Ghum Hain kisikey Pyaar Mein WU and Daily discussion thread no 33. - Page 59

Originally posted by: scarlett22

I think Virat is being butchered for Pakhi. Especially today, somehow it was like a Eureka moment because normally I'm focussed on Sai and Virat.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Sai's reactions and dialogues are not that different from the originals??

Normally I don't like to get into these discussions but today I have to say it is Pakhi's character that is causing Virat's butchering. Pakhi is constantly being shown as a victim. That too a victim of Virat's. ...rishta dono ne banayi to ek kaise tod sakta hai. Was indicated at Virat.

Virat is not at fault for Pakhi's messed up life. She constantly blames him...and he is never allowed to forget it.

I am going to sound like a broken record here😂. I feel the same way, the makers somehow want to show Pakhi as the Victim.

And who is writing these dialogues- rishta dono ne banaya toh ek insaam kaise tod saktha hai 😂- what rishta was she talking about since they never talked about even liking each other in that yoga camp. She decided to get married first so even if there was a rishta she broke it off and not Virat. How is she claiming she did not break off the rishta and it was broken off forcefully 😂. Even for this dialogue no dialogues for Virat what so ever , why?? Does this dialogue also mean she is characterless and married his brother and still keeping the rishta with him and sheds tears for this? Does this not bother the character Virat who loves Jeeva dearly 🤔.

The characters, their reactions and memory in this show are so messed up.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Point 1 maybe true but do they think audience forget about the past scenes aswell where Virat clearly said he cannot continue with the burden of the Vaada anymore. How can they make forget an entire episode dedicated just for this🤔

Point 2 - I have a slightly different opinion here. Virat does not get dialogues even if Sai not there. Example today's scene with Pakhi and sunny, there were places where I expected him to speak and interrupt Pakhis bullshit. But it looked like the makers did not want to cut off Pakhis dialogues. In many of the scenes with Sai also he ends up reacting (thankfully they atleast show this) very slow and by then Sai opens her mouth. Either they want to show Sai is too fast and does not take anything laying down or Virat listens to everything the other person has to say even if its insults/false accusations before reacting which does not work in the chavan nivas.

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Interesting take but today’s scene was meant to be Sunny and Pakhi confrontation so Virat will have to take back seat . If I am not wrong , I read translation of this scene and in OG Robo interrupted Sunny more than Virat and I don’t remember in OG if Robo took a stand for Emon like Virat did today .

My knowledge about the original is based on my minimal understanding of Tamil and Bengali so can't speak much about that. I could never understand Rono's reactions either so don't know if he was angry or did not agree with Pakhi. Here since we can understand Virats reactions the lack of dialogues is more obvious. Also not to forget Virats misplaced reactions by the editors.

Coming to Virats dialogues, take for example last week's scene between Virat and Pakhi near the pool. Pakhi had so many dialogues which were pure nonsense and no such thing ever happened which she claimed and her repetition of the Vaada again. But Virat barely had any dialogues and Sai showed up before he could say anything for all the crap she dished out. Finally Virat opened his mouth after Sai left that too was diluted by her screaming that she is made a villain in everything though she is the innocent victim here.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

My knowledge about the original is based on my minimal understanding of Tamil and Bengali so can't speak much about that. I could never understand Rono's reactions either so don't know if he was angry or did not agree with Pakhi. Here since we can understand Virats reactions the lack of dialogues is more obvious. Also not to forget Virats misplaced reactions by the editors.

Coming to Virats dialogues, take for example last week's scene between Virat and Pakhi near the pool. Pakhi had so many dialogues which were pure nonsense and no such thing ever happened which she claimed and her repetition of the Vaada again. But Virat barely had any dialogues and Sai showed up before he could say anything for all the crap she dished out. Finally Virat opened his mouth after Sai left that too was diluted by her screaming that she is made a villain in everything though she is the innocent victim here.

I think in OG , there was no scene where Virat asks Pakhi to leave him alone and not worry about him when he went to sleep on the sofa . In that scene Virat was shown as strong and Pakhi as stalker .

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I am going to sound like a broken record here😂. I feel the same way, the makers somehow want to show Pakhi as the Victim.

And who is writing these dialogues- rishta dono ne banaya toh ek insaam kaise tod saktha hai 😂- what rishta was she talking about since they never talked about even liking each other in that yoga camp. She decided to get married first so even if there was a rishta she broke it off and not Virat. How is she claiming she did not break off the rishta and it was broken off forcefully 😂. Even for this dialogue no dialogues for Virat what so ever , why?? Does this dialogue also mean she is characterless and married his brother and still keeping the rishta with him and sheds tears for this? Does this not bother the character Virat who loves Jeeva dearly 🤔.

The characters, their reactions and memory in this show are so messed up.

Actually pakhi character is grey.. but this is ITV they don't know how to portray a grey character..they end up turning that character into negative/positive...most of the time negative...and here again writer , actress ,actor are not ready to accept her as grey chr, they are hell bent on showing her parallel lead positive chr.. If they accept it they could have easily showed her good initially, then due circumstances she turned into grey and right now she is obsessive coz how sai and virat relation is turning out while her life is just ruined...and she is intentionally guilt tripping virat -sai (sai also did promise to her on reception day)... since they want pakhi as another positive parallel lead , so they cannot show what she is doing is actually intentional(some monologue in room).and hence again n again they are bringing stupid vada...and butchering virat chr

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I am going to sound like a broken record here😂. I feel the same way, the makers somehow want to show Pakhi as the Victim.

And who is writing these dialogues- rishta dono ne banaya toh ek insaam kaise tod saktha hai 😂- what rishta was she talking about since they never talked about even liking each other in that yoga camp. She decided to get married first so even if there was a rishta she broke it off and not Virat. How is she claiming she did not break off the rishta and it was broken off forcefully 😂. Even for this dialogue no dialogues for Virat what so ever , why?? Does this dialogue also mean she is characterless and married his brother and still keeping the rishta with him and sheds tears for this? Does this not bother the character Virat who loves Jeeva dearly 🤔.

The characters, their reactions and memory in this show are so messed up.

exactly which rishta which never started, and wasnt Pakhi the one who agreed to marry samrat, she dint waited, and jumped in to saying yes to marry samrat, it was she got to know they both are brothers she was like virat virat virat,

and on top of it, it was virat who promised, he couldnt tell his family, Pakhi herself could have spoken to samrat, usko kisne mana kiya,

you know I really wish sunny probes more

How much I hate the fact that without Sunny's intervention, SaiRat will take centuries to make their own babies😭😣

#KachchuaCouple

#NoActionWithoutSunny

Originally posted by: sadiltl

The more I look at virat pakhi vaada scene, it feels like virat gave that vaada to make pakhi leave the room

Jokes aside, he never meant it. It was an uncalculated, unthoughtful and insincere move from his side. Instead of denying it, he should accept it as a mistake to feel better and May be apologize pakhi and samrat! pakhi is way too past apology but virat will feel better if he did! It will reduce his guilt too.

having said that virat is still a good man! He tried to do things with a good intention but they turned bad.

Just thinking on behalf Of virat because pakhi’s mindset you covered.

I agree it was impulsive. But May be at the time he gave it - he was still in pain and still loved or thought he loved her. And May be he meant to keep it because he holds great pride in his being ‘pakki zaban’ 🙄😑 Otherwise he would never have had that big dilemma outside the hospital after Sai attempts suicide where his farz and jazbaat are talking to each other and then that nightmare where he saves Sai from sinking and dying.But that shows he is very short sighted- even Pakhi’s father asks - how can he expect to live his whole life alone? But now, yes, at this point - he should probably tell Pakhi it’s time to move on and admit - yes he broke his vaada.

But to be fair at the time he gave the promise, He probably never calculated being in a situation where he has to nibhao/ keep two promises that contradict each other.

And then he gets married to Sai thinking it’s easy to keep away from her because anyway they don’t want to get married to each other and don’t even like each other. I think he doesn’t realise that by then despite his best intentions he was already strongly attracted to Sai

Because when he brings Sai back from her hideout ( the secret location - house with a white wall -where they hide her- while searching for Jagtap) and he tells her that she can pack because next day she and her father are going to Nagpur- he actually asks her - “you won’t forget me ?” And in reply to her asking the same question he says -“ how can anyone forget such a chatterbox? “ Just that lovely moment and conversation at the end of which she almost hugs him - makes me think that if things had gone as planned and Kamal sir had not died- and They had moved to Nagpur for Sai’s studies, he would have kept meeting or staying in touch with Sai under the bahaana of meeting his guru Kamal sir 🥰

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I don’t understand Bengali maybe someone can confirm what happened in original. Maybe even in OG , Emon was shown as strong character at the expense of Rono . It’s very common in ITV .

I see Virat is getting butchered because of his silence during confrontation and when Pakhi is spewing venom . From what I have read here Rono was firm with RK . That’s the reason I feel Virat is shown as weak to make Sai stronger .

Sunny gave back to Pakhi’s when she tried gaining sympathy so I don’t think they are trying to show Virat as the one responsible for Pakhi’s pain . Maybe it’s me but for makers and channel Pakhi is irrelevant and is just like any other villain on the show .

Sai was not even present today. Sunny's conversation was about Pakhi and her flawed understanding.

Pakhi is not irrelevant at all. For me, as far as I understood, even from a synopsis of KD, she will constantly target Sairat and create rifts between them.

Just that, here, she doesn't even have the finesse of a villain. Yet she gets opportunities to show her POV.

Anyway, this is it from me on today. Somehow, her presence and crying irritated me to no end.

Actually with no Sai around, somehow why Virat is getting butchered became glaringly obvious to me today.

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Sai was not even present today. Sunny's conversation was about Pakhi and her flawed understanding.

Pakhi is not irrelevant at all. For me, as far as I understood, even from a synopsis of KD, she will constantly target Sairat and create rifts between them.

Just that, here, she doesn't even have the finesse of a villain. Yet she gets opportunities to show her POV.

Anyway, this is it from me on today. Somehow, her presence and crying irritated me to no end.

Actually with no Sai around, somehow why Virat is getting butchered became glaringly obvious to me today.

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