Virat is the Victim... - Page 18

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Did Virat begged KJ or he pushed him infront ?if I remember correctly virat did signed d VRS within d 3 day after getting fed-up with Sai's nonsence .

D things which I mentioned is wrong as made up then i m so sorry , maybe someone else did that.

Yes sai should leave him , what is stopping her or who can stop her .

Still it's a mystery for me how can a woman enjoys attention of his abuser or even flirt with him. If she is so dukhiyari in her life

Càn u answer why d hell sai Joshi accepted virat's condition & what is stopping her to still continue with this sham of d marriage.

Can u plz state me sai's so called flaws jinke liye itna rant kiya jaata hai.

Now you have asked the right question..

Sai Joshi is a bloodless b*tch ; She can do anything for people she loves and anything against the people she dislikes.

Sai looks immature and impulsive in first glance but she plays a long winded game; she studies her opponents and act accordongly.

Sai actually plays with Pakhi and she hates when she loses it because of Virat.

She do subtle things which are unnoticeable on surface but riles the person in front of her..

She slowly cooks people; she knows where it would hurt most and she hammers at that point...

For Pakhi : she turns cozy with Virat..calling them couple

For Virat: she has long noticed it is his male ego and she plays with it according to the circumstance.

For Bk: Bk has kept Pakhi..as his representative so she humiliates Pakhi by putting her in situation..where she acts irrationally in turn humiliating Bk

Sai does not harm people who are neutral...but she slow cook her enemies..

Her lines of playing is blurring with Virat...and she blurs them according to her needs.

Deepika, seeing one recent response on this thread reminded me of the quote I read yesterday. I am unable go find but here is the gist

Post : I prefer oranges over apple

SM: Oh you hate oranges which are rich in vitamin C etc etc

Similarly, you spoke about how Sai was not innocent and had her share of mistakes but some readers read it as abuse was justified because you pointed Sai had a role to play in the mess. Should I judge such people’s morals for calling a real person as loose morals for a reel character? Should I judge such people's principles who abuse people on SM?

Originally posted by: Sairat

Now you have asked the right question..

Sai Joshi is a bloodless b*tch ; She can do anything for people she loves and anything against the people she dislikes.

Sai looks immature and impulsive in first glance but she plays a long winded game; she studies her opponents and act accordongly.

Sai actually plays with Pakhi and she hates when she loses it because of Virat.

She do subtle things which are unnoticeable on surface but riles the person in front of her..

She slowly cooks people; she knows where it would hurt most and she hammers at that point...

For Pakhi : she turns cozy with Virat..calling them couple

For Virat: she has long noticed it is his male ego and she plays with it according to the circumstance.

For Bk: Bk has kept Pakhi..as his representative so she humiliates Pakhi by putting her in situation..where she acts irrationally in turn humiliating Bk

Sai does not harm people who are neutral...but she slow cook her enemies..

Her lines of playing is blurring with Virat...and she blurs them according to her needs.

Na na sai 2 devi hain , monster or animal sirf virat.

I generally asked d question & dint did to mock it , I asked d same question to one of d member 2.

Nevermind.

Thnk u.

Originally posted by: Fruitcustard_9

Na na sai 2 devi hain , monster or animal sirf virat.

I generally asked d question & dint did to mock it , I asked d same question to one of d member 2.

Nevermind.

Thnk u.

If you say so Fruity..

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Disclaimer: These are only my thoughts from how I understood the characters. I could be wrong. My experiences with life and people around me could have influenced my understanding too. :)

I wanted to write about Virat's behavior for quite sometime now but was not sure how to convey his situation. He is definitely in a 'tricky' situation for a good man like him, who thinks about all the possible outcomes and about everyone. This situation could have been so simple for Sai kind of a person, who is also good but impulsive and straightforward. So to first understand the behavior of Virat in dealing this situation with Pakhi and Sai, we have to ponder on his personality and the circumstances he is in.

I know sometimes CVs dont give us good dialogues and the character arc so we get confused at character's behavior. We have a good actor like Neil who conveys some of the complications/deliberations that Virat's character faces. If we can observe them closely, may be we get some answers. But as an actor he can do only so much. Anyways, let me put down my thoughts on his behavior. Lets see where Virat stands now

@bold I know, since they have made Virat more of a silent guy, this is helping me even analyse him 😆

1. Virat is an emotional, guarded and a private person. He gives lot of importance to his family and relationships to the extent of personal suffering.

2. He is an independent man at the same time when it comes to his personal life. He can make important decisions on his marriage and when to throw his wife out and how to beg her back if needed. He acts according to his emotions. True he gets influenced by his family, but throwing his wife out and begging her back is his own doing. :)

3. He is the only person at the moment, who knows what Pakhi's intentions are, their past and present relationship status, his deal marriage conditions with Sai and the extent of his feelings towards Sai. And recently Sai's fondness and attraction towards him. Yes, he knows Sai is into this marriage but still angry about their last fight.

4. Only thing he is not able to gauge correctly is the extent of obsession Sai has for his deal word and her insecurities towards him. He thinks it is Sai's brashness that speaks rudely about him and Pakhi, but not her insecurities.

Now why he behaves the way he does...?

He being a thoughtful person and a responsible one, he 'overthinks' about the consequences.

I agree, that is the main problem.

We should not forget that he loves Samrat a lot. Their bond is something which is not explored now a days but in the beginning it was shown that Virat has huge regard for him. If we keep that in mind, his actions towards Pakhi make more sense. HE IS NOT DEALING WITH EX-LOVER. HE IS DEALING WITH HIS BROTHER'S WIFE. For him, he has to live with these people for his entire life under one roof! Day in and day out he has to face her. It is not a small problem to brush off to start with.

He can easily expose Pakhi in front of the family. Sai is capable of doing it, Virat is not! For Sai, a wrong is wrong no matter who does it. She came from a nuclear family. And in her impulsiveness and her insecurity over losing her husband, she will confront her. (which I think will happen soon no wonder!). But Virat will not. He knows that he will not be exposing ex-lover pakhi. He will be exposing the intentions of his brother's wife, his bhabhi, elder DIL of Chawan family, and a woman...He thinks about all these things. Again, he is the same person who was very brash to her when she came to his room and confessed her feelings for him. He told her she is the third person, he warned her not to compare herself with his wife, he asked her to mind her own business and he cleared with her that whatever feelings he had for her were fleeting!! This is a big NO from his side. Like I said, he is an independent man when it comes to his personal life. He told her on face what she means to him. But he will not say all this in front of the family...

It is a tricky situation and I am not even sure if him exposing will ever help him. Firstly, he wouldn't expose her because as I have mentioned in my post too, she is not just his brother's wife, she is another human being, a woman whose life he wouldn't want to spoil.

As an audience if you ask me, if he exposes her, there are high possibilities that she can turn the table, she could blame it all on him. And sadly it is easier for a woman to accuse men and will look more believable. He might get blamed 😒. Anyway, if not for now, Pakhi will be the one who will be forcing him or Sai to expose her one day or the other. She might push them to such an extent that they will be left with no option but to expose her true colours.

Now, coming to his muteness in front of Sai. I can only say from my observation of Virat's expressions and from above points. Virat doesnt want to bring Pakhi in his equation with Sai. He wants to rebuild everything with Sai afresh. If I remember correctly, not even once in their conversations or fights, he confessed in front of Sai that Pakhi is the person who he was committed to. Did he? (Except for one ocassion where he slipped 'pyaar' instead of 'dost' which added to Sai's obsession with deal.) It was Sai who guessed it, it was her who nurtured and nourished their ex-bond in her mind. For Virat, he brushes it off because he wants Sai to think that there is no trace of any feelings for Pakhi. He wants their relationship to be free from Pakhi.

He had indirectly admitted that it was Pakhi by staying silent by not refusing that Pakhi was the commitment he spoke about before he got married to her.

@bold love how you have phrased it

Though I understand him or his position as why he wants to stay silent, I would only say that whatever it is, he anyway has to let her know since she is his wife, he also considers her to be his wife and he loves her, so coming clean about his past is definitely needed.

His silence is only going to delay their union.

He expects her to understand this through his actions. If he has to come clean with Pakhi in words then he has to tell Sai that he once intended to marry Pakhi and she was the commitment that he was talking about during marriage. For all the reason we already discussed before he doesnt want to accept that in front of Sai.

I think he is making a mistake here. His nature is not helping him. In general, people reveal about their past even before they confess their feelings. Here, it is not just a past, it has also been something that he has shared with her, Sai right now has a half baked information that he has someone else in his heart for whom he never intended to marry in his life and she has also rightly guessed as who it is. As I have mentioned above, he has also not cleared anything (I do know the reason) during their last confrontation.

Leaving aside these, it will only be right to share about his past even if he wants to move on with Sai and she deserves to know it too. I am not sure how is Virat not thinking in that aspect. His insecurity is not helping him but he has to fight it if he wants to set things right with Sai.

He brushed aside the Pakhi phase as a fleeting moment and he wants Sai also to not ponder on it.

You have now made me think after I have jusst posted above but even though it was an infatuation, he had made a life long commitment to Pakhi, hence it had become a big thing and is no longer a small thing which he can brush aside.

May be he is aware that Sai is prone to speaking her mind, and this information can give her more details which she would reveal in front of others casually.

If he thinks this way, then he lacks trust. If he confides in her as a husband/lover, she wouldn't reveal it to others and he needs to have that kind of an understanding atleast.

The previous statement is just a guess. The summary is he doesn't want Sai to give any importance to whatever relationship he had in the past. So he plays it casual in front of her and pretends it never existed.

I am very sorry but I do not agree with this. Everyone has to come clean with their past and his past is a complicated one which just cannot be avoided.

Then why doesnt he confess his love?. I already expressed multiple times, that he wants to see where Sai stands with him. But if you observe his recent behavior, he knows Sai likes him, she is attracted to him. May be he was planning to confess with the kiss yesterday. But Pakhi's interruption brought him to reality that Sai is still planning to leave him. He has to first make sure she stays willingly and then he will take no time in confessing. He already made up his mind. To his muteness when Pakhi taunts Sai, I would say is his sympathy towards her. On the side, he is making umpteen amends with Sai in his own way by showering his love. Sai also sees that but doesnt want to believe it due to his initial deal words. She just needs a clear confession from his mouth.

And lastly his behavior towards Pakhi now is not insensitive...he knows her intentions towards him, so he is maintaining the distance. Pakhi's behavior has become redundant with Sai, so he laughed it off when Sai imitated her. He still is the same sensitive person who takes care of her needs as a member of the family. Yesterday near the dining table he behaved as a normal BIL should. He showed to Pakhi that he doesn't share any extra comfort with her but it is his duty to drop his elder SIL if she needs help. He still would not demean her in any way, especially in front of the family.

I am not sure if anyone said this, he wouldn't ofcourse demean her. But his confusion and lack of understanding towards Pakhi's anger even after their conversation in his room is off putting.

In summary, Virat and Sai are completely different people who handle situations differently. They are good at heart but respond to situations differently. Virat is grown up in joint family trained to hide uncomfortable things and play safe.

@bold very true which is what is turning out to be problematic sometimes. Neither will Sai's ways help her always nor will his ways help him always. I think they will learn now.

Sai is grown up in a nuclear family with simple set of rules. She does not think in a way that Virat weighs everything before acting. He is the person who always knew Sai is good as a person but rebellious. Even in the initial phases of their marriage, he disapproved her actions not her intent. Her actions do not confirm with someone living in a joint family. And as a husband, only he could tell her that, no one else could. Sai might mellow down in future, not because she listens to her husband or not because she is weak or not because she is a woman, because she herself will learn how to stay in a joint family. (just my guess going by KD storyline)

PS: If Virat is so thoughtful why did he throw Sai out? He was dealing with Sai's 'betrayal' for the first time, that too from the woman he loves. So his emotions ran haywire.

Thanks for tagging me Lakhmi. I would not have written this if not for your tag. I was reluctant :)

Pleasure dear 😊

I know that topics about Pakhi or Virat interests you, so had tagged you.

Nicely worded and explained. Have replied in green.

[Q👏UOTE=janecastle]

Well you seem to be quite confident about the goodness of a man who don't even think twice before manhandling his wife and is quite sure about his actions in hypothetical situations. So yeah, you can hope for anything.

Wonderful reply omg I waited long for this 🤣🤣👏

Originally posted by: janecastle

Well you seem to be quite confident about the goodness of a man who don't even think twice before manhandling his wife and is quite sure about his actions in hypothetical situations. So yeah, you can hope for anything.

Wonderful reply omg I waited long for this 🤣🤣👏

Originally posted by: janecastle

Oh god I can't even 🤣🤣 So it is Sai's fault that Virat manhandled her, refused her food and then threw her out. Well that says a lot about the great IPS Virat Chavan. 🤣🤣

Sometimes alag duniya ka logic quote kiya jaata hai 🤣

But on a serious note, I'm so glad someone is speaking sense here and that too so articulately. Kudos! 👏

Originally posted by: CottonWorld

Given his role...the character Virat is the weakest in this show. That's not how a male lead should be. He is so inconsistent that this might be the first show that I've watched where I don't feel anything for the lead couple.

I feel all the other characters in this show are mostly justified given their respective roles. But his character arch is plain disappointing.

Exactly even I have lost interest in the lead couple because of this despite the actors having tremendous chemistry.

Originally posted by: laksh

@bold well, this is also not entirely true. He is being disrespectful to her in a way. I understand his intentions, his goodness and how loyal he is. I also understand that Pakhi pushed him to speak words that he wouldn't have otherwise spoken like koi aur aurat and all when they both were having a conversation in his room.

I feel that he should have also told her that he had decided to move on and he won't be able to keep his promise. He promised her with some good intentions and with sincerity, so I would have expected him to clear this in the right way with Pakhi. Pakhi is not right to expect anything from him but she had also trusted his promise of not moving on his life in a way while marrying Samrat. He was ready to move on long before but she is still stuck, that is not his fault, he did mislead her in the past for sometime though.

Virat, the guy that he is could have been sensitive when he actually broke the promise. Whether she accepts it or not, obviously she wouldn't but he also should have handled it in a better way.

I also don't understand and getting annoyed when he gets confused whenever Pakhi grows angry, like he acted clueless when she left the hospital, later at home too he is saying I don't know why you are upset and even when she left his room recently, he is acting confused as why should she cry.

She had told him clearly that she has feelings for him, hasn't moved on and was also expecting him to reciprocate her feelings, then how can he act blind whenever she gets hurt or angry looking at his closeness with Sai (emotionally and physically). He obviously is right when he tells her that she shouldn't be bothered if he and Sai are close or if he supports Sai or if he chooses Sai since they share a relationship as that of a husband and wife, like how he had told her on the day of holi. At that time, he had no clue about where she stood, but after their talk in his room, how can he act confused?

And I don't know how to react when he was joking with Sai yesterday. Yes, it is good that he didn't shout at Sai to have made fun of Pakhi, but can he join with her and make fun of her too? May be he can because he also has never understood why Pakhi takes everything as an insult.

Even if that is understood, it would only be good if Virat had thought about what had happened. He is so drowned in the thoughts that Sai is planning to leave the house that he is ignoring Pakhi's unreasonable expectations.

Such expectations should sound alarming to him. Even though he has told Pakhi that expecting him to be made a nominee is wrong, I don't know what else he can do about it but looks like he better addresses it before Pakhi develops more such unreasonable and unethical expectations. I think when he sees Pakhi acting normal the next day, he lets it go but he also got confused when Pakhi had at the end refused to take a lift from him saying she remembered that her parents weren't going to be at home.

These should make him think that she had changed her decision after she came to know that Sai was going to hospital with him.

Sai had also spoken Pakhi's thoughts loud by asking Pakhi "if Pakhi didn't expect Sai to go with Virat and why would she even think that way when she is here to only take care of him". This clearly indicates that Pakhi had initially thought that Virat was going alone and hence had agreed to go and dropped the plan as soon as she realised Sai was accompanying him.

I don't know if he notices these things about Pakhi atleast now and how he can address these issues. As you have said, I am not sure of the solution to his problem. The earlier he finds a solution the better it would be for him. And for that, he first has to start acting alert, has to understand what is happening, has to realise how serious the issue is and only then can he even think of addressing it.

This deserves a separate post 😆 Plz do it..I really fail to understand the how's and why's of virat and patralekha 😆 it's always "what the hell"🤣