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Posted: 4 years ago
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totally agree...agree banoji clarified that harko bai has gone to maika...


true..pure khanderao ...do feel sorry for him. if i am to go with this version of cvs...

mommys boy

dad loves my wife more than me..

bil tries to keep killing me off for kingdom

my wife is a know it all and irritating....

i marry 9/10 more times, but none of them gave me any kids.!

apparently my son died early...or was killed for being cruel.

all my wives and daughter apparently commited sati except for ahilya who my dad stopped and god bless him for that.

She built amazing temples, was diplomatic. and stopped peshwa bajirao son from attacking kingdom....etc. have a lot of respect for her and how she treated her subjects and described the British as bears....she was respected by them as well for all she did..granted.


it is just the cvs are portraying her as supergirl that is really getting on my nerves...even renu is telling her to listen...and not piss off her mil that much! she is being portrayed as that smart kid who has been told she is smart too many times and can do no wrong~


"meri renu meri renu..." she has a closer relationship with renu than she tries to have with khanderao and she is 9 10 so makes sense...RENU is her bff...and has been invited for permanent sleepovers..until she realizes she is married!~ renu is far more mature than her...

she is being portrayed as a miss know it all...i just wish the directors would tone it down...big time...


Respect Ahilyabai for all she did and what i have read but this serial is too dramatic...losing interest now.

just my humble pov

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: u4tlu

At bold striken out please avoid these words thank you.

Well they are trying to glorify someone when they show these supposed social evils. May be social evils happened then. In the life of the main character herself. Her husband married nine more women after her concurrently. They lady was all set to commit sati after her hubby died. She could not prevent her own daughter from committing sati. These are social evils too. And she couldn’t prevent them nor bring law against them. Could she? The so called social evils as seen on tv are highly made up and distorted. And TV serials make a living out of them. In the same period lots of evil things were happening round the world in so called monotheistic reformed religions. For scientific discoveries scientists were persecuted by predominant religion. Polygamy is still legal in some countries round the world in some other religions. Women did not have right to vote in the last century. Middle Ages people were burnt at stake in Europe. Those were social evils too. But nobody in those countries make serials superimposing those evils in another time period to portray main character as messiah. They are not so stupid. But Indian audience is stupid. That is why they try it here.

Yup that's the point there were social evils in those times. Maybe in TV shows the cvs amplify the evils, yet they were existant in that era. Sati pratha, then making the widow bald all these things existed in that era.

In European countries also there were social evils, but their renaissance happened in the medieval era only, so they were a bit lucky. But there are shows that shows the social evils of that era, like The Tudors showed how Henry VIII treated his six wives, executed two of them, divorced two. But when a lady, Anne Askew, wanted divorce from her husband she was burnt alive by Henry VIII. All these episodes were shown with full brutality in the TV show The Tudors.

Regarding the nine wives of khanderao, I feel that the sources and wiki article about that is wrong. Otherwise why there's no mention about any other wives. And also khanderao didn't have any children from any of them apart from Ahilyabai. I feel the nine wives concept is an exaggerated touch up done by majority of sources

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sree0796

Yup that's the point there were social evils in those times. Maybe in TV shows the cvs amplify the evils, yet they were existant in that era. Sati pratha, then making the widow bald all these things existed in that era.

In European countries also there were social evils, but their renaissance happened in the medieval era only, so they were a bit lucky. But there are shows that shows the social evils of that era, like The Tudors showed how Henry VIII treated his six wives, executed two of them, divorced two. But when a lady, Anne Askew, wanted divorce from her husband she was burnt alive by Henry VIII. All these episodes were shown with full brutality in the TV show The Tudors.

Regarding the nine wives of khanderao, I feel that the sources and wiki article about that is wrong. Otherwise why there's no mention about any other wives. And also khanderao didn't have any children from any of them apart from Ahilyabai. I feel the nine wives concept is an exaggerated touch up done by majority of sources

BOLD: or maybe some political alliances sorta thing ? not sure if that is validated though
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Myrah_2020

initially the show started off good but constantly glorifying sai as the core character who solves everything just got irritating ..

That’s true. Please note that the serial is titled “Mere Sai “ meaning it is the cvs own version of Sai and not the real one . 😂
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sree0796

Yup that's the point there were social evils in those times. Maybe in TV shows the cvs amplify the evils, yet they were existant in that era. Sati pratha, then making the widow bald all these things existed in that era.

In European countries also there were social evils, but their renaissance happened in the medieval era only, so they were a bit lucky. But there are shows that shows the social evils of that era, like The Tudors showed how Henry VIII treated his six wives, executed two of them, divorced two. But when a lady, Anne Askew, wanted divorce from her husband she was burnt alive by Henry VIII. All these episodes were shown with full brutality in the TV show The Tudors.

Regarding the nine wives of khanderao, I feel that the sources and wiki article about that is wrong. Otherwise why there's no mention about any other wives. And also khanderao didn't have any children from any of them apart from Ahilyabai. I feel the nine wives concept is an exaggerated touch up done by majority of sources

I knew it that they were going to make Khanderao stuck with only Ahilya. So they struck out nine wives of Khanderao. They are making up their own history. How come Wikipedia shows that many if there is only one. Highly unlikely.

There were social evils in those days and they need to be shown. Shaving off widows hair is evil. But the way they show it public headshaving ASAP that is highly distorted and in bad taste. My question is where is the disclaimer that this channel does not support this kind of atrocity on women. blah blah blah...


.Then comes Sati “even going to commit” is a social evil which means it was a common thing happening elsewhere and did not happen here.
Can anyone say that going by the adamant talkative argumentative irritating know all kid as shown on tv will end her life and die such a painful death? Not sure how they will show it when it happens.

Regarding Europe evil things happened and they happened not so long ago. Even well into 20th century they happened. Have you heard of Irish laundries . It even came out as a movie. That’s just an example. There are many more.

the point is the way they are shown it highly distorted out of context and cooked up. Pointing to one section of society and making them look bad.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: u4tlu

I knew it that they were going to make Khanderao stuck with only Ahilya. So they struck out nine wives of Khanderao. They are making up their own history. How come Wikipedia shows that many if there is only one. Highly unlikely.

There were social evils in those days and they need to be shown. Shaving off widows hair is evil. But the way they show it public headshaving ASAP that is highly distorted and in bad taste. My question is where is the disclaimer that this channel does not support this kind of atrocity on women. blah blah blah...


.Then comes Sati “even going to commit” is a social evil which means it was a common thing happening elsewhere and did not happen here.
Can anyone say that going by the adamant talkative argumentative irritating know all kid as shown on tv will end her life and die such a painful death? Not sure how they will show it when it happens.

Regarding Europe evil things happened and they happened not so long ago. Even well into 20th century they happened. Have you heard of Irish laundries . It even came out as a movie. That’s just an example. There are many more.

the point is the way they are shown it highly distorted out of context and cooked up. Pointing to one section of society and making them look bad.

Bold: Honestly I don't trust Wikipedia completely, but yes maybe khanderao had nine wives. Although many sites claim that he had 3 or four wives and few concubines. But unless we get info from an authentic source we can't be sure.

But my point is if he had other wives then why the names of the other wives are mentioned nowhere. Like Malharrao's four wives names are mentioned clearly, although there is very little info about them. Even shivaji maharaj's eight wives name is clearly given.

And also if khanderao had so many wives, then he should have atleast one child from his other wives also naa. But it's stated that he only had two children, and that too from Ahilyabai only. That's why I have doubt on this nine wives theory.

That said, there's full chance that those names were omitted from history. That's why we have no proper info about khanderao's conjugal life.

Regarding the disclaimer part, yes I agree with what you are saying. It's better to give a disclaimer before showing such extreme scenes, like shaving off a widow's hair and all. More better not to show such scenes, like renu could be directly shown in widow's attire instead of showing such a sensitive scene surrounding shaving in Television. Like it was shown in Baji Rao where Radhabai was directly shown in widow's attire, after Balaji's death.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Oh, don't be surprised wherein malharao will be glorified for prohibiting ahilyabai from committing sati. If he is glorified for being the ONE who thinks girls should get an education when ahilyabai was already educated in real life & rest think that it is dumb. smiley29 If he can preach to renu's grandma, then the sudden plot twist of glorifying ahilyabai from being the only one to prevent her from committing suicide wouldn't come in as a shocker.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Myrah_2020

Oh, don't be surprised wherein malharao will be glorified for prohibiting ahilyabai from committing sati. If he is glorified for being the ONE who thinks girls should get an education when ahilyabai was already educated in real life & rest think that it is dumb. smiley29 If he can preach to renu's grandma, then the sudden plot twist of glorifying ahilyabai from being the only one to prevent her from committing suicide wouldn't come in as a shocker.

Yes sure Malhar truly prevented Ahilya from committing sati . It is not like he is ahead of times sometimes women refrain from committing sati for various reasons. He is truly fond of his DIL and trained her to be the queen after his son died. That is commendable.
Her journey from the little girl to the great queen is the story. That is believable. But the nosy irritating kid who meddles in others matters in the pretext of social reform at this point doesn’t earn that much adoration the way they show her as. I hope the CVs understand the damage they are doing to the characterization.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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true..pure khanderao ...do feel sorry for him. if i am to go with this version of


my wife is a know it all and irritating....

i marry 9/10 more times, but none of them gave me any kids.!

apparently my son died early...or was killed for being cruel.

all my wives and daughter apparently commited sati except for ahilya who my dad stopped and god bless him for that.

She built amazing temples, was diplomatic. and stopped peshwa bajirao son from attacking kingdom....etc. have a lot of respect for her and how she treated her subjects and described the British as bears....she was respected by them as well for all she did..granted.


it is just the cvs are portraying her as supergirl that is really getting on my nerves...even renu is telling her to listen...and not piss off her mil that much! she is being portrayed as that smart kid who has been told she is smart too many times and can do no wrong~


"meri renu meri renu..." she has a closer relationship with renu than she tries to have with khanderao and she is 9 10 so makes sense...RENU is her bff...and has been invited for permanent sleepovers..until she realizes she is married!~ renu is far more mature than her...

she is being portrayed as a miss know it all...i just wish the directors would tone it down...big time...


Respect Ahilyabai for all she did and what i have read but this serial is too dramatic...losing interest now.

just my humble pov

She is not a know all. Just an irritating kid. Acting too big for her age. Asking any question to anyone even Gautama. She is not really scared of Gautama. She is not that innocent that she poses any question to the queen in all innocence. The way she goes to disturb her when she tried to be alone before Khanderaos psriksha that was mannerless and a bit out of line. She has no regard for anyone’s feelings as she has her weird logic and gyan received from her father that you shouldn’t leave a person who is worrying about something alone. If her father taught her that he deserves a few slaps too. Ahilya has no respect for anyone’s feelings. She just goes on and on when a person wants to be left alone. Another “pearl of wisdom “ she dropped was that when a person is sad you feed them sweets and their sadness becomes less. You feel like beating her for that and her father too who told her this piece of wisdom,. Renu lost her husband . even though she has no affection for him she was robbed of coloured clothes and they shaved off her hair made her wear this drab attire cursed her and gave her food once a day. At this point Ahilya is trying to feed Renu sweets stealthily taken from her home. to lessen her sorrow. Ok Renu is a kid May be her emotions are not that deep but if is someone else an elder who lost their child or a grown up who lost a loved one and is grieving for them will their sadness go away by feeding her sweets? Is is not an offence to feed them sweets? What kind of stupidity is that? This gyan also she got from her father.Makes one wonder about her parents. Are they in their right mind?

Coming back to Renu she was one of her many friends back in the village. How did she become her BFF suddenly? And then the other girl whose father was a thief Ahilya said she was her BFF too. Now she is totally forgotten. Soon Ahilya will have her own army of BFFs . one after the other.

Edited by u4tlu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sree0796

Yup that's the point there were social evils in those times. Maybe in TV shows the cvs amplify the evils, yet they were existant in that era. Sati pratha, then making the widow bald all these things existed in that era.

In European countries also there were social evils, but their renaissance happened in the medieval era only, so they were a bit lucky. But there are shows that shows the social evils of that era, like The Tudors showed how Henry VIII treated his six wives, executed two of them, divorced two. But when a lady, Anne Askew, wanted divorce from her husband she was burnt alive by Henry VIII. All these episodes were shown with full brutality in the TV show The Tudors.

Regarding the nine wives of khanderao, I feel that the sources and wiki article about that is wrong. Otherwise why there's no mention about any other wives. And also khanderao didn't have any children from any of them apart from Ahilyabai. I feel the nine wives concept is an exaggerated touch up done by majority of sources

I hope at least this bit is true that Khanderao had just one wife. The great queen deserves at least that much respect. Besides the character shown on tv is so full of her own importance that she wouldn’t know how to be if there were more wives.
Edited by u4tlu - 4 years ago

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