ANALYSIS! Arnav's Acceptance of Contract Marriage *New* Pg 11 | Oct 5 - Page 5

Originally posted by: Savera84

As someone said in an earlier post, Nani and Anjali should have had a talk about the reasons. Were they in love with each other that they could not stay away from each other or was Khushi pregnant which made them to get married in a hurry?

Cheers.....

Logic gaya tel lene😆

In these kind of situations people assume that they are pregnant or couldn't wait to sleep with each other. 🤣

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I think it was ridiculous if Arnav really expected that Naani will let Lavanya stay in his room. 😆

I know they can't really force to make him do what they want, but its not like Anjali or Naani would have given up that easily, they will try to influence him in their own way. He still had to listen to them at the time that Lavanya could not stay in his room.

Also, anullment is a really difficult thing to do, one has to prove that the marriage cannot be consummated because of impotency. In an Indian society, being divorced and having a marriage annulled is same. They just simply ask if you have ever been married or not. She would never really want her marriage over - for a girl like her, it was for life time. Naani & Anjali never called Khushi characterless, they never called her any names.

@ bold I didn't mention anywhere that Anjali and Nani called Khushi names. I said they didn't stop Dadi and let her rip apart Khushi's character.

In fact, I know people find Anjali stupid for being naive. But she wasn't stupid - she was naive, and blind in love. When people are truly innocent and good at heart, it's inconceivable to them that the ones they love and trust are not what they seem to be. Even though she had suffered so much pain, she was hurt but she was never bitter towards her Arnav or Khushi. Angry - yes, hurt- yes, but never bitter. It takes a special kind of strength and wisdom to do that.

Just admit, you are one of the people directly involved with the original show 😂😂

Like man, this fits so right and I think this is the actual reason for Arnav's actions for forced marriage. Ipkknd was always said to have great story line and I believe part of it was these analysis which were given to the leads and team. Of course not everything could be shown or explained to the audience, that's why most of us didn't really think upon this analogy.

Thank you, please keep up the good work!

Put it in different topics, that would be better for me 😊

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND

Hello everyone,

It's S from Iss Podcast Ko Kya Naam Doon. I'm thinking of posting a series of IPK analysis over here - let me know if you'd like them all in a thread or as different topics.

Quick note, it's all from my perspective and you're free to differ/add further to my analyses! And clearly, I haven't had enough analyzing this show.

Here's an index of all the analyses! Feel free to jump in/contribute.

Best,

S

I N D E X

1. Why Did Arnav Force Khushi To Marry Him? (below)

2. Analyzing Arnav, Shyam & Khushi at the Terrace

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Why Did Arnav Force Khushi To Marry Him?

So, today's I'm attempting to analyze why Arnav forcibly married Khushi which came from the following ask on Tumblr:

Why does Arnav choose the option of marrying Khushi when usually, people try to resolve extra marital affairs by separating the two lovers. And here Arnav just chose to let the “lovers” live under the same roof? I don’t buy the argument of control since it is impossible for Arnav to keep an eye on them 24X7 if indeed he believed they were messing with each other!

So, according to me, Arnav thought he witnessed a breakup.

Khushi in his eyes was religious, morally and ethically driven, cared little for money and was a woman of heart. If she wanted and loved someone, she’d be blind for him. Blind enough to step over her own moral boundaries. Such as love a man who is committed to another. (Careful, I’m not blind to Arnav’s faults, here I’m strictly talking from his perspective).

And all of this is true. She does all of this for Arnav.

Except he thought her love was Shyam.

So Arnav thought Khushi, unable to accept Shyam’s marital status any longer, was demanding a divorce so she could marry him. Therefore a woman like her, no matter how much in love with Shyam, would never entertain him if she were married. Yes, it would be a tragedy and her heart would be broken and all - but she’s also the kind to believe in the power of sindoor and mangalsutra over everything.

And that’s exactly what happens. Which is why as an audience we don’t see Arnav and Khushi signing the papers of their marriage because that means little - we see the religious side of the marriage because that means everything for her.

Arnav’s focus went to what he could control instead of what he couldn’t. If Shyam had begged for an apology and spluttered of Khushi not wanting to marry him - Arnav wouldn’t have married Khushi, except be cold towards her and never pursue her ever again, he’d tell her farak nahi padta and mean it. And have Shyam at his mercy. But Shyam made it very clear that he wanted to pursue Khushi irrespective of his marital status and would probably divorce Anjali if needs be. And Arnav could do nothing to stop this/warn Anjali about this. A single Shyam means Khushi would be ready to marry him.

So who could he control in this situation? Khushi.

(He thought) She was the one having problem of Shyam being married.

Shyam literally hands it over to Arnav that the only obstacle in this is Shyam’s marital status.

So even before Shyam is divorced, if Khushi is married she’d not pursue nor entertain Shyam ever again - even if she didn’t love her husband. And who remembers how committed Khushi was to her fiancé? Arnav. And who knew that she was with a man who she did NOT love and only broke up with because he hurt her family? Arnav, again.

Arnav has seen Khushi be blindly dedicated to an unattractive fiancé and defend him, pretend to be in love and happily engaged to because she’s given her word.

And then one might think why didn’t Arnav tell anyone else? Like Khushi, Arnav cares immensely about Akash. This comes off very subtly and is literally hidden under the whole thunder of ‘sister’s marriage broken’ that Arnav can’t tell anyone else about it, except his sister - for the fear that this would ruin his Akash’s happiness. Of course Anjali is pregnant so Arnav is left with telling no one.

He literally tells this to Khushi that Mami requires the slightest excuse to break Akash’s wedding, because he has thought through what would happen if he told anyone. And he can see no one agreeing Akash to marry Payal, perhaps not Akash himself, if they know what Payal’s sister did. But he knows Akash and Payal love each other.

And Arnav did not even think about any of the other Guptas knowing about this because - this is where the Guptas made a massive mistake - he cannot imagine anyone hiding this from him/Anjali that Shyam is cheating on her with Khushi.

It’s funny that Garima’s intention to keep Payal’s wedding intact is what sealed Khushi’s fate. If they had told Arnav what happened and with that knowledge if he had witnessed the terrace scene - he would’ve seen what we saw and realized that Shyam was harassing Khushi. I’m not saying he would’ve believed them instantly or painted his hero a devil, but he would’ve hesitated to believe Shyam because the Guptas told them the truth when saying so could cost them everything. Hence I always hold the Guptas immensely accountable for their actions.

Arnav made sure:

• He acted after Akash and Payal were married in the truest sense thus no matter what Arnav did it would not affect their marriage.
• Have a religious wedding so Khushi would not entertain Shyam at all.
• Have a leverage over Khushi by having her in the same household like Payal, therefore she knows that disagreeing with him would have an immediate impact.
• Have a ‘right’ over Khushi as husband, therefore having the right to tell Shyam that Khushi is his hence Shyam can no longer have Khushi.

I believe he translates Shyam’s anger to his success. Even Shyam knows that once Khushi has someone’s sindoor she’ll be committed to that man. So Arnav rejoices in the bitter win that Shyam is frustrated of not having a chance.

You see, Arnav does not ‘misunderstand’ Khushi. He misunderstood the situation. He still gets her - knows she’ll do anything for her sister, will be heartbroken if her family abandons her, prays to Devi Maiyya for everything, craves familial acceptance, blindly believes in marriage, will do anything to make anyone else happy. But is also in love with a married man.

Arnav knows who Khushi is and attaches it to what he saw on the terrace, therefore he knows once Khushi is married she won’t go behind another man because she believes too much in the institution of marriage. As long as Khushi is unmarried, she might be tempted to have a conversation/romantic attachment to Shyam just as she’s had one all along (according to Arnav).

He remembers Khushi’s frazzled state when Anjali introduces Shyam as her husband. He connects it to his theory that Khushi was betrayed by Shyam choosing to stay married to Anjali.

Therefore, post marriage whenever he sees Khushi stepping away from Shyam, he does not see what we see - fear and disgust - he sees a heartbroken woman disappointed by a man who didn’t divorce his wife to be with her. A spineless man trying to butter her up.

He misunderstands her anger for Shyam. BUT THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY OF HIS DECISIONS RIGHT.

He punishes her personally, in his four walls, because she broke his heart. Because he was in love with her. He is extremely cruel and does things, many times, that are completely uncalled for. Some time ago an anon had asked me that if Lavanya was in place of Khushi would it have made a difference. I said no. The difference lies in who is the cheating man. In place of Shyam had it been some other random married guy who was not at all attached to Arnav in any way/shape/form we can see Arnav forming a similar opinion but not acting on it. He would’ve spoken to Khushi, tried to know the truth, worked out a solution. And probably beaten/threaten the random guy.

NONE OF THIS EXCUSES ARNAV’S ACTIONS.

Arnav should not have put Khushi through an abusive marriage. He should’ve confronted Khushi a few days after getting married. Yes it might have led to ugly fights but we needed conversations, months of angst and a true realization that he messed up and so did she in hiding the truth. We should’ve seen them working together on getting rid of Shyam - even if neither trusted the other - and then realizing that despite hurting the other in the deepest ways, the love remained in some corner of their heart. My problem with the whole marriage is not that it happened, it’s that there’s no payoff to an excellent plot twist.

We don’t see Arnav coming to this conclusion of marrying Khushi, we know he pulls it off and then we see him telling Shyam every now and then that Khushi is ASR’s wife and Shyam should stay away from her and misinterpreting every Shyam-Khushi scenario.

There was no necessity for their marriage to be an abusive one. Loveless, hollow and full of angst - yes - but manipulation, control, contempt? No.

Interesting, I find myself analyzing the whole show in a different light and having a million new fic ideas - again! (And I realised that I wouldn’t write now what I wrote some time back on one of my older fics!).

Love,

S

P.S: If you liked this feel free to add/ask. Also, let me know if you'd like analyses in one single thread or as different topics!

Originally posted by: piyaarshi

Just admit, you are one of the people directly involved with the original show 😂😂

Like man, this fits so right and I think this is the actual reason for Arnav's actions for forced marriage. Ipkknd was always said to have great story line and I believe part of it was these analysis which were given to the leads and team. Of course not everything could be shown or explained to the audience, that's why most of us didn't really think upon this analogy.

Thank you, please keep up the good work!

Put it in different topics, that would be better for me 😊

Hahahaha! I wish I was one of the people directly involved in the show!!!

I'm so glad that my analysis made some sense - at one point this answer became my lists of hypotheses!

You know I feel maybe at one point this team suffered something a lot of writers do - living inside the mind of the characters so they forget to explain it to a third party who has no understanding of the character's mind.

Honestly I feel this whole terrace sequence was perfectly shot and written (would've changed the editing because it would have made a whole different impact if we saw this event from Arnav's perspective instead of a 'oh shit Arnav stay back' we would've gone to a 'oh no... why is Khushi hugging Shyam').

A few things that might have probably helped us reach the conclusion Arnav did is:

- Have some genuine Shyam, Anjali, Arnav moments without the creepy background music. Since we're over exposed to Shyam, it would've been nice if the writers began to show us again how sincere, lovable and important Shyam is to the family. Pull the audience into a false lull that Shyam has indeed changed post the 'revelation' to Khushi.

- ABSOLUTELY DO NOT GIVE US SHYAM'S PERSPECTIVE.

- Show the whole terrace sequence from Arnav's perspective first, thus leading the audience to question what's happening and be able to empathize with Arnav's heartbreak.

- Then reveal the misunderstanding.

And basically post marriage they shifted to Arnav calling her a 'gold digger' and all of that which puts focus on Arnav's class issues and all with Khushi instead of the fact that it was good faith with which he trusted Shyam and which turned his opinion of Khushi.

With his good faith destroyed, Arnav is not calling her a gold digger because at that moment she is hungry for money and status - he's basically reverting every single good opinion of Khushi and thinks the first impression he had about her was the right one.

I literally came up with this analysis after years of watching this scene and isolating it from the terrible post marriage sequences.

Lol, this is a LONG answer to your comment but thank you so much for your comment!

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

Hey, I really liked your analysis.

Thank you!

But I come to wonder, a person like Shyam (they are all around us) - well behaved infront of others, thoughtful and outwardly caring - No wonder Anjali and Shyam's relationship seemed perfect. How he called her Rani Sahiba, and treated her like a Queen, she had no reason to doubt her husband. In initial episodes, he also shows a lot of maturity when he advices other people at home. Shyam is also liked by all. Even by someone like Arnav, and we come to know he has been married to Anjali for two years already.

Oh I loved Shyam and in reality it's very difficult to spot a manipulative character like him. Probably the reason why he is one of my favorite villains ever!

Arnav - so bitter, angry, often controlling. Is he angry at Khushi, or also himself? Someone who doesn't believe in love and marriage (a past where love and marriage resulted in his beloved mother being cheated on and both his parents committing suicide - and he knows his father is to blame for it). He never let anyone in, always shutting others out.Never trusted anyone. Finally starts to fall for Khushi and is devastated to See Khushi & shyam together. Not just his love but also looses the faith in the love he had between Anjali & Shyam. Anjali, who is so naive, innocent, devoted and loving.

He hurts Khushi, and also himself. I don't see him punishing just Khushi.

Khushi is a kindhearted girl, who knows.. that she had hurt him, but didn't know why and how. She is a girl who can find happiness anywhere, literally a girl who IS happiness personified. Inspite of everything Arnav did to her, she can see his pain too.

Akash & Payal are the perfect foil for both Arnav & Khushi.

Akash, always calm and caring towards everyone. Even when he is angry at Payal, he shows his displeasure but never does once get physical towards her. Payal also has a calm personality very unlike her sister. Both Payal & Akash are able to communicate really well with each other.

True!

I have often thought if their names add more to their personality - Akash (like an open Sky - he doesn't have any hidden aspects to his personality or emotions, its easy to read him), Payal - perfectly grounded.

Khushi - Sacrifices for the happiness of others pretending to be happy, makes people happy wherever she goes.

Arnav - Ocean - his love and emotions seem deep as the ocean, and maybe even buried. May seem like

This is so beautiful! Yes! I always loved the sky being bound by an anklet *sigh*

As people, we would definitely want a relationship that is more like Akash & Payal.

Arnav probably needed a lot of therapy but, both of them are able to overcome their feelings of hate and misunderstandings - they are able to see each other at last. We can see that things aren't perfect between them but they are able to evolve themselves, and even change. (Probably the pride and prejudice effect). Because, both of them have a heart of gold underneath - that beats for only each other, in spite of everything, they are able to see and get past their mistakes.

I like to imagine they went to therapy beyond what we saw in the show :D

When Arnav finds out about Khushi's amma being the woman his father cheated his mother with, its the love & memory of his mother that reaches him and shows him the light to finally let go and see past the pain. The pain that engulfed and haunted him throughout his life, he is able see Khushi, the love of life through it, like a light at the end of the tunnel. He is able to overcome his past finally.

That is one of my favorite scenes!

While, people like Shyam who are so well behaved are scoundrels underneath and remain so till the end. He is never able to see the love Anjali has for him.

Indeed.

For me, it's more of a journey of self realisation and self discovery, while discovering each other. It's about love changing who and what you are, how someone can overcome their flaws because of love :-)❤️

Thank you so much for the wonderful comment!

So I actually watched this show while it was on air on Star Plus in 2011/2012.

I got all nostalgic recently and decided to rewatch it. Started last month, just finished watching all 406 episodes hence my little research on what others think about it. And I totally agree with your analysis.

It’s almost a decade since the show aired and rewatching it as an adult made me realise a lot of things in their relationship that I didn’t think was a problem due to my teenage mentality back then.

Also @dramebaaz.af hit the nail right on the head when they said “Arnav's marriage to Khushi was driven not because of wanting to protect Anjali and leaving Shayam with no options, but because he wasn't going to let Khushi go. In tying Khushi to himself, he killed two birds with one stone. In the end, he chose his love and his feelings before finding a way to protect his Di's illusion of love.”

I couldn’t agree more!

For years I was upset about how the show ended and how it got cancelled. Actually up until last week I wished for a revival but since finishing it today I’m glad it ended the way it did (- obviously excluding the whole Barun Sobti drama).

wait, Ridz is Phati-sari on Tumblr you? ohmygoddd I've been reading recaps these days just because every time you elaborate on the touches and Haq, my heart just goes ahhhhh ☺️

Originally posted by: IPodcastKKND

You bet! I think the whole structure of daily soaps really cost good content :( Some shows have literally made their plot MU-woman gets thrown out-sorry-MU again

Now I have watched like literally three or four shows and only followed two shows from beginning till end to say this but I think good content is possible is it's a finite episode soap. I watched Kuch Rang Pyar Ke after IPKKND from the beginning till end and I think if shows stick to a a whole timeline, it's possible to make somewhat decent content. Not to say Kuch Rang was amazing, but it stuck to a narrative since the beginning and ended when then show's contract was up instead of being cancelled by ratings. I think IPK was lucky that it ended when it ended because after Shyam's confession there wasn't much left to explore from the premise and if it had gone ahead, it would've been awful!

but you're right that it does end up costing us good content. Especially since mainstream Hindi channels have amazing reachability and then they show regressive stuff to keep their rating going.

Originally posted by: dramebaaz.af

wait, Ridz is Phati-sari on Tumblr you? ohmygoddd I've been reading recaps these days just because every time you elaborate on the touches and Haq, my heart just goes ahhhhh ☺️

IPodcastKKND is Jalebi weds Bluetooth on tumbler and she is mostly known as S.

Ridz is Bluemystique who does IPodcast with S aka IPodcastKKND aka Jalebi Weds Bluetooth.

Bluemystique is also a writer who wrote some wonderful stories based on IPKKND and conducted some beautiful interviews on IPKKND forum.

Cheers....

oh yes, I do love all her fanfics but thanks for clarification about Tumblr urls!