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Posted: 4 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: pamk06



Was the "kahani" taunt for us... like we are saying story is not moving forward and the makers are sayin "kahani baad rahi hain, aapko nahi dikh raha to hum kya kare"😆😛


Heck yeah😆....token line daali ekdum to respond to all the people pointing out the stagnation in the story😆.....as if this will really help the case.....Imlie's reasons for why things have "moved forward" were so bullshit that no one will be convinced by them😆.....Writers ko khud ka bullshit nahin dikh raha toh hum bhi kya karein😛

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Posted: 4 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: AreYaar


LOL no, Malini just came to visit the Ts to "apologize" for her mom talking rudely to them or something in some scene....ab mujhe yaad nahin😆.....she's still trying to play goody goody with the Ts even though she doesn't give a damn about them really😆


Divorce is still on....I guess they will be meeting the lawyer soon.


Reason to not tell the family is whatever contrivance floats your boat😆.....Didi claiming she needs Adi to tell the truth and then she will be able to move on in her life😆....Adi stating that Imlie has stopped him from telling the truth to the family until Didi proves KC is real and she's happy with him😆.....toh isi contrivance mein ghoomte raho.


Anger at Aditya? Hahaha bhool jaao.....she's just playing her usual bechaari mode for now ....baaki flip maarti rahegi time to time. Imlie pe anger nahin, guilt trips hi apply kar rahi hai....her usual MO.


Abhi diviorce hi lena hain... to guilt trip kyun? mahaan hi ban jaaye phir se... we will take that too... as long as she says to Imlie that stay happy with Aditya and I forgive you all..in becahargi voice.... that should do😛.... and if that is what its going to take for Imlie to come back to her senses....


what does she mean life mein nahi rahege? She is also learnt from Aditya to give "sukha dos" and make faltu ke claims.... as if Aditya is going to let her go anywhere...😆🤣😆.. now, he is going to make sure that Malini gets her happily ever after... just for this reason 😆Malini ka ek jhoot, bahot bari pad gaya uspe😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: AreYaar


@bold1: And what a tragedy that not a single character in this show does the simple act of telling Imlie that she's not a sinner....that perception is allowed to perpetuate based on surface presumptions about the events that unfolded.....Rupi ne bhi bas token bhaashan diye about Imlie ka pehla haq but never really did anything to assuage Imlie's guilt regarding this. Adi apne hi frustrations mein busy hai.


Where exactly is Imlie's sin in all this, can someone articulate? Has she ever coveted someone else's husband? All this while she has only been devoted to her own husband....if it was such a sin, why call it SM ka aashirwaad all this time? It can't be both simultaneously, can it? This is a forced guilt trip cuz no one wants to deal with Malini maturely....she has been coddled from day one by every character in this story and she still continues to be coddled by her so called younger sister......lol this again makes me laugh that Imlie must touch the feet of an "elder" Malini didi but still otherwise treat Malini like she's some toddler whose emotions have to be micro-managed.


Instead of talking about the actual issues in AM's relationship, the delusion is allowed to perpetuate that it's only falling apart cuz Adi's first wife turned out to be Imlie.....the presumptions are allowed to fester and then they end up becoming "reality" as Imlie calls herself a sinner undeserving of happiness and all people can tell in her response is that KC is real? 😕😆



@bold:2: Yes, that is Imlie's real issue....she is not ready to face the consequences of the full truth and how that will transform all her relationships in that house. The didi jaap and Didi ki matchmaking are tangible things that she can busy herself in rather than reflecting on her own emotions, her sense of self....she's always been shown deflecting from doing deep reflections....assigning absolutes to something makes it easier for her to process things - like the absolute of Adi being her husband, like the absolute of her faith in her SM.....the grey areas in between absolutes seem to defeat her many times emotionally....she retreats into a shell or finds ways to deflect.


The sad part is that the writing is so poor on this front for her and the writers have shown a clear preference for propping up Malini at Imlie's cost, so the hope continues to be diminished that these convos will ever actually happen.....will Adi ever realize how he needs to address Imlie's self-worth issues? Or will a switch just be magically flipped one day once the truth is out to the family and that's that in terms of "acceptance"? lol the rate at which they are going, I really can't say.


No one around imlie has noticed her guilt or understood it completely yet. Even if they do, they might say something like legally you are Aditya's first wife. So if you claim your right on him, you are doing nothing wrong. But imlie has her own belief system right? She relinquished her rights on Aditya completely on the day he married Malini. So the person she fell in love with is not Aditya - her husband but Aditya - Malini didi's husband. She coveted for another woman's husband and that is a sin. The greatest sin there is.

Yes, she still considered him her husband even after AM marriage and SM's aashirwad. But that was as long as she was alone in this relationship. The moment Aditya fell in love with her, it was a paap. He was Malini's husband. So he had to stay with Malini. She rejected him and sent him to Delhi even if it broke her heart. But she could not stay away. So she returned with condition - Malini's happiness is more important. You will fulfill all your duties as Malini's husband. Never reject her for me. We know that AM's marriage never stood a chance. But for imlie, if she is not in the picture they would have continued marriage even if they were miserable. Which is in a way true. Aditya would never have known true love and would have settled with whatever token relation he had for Malini. And Malini with AC genes would have never let go of Aditya. For imlie relationship is more important than feelings associated with relationship. She has mentality that if there is a rishta even if you are miserable you need to nibhao it. That explains initial days of her marriage to Aditya and her lack of response to Aditya's misery in his marriage.

So it was never about issues in AM marriage or coddling Malini. For Imlie its all about her belief system. In her own belief Aditya is her husband. And the only right she has on him is to save him if there is a NDE. Anything more is coveting.


Aditya has a lot of work to do. Abhi toh aur bhi jhatke bhaaki hai lol. First he needs to understand her belief system and get her out of her sinner mode. He needs to understand her self worth issues. Given how clueless Aditya generally is, this is going to be a long ride. Especially because nothing is straight forward with Imlie.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: pamk06


Abhi diviorce hi lena hain... to guilt trip kyun? mahaan hi ban jaaye phir se... we will take that too... as long as she says to Imlie that stay happy with Aditya and I forgive you all..in becahargi voice.... that should do😛.... and if that is what its going to take for Imlie to come back to her senses....


what does she mean life mein nahi rahege? She is also learnt from Aditya to give "sukha dos" and make faltu ke claims.... as if Aditya is going to let her go anywhere...😆🤣😆.. now, he is going to make sure that Malini gets her happily ever after... just for this reason 😆Malini ka ek jhoot, bahot bari pad gaya uspe😆


@bold: I think woh driveway scene mein Didi ne bol diya something to the effect of yeh tumhara ghar hai, apni jagah le lo or whatever but I guess to your point Imlie needs to hear a direct "forgiveness" from Didi😆.....usse kam mein nahin maanegi.....lol


Didi ne aaj tak kisi ko maaf nahin kiya, not even her oh so beloved Adityaaaa😆, bas aage se guilt trip and taane hi maare hain😆......toh yeh toh long shot hope hi hai.....lol Imlie will either have to be satisfied with Didi ka KC ya phir baithi rahe intezaar mein of Didi ki khokhli maafi😆


LOL arey aap toh fresh perspective lekar aayi hain Imlie ke declarations pe.....matlab now Imlie's declarations are just as empty as Adi's?😆.....Sahi hai.....lage rahein phir dono bailbuddhis😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: jojo_mojo


No one around imlie has noticed her guilt or understood it completely yet. Even if they do, they might say something like legally you are Aditya's first wife. So if you claim your right on him, you are doing nothing wrong. But imlie has her own belief system right? She relinquished her rights on Aditya completely on the day he married Malini. So the person she fell in love with is not Aditya - her husband but Aditya - Malini didi's husband. She coveted for another woman's husband and that is a sin. The greatest sin there is.



Really? I didn't really view it that way and if that was Imlie's stance, they didn't articulate it clearly in the story that way either IMO.


Imlie accepted Malini's claim on Adi because Adi himself kept declaring Malini's claim on him....but she never fully relinquished her own claim on Adi cuz frankly when has she ever fully claimed her right on Adi in order to relinquish it?😆


And if what you are saying is indeed Imlie's thinking, I don't think she would have accepted Adi's affection for her in the PD realization trip the way she did.....you are making it sound like she considers their relationship sinful. I don't think that is the case.....she feels guilt because Malini has lost the one she "loves"....but she does not consider her own relationship with Adi wrong.....she is simply trying to repay the debt of sisterhood she feels she owes Malini for all that Malini has done for her.


How exactly did Imlie covet Adi at any point?😆.....even now after so many ups and downs, realizations....all she is doing is reciprocating Adi's love for her (woh bhi bare minimum😆)....lol if you want to talk about her belief system, she has never considered her own husband's love for her wrong either.....calling any of this a "sin" is not in alignment with her claim that this rishta is a blessing from SM.....agar rishta hai toh uske saath jude emotions can't seperately become a "sin".


*Re: Coddling Malini.....how is it not about coddling Malini? I can give a bazillion examples of Imlie feeling the need to hype up Didi whenever Didi was pouting over the smallest of things......easiest example that comes to mind is that just cuz Adi's boss praised Imlie ki moti roti, Imlie saw Didi ka fallen face and put down her own Moti roti to hype Didi ka chocolate cake😆.....if this is not coddling, then what is? No one treats Malini like an adult in this story....they all act like she's a toddler whose emotions are to be managed.....Imlie included....the whole world is a "sinner" in front of Didi....conveniently twisted definitions of "sin"😆

Edited by AreYaar - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#86

I think BS shout run away from didi aur didi choti behan . One is turning in to a cry baby other is turning in to be a saint . He should shift to mumbai office .. Run BS run....


Matlab what kind of character imlie is turning in to?? She is 19 yrs and sacrifice ka murti bankar doormat no kitchen mat level pein aagayaa...

Didi ka on and off water work and split personality disorder..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Heck yeah😆....token line daali ekdum to respond to all the people pointing out the stagnation in the story😆.....as if this will really help the case.....Imlie's reasons for why things have "moved forward" were so bullshit that no one will be convinced by them😆.....Writers ko khud ka bullshit nahin dikh raha toh hum bhi kya karein😛


Exactly the explanation was so funny ki “we were alone before and now we are together”.....That we knew from episode 1 that it was going to happen but what about “Didi prem”... the story is stuck there since episode 100 and there is not moment there inspite of two NDE’s. .... writers really need to see what they are doing with Imlie character, instead of giving her growth with all these experiences, they are taking her back (opposite of growth) or keeping her stagnant.


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Posted: 4 years ago
#88

Originally posted by: pamk06



Was the "kahani" taunt for us... like we are saying story is not moving forward and the makers are sayin "kahani baad rahi hain, aapko nahi dikh raha to hum kya kare"😆😛

yes that taunt was for us viewers as Adi talks our language... haar char din ke baad yehi kehti ho ...😈


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Posted: 4 years ago
#89

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Really? I didn't really view it that way and if that was Imlie's stance, they didn't articulate it clearly in the story that way either IMO.


Imlie accepted Malini's claim on Adi because Adi himself kept declaring Malini's claim on him....but she never fully relinquished her own claim on Adi cuz frankly when has she ever fully claimed her right on Adi in order to relinquish it?😆


And if what you are saying is indeed Imlie's thinking, I don't think she would have accepted Adi's affection for her in the PD realization trip the way she did.....you are making it sound like she considers their relationship sinful. I don't think that is the case.....she feels guilt because Malini has lost the one she "loves"....but she does not consider her own relationship with Adi wrong.....she is simply trying to repay the debt of sisterhood she feels she owes Malini for all that Malini has done for her.


How exactly did Imlie covet Adi at any point?😆.....even now after so many ups and downs, realizations....all she is doing is reciprocating Adi's love for her (woh bhi bare minimum😆)....lol if you want to talk about her belief system, she has never considered her own husband's love for her wrong either.....calling any of this a "sin" is not in alignment with her claim that this rishta is a blessing from SM.....agar rishta hai toh uske saath jude emotions can't seperately become a "sin".


*Re: Coddling Malini.....how is it not about coddling Malini? I can give a bazillion examples of Imlie feeling the need to hype up Didi whenever Didi was pouting over the smallest of things......easiest example that comes to mind is that just cuz Adi's boss praised Imlie ki moti roti, Imlie saw Didi ka fallen face and put down her own Moti roti to hype Didi ka chocolate cake😆.....if this is not coddling, then what is? No one treats Malini like an adult in this story....they all act like she's a toddler whose emotions are to be managed.....Imlie included....the whole world is a "sinner" in front of Didi....conveniently twisted definitions of "sin"😆


Poor choice of words again :) Imlie did give up her right to be Adi's wife when she let Aditya get married to Malini. She accepted his affection in PD because in her own words, she was living her life's worth of happiness in those three days. She thought he was doing some ehsaan on her. The plan was to send Aditya packing to Malini. These three days were the respite from their lives. From Aditya's responsibilities. She did this because of her own affection for him.

Covet is again a horrible word to convey my intention maybe. What i wanted to convey was she wanted his saath. She wanted presence in her life. But she feels she had no right to these. So to convey this feeling i used the word covet.

Even in the aditya rescue scene, she said, Aap pe haq na ho, par aapke jaan pe toh humara haq hai or something like that. In her own words her only right is to save his life.

In yesterday's awkward scene outside the house, Imlie's words to Malini were: yeh ghar aapka, yeh gharwale aapke. Malini was like kis haq se i occupied someone else's place in house. And imlie immediately fell on her feet saying please dont say that. I interpreted this as guilt that she is snatching away everything that is rightfully Malini's.

And before that scene, Imlie's monologue to SM as she was walking towards T house: "I always walked on the path you showed me. Thats why I never waver. Then why is it that i am unable to lift my feet today? Why do i think that i am going to break this house apart?". I interpreted this as Imlie feeling she is going against SM's way in pursuing her relationship with Adi. That was a sin alert scene for me.

Yes she never considered Aditya's love for her wrong. But she did consider him expressing his love to her wrong.(Forest scene) And her claiming her rights on him wrong.(sindoor scene) I guess for her nibhaoing rishta was mandatory but loving Malini was optional lol.

After the last NDE, I think she is at a place she is not giving up on Adi even when she feels its wrong.

Again, this is my interpretation of the scenes. I could be wrong. When ever makers decide to give a monologue to imlie, we will understand what her problem actually is lol.


Re. Coddling, Everyone in the show tries to coddle her and inflate her ego where ever possible. Imlie also generally does it. But the reason why Imlie wanted Aditya to stay with Malini was not because she was trying to coddle her. Its because of her belief that ek baar rishta jud jaye use nibhana padega. Irrespective of what the people in relationship feel. So the argument that Aditya and Malini's relationship might have naturally fallen apart might also not matter to her.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#90

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Oh is it? LOL well I actually didn't watch the full epi😆.....just the Adi-Imlie scene.....Behen Milaap ki bakwaas jhelne ka patience nahin bachaa mujh mein and anyways the scenes are daily rinse/repeat for all the equations these days......but it sounded in the precap like Didi was trying to play mahaan about how Imlie should take her place in the house.....lol.....so any surface viewing will make it seem to someone like Didi is being so considerate towards the person supposedly replacing her in that house😆


Sabse bakwaas musical chairs in the story right now is everyone trying to do passing the parcel ki tum sach bataa do, nahin tum sach bataa do.....lol


Didi ofcourse as always not having the guts to reveal any truth on her own and needs someone else to dictate it for her or take the choice out of her hands so that she can play bechaari damsel.


Imlie on her mahaanta trip/escapist trip ki I can't handle the truth ke ramifications so better to focus on Didi ka dard😆


Adi busy in his usual frustration ki sach bataane nahin diya toh main baaki bhi koi kaam dhanda nahin kar sakta Imlie ko support karne ke liye.....let me also obsess over Didi ka loverboy instead😕


Mithi ka scene I guess doesn't sound that surprising given woh bhi toh Malini ka ghar basaane ka gyaan de rahi thi Adi ko in Lauki scene😆.....so she's also all ok with her gudiya playing naukraani until Didi ka ghar bas jaaye I guess.....lol


Pata nahin man, I only saw her being absolutely jealous ki she’s having to tell all this to Imlie. Bol rahi thi logical stuff lekin as soon as Imlie said I do not believe you can ever love anyone else, ganga jamuna came out of of her eyes. Maybe it’s just me but I cannot see beyond her “me me me me”

Didi toh khud sach bolne se rahi. Kisi aur ko bhi kahaan bolne deti hai. Imlie ko bhi didi bana ke rakh diya in this matter.

First that Pari guy said nonsense, then AC slapped her around and then Mithi said take care of Malini toh kahaan Imlie will come out of this hellhole on her own. This is all going to end with Malini turning whoever that guy is into Kunal Chauhan because she will learn Imlie is her sister or something. Karegi because she needs to save face but the way they will show it is like Malini is giving away Aditya or something and people will buy it also. The number of people who saw behen prem in her words in this episode, I’m beyond amazed.


Aditya kahaan kuch support karega. Candle jalane mein laga hua hai. Candle bhuja degi Imlie toh lag jaayega in finding Mr. India because aur koi option hai nahin 🤷🏻‍♀️

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