftermath, and how she was hurting all this time, something she's never really discussed. So glad we got that today. She wasn't verbose but said just enough for us to understand which aspects of her widowhood had been tough for her to handle and how important closure was. It had the same vibe as the maar daalo mujhe Raghav scene.

Raghav's reaction showed that he had understood all this a long time ago, even before today's confrontation. If you think back to how he's been burdened by guilt since he first found out about Mandaar's accident, it all makes sense. He'd foreseen all this, which is why what's happening now is not a surprise but hurts both of them just as he had expected it to. I could understand why he was struggling to look her in the eye or stand in the hall and see her in tears.

I loved how they showed both characters hurting, while contrasting their ways of expressing themselves. Pallavi was letting out all her pent-up emotions and concerns, while Raghav's was quieter, fewer words and to the point, but still conveying the main ideas he was struggling with.

I'm glad he brought up the abortion fiasco and drew parallels like we were doing here. One thing that many people don't mention in that regard is that the abortion also involved the loss of an innocent life. Of course the repercussions for the rest of the family were different. This is not a debate about being pro-choice or against, that is a matter for another discussion, perhaps another thread. It's just a fact and that's what they subtly brought it in today. I liked that he didn't disparage Amruta or BWA but was focusing more on what Pallavi's mindset was when she tried to keep it under wraps. Like Amruta relied on BWA or Pallavi, Keerti seems to be overconfident that her brother will save her from punishment. I wonder if she's playing on his guilt about what happened 10 years ago or if she genuinely believes she deserves to be saved.

It was good to see Pallavi asking Raghav if she wasn't his family too. I don't think she got it that when he talked about saving his family, he was including her too. If Keerti goes to jail, Raghav will be mentally and emotionally finished, as will Amma from the looks of things. What family can he offer her then? He is in a completely different headspace but since he's never really discussed this with her, she hasn't seen that perspective. I understand her being goal-oriented and wanting to punish the offender, it makes sense and it's the morally right thing to do, but ironically, as she was talking about him learning about relationships from her but not about standing by the truth, she failed to see that even when it come to the truth, there are two sides to the coin. In this situation, it's not quite black and white as she believes it to be.


Damn, both of them are in such a tight spot it hurts to see them this way.

I might get bashed for this but I still want to say something about Pallavi's outburst today. She made it sound as if he didn't care about her emotions and that what he was doing to protect Keerti was totally steamrolling over her pain. That was not the case and I was glad to hear that expressed in his quiet main tumhara dard samajhta hai Pallavi, followed by him explaining how he couldn't take another destruction in his family while already battling with the guilt and trauma of the death of his family members. I had always felt that he still has a loooooooooooooooong way to go before he can overcome the trauma of losing his father and brother, and that reconciling with Amma wouldn't be enough, but I am so glad that they touched upon that today, albeit briefly.


Everyone's been talking about the effect of all this on Keerti's life or Raghav's or Pallavi's or the Ds, but what about Amma. How is she going to feel losing another jail this time to a prison sentence? I found her initial reaction natural because she was completely caught off guard, but I also loved how she calmed down in the room to think things through and pay closer attention to what was happening around. Props to Jaya for asking Raghav to help Pallavi, she didn't disappoint. It takes a LOT to make that kind of judgment call, that too in such a short period of time. I think her first reaction was aimed at the TRP audience who would've expected such a thing from her and potentially see her turn against her bahu, but the follow up was for the core audience of the show.


I am wondering if Raghav will change his mind about Keerti because of what Amma says or because he has already made up his mind but is keeping his cards close to his chest. Knowing his nature, either of those would make sense.


So it looks like Pallavi finds a way to barge into jail but something has also happened that makes Raghav feel ok about telling her what happened that night when she probes him for details. I think these two work best when the have these meaningful discussions. I wish Pallavi had done so from the start with Raghav instead of bulldozing through his action in her efforts at getting justice, but I also understand that she's struggling to handle her emotions right now and is focusing on the end, not the means.


I don't want to talk about Keerti because I'm reserving my judgement about her motivations until the truth is out. I feel as if what Raghav told Pallavi plus Keerti's reaction in the precap is what will make Pallavi start to think about the other side of the coin that she hasn't considered. I also think that through this track, Pallavi will start to be more accepting of the fact that rather than truth being an absolute, one can be on any point on the spectrum. What happened on that night is a fact, but how the people felt and reacted to it is not black or white.

What a beautiful analysis of characters Jean.👏You are truly a gifted writer. ❤️

I agree with all your points here.

Would like to add one more thing about abortion fiasco. By taking the blame on herself Pallavi had indirectly caused harm to Raghav too who was completely innocent. Considering RRs status in society the scandal had the potential to destroy his years of hard work.

Pallavi has a long way to go in this relationship. I really want to her open her eyes and see Raghav for what he really is. I don't think she has any idea how deep his emotions run.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jiarao

What a beautiful analysis of characters Jean.👏You are truly a gifted writer. ❤️

I agree with all your points here.

Would like to add one more thing about abortion fiasco. By taking the blame on herself Pallavi had indirectly caused harm to Raghav too who was completely innocent. Considering RRs status in society the scandal had the potential to destroy his years of hard work.

Pallavi has a long way to go in this relationship. I really want to her open her eyes and see Raghav for what he really is. I don't think she has any idea how deep his emotions run.


Agar kuch hota hai life me to collateral damage hamesha hota hai. No o e is ever spared from d collateral damage.

Raghav here is trying to control as much less collateral damage as possible. He s trying to support both but it s not possible n it s not right also. He knows it it not right too.

But in life we always choose path which has less chances of damage than choosing the path which s morally right.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

@bold, if nothing else that scene alone should tell everyone how agonizing it is for him to be in that position, to be hurting so much not just because of the dilemma but also for being the cause of her pain by his current actions. He knew how this was going to play out. He's not surprised by any of it.

I don't want her to return to Mandaar because it's her only option. I'd rather she stay alone than with a husband who she can't see a future with. If she goes to Mandaar it should be for who he is and what she believes she can build with him as a good life. With Raghav, I don't think she's ever discussed it, which is part of the problem, and if Mandaar appears soon, then chances are they won't have time for this discussion before the legal drama begins about who's wife she is.

I think this is the first time I don't mind FL choosing someone who she sees fit for her, provided CVs show Mandar a good guy... If the show was provided with a chance for 1000 episodes and so, then the end game will be Raghav and Pallavi but if they will wrap in limited episodes, they can show dynamics and need not be a happy ending.. don't bash me for saying this but this is just my thought...

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