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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: Whatever765


Well said Aps! Imlie is beyond exhausted and so is Adi. Even though Adi was rock solid for her...he is scared because no matter how hard they try, the guilt is always 2 steps ahead of them. Sumbul nailed that breakdown scene so perfectly. A 19 years old is tired...tired of the truth, the world's perception...she is dejected when she says- "tutne ka bhi haq nahi hai and baarish ke paani mein ghul jaayen.."

This whole thing about suhaag and pati nahi baata karte-...Imlie ofcourse is caught in a web of delusions herself and that is where it is coming from. But maybe that is where Adi/Rupi di/Nishant will have to give her that perspective that what she is thinking is not the right way of looking at things. Yes, she was the one who gave away her rights, but at that point wasn't it the circumstances. Malini was weak. Adi had not realized his love for Imlie- they did what was right at that point of time. And we have atleast 50 episodes to prove that both Imlie and Adi tried to keep doing the right thing even though destiny kept giving them the allusion and kept increasing Malini's delusion! Sigh, the complicated web of emotions/relations these three lives are entangled in. Malini's lie of KC is going to make things only worse for them.


@Bold: Agree with you. He is not scared to talk to Imlie...He is scared of how Imlie is going to respond in this situation and he just admitted that to Rupi di. She offered to talk, Adi agreed, probably he thinks Imlie needs a friend, a sister like figure at this point.


Now I have a question- Will Imlie try to find Malini didi so she can tell her the truth that just got revealed and the truth that Malini already knows?

@bold :I have no faith in Malini . That women will not tell a single sentence to uplift imlie. Even I doubt she tell she knows the truth. She will make imlie more guilty… by pointing out all this happen due to my misfortune and all…. I really lost hope in that character.

I think Only based on KC MC heartfelt dialogue we will get an idea where this Malini goes… makers are generous enough to prop up didi so we will get this …

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Apsvenky

Okay, finally saw the whole episode and I am ready to give my 2 cents, specifically after reading the alternate theories going around.

1. Imlie's rant was not just expected, but justified from her character's point of view. Whether she likes it or not, her truth will always have to face the harsh winds of the society she has to live in. That same society prefers to believe easy lies over difficult truths because it is convenient for them. I loved how she said that she was tired. That sense of helplessness and frustration has tired her to the point of exhaustion. The dialogue about being made to share her husband was uncalled for, but again true from her point of view. Destiny has played a cruel joke where both sisters love the same person and Imlie is feeling the weight of that today, more so than any other time.

2. The entire suhaag stealer speil. - Okay, unpopular opinion, but I get where that dialogue came from. I do not like it or agree with it, but I am trying to understand the thought process behind it. While we all agree that Imlie is the first wife legally & she did not steal anything. But the fact that she not only saw but actually allowed for Adi to marry Malini means that at that time in a way she gave away those rights in the eyes of the world. Now that Adi loves her and wants to be with her, even when the truth of their marriage comes out, the society is likely to still hold Imlie responsible for Adi & Malini's divorce. Reason being that they will always say that when she gave away her rights on Adi, why is she now taking it back just because Adi says so. This is how society will perceive it, no matter what the actual equation is between the characters.

In Imlie's case she feels that she will be put in the same bracket as her mom, despite doing nothing wrong and despite her situation being very different from her mother's. Also, Imlie still feels that she is taking Adi from Malini. While Adi never loved Malini, Imlie has always been shown that he genuinely did at one point of time. Like she said, Imlie was his zimmedari while Malini was his choice. Also the girl who said once that "Humne aaj tak kisi kai ek paisa nahi liya hai, kisika pyaar kaise cheen le" is bound to feel that much more guilty on finding out that the person whose "husband" (In quotes because he is not, but for Imlie he used to be) has left her because of Imlie, is going to have a very hard time accepting otherwise.


Apuji kya baat hai!!!


@Bold 1 - Imlieis beyond tiered.. imagine fighting the same fight everyday of you life.. to prove to the world that your existence is not some sin but you have all the rights to be here with ot without your father's name.. expecting a 19 year old to stand tall.. not doubt selfworth or not consider worst case scenarios is not justified!


@bold2 - i agree here with you.. same with me i do understand she is his first wife but she had no rights (given by Aditya, taken by her) .. she accepted Aditya's marriage.. the marriage would have broken with or without imlie but for a sharmaji staying next door it will be Aditya malini had love marriage, imlie came to stay.. A-M divorced and then A-I married.. so who stole whos husband? its just nasty thinking of society and imlie is going there as she has endured it...


Aditya and malini both have not sat down and had a conversation about why they drifted apart.. IImlie needs to be part of that.. Aditya saying he changed doesnt mean anything to imlie (i am being sarcastic here so dont throw chappals) as she thinks he is looking from lense of love.. so when the fact that they were just incompatible as Anu n Dev will make imlie understand her BS better and their situation better..


Imlie n Mithi comepletely different problems but result is the same.. public humiliation.. writers may have made a mistake by not giving that exact lines to them but thats what i feel.. it was sense of no public respect..


Loved reading your analysis..


but can someone please explain me why Continuity is a problem? i just want summary 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: _Seera_

Apuji kya baat hai!!!


@Bold 1 - Imlieis beyond tiered.. imagine fighting the same fight everyday of you life.. to prove to the world that your existence is not some sin but you have all the rights to be here with ot without your father's name.. expecting a 19 year old to stand tall.. not doubt selfworth or not consider worst case scenarios is not justified!


@bold2 - i agree here with you.. same with me i do understand she is his first wife but she had no rights (given by Aditya, taken by her) .. she accepted Aditya's marriage.. the marriage would have broken with or without imlie but for a sharmaji staying next door it will be Aditya malini had love marriage, imlie came to stay.. A-M divorced and then A-I married.. so who stole whos husband? its just nasty thinking of society and imlie is going there as she has endured it...


Aditya and malini both have not sat down and had a conversation about why they drifted apart.. IImlie needs to be part of that.. Aditya saying he changed doesnt mean anything to imlie (i am being sarcastic here so dont throw chappals) as she thinks he is looking from lense of love.. so when the fact that they were just incompatible as Anu n Dev will make imlie understand her BS better and their situation better..


Imlie n Mithi comepletely different problems but result is the same.. public humiliation.. writers may have made a mistake by not giving that exact lines to them but thats what i feel.. it was sense of no public respect..


Loved reading your analysis..


but can someone please explain me why Continuity is a problem? i just want summary 😆

First I am going to share what I mentioned in AY's post regarding continuity, then will write another post to discuss some of the points you mentioned.

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I actually initially reacted very strongly to this, especially after the first watch, when I could not understand the disconnect that everyone was talking about. But after watching it the second time, I was able to better make sense of what the outrage was on. On my first watch it seemed like he was just voicing his general worries, specifically knowing Imlie's tendency to flip. But on the repeat watch the disconnect made sense. Like you guys were saying, there was absolutely no reason for him to have that conversation with Rupi di when he did because Imlie had given him no inclination that she was even thinking of going away or sacrificing their relationship and he himself kept reiterating to everyone who knows the truth that he will fight against anyone and everyone but not let her go.


Something tells be here the edit team has missed out a scene that would explain his reasoning, but may be it is just me trying to make sense of why the actors were willing to talk like that with no reference point.


The sudden cut to the T family not witnessing anything or not noticing that Ad and Imlie and the family were missing in the entire puja also felt a bit off to me.


Finally with the Meethi and SK scenes, where the dialogues on second watch just sounded absurd (did not pay detailed attention on the first watch, so my bad on that one), built into the overall disconnect.


All the above did ruin a pivotal episode which could have gone really well had they just done a better job on the dialogues and the editing.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Midnight_moon

@bold :I have no faith in Malini . That women will not tell a single sentence to uplift imlie. Even I doubt she tell she knows the truth. She will make imlie more guilty… by pointing out all this happen due to my misfortune and all…. I really lost hope in that character.

I think Only based on KC MC heartfelt dialogue we will get an idea where this Malini goes… makers are generous enough to prop up didi so we will get this …


My question was not so much for Malini..... I am more inclined towards how Imlie handles this. We saw yesterday that she raised the question on how will Malini didi feel when she knows...so will Imlie at this point want to tell Malini didi that she is her actual wali, bandhan wali didi! Malini is messed up and her lie about KC is going to mess things up for all three of them. Just thinking on how Imlie and Malini interaction will be after this truth reveal. Will they even discuss this truth ya will they just keep hiding it from each other...And you are right - the conversation may turn to prop up didi...by the makers via Imlie. So does this mean Imlie's guilt will be two fold more because she will then realize that Malini already knew about it too...😔


I am the odd one of the forum maybe- I do not see Malini as a toxic person, she is delusional, weak, pretentious at times, egoistic too given the society and her upbringing, definitely does not think before she acts...and that is all I see to that character... But that does not mean I affirm to her actions or makers trying to give her the upper hand or prop her up for the sake of gaining sympathy for her....I usually just ignore any discussion on Malini because like any story she is the third wheel, killjoy, grinch....the makers have written such a lose character arc for Malini..ab uske baare mein kya hi baat karna na..hell I even forward her scenes mostly.😊

Edited by Whatever765 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: _Seera_

It took a while for me to watch the episode and i am just shocked at what i saw.. its like you witness something out of movie.. the entire episode was well paced.. well balanced and didi free 😆


I am still feeling soo much more and so many things that its gonna be really difficult to put it here.. but let me try...


Aditya - imlie - When all you want to do is break into million pieces and get lost int he world and you realise you cant even do that.. thats what Imlie felt today.. the wait is over to know her identity and what she finds is a long drawn fight.. fight for love, fight for respect even fight for her mere existence... all at 19 years old.. when everything seem to finally settle into a dawn after storm she realised the storm had returned with vengeance.. and she is tiered of fight.. her moral compass comes back to malini and her rights (she conveniently forgets if it was not for imlie..malini would have never got any).. she wants to fight destiny but her resignation all but there.. she resign to same fate s her own mom... and there you can see something died inside imlie today.. something broke so badly that it would not heal..


Aditya stands and witness of this but wont let her break.. or blame herself.. his assurance was needed and his promise once again healing Imlie where it is needed.. he cradles her just like she did him when he needed to draw strength from her.. they have been through a lot and the journey is long.. lets see what next phase brings..


SAtyakaam giving sahara to Mithi was so well done.. they both are real partners.. and parents to imlie and SK even says the same that till imlie needs them they will not go.. and they will wait for imlie to recover.. fantastic display of love without conditions..


Amma and Aditya conversation was beautiful.. they do look like and behave like actual mother n son.. his assurance with Sks got mitthi down from the fense and hopefully she will not give any wrog advice to Imlie.


Aditya and Rupi.. finally some use of Rupi di kowing truth and she displayed how imlie will think and she needs to be stopped.. Adityas fear are not baseless entire fandom is feeling those fears.. what if imlie left for PD again..


GM and ST take a bow... you guys are phenomenal.. you are rare finds of ITV and you deserve every award, every opportunity in future to reach the sky.


I really hope Amma gives right advice to Imlie … Malini -Dev daughter or not should not matter in Adilie relationship…it was a flawless episode just that they could had let them be in the hug for a while and chopped a bit of those loservadis yelling ..


I liked what Anu said that DC should suffer and deserves to suffer more 😂


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Posted: 4 years ago
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I did not feel continuity was a problem in today's episode. Sab flow mein hi laga mujhe😆

I could understand both Mithi and imlie's pov. They just feel it's so easy for a woman to get blamed, to carry the burden of shame even when a man is equally responsible for the situation.

Case and point Mithi being called characterless when it's Dev who cheated.

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I really hope Amma gives right advice to Imlie … Malini -Dev daughter or not should not matter in Adilie relationship…it was a flawless episode just that they could had let them be in the hug for a while and chopped a bit of those loservadis yelling ..


I liked what Anu said that DC should suffer and deserves to suffer more 😂


I really hope imlie doesn't get any relationship advice from mithi😆

Mithi has her own insecurities which rub off in Imliya.

If imlie really wants relationship advice she better get it from dadda. He is a better judge of character and worldly wise.

I was thinking Anu ne mere man ki baat boldeez 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jojo_mojo

Thank you for the amazing post Seera😃


Another fantastic episode high on emotions. Really enjoyed the performances of all actors.


Dev's betrayal shook imlie's vishaas today. She felt betrayed by everyone, including her BBSB. There was heart break in her voice as she asked him if he hid the truth from her. He told her what we all knew, that he did not tell her as Mithi did not want it and also because the truth would only shatter her.


She raged that dreams, rocks and glass can shatter. She doesn’t have the right to shatter. She wanted to come to city to find her identity, her father. But now that she found the truth, she was ashamed of her existence too. She saw her self as the result of the Dhoka. Not as the symbol of love Mithi told her she was.

The girl who proudly told BBSB that she wants to be a journalist and report the truth, become the voice of the weak was left wondering if the truth even matters. There was the truth that Mithi was cheated, Dev lied to her. But she spent her entire life getting blamed. And today she was called a characterless woman. So Dev's lies won over Mithi's truth. No one believed the truth.

She had truth to tell too. But would anyone believe her truth? Will she always be the girl who snatched away her sister's husband? Will she be blamed like her mother was? Will she have to live her life alone?

Aditya shook her to senses and told her fiercely that he will not let that happen. Mithi suffered because Dev was a coward. But he will always stand by her. He will protect her. Anyone who is against imlie is against him. Whether its Mrs C, samaj or his own family.

He did the only thing that would comfort her. Cradled her in his arms and let her cry her heart out❤️


jojo ji.. apka post miss ho gaya tha..


Aditya will have to prove again n again that he is there fro Imlie.. i know nt fair but thats whats gonna happen.. he is driver amongst the two for their relationship.. so yeh responsibility falls on his shoulder..


I watched the scene again and at the end after the kiss he presses her against him some more.. it felt like he is just hiding her from the world.. trying wash away all the pain.. i dont know it was just beautiful.. this bond will be stronger going frwd.. always


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Apsvenky

First I am going to share what I mentioned in AY's post regarding continuity, then will write another post to discuss some of the points you mentioned.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I actually initially reacted very strongly to this, especially after the first watch, when I could not understand the disconnect that everyone was talking about. But after watching it the second time, I was able to better make sense of what the outrage was on. On my first watch it seemed like he was just voicing his general worries, specifically knowing Imlie's tendency to flip. But on the repeat watch the disconnect made sense. Like you guys were saying, there was absolutely no reason for him to have that conversation with Rupi di when he did because Imlie had given him no inclination that she was even thinking of going away or sacrificing their relationship and he himself kept reiterating to everyone who knows the truth that he will fight against anyone and everyone but not let her go.


Something tells be here the edit team has missed out a scene that would explain his reasoning, but may be it is just me trying to make sense of why the actors were willing to talk like that with no reference point.


The sudden cut to the T family not witnessing anything or not noticing that Ad and Imlie and the family were missing in the entire puja also felt a bit off to me.


Finally with the Meethi and SK scenes, where the dialogues on second watch just sounded absurd (did not pay detailed attention on the first watch, so my bad on that one), built into the overall disconnect.


All the above did ruin a pivotal episode which could have gone really well had they just done a better job on the dialogues and the editing.

@bold - When has imlie told him before going away??? she has always just picked up her potli and walked away.. he doesnt have 3rd eye to keep on her aways.. BS ka luck achcha hai imlie mil jaati hai humesha warna she has neevr told him be it going to PD or coming back to Delhi so i get his worry.. i mean that me.. and my opinion.. 😆


@bold 2 - this has happened soo many times i am all ready to give it pass in name of making net 40 episodes interesting 😆


SK n Mithi.. - ok i am odd one out.. i didnt feel anything wrong with the dialogues. i felt they were coming from the same place as imlie's less self worth.. infact self loathing to certain extent.. and Mithi in general a lot weaker than imlie so 😃


waiting for your counter lady 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: jojo_mojo

I really hope imlie doesn't get any relationship advice from mithi😆

Mithi has her own insecurities which rub off in Imliya.

If imlie really wants relationship advice she better get it from dadda. He is a better judge of character and worldly wise.

I was thinking Anu ne mere man ki baat boldeez 😆

yeh agree on Amma advice part … This is first time I liked Anus prediction and wish her wish comes true 😂


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