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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

Please do not read this post if you wouldn't be happy with a character being criticised. I guess by now some of you might have understood thag when I write a post or write an analysis, I always share it with just an intention to share my understanding, share how it looks to me and not to bash characters, not to put down any characters.

In one analysis I praise a character or give credit to a character, in another post, depending on the status of the story, the same character also gets criticised. So if you could all please look at the analysis in a constructive way, keeping in mind while reading that I am sharing whatever is happening objectively, so as to understand who is doing what and could/should have done what.

Below is my understanding of the current status of the show and the plot. I haven't covered all the aspects because this is just an overall picture, not covering every single details or aspect of the plot.


Sairat, where do they stand? Why are they stuck, unable to move ahead? Why is there not much of progress in their relationship? I had once written a post as who built the wall and who is breaking it. It was a post where I had spoken about Sairat's marriage, their feelings for one another, how and why Sai buiilt a wall, who was responsible for it who was actually breaking the wall, who was actually responsible for sustaining the relationship and also growth in their relationship. I had given credit to Virat almost everytime for Sairat stood even when I knew why Sai was holding herself.

I had always spoken about his contribution, his efforts in building their relationship and maintaining it. That was a long while back, I think before Pulkit entered their life.

Well, the same things holds good even today. Sairat is where they are today mainly because of Virat. As much as he was the reason for breaking the walls and building a beautiful relationship, he is the reason for it to have got raised again, not just due to some of his behavior like Hand holding/depriving food/ousting but also due to the below. I haven't actually covered all the reasons but have listed out a few from the recent episodes alone. Below is my understanding of the girl who married a guy on certain conditions, my understanding of her position, her hopes, her expectations, her apprehension and her insecurities.


I just went through a few updates/not to be watched clippings from the latest episode (which doesn't even include the cringy hand holding scene that I think was there too).

The show is giving me a headache. All these doesn't make sense. A dumb girl with too good intentions for anyone's liking especially in this aspect, who feels her husband loves his friend, pleads her husband to call his friend.

The husband will manipulate his ex whom he calls his friend, ignoring her expectations and advances as a lover, as if she is the only one in the entire family who can play the role of Devi and help his sister and niece unite (how can we forget that he accepted to do this for just one puppy eyes given by his wife also for his sister's happiness, that sister, whom he has given a justice by making his criminal family accepting his sister's daughter).

As much as he had regretted to had spoken something unintentionally, he was so dumb to be even bringing up an information from their past about her acting skills from Pakhi's college time to convince her to participate in the skit.

He will also think that his wife and his ex don't like each other not giving once a thought that his ex has been taunting and torturing/abusing his wife (emotionally, verbally and physically (chilly grinding)) forever and that his wife only retorts. He had himself told to Pakhi that Sai doesn't start fights, she only replies and that too because you always taunt her and don't treat her well, don't behave with her like how you behave with the rest of the family. The same guy has the audacity to think that his wife doesn't like his friend?

He will then look at his wife hoping that she doesn't reply to his ex who had ruthlessly told off his wife saying that she was doing this only since her friend had asked her to, to that wife who was only trying to offer a truce (so that his sister gets her share of happiness)

The wife looks at the husband at this statement to tell something but the husband is so drowned in the paschyataap plan cum his niece sister union that he will ignore the look on his wife but will pray/hope that she doesn't retort to his ex and also gets proud looking at his wife's magnanimity.

This same guy thinks that his wife didn't get affected when he said that he missed her when she wasn't around.

Well, he can't even see the restlessness in his wife's eyes everytime when his friend openly shows her love for him.

The guy who wants his wife to understand his unsaid feelings can't understand his wife's insecurity or possessiveness which only crops up when his friend openly shows her love for him.

He can't understand that the wife wants to believe that he only shares friendship with his friend and is willing to move on with her, his wife, but always gets pulled down/made to think otherwise due to the advances or bold open love from his ex cum friend and sometimes his own stupidity of friendship jaap.

He cannot understand that his wife is just expecting that he denies his friend's advances openly or reprimands his friend from acting in any unethical way, reprimands her while his friend crosses boundaries.

He cannot understand that his wife wants to believe that they probably do have something between them as a married couple,

- hoping that whatever conditions he had once laid isn't true now,

- hoping that he is moving with her as a real wife,

- hoping that whatever proximity they are sharing are probably due to some unsaid progress in their relationship

which she wants to hear loud and clear from his own mouth, which will only be hopes/beliefs during the moments they share but will get denied or pushed away when there is no assurance/affirmation verbally since one's beliefs can be proved as assumptions or can be seen as a misunderstanding/misjudged conclusions.

(I know that above is a real complex sentence 🤭 just like their relationship)

One can actually look at the above said statement as what runs in Sai's head when she allows Virat to move with her romantically or when she questions Pakhi or puts Pakhi in her place as a wife even though Sai always calls this marriage as a deal, even though Sai always keeps telling that she is a person who anyway have to walk out of his life, even though she believes that Virat does have feelings for Pakhi but doesn't tell it out.

(I am sure this might answer questions as how is she taking the liberty as a wife even though she thinks it to be a marriage of deal.)


Most importantly, he cannot understand that his wife is expecting that he would one day put an end to all the advances from his friend, show his feiend her real place, will ask his friend to stay in her limits, will warn her to not insult his wife, will ask her to be respectful to his wife, will tell that they are not just friends but are devar bhabhi and will be devar bhabhi always.


As much as Sai was also responsible for him to be made to convince his friend to participate in the skit, screw this man who doesn't once think that he is the only one who knows his so called friend's actual intentions.

He is the only one aware that his friend not just loves him but also wants him to reciprocate her feelings and is expecting him to take their story forward.

He should know that after he has come to know of Pakhi's motives, of her feelings, he shouldn't be even talking to that lady as a friend, should treat her as only his brother's wife with respect but at the same time should be acting indifferent towards her, should be giving her cold shoulders so that he can always clearly draw some boundaries between them thereby discouraging her from expecting anything from him, stopping her from having unethical inmoral expectations from him.

The guy should have warned her for what the lady spoke in today's episode but instead ignored her advances, used her for his own benefit (even if that means his sister's happiness).


He is coming across as a selfish person who once rejected a girl's love/by not accepting her love for his own brother's happiness and now again by emotionally manipulating the same lady whom he knows wants him to be her lover even though they both are married to two different people for his sister's happiness, not once thinking about his wife whom he claims as the love of his life. It looks as if he is only worried about his brother or his sister or his family or himself at the end of the day even though he has been a kind, generous and a magnanimous person.


P.s I have not been around since last afternoon. Won't be around much today too and don't wish to use the forum actively or watch this horrendous show for now. Apologies to not be able to reply to those who have tagged me and to not be able to reply to anyone who comments on this post too immediately.

Tagged a few, hope you don't mind, I will totally understand if any of you don't wish to be tagged in serious posts in future.



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I was upset about sai more yesterday but your post here made sense that virat should have been even more assertive that he didn’t want to go. He is the only one who knows her intentions completely.

I agree with all your points and I can only say wait for few more episodes. I think CVs have made his character too soft 😢 now they are not able to balance his indifference towards pakhi and his whatever ‘compromising’ attitude. There are inconsistencies how his character is behaving these days. I used to like the sternness in his voice when he thinks something is going wrong... even with sai. He used be in control of the situation. Now to fit him in ‘sai ke pati sai jaise hota jaa raha hai’ template they are experimenting with his character too much. Hence the inconsistencies!

So I would wait till the showdown! Because the last virat pakhi confrontation was really good. Let’s wait...



Edited by sadiltl - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

And we want the wife to respond to his romantic advances 👏👏🤪


I somehow not blame Sai for sending Virat to Pakhi, because she is not privy to what has happened between the two. She still thinks they are close to each other.. The way she said main chali jaungi toh baatein karte rehna and Virat did not say much..I guess she thinks its only him who can convince PP.. Also she trusts Virat to not go beyond limits or go for EMA, she knows Virat has his love in his heart and they are not going the EMA route. I am sure she is wrong there but then again they both are being over cooperative and pushing limits when it comes to Devi-Harini..

I felt bad for Sai when Pakhi claimed him to be more close, since Sai doesnt know the dynamics I am sure she would believe so. That heart is being hammered slowly and continuously.. Ye sab Toofan k pehle ki shaanti hai..


An interesting observation, did my Nonconfrontational Chavhan prayed to Bappa that Sai doesnt reply and not that his DOSTH should not actually insult his biwi/his love? Waah re bappa.. Nonconfrontational Chavhan.. kaaye hai re tu??smiley39 He cannot even inform his wife about what has happened between the two when she way and prays to bappa ki Sai kuch na bole.. when he knows Sai has always always been abused by Patralekha his "DOSTH" and lets go a lot many times for him..or just let it go in humour.. physically , well Lakshmi she has physically manhandled him as well , the way she holds her and once pushed her is so frustrating to watch...

Romeo will do nothing when Sai is called khudgarz, when all she has been doing since she came back for him is doing things for his family.. She did not even study or go to college since he has been unwell and my sweet sweet Romeo who loves his wife stands there and listens to the insults thrown at her and prays to bappa , let her not react to these taunts.. and also pray to bappa, let her stay back please 👏

Sai "blackmailed" him into going Okay? Why did he not deny? He knows more detail of what has happened between them that Sai or anyone in the house know? So why did he simply not deny?

@bold this was too much. I just couldn't tolerate it. How selfish is he that he is not paying attention to how his wife is getting treated but is only worried that their plan doesn't get spoilt?


@italics exactly. Not once did he even try to say that he won't speak to Pakhi. She pleaded with her eyes and he agreed? Doesn't make sense at all. The way he is talking to Pakhi, sharing about his sister and her daughter 😡, how can he even behave with her like that after knowing what she wants, after she has been repeatedly saying the same thing? And he wants his wife to stay back? Ashwini should slap him one day for his behavior. I don't want Ashwini to just scold Pakhi, she should first try to put some sense in her son's head.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I have stopped watching the show since long because they do not actually dwell on the visceral aspects of a love triangle and have absolutely ridiculous plots.

But more importantly, Virat is not an alluring enough character for two women to be fighting over. I just find it cringy.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

After watching today’s episode I pray ,I wish Sai return back to hostel and continue her studies seriously. She will miss Virat but she will survive. I hope she won’t return at all.

Seriously, even I don't know what to say after all this. Whom are we rooting? You have been such a strong supporter of Sairat and had even recently commented that you only want it to be Sairat and you are saying this way today. Virat's behavior has made you say this way.


No one could blackmail a husband to do that which is uncomfortable for him. Sai gave Mohit the status of a director and she just want to respect his choice.

Exactly, he didn't dent even once. He didn't think once. Even if Sai wanted, shouldn't he be thinking if it would be right to talk to her? Not only did he try talking to her, he has comvinced her this way 😡. Pathetic.


Virat should have returned when Didi refused to act with Sai or when she made her ntention clear once more regarding their equation. But no..he did not do any such thing...

😡I hated that.


On the whole this Harini birthday fiasco became the most irritating part of the show ...unbearable..

I know 😒

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Originally posted by: Bluegrass

I have stopped watching the show since long because they do not actually dwell on the visceral aspects of a love triangle and have absolutely ridiculous plots.

But more importantly, Virat is not an alluring enough character for two women to be fighting over. I just find it cringy.

Except Sai is not fighting for him. She wants to leave, it’s Virat who is holding her back.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: laksh

@bold this was too much. I just couldn't tolerate it. How selfish is he that he is not paying attention to how his wife is getting treated but is only worried that their plan doesn't get spoilt?


@italics exactly. Not once did he even try to say that he won't speak to Pakhi. She pleaded with her eyes and he agreed? Doesn't make sense at all. The way he is talking to Pakhi, sharing about his sister and her daughter 😡, how can he even behave with her like that after knowing what she wants, after she has been repeatedly saying the same thing? And he wants his wife to stay back? Ashwini should slap him one day for his behavior. I don't want Ashwini to just scold Pakhi, she should first try to put some sense in her son's head.

Yes It is high time Aswini should show Virat the mirror. How he let his married life effected with his senseless or nonsensical attitude towards the third wheel in their life. Only she could do so.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Bluegrass

I have stopped watching the show since long because they do not actually dwell on the visceral aspects of a love triangle and have absolutely ridiculous plots.

But more importantly, Virat is not an alluring enough character for two women to be fighting over. I just find it cringy.

@bold very true. I don't think I can watch after these. I have already stopped it when they whitewashed Bhavani, read some updates and clippings today. Don't think I can do that too.


@italics oh, a highly disappointing character

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Posted: 4 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: laksh

Please do not read this post if you wouldn't be happy with a character being criticised. I guess by now some of you might have understood thag when I write a post or write an analysis, I always share it with just an intention to share my understanding, share how it looks to me and not to bash characters, not to put down any characters.

In one analysis I praise a character or give credit to a character, in another post, depending on the status of the story, the same character also gets criticised. So if you could all please look at the analysis in a constructive way, keeping in mind while reading that I am sharing whatever is happening objectively, so as to understand who is doing what and could/should have done what.

Below is my understanding of the current status of the show and the plot. I haven't covered all the aspects because this is just an overall picture, not covering every single details or aspect of the plot.


Sairat, where do they stand? Why are they stuck, unable to move ahead? Why is there not much of progress in their relationship? I had once written a post as who built the wall and who is breaking it. It was a post where I had spoken about Sairat's marriage, their feelings for one another, how and why Sai buiilt a wall, who was responsible for it who was actually breaking the wall, who was actually responsible for sustaining the relationship and also growth in their relationship. I had given credit to Virat almost everytime for Sairat stood even when I knew why Sai was holding herself.

I had always spoken about his contribution, his efforts in building their relationship and maintaining it. That was a long while back, I think before Pulkit entered their life.

Well, the same things holds good even today. Sairat is where they are today mainly because of Virat. As much as he was the reason for breaking the walls and building a beautiful relationship, he is the reason for it to have got raised again, not just due to some of his behavior like Hand holding/depriving food/ousting but also due to the below. I haven't actually covered all the reasons but have listed out a few from the recent episodes alone. Below is my understanding of the girl who married a guy on certain conditions, my understanding of her position, her hopes, her expectations, her apprehension and her insecurities.


I just went through a few updates/not to be watched clippings from the latest episode (which doesn't even include the cringy hand holding scene that I think was there too).

The show is giving me a headache. All these doesn't make sense. A dumb girl with too good intentions for anyone's liking especially in this aspect, who feels her husband loves his friend, pleads her husband to call his friend.

The husband will manipulate his ex whom he calls his friend, ignoring her expectations and advances as a lover, as if she is the only one in the entire family who can play the role of Devi and help his sister and niece unite (how can we forget that he accepted to do this for just one puppy eyes given by his wife also for his sister's happiness, that sister, whom he has given a justice by making his criminal family accepting his sister's daughter).

As much as he had regretted to had spoken something unintentionally, he was so dumb to be even bringing up an information from their past about her acting skills from Pakhi's college time to convince her to participate in the skit.

He will also think that his wife and his ex don't like each other not giving once a thought that his ex has been taunting and torturing/abusing his wife (emotionally, verbally and physically (chilly grinding)) forever and that his wife only retorts. He had himself told to Pakhi that Sai doesn't start fights, she only replies and that too because you always taunt her and don't treat her well, don't behave with her like how you behave with the rest of the family. The same guy has the audacity to think that his wife doesn't like his friend?

He will then look at his wife hoping that she doesn't reply to his ex who had ruthlessly told off his wife saying that she was doing this only since her friend had asked her to, to that wife who was only trying to offer a truce (so that his sister gets her share of happiness)

The wife looks at the husband at this statement to tell something but the husband is so drowned in the paschyataap plan cum his niece sister union that he will ignore the look on his wife but will pray/hope that she doesn't retort to his ex and also gets proud looking at his wife's magnanimity.

This same guy thinks that his wife didn't get affected when he said that he missed her when she wasn't around.

Well, he can't even see the restlessness in his wife's eyes everytime when his friend openly shows her love for him.

The guy who wants his wife to understand his unsaid feelings can't understand his wife's insecurity or possessiveness which only crops up when his friend openly shows her love for him.

He can't understand that the wife wants to believe that he only shares friendship with his friend and is willing to move on with her, his wife, but always gets pulled down/made to think otherwise due to the advances or bold open love from his ex cum friend and sometimes his own stupidity of friendship jaap.

He cannot understand that his wife is just expecting that he denies his friend's advances openly or reprimands his friend from acting in any unethical way, reprimands her while his friend crosses boundaries.

He cannot understand that his wife wants to believe that they probably do have something between them as a married couple,

- hoping that whatever conditions he had once laid isn't true now,

- hoping that he is moving with her as a real wife,

- hoping that whatever proximity they are sharing are probably due to some unsaid progress in their relationship

which she wants to hear loud and clear from his own mouth, which will only be hopes/beliefs during the moments they share but will get denied or pushed away when there is no assurance/affirmation verbally since one's beliefs can be proved as assumptions or can be seen as a misunderstanding/misjudged conclusions.

(I know that above is a real complex sentence 🤭 just like their relationship)

One can actually look at the above said statement as what runs in Sai's head when she allows Virat to move with her romantically or when she questions Pakhi or puts Pakhi in her place as a wife even though Sai always calls this marriage as a deal, even though Sai always keeps telling that she is a person who anyway have to walk out of his life, even though she believes that Virat does have feelings for Pakhi but doesn't tell it out.

(I am sure this might answer questions as how is she taking the liberty as a wife even though she thinks it to be a marriage of deal.)


Most importantly, he cannot understand that his wife is expecting that he would one day put an end to all the advances from his friend, show his feiend her real place, will ask his friend to stay in her limits, will warn her to not insult his wife, will ask her to be respectful to his wife, will tell that they are not just friends but are devar bhabhi and will be devar bhabhi always.


As much as Sai was also responsible for him to be made to convince his friend to participate in the skit, screw this man who doesn't once think that he is the only one who knows his so called friend's actual intentions.

He is the only one aware that his friend not just loves him but also wants him to reciprocate her feelings and is expecting him to take their story forward.

He should know that after he has come to know of Pakhi's motives, of her feelings, he shouldn't be even talking to that lady as a friend, should treat her as only his brother's wife with respect but at the same time should be acting indifferent towards her, should be giving her cold shoulders so that he can always clearly draw some boundaries between them thereby discouraging her from expecting anything from him, stopping her from having unethical inmoral expectations from him.

The guy should have warned her for what the lady spoke in today's episode but instead ignored her advances, used her for his own benefit (even if that means his sister's happiness).


He is coming across as a selfish person who once rejected a girl's love/by not accepting her love for his own brother's happiness and now again by emotionally manipulating the same lady whom he knows wants him to be her lover even though they both are married to two different people for his sister's happiness, not once thinking about his wife whom he claims as the love of his life. It looks as if he is only worried about his brother or his sister or his family or himself at the end of the day even though he has been a kind, generous and a magnanimous person.


P.s I have not been around since last afternoon. Won't be around much today too and don't wish to use the forum actively or watch this horrendous show for now. Apologies to not be able to reply to those who have tagged me and to not be able to reply to anyone who comments on this post too immediately.

Tagged a few, hope you don't mind, I will totally understand if any of you don't wish to be tagged in serious posts in future.

babe I feel exactly what u said

And so since morning my mood was gloomy and irritated watching this shit,

For me this is pure manipulation on the part of Virat and this can I say from my own experience, today I felt for the 1st time the helplessness of Pakhi

How much irritate I might be with this woman this doesn’t change the fact that yes today I could see the helplessness in her, when u make someone ur world, and that man hurt u and yet end up doing what he ask for,


this happens when u have given that person the power to rule upon u that u stop somewhere to think rationally, yes I have no shame in admitting that it is personal experience coz I completely know u become so helpless at that moment, it suffocates u but yet u can’t help, it takes lot of efforts and will power to come out of it, yes it is possible,


somehow I feel that Virat wasn’t in front of Pakhi 24 hrs it could be possible foe her too, or Samrat could her spoke to her, given her a chance, could have understood her and Virat perceptive,


u know ur heart cries, u feel suffocated, but u can’t take out that frustration on someone nor U can tell anyone about it, I am not justifying Pakhi here coz she forgot the line of right and wrong with sai, who shouldn’t be her target,

Jab aap kisi ko apni life samjhte ho and that person just goes away, U have no clue what u feel, the only thing u wish that time was either to have thrown that feelings out of urself or have not felt that hard, the prob is when u r in that stage when u let the person affect u so much u just wish that person comes back in ur life anyhow, that time sense of understanding, rationality lacks that u are left hurting,


Probably I am not making sense now but this happens and trust me it’s a worst feeling

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Absolutely! That's why I said today in DT. It's not enough to tell PP to not have expectations from him in private while remaining a mute spectator to repeated insults of his wife, whom he claims to love, by the same person. As I mentioned in one of my earlier post, it could have been passed off as a case of misunderstanding on his part, if he weren't aware of PP's intentions; but, how can one justify his behavior now? He is turning out to be a hypocrite who would turn a blind eye to all the misdeeds just to maintain a facade of normality; it doesn't matter to him if the cost of that normality is the constant humiliation of his wife by his haughty ex or curmudgeon elders.

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Originally posted by: maahi11

babe I feel exactly what u said

And so since morning my mood was gloomy and irritated watching this shit,

For me this is pure manipulation on the part of Virat and this can I say from my own experience, today I felt for the 1st time the helplessness of Pakhi

How much irritate I might be with this woman this doesn’t change the fact that yes today I could see the helplessness in her, when u make someone ur world, and that man hurt u and yet end up doing what he ask for,


this happens when u have given that person the power to rule upon u that u stop somewhere to think rationally, yes I have no shame in admitting that it is personal experience coz I completely know u become so helpless at that moment, it suffocates u but yet u can’t help, it takes lot of efforts and will power to come out of it, yes it is possible,


somehow I feel that Virat wasn’t in front of Pakhi 24 hrs it could be possible foe her too, or Samrat could her spoke to her, given her a chance, could have understood her and Virat perceptive,


u know ur heart cries, u feel suffocated, but u can’t take out that frustration on someone nor U can tell anyone about it, I am not justifying Pakhi here coz she forgot the line of right and wrong with sai, who shouldn’t be her target,

Jab aap kisi ko apni life samjhte ho and that person just goes away, U have no clue what u feel, the only thing u wish that time was either to have thrown that feelings out of urself or have not felt that hard, the prob is when u r in that stage when u let the person affect u so much u just wish that person comes back in ur life anyhow, that time sense of understanding, rationality lacks that u are left hurting,


Probably I am not making sense now but this happens and trust me it’s a worst feeling


ME TOO! Thank God I found someone. I’ve started to feel so bad for her. I know she’s an abuser but keeping that aside, she’s being played by the very man she sacrificed her self respect, ego, integrity and everything for. I felt bad for her and I’m not going to shy away from admitting.

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