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Originally posted by: music_girl

Very disappointed episode for the last 5. 4 remains and the writer keeps disappointing after the time jump. . The writer seems disinterested and in a hurry to end the show with shitty parallels for s1, the admin doesn't want to promote the last 4 episodes, we have no countdown.

It was slow this time too but the fact that ninja had the best end and Alico's scene shoo*ting the ninja, I liked it more than last episode where Kulkan's end was disappointing.

We had a countdown while Cumali was advertisement some cleaning product with Idris's car with Medet. Many skipped that scene though as it was so silly to advertise the same cleaning agent and show the countdown that moment😆🤣

Originally posted by: music_girl

With late fragman I expected amazing episodes, but it was a mostly empty ones with endless talking. I have short scenes of less than 3 minutes that I liked during this 2.5 hours episode. The writer has lost his mind and under utilising his cast.

Akin scenes were great. He and Efsun were the best addition of s3 for me. They even look good next to each other. 😆Akin vs Amca 🔥 reminds me of Yamac so much. Akin with Yamali 👍🏼 With his mother, his conversation with Yamac, begging Efsun for help. I don't understand much of Efsun's powers/magic some called it reiki so I'll leave it to that and not dwell much on it. I hate Amca more than Idris. Akin moved to Yamac's house finally.

I expected this episode to be a cracker but it was slow. I hope next is better but things are wrapping up fast as I can see.

Akin moving to Yamac's house was the first step as now soon Sultan and Vartolu will be left alone when Saadet too decides to move hopefully.

I loved Akin's and Efsun's scene but won't talk about Efsun's magical powers as I don't believe in that. I expected a better reaction from Akin when Yasmin told him about the medicine but hopefully, he'll act on it now. Vartolu's reaction when Efsun came to the hospital was hilarious

Originally posted by: music_girl

Why so less of EfYam? Pretty sure one of them is going to die soon. Meke had so much screen time heck that nameless Ninja had so much time. We basically watched him stalking Emmi around like what the hell 😓🙃👎🏼👎🏼😡

Are EfYam only for pain and sad scenes which are 💔 don't they deserve a good conversation? I loved that 2 minute scene of Yamac going home all defeated and Efsun looked so beautiful. So short but pleasing to see. Masal and EfYam scenes are also short. Pretty sure Yamac is dying now that Emmi sealed the deal instead of telling who shot him *face palm*

Masal has a new soundtrack. Even Efsun has a new one in the hospital scene. I hope they release it soon. I love Cukur's music and Iyileşmiyor is one of my favourites.

EfYam getting the least screen time is sad actually but it has always been like this. They never discussed about Nehir earlier, had misunderstandings and now too the same. They barely talk.

I love the ninja scenes so won't complain about that. He was actually fun as from where he came and where he disappeared, nobody knows it Meke was given irrelevant scenes though but they wanted to prove he is earning bread for his pregnant wife 🙃

I don't think Yamac will di*e in the end because nothing points to it while it show that he may leave Cukur in the end and have that beach dream (although that dream is scary to me lol).

Efsun at the hiospital scene's music was an old one. It was played for Kahraman I guess.

Originally posted by: music_girl

RIP VarYam. One of the best developments through 4 seasons. There is no turning back. Brothers will remain separated, Salih has become so dumb, Yamac is too in your face with his rebellion. Cumali and Salih seemed to have good scenes only in s2. Salih was finally called abi for them to break up again. This fight is stupid, mindless and irritating. Salih and Yamac still love one another. It's evident but the dragging

Vartolu tells Yamac whether he wants to become a brother's killer

I mean, how can he even blame Yamac and think Yamac wants him killed? Medet also disappointed me.

But since I never liked Vartolu from the beginning, I don't mind it. I just want my Yamac to be happy. I am scared Vartolu will attack Yamac as he threatened him. Nothing should happen to Yamac now 😭

Originally posted by: music_girl

Emmi dead. Expected but he gave Yamac another burden. That's sad. Watch Yamac sacrifice people and himself for that hellhole. Like man, you have an amazing daughter who deserves to have you as a father by her side but noooo...idris and his messed up teachings first... just watch him give everything to save a place where people don't want to be saved 😭😭😭

I loved Emmi the most 💔

He was the best among the three and they kill*ed him too

Yamac will always love Cukur the most but hope in the end he leaves it

Originally posted by: music_girl

Yamac scenes were good. Liked his idea of k the ninja but he could have also shot him. One of the best scenes of this otherwise empty episode is Yamac screaming at the traitors (for whom he'll do anything) and shooting Ecevit on the leg 🤣 I loved that especially how he ordered him to knock on each door. Same people when Yamac had a headache in s3 they rushed to help him (s3 E10 where he goes to Ef, parallels). Yamac hadn't got over his trauma of Selim, Kemal and Idris dying in his arms now add Emmi in the list. Emmi was as useless as Idris in his last words 🤡 Yamac was so defeated it's so sad.

The end of ninja was the best and that dance too

I did not like Yamac shooting Ecevit on the leg but got the point he wanted to prove. It was so sad to see nobody helping him but Ecevit deserved it

Why did they not make Emmi tell amja sho*t him is beyond me but my hope is on the laptop

Originally posted by: music_girl

I stopped watching the live after 75 minutes into it. I preferred to sleep 😆 Undeserving last 5 episode of a show like Cukur which is a benchmark in itself. 😳👎🏼 low expectations for next episode.

Yamac dying at Efsun's doorstep just like the fairytale she told him about her mother. Just like she found him the first time. I'm betting on this or dying in her arms. 🤡💔💔 EfYaMas deserved a happy ending after 3 years of separation and torture.

Damla and Efsun are not just mothers. One conquered the maf*ia in a span of months and one was born in the world. Should give them more screen time. 🤡 Both Damla and Ef looked amazing. I hope the writer remembers they are more than stunning women.

Yamac and Efsun have had such a wonderful story. He knocks at her door, wounded, asks for help and she heals him. It has never changed which means the writers planned them from the start and their bond cannot be comprehended despite them being enemies and now lovers. They hadn't to even explain each other what they were but both realized it that there was something between them. Love it ❤️

I want both of them to die together, if at all

I liked Damla's and Efsun's look too and noticed how Cumali was also impressed by Damla

Originally posted by: music_girl

Laptop might open next episode. 🤡 Emmi funeral Salih still being brainwashed 💔 Yamac will find out about Celo and Karaca next to next episode for sure the way GH is dragging this 🤪🤪

My hope on a laptop now but that mad Kulkan put a password too

Too much will be revealed next episode but hope they don't show irrelevant ads now

Originally posted by: music_girl

I don't care. I just want Yamac to survive physically and mentally healthy to be with EfMasal, his son and possibly a third daughter from Efsun. They are worth living for, Yamac. 😭

I hope too. Want Yamac to have a happy ending. After so much suffering if anyone deserves it, it's him.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Cumali might be dead soon. First brother to go. Meke is definitely dying because he got too much screenspace 😆 Salih will probably die saving Yamac as a parallel of him coming to the pit after killing his brother Kahraman. Sultan might also die (I don't want more women to suffer...enough). Saadet might also die? Akin and Yasemin will survive I'm definitely sure.

The actor Necip is leaving so his character will di*e too. Don't care about Meke as he's always in between the enemy and Yamac

@bold 🤣

I want Sultan to live as her crying gives me peace of mind. Her living, will be her hell

Looking at how they are trying to reveal Akin's and Efsun's connection, I guess Akin is dyin*g soon.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Meanwhile Nedim is still alive. 😡🤡 Need more action scenes. Can the writer surprise us with a funeral of 3 people?! Celo and Karaca are already decomposing by now 😡

Also did you notice the Akin-Efsun connection was brought again but this time interrupted by Masal. I have a feeling Yamac wouldn't like it because he just doesn't listen and loses his mind or it might not be brought up again. Can be either.

Nedim will go but when is the question

I too want more action scenes. Like I also feel, Akin will be exposed soon. I want a proper scene for Akin's revelation.

Originally posted by: music_girl

You think Yamac will be able to cope with Emmi's death? Cumali? Sultan? It's going to hit them so hard. I want them to know about CelKar in same episode so we get some actions scenes next 😆 this writer is sick, we will need therapy after this show...just guessing the ending drives me nuts 😆

Yamac will lose too many people so he won't be able to stand by himself at all till amca di*es. I'm watching Masumlar too so I defo need therapy

Originally posted by: music_girl

You think Yamac will not use gu*ns? He had 2 dreams, 1st with 3 children and the woman he loves on the beach and 2nd a clean crime free Cukur. I strongly wish for both but if I have to choose between the 2, I'd take the first option 😆

Only great thing about s4 is Masal and Asiye.

Loved the Icerde reference since it seemed more detailed than most of the scenes in this episode 😒

I guess Yamac will stop trading gu*ns in Cukur or may be completely stopped. Hope it comes true. I love Masal and Asiye.

Originally posted by: roni_berna

It was slow this time too but the fact that ninja had the best end and Alico's scene shoo*ting the ninja, I liked it more than last episode where Kulkan's end was disappointing.

We had a countdown while Cumali was advertisement some cleaning product with Idris's car with Medet. Many skipped that scene though as it was so silly to advertise the same cleaning agent and show the countdown that moment😆🤣

I expected this episode to be a cracker but it was slow. I hope next is better but things are wrapping up fast as I can see.

Akin moving to Yamac's house was the first step as now soon Sultan and Vartolu will be left alone when Saadet too decides to move hopefully.

I loved Akin's and Efsun's scene but won't talk about Efsun's magical powers as I don't believe in that. I expected a better reaction from Akin when Yasmin told him about the medicine but hopefully, he'll act on it now. Vartolu's reaction when Efsun came to the hospital was hilarious

EfYam getting the least screen time is sad actually but it has always been like this. They never discussed about Nehir earlier, had misunderstandings and now too the same. They barely talk.

I love the ninja scenes so won't complain about that. He was actually fun as from where he came and where he disappeared, nobody knows it Meke was given irrelevant scenes though but they wanted to prove he is earning bread for his pregnant wife 🙃

I don't think Yamac will di*e in the end because nothing points to it while it show that he may leave Cukur in the end and have that beach dream (although that dream is scary to me lol).

Efsun at the hiospital scene's music was an old one. It was played for Kahraman I guess.

Vartolu tells Yamac whether he wants to become a brother's killer

I mean, how can he even blame Yamac and think Yamac wants him killed? Medet also disappointed me.

But since I never liked Vartolu from the beginning, I don't mind it. I just want my Yamac to be happy. I am scared Vartolu will attack Yamac as he threatened him. Nothing should happen to Yamac now 😭

I loved Emmi the most 💔

He was the best among the three and they kill*ed him too

Yamac will always love Cukur the most but hope in the end he leaves it

The end of ninja was the best and that dance too

I did not like Yamac shooting Ecevit on the leg but got the point he wanted to prove. It was so sad to see nobody helping him but Ecevit deserved it

Why did they not make Emmi tell amja sho*t him is beyond me but my hope is on the laptop

Yamac and Efsun have had such a wonderful story. He knocks at her door, wounded, asks for help and she heals him. It has never changed which means the writers planned them from the start and their bond cannot be comprehended despite them being enemies and now lovers. They hadn't to even explain each other what they were but both realized it that there was something between them. Love it ❤️

I want both of them to die together, if at all

I liked Damla's and Efsun's look too and noticed how Cumali was also impressed by Damla

My hope on a laptop now but that mad Kulkan put a password too

Too much will be revealed next episode but hope they don't show irrelevant ads now

I hope too. Want Yamac to have a happy ending. After so much suffering if anyone deserves it, it's him.

The actor Necip is leaving so his character will di*e too. Don't care about Meke as he's always in between the enemy and Yamac

@bold 🤣

I want Sultan to live as her crying gives me peace of mind. Her living, will be her hell

Looking at how they are trying to reveal Akin's and Efsun's connection, I guess Akin is dyin*g soon.

Nedim will go but when is the question

I too want more action scenes. Like I also feel, Akin will be exposed soon. I want a proper scene for Akin's revelation.

Yamac will lose too many people so he won't be able to stand by himself at all till amca di*es. I'm watching Masumlar too so I defo need therapy

I guess Yamac will stop trading gu*ns in Cukur or may be completely stopped. Hope it comes true. I love Masal and Asiye.

No, I meant countdown like little videos they did with brothers writing the countdowns, not included in the episode. Like s2.

Did you see they got Emmi's name wrong for the funeral 🤣*I'm editing this because they changed it, at first it was Cihangir which was Pasa's name* I also liked Emmi, better than Idris and Pasa, was a better father figure also. I still can't figure out why Idris and Sultan are hero-worshipped so much when they are messed up, hypocrites and selfish. All the Kocos are cray cray.

Everyone's expecting Vartolu and Efsun to meet since season 3. All we got are Salih's confused faces with his hands in the air 🤣 *edited: did you see how Ef was looking at Salih during funeral, that's all we gonna get / new fragman is bomb, Cukur standards*

I know you don't like Salih while I love him. I figured it out. All bros relationship are different but special. Salih and Yamac's best scenes are S3E19/20 and the graveyard scenes. Salih's show-off side and Yamac's maniac side are entertaining 😆

Best characters (for me) in these seasons apart from Yamac are (they actually had arcs and were well-developed considering Pit standards 😆)

S1 - Salih Enemies: Baykal, Emrah and Nazim, they were entertaining along with Salih and Selim 😆

S2 - Cumali of course and Selim 😆 Enemies: Timsah 🤣 He even had his own song 🤣

S3 - Efsun and Akin, no longer enemies.

S4 - Masal and Asiye 😆❤️

I always felt the writer never really focus on female characters compared to male. There wasn't any worthy female character that screamed power except Sultan until Efsun came along. I loved her bit*ch boss attitude and her style and how she used to order Timsah, Azer add Murtaza also. 😆

Love stories in Cukur are doomed. But the whole enemy to lovers genre is my fav. I liked Salih-Sadeet in S1, DamCum in S2 and EfYam in S3. Even though they have less screen time they have amazing dialogues, cinematography and are aesthetically pleasing (first scenes in Switzerland 😆), just love their 'herseye ragmen' dialogue Do you know which episode does Yamac realises Ef loves him? in s3E10 he feels something because he asks why do you do this / staying awake so that he sleeps peacefully but in s3E20 when he goes to her injured and she says she called the doctor, he is just surprised she loves him to that extent and tries to make her confess??

I also liked the fact it was Yamac that made the first move, she was too proud to do so and never expected anything in return for every single time she protected and saved his life. ❤️ Also the fact, Yamac cannot scream or order her around. 😆 What's funny is Yamac and Baykal connection 🤣 Baykal must be rolling in his grave rn. The fact that Yamac chose Efsun despite everything again and again, wanting to wait to be with her, defying his family because he just couldn't do it without her. + Damla Sonmez is an amazing actor.

I think it was a new soundtrack. It had some mystical/magical sounds mixed with the jenerik.

Necip's new show is at the end of May, isn't it? So he might die in the last 2 episodes. I also want egoistic Sultan to live in pain 😆

I'm worried about Efsun-Akin connection. First, Yamac will go ballistics because Efsun didn't tell him and what Akin did. I feel more on Efsun hiding the fact. I think when she gave up on her revenge, she didn't want to associate with anything of the pit until Yamac forced her to reveal her feeling. He will eventually forgive Akin.

I started Kardeslerim. It's so sad.

Originally posted by: roni_berna

It was slow this time too but the fact that ninja had the best end and Alico's scene shoo*ting the ninja, I liked it more than last episode where Kulkan's end was disappointing.

We had a countdown while Cumali was advertisement some cleaning product with Idris's car with Medet. Many skipped that scene though as it was so silly to advertise the same cleaning agent and show the countdown that moment😆🤣

It was an excellent episode. I loved and enjoyed every minute of it. I hope they tone down the flashbacks because at this stage everyone is following. I also like that they didn't spoil much about the episode and we got 1 extra. 4 more to go.

EKK and Aras were phenomenal. Amazing acting by Necip, Burak and Riza also. I'm glad that the women had something useful to do well except Sultan. 😳

Emmi part was sad but not enough though to make me emotional. 😆 Yamac was so broken. Akin's hug ❤️ I am loving these character developments.

Funeral fight. I didn't like the whole blame game but Salih was so crushed. Shouldn't have crossed the line though 💔 Funny how it's Cumali who has become the calm one and separating the 2 😆 development indeed.

I like how Efsun observes, listens and then talks. Since she isn't emotionally attached to any of the other Kocos she can understand Yamac's perspective easily. I love how much Yamac values her despite being so broken himself. ❤️ I'm glad she was in the episode for more than 2 minutes 😆 but it scares me also...their dialogues and all... especially when Yamac didn't tell her what Amca tried to do with her ... hopefully it's just me being paranoid 😳

Felt so sad for Ayse. It's going to be hard especially when she told Salih to look for the living instead of being upset about the dead. 💔💔 Murtaza and her relationship is so weird. Murtaza is weird 😆 he was right though 'I'm too old for this'.

Akin and Yasemin 👍🏼 I love Akin's soundtrack... makes him the maniac. I loved the transition where he loses his mind when he realised what Yasemin said... Amca might have kill*ed Karaca and he turned the house upside down. When he couldn't do it himself, he went to talk to Yamac. 👍🏼👍🏼

Saadet also had a crucial part. 👏 She understood that Karaca might be in danger, looked for the bullet and left home. I didn't like how she decided to break the news to Salih who was already in denial. But finally everyone contributed in the episode. 👍🏼

Cumali was great but less screenspace. Could cut down flashbacks and give him some scenes. Him asking Damla if she had a weapon and then giving her his and both of them running 👍🏼 development from S2 and S3 👍🏼

I love the shots where they are running in different streets. All the men and Damla 👏👏 That "are you okay?" From Cumali and Yamac 👍🏼 deep inside Cumali loves this Vartolu 😆 even Salih was happy. Yamac taunting the cukur men 👏😆 his dig at Ecevit 😆

Salih. Oh poor guy. He was in so denial from the start to the end 🥺 Amazing acting by Erkan 😭 how he felt alone, ganged up by his brothers and wife... how he relentlessly looked for K cos of the last memory of Selim 🥺 him dropping his guns in defeat after Yamac scolded them. I hated the raise hand part. Salih would never do that because of how he saw Mihirban suffer. I'll ignore this part 🤡

Sultan didn't love Selim didn't she... she cried more for Emmi than Selim 🤡 Selim who just wanted to be loved

Ferhat, the saviour when Yamac was giving up and Efsun didn't want him to give up. I like how Yamac listens to what she has to say 👏 Separations and tortures have made them value eo so much. Also that awkward Cumali-Efsun scene 🤣 Damla trying to break the ice. Yamac saying he would never give up on Salih ❤️

Last scene from the video to the forest was amazing. Brilliant. Salih watching the video and realising he was played for 3 years, 3 years of sacrifice in vain, 3 people dead. Yamac taunting the Cukur people and playing the video again 😆 Straight savage 😆 Salih connecting the dots with the car and his reaction... till they reached the forest and he was still in denial.. where is Karaca, she is not here especially when digging the soil 🥺 Lastly both brothers reactions, guilt, pain, helplessness they couldn't protect their dead brother's daughter 👍🏼 Amazing performance 👍🏼

They are yet to find Celo buried next to Karaca. Another blow. The show has went totally dark with this digging and hand thing. It will be more dark from now. They have to announce these deaths to the family 💔 I think now the Kocos will be unstoppable and unstable in their anger. But Amca still has the upper hand...

Upcoming deaths Murtaza, Ayse and Nedim. I don't want M&A to go. They could be useful. Meke also. We need more people and GH is on a spree 💔 Nedim finally 😆 amca will use Kulkans torture methods on Y. I think Amca might use the children 🤔 I hope not... hopefully these Kocos learn from all their enemies...

Kulkan's video had 2 parts, 1st Yamac and 2nd Efsun. Seems like the whole new Cukur was built with Efsun's money 😆 Baykal is always a key element 😆 I hope everything from S1 is connected like why would a successful man like Baykal be after Cukur? Who were the other enemies sent? Under whom Baykal worked?

I missed the 2 baby girls in this episode.

Originally posted by: music_girl

No, I meant countdown like little videos they did with brothers writing the countdowns, not included in the episode. Like s2.

Did you see they got Emmi's name wrong for the funeral 🤣*I'm editing this because they changed it, at first it was Cihangir which was Pasa's name* I also liked Emmi, better than Idris and Pasa, was a better father figure also. I still can't figure out why Idris and Sultan are hero-worshipped so much when they are messed up, hypocrites and selfish. All the Kocos are cray cray.

I saw the name was Pasa's and then they changed it It would have been so silly to make such a grave mistake in the name when Emmi had just taken his own name few episodes back despite having Alzheimer's

I never watched Cukur live before season 4 and started it during the lockdown last year in June. They showed a video yesterday with the countdown.

I liked Pasa for the fact he was so intelligent and strong while my love was always Emmi as he was right and honest. Idris made too many mistakes of which I cannot understand him sho*oting Meliha who was innocent just for the sake of Cukur. Sultan was strict and made mistakes too but Idris was to blame for them.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Everyone's expecting Vartolu and Efsun to meet since season 3. All we got are Salih's confused faces with his hands in the air 🤣 *edited: did you see how Ef was looking at Salih during funeral, that's all we gonna get / new fragman is bomb, Cukur standards*

I know you don't like Salih while I love him. I figured it out. All bros relationship are different but special. Salih and Yamac's best scenes are S3E19/20 and the graveyard scenes. Salih's show-off side and Yamac's maniac side are entertaining 😆

Best characters (for me) in these seasons apart from Yamac are (they actually had arcs and were well-developed considering Pit standards 😆)

S1 - Salih Enemies: Baykal, Emrah and Nazim, they were entertaining along with Salih and Selim 😆

S2 - Cumali of course and Selim 😆 Enemies: Timsah 🤣 He even had his own song 🤣

S3 - Efsun and Akin, no longer enemies.

S4 - Masal and Asiye 😆❤️

I also got to know from Twitter than the actors Efsun and Vartolu acted in a movie earlier

Efsun gave a strange stare at Vartolu

I actually liked all the four brothers only in season 3 (especially after episode 20) but season 4 ruined it. Cumali shoo*ting his own brother, Vartolu supporting amca, Selim too being angry with Yamac, it was all in pieces then. I then started supporting only Yamac and whoever did or does wrong to him, I will cancel that person

I wished Baykal had to stay a bit longer as his character was interesting. Timsah was the best with his nonsensical dialogue even while dyin*g "I know you did not kill Azer's brother" and Vartolu saying "I know that too".

Originally posted by: music_girl

I always felt the writer never really focus on female characters compared to male. There wasn't any worthy female character that screamed power except Sultan until Efsun came along. I loved her bit*ch boss attitude and her style and how she used to order Timsah, Azer add Murtaza also. 😆

Love stories in Cukur are doomed. But the whole enemy to lovers genre is my fav. I liked Salih-Sadeet in S1, DamCum in S2 and EfYam in S3. Even though they have less screen time they have amazing dialogues, cinematography and are aesthetically pleasing (first scenes in Switzerland 😆), just love their 'herseye ragmen' dialogue Do you know which episode does Yamac realises Ef loves him? in s3E10 he feels something because he asks why do you do this / staying awake so that he sleeps peacefully but in s3E20 when he goes to her injured and she says she called the doctor, he is just surprised she loves him to that extent and tries to make her confess??

I also liked the fact it was Yamac that made the first move, she was too proud to do so and never expected anything in return for every single time she protected and saved his life. ❤️ Also the fact, Yamac cannot scream or order her around. 😆 What's funny is Yamac and Baykal connection 🤣 Baykal must be rolling in his grave rn. The fact that Yamac chose Efsun despite everything again and again, wanting to wait to be with her, defying his family because he just couldn't do it without her. + Damla Sonmez is an amazing actor.

Yeah, female characters were pretty ignored. Well, I hated Efsun till episode 10 as she was equally responsible for Yamac's pain as Azer and used to get annoyed with Nehir's stalking behavior. I loved Sena so I felt that it was unfair Yamac moves on when she sacrificed her life for him. But later when they made Nehir offer him drinks and pizza for a baby, I gave up and said Efsun is better. Atleast she's putting him to sleep and not acting so desperate.

Efsun as a villain was boring. She never participated in any shoo*touts too and just kept paying everyone Seren had a better role there. That's why the best was to make her do nothing

I don't like her stalking Nehir and going to Cagatay but makers wanted her to act idiotic so they showed that nonsense

I never realized Yamac loved her till episode 20 On rewatching their scenes, I noticed that he felt she was the only enemy who treated him when she could have kil*led him when he was injured. He came to her with an empty gun so that she kil*ls him but she again did not. That's what made him think she's deceived like he was earlier. I also feel that her putting him to sleep and herself keeping awake made him realize she loves him and he started feeling for her. He tried to avoid the fact as she was a enemy and at the terrace too, Nehir told her he closes his eyes with her as if thinking of someone else (I though it was Sena but it was actually Efsun).

I did not like Salih-Saadet story but liked Saadet as an individual. Too innocent for that family and never got the respect she deserves. Also, in case of Sena and Yamac, I loved Sena more while now in case of Yamac and Efsun, I love Yamac more.

Originally posted by: music_girl

I think it was a new soundtrack. It had some mystical/magical sounds mixed with the jenerik.

Necip's new show is at the end of May, isn't it? So he might die in the last 2 episodes. I also want egoistic Sultan to live in pain 😆

I'm worried about Efsun-Akin connection. First, Yamac will go ballistics because Efsun didn't tell him and what Akin did. I feel more on Efsun hiding the fact. I think when she gave up on her revenge, she didn't want to associate with anything of the pit until Yamac forced her to reveal her feeling. He will eventually forgive Akin.

I started Kardeslerim. It's so sad.

Akin may not get time to justify himself and may di*e while confessing everything.

No clue about Necip's show but his character is ending. Watching Teskilat now and is also very good along with Marasli but Marasli may not last as ratings are bad.

Originally posted by: roni_berna

I saw the name was Pasa's and then they changed it It would have been so silly to make such a grave mistake in the name when Emmi had just taken his own name few episodes back despite having Alzheimer's

I never watched Cukur live before season 4 and started it during the lockdown last year in June. They showed a video yesterday with the countdown.

I liked Pasa for the fact he was so intelligent and strong while my love was always Emmi as he was right and honest. Idris made too many mistakes of which I cannot understand him sho*oting Meliha who was innocent just for the sake of Cukur. Sultan was strict and made mistakes too but Idris was to blame for them.

I also got to know from Twitter than the actors Efsun and Vartolu acted in a movie earlier

Efsun gave a strange stare at Vartolu

I actually liked all the four brothers only in season 3 (especially after episode 20) but season 4 ruined it. Cumali shoo*ting his own brother, Vartolu supporting amca, Selim too being angry with Yamac, it was all in pieces then. I then started supporting only Yamac and whoever did or does wrong to him, I will cancel that person

I wished Baykal had to stay a bit longer as his character was interesting. Timsah was the best with his nonsensical dialogue even while dyin*g "I know you did not kill Azer's brother" and Vartolu saying "I know that too".

Yeah, female characters were pretty ignored. Well, I hated Efsun till episode 10 as she was equally responsible for Yamac's pain as Azer and used to get annoyed with Nehir's stalking behavior. I loved Sena so I felt that it was unfair Yamac moves on when she sacrificed her life for him. But later when they made Nehir offer him drinks and pizza for a baby, I gave up and said Efsun is better. Atleast she's putting him to sleep and not acting so desperate.

Efsun as a villain was boring. She never participated in any shoo*touts too and just kept paying everyone Seren had a better role there. That's why the best was to make her do nothing

I don't like her stalking Nehir and going to Cagatay but makers wanted her to act idiotic so they showed that nonsense

I never realized Yamac loved her till episode 20 On rewatching their scenes, I noticed that he felt she was the only enemy who treated him when she could have kil*led him when he was injured. He came to her with an empty gun so that she kil*ls him but she again did not. That's what made him think she's deceived like he was earlier. I also feel that her putting him to sleep and herself keeping awake made him realize she loves him and he started feeling for her. He tried to avoid the fact as she was a enemy and at the terrace too, Nehir told her he closes his eyes with her as if thinking of someone else (I though it was Sena but it was actually Efsun).

I did not like Salih-Saadet story but liked Saadet as an individual. Too innocent for that family and never got the respect she deserves. Also, in case of Sena and Yamac, I loved Sena more while now in case of Yamac and Efsun, I love Yamac more.

Akin may not get time to justify himself and may di*e while confessing everything.

No clue about Necip's show but his character is ending. Watching Teskilat now and is also very good along with Marasli but Marasli may not last as ratings are bad.

Sena was nice, sweet and naive girl but interfered too much in the start with Y's work. But I knew she was going to die. S&Y were cute and honestly I ignored them mostly, their story was kinda bland. Y had the upper hand in their relationship. Same with Aksin you cannot be naive and innocent and expect to live in Cukur if Yamac wasn't the main lead, he would have get killed too 😆 these Kocos men think they will always protect the defenseless women in the house, like they haven't learn anything since they keep getting kidnapped again and again ... Thank god for Damla😆 refreshing to see someone who could handle herself ... Damla is definitely my fav Koco lady 👏 I am surprised why no women were made to learn self-defense before Cumali taught Karaca Kocovalis are really stupid at times, all of them

I find E&Y equal. Y cannot make her do what he wants, which he did with others and E has a sound presence of mind (I'm ignoring this Nehir-Cagatay angle because clearly the writer wanted to stretch that stupid triangle as long as he could when everything was cleared at S4E9). Y annoyed me at times with his jealousy and over the top screaming 😆 and not listening, the stubborn donkey 😆

About Y moving on, he did it with Nehir. Honestly he was mentally unstable as E mentioned to N in the episode in the Erdenet mansion. Guy literally said 'magnificent' to his enemy when he first saw her so yes, he was definitely not in the right state of mind and went to N to forget his pain as he mentioned in episode 13 or 14. I think more than months passed by till he got together with E.

If you are going to be naive, dumb and not strategic enough, you'll die in Cukur. I am not blaming them for their sacrifices but it's a fact. Knowing staying in such a dangerous place...Applies to all innocents who died Nedret, Sena, Aksin, Acar (can't blame him, he was a kid), / Karaca made a dumb move in anger, Selim trusted blindly that Cemil... applies to everyone ... only N was lucky enough to escape 😆

About Alico's/Emmi's letter I hope it's something that shakes the whole foundation of Cukur. Better be worth it since it got dragged since S2. I especially don't want it to end with Saint Idris and the whole Aile Her Seye Bs. 😆 Like you said everyone keeps betraying eo / Y. 🤡 I still believe Akin won't die, he is too smart compared to C, Y and S😆. I have a feeling C, Y and S will die though. 🤡💔

Also in dizis or soaps in general, the whole mourning/moving on period is mostly not relatable, so I tend to ignore such things. If I dont like it I stop watching, just like Söz, I watched 2 seasons I stopped after Bahar died even though I like Denise Baysal 😆 I think many fans on Twitter especially should do that because they make everything fan wars especially crucifying Y every time 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ it's pointless

Originally posted by: music_girl

Sena was nice, sweet and naive girl but interfered too much in the start with Y's work. But I knew she was going to die. S&Y were cute and honestly I ignored them mostly, their story was kinda bland. Y had the upper hand in their relationship. Same with Aksin you cannot be naive and innocent and expect to live in Cukur if Yamac wasn't the main lead, he would have get killed too 😆 these Kocos men think they will always protect the defenseless women in the house, like they haven't learn anything since they keep getting kidnapped again and again ... Thank god for Damla😆 refreshing to see someone who could handle herself ... Damla is definitely my fav Koco lady 👏 I am surprised why no women were made to learn self-defense before Cumali taught Karaca Kocovalis are really stupid at times, all of them

I find E&Y equal. Y cannot make her do what he wants, which he did with others and E has a sound presence of mind (I'm ignoring this Nehir-Cagatay angle because clearly the writer wanted to stretch that stupid triangle as long as he could when everything was cleared at S4E9). Y annoyed me at times with his jealousy and over the top screaming 😆 and not listening, the stubborn donkey 😆

About Y moving on, he did it with Nehir. Honestly he was mentally unstable as E mentioned to N in the episode in the Erdenet mansion. Guy literally said 'magnificent' to his enemy when he first saw her so yes, he was definitely not in the right state of mind and went to N to forget his pain as he mentioned in episode 13 or 14. I think more than months passed by till he got together with E.

If you are going to be naive, dumb and not strategic enough, you'll die in Cukur. I am not blaming them for their sacrifices but it's a fact. Knowing staying in such a dangerous place...Applies to all innocents who died Nedret, Sena, Aksin, Acar (can't blame him, he was a kid), / Karaca made a dumb move in anger, Selim trusted blindly that Cemil... applies to everyone ... only N was lucky enough to escape 😆

About Alico's/Emmi's letter I hope it's something that shakes the whole foundation of Cukur. Better be worth it since it got dragged since S2. I especially don't want it to end with Saint Idris and the whole Aile Her Seye Bs. 😆 Like you said everyone keeps betraying eo / Y. 🤡 I still believe Akin won't die, he is too smart compared to C, Y and S😆. I have a feeling C, Y and S will die though. 🤡💔

Also in dizis or soaps in general, the whole mourning/moving on period is mostly not relatable, so I tend to ignore such things. If I dont like it I stop watching, just like Söz, I watched 2 seasons I stopped after Bahar died even though I like Denise Baysal 😆 I think many fans on Twitter especially should do that because they make everything fan wars especially crucifying Y every time 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️ it's pointless

I used to find Sena hiding too many things in the beginning which is why I knew she would di*e but because I read a spoiler, I knew which episode she would di*e but still cried for her end. It was too cruel. to make a person get desperate for a breath and struggle till their last breath is terrible to watch. I don't know what the writers thought of even while writing such a crue*l deat*h for her.

Damla suited the Kocavalis but I till now never see her involvement as such. She used to participate earlier in the meeting of Kocavali bros but then they reduced her to making soup.

There are times I don't agree with Yamac as when he yelled at Sultan in S3 and then told Karaca that she'll not have a family if she chose Azer. He should have explained the reasons better. Also, him not telling the family about Efsun before bringing her in the house created a chaos after that.

Never knew Yamac even said anything to E when he met her and read it on Twitter . I can't imagine that after watching the show last year for 3 months, I did not know so much that actually was shown. Also, Emrah-Yamac's scene was cut wherein he acknowledged to have known Sena was his half-sister and he had feelings for her.

I wonder what's the secret in the letter (if there is any ) and what relation has Meliha have with Cumali I wanted Akin's secret to be out months back but they aren't interested in that too. Wonder why they introduced Seher too but whatever, they have too many strange plots that were added to add more confusion

I generally don't like men moving on so easily after the female's deat*h like Feriha but Yamac's relationship with Efsun was completely different and after too many episodes. I don't think he wanted Nehir ever or had a relationship with her and hence, don't consider him moving on. He just wanted a friend, not a lover. I couldn't understand Emir moving on when Feriha die*d as he turned out to be a different person who wanted to take revenge by taking advantage of the enemy's sister. It was really a bad thing to show as Emir wasn't so cru*el. I never liked Gunes too as they made her a copy of Feriha but never hated her or said anything bad about her as Emir was to be blamed for it.

Originally posted by: music_girl

It was an excellent episode. I loved and enjoyed every minute of it. I hope they tone down the flashbacks because at this stage everyone is following. I also like that they didn't spoil much about the episode and we got 1 extra. 4 more to go.

I loved the episode

Just like you said too there were too many fbs but it was still good. They actually showed everything in the trailer that we knew what will happen but they have been doing it since 4-5 episodes and their taglines are just annoying. Why reveal who's going to di*e? 😆

Originally posted by: music_girl

EKK and Aras were phenomenal. Amazing acting by Necip, Burak and Riza also. I'm glad that the women had something useful to do well except Sultan. 😳

Emmi part was sad but not enough though to make me emotional. 😆 Yamac was so broken. Akin's hug ❤️ I am loving these character developments.

Funeral fight. I didn't like the whole blame game but Salih was so crushed. Shouldn't have crossed the line though 💔 Funny how it's Cumali who has become the calm one and separating the 2 😆 development indeed.

I wonder why was Sultan crying so much. She did not cry so much for Idris and Selim too ...She never even spoke to Emmi for years and never cared he was missing with Alico then why 🤣

I cried when that man kept running on the streets screaming his name 😭Then Yamac picking up his body was also too painful

Cumali is waiting with fire within him to attack Salih Yamac was just too angry and burst out on Vartolu but Vartolu did deserve it. He blamed everyone but amca. Amca is in Afghanistan was the best line If Vartolu is told that Saadet ran away with Nedim by amca, he'll believe that too

Originally posted by: music_girl

I like how Efsun observes, listens and then talks. Since she isn't emotionally attached to any of the other Kocos she can understand Yamac's perspective easily. I love how much Yamac values her despite being so broken himself. ❤️ I'm glad she was in the episode for more than 2 minutes 😆 but it scares me also...their dialogues and all... especially when Yamac didn't tell her what Amca tried to do with her ... hopefully it's just me being paranoid 😳

Felt so sad for Ayse. It's going to be hard especially when she told Salih to look for the living instead of being upset about the dead. 💔💔 Murtaza and her relationship is so weird. Murtaza is weird 😆 he was right though 'I'm too old for this'.

Akin and Yasemin 👍🏼 I love Akin's soundtrack... makes him the maniac. I loved the transition where he loses his mind when he realised what Yasemin said... Amca might have kill*ed Karaca and he turned the house upside down. When he couldn't do it himself, he went to talk to Yamac. 👍🏼👍🏼

Efsun has returned to herself and understands how much Yamac's family means to him. Glad, she's understanding that. She got screenspace for so much time that I was shocked She knows now how amca got her money so she should work to get it back and by new clothes

I cannot see Ayse's state. She just breaks me. Loved her since first season and though she never showed affection for her kids, she did love them. I won't be able to bear the next episode when she sees her daughter's bod*y 😭

Murtaza is just too selfish. Found him foolish earlier but now he just doesn't care about anybody which is weird after he showed affection for Ayse and now keeps cheating on her 🤔

I so want Akin to be back to his original self and ki*ll Nedim and amca as more than Vartolu, he deserves to do it. Was shocked they did not show him finding the bod*y in the end.

I love Burak's acting. He's too natural ❤️

Originally posted by: music_girl

Saadet also had a crucial part. 👏 She understood that Karaca might be in danger, looked for the bullet and left home. I didn't like how she decided to break the news to Salih who was already in denial. But finally everyone contributed in the episode. 👍🏼

Loved Saadet so much Her crying for her and getting scared when she found the bull*et shell was so painful to watch.😭 I actually loved how she confronted Vartolu but his reaction made me even more angr*y. He doesn't believe that amca can kil*l anyone just because he knows him for 3 years? His awakening took too long and we already lost 3 lives 😭

Originally posted by: music_girl

Cumali was great but less screenspace. Could cut down flashbacks and give him some scenes. Him asking Damla if she had a weapon and then giving her his and both of them running 👍🏼 development from S2 and S3 👍🏼

I love the shots where they are running in different streets. All the men and Damla 👏👏 That "are you okay?" From Cumali and Yamac 👍🏼 deep inside Cumali loves this Vartolu 😆 even Salih was happy. Yamac taunting the cukur men 👏😆 his dig at Ecevit 😆

I love how Cumali has changed for the better and that scene with Damla. Was shocked to see Cumali asking Vartolu if he was fine

Originally posted by: music_girl

Salih. Oh poor guy. He was in so denial from the start to the end 🥺 Amazing acting by Erkan 😭 how he felt alone, ganged up by his brothers and wife... how he relentlessly looked for K cos of the last memory of Selim 🥺 him dropping his guns in defeat after Yamac scolded them. I hated the raise hand part. Salih would never do that because of how he saw Mihirban suffer. I'll ignore this part 🤡

Sultan didn't love Selim didn't she... she cried more for Emmi than Selim 🤡 Selim who just wanted to be loved

I liked to see Erkan's acting but Vartolu was just too blind to be in denail to this extent 😆He even believed Akif's words about Yamac. That's so dumb

Originally posted by: music_girl

Ferhat, the saviour when Yamac was giving up and Efsun didn't want him to give up. I like how Yamac listens to what she has to say 👏 Separations and tortures have made them value eo so much. Also that awkward Cumali-Efsun scene 🤣 Damla trying to break the ice. Yamac saying he would never give up on Salih ❤️

I did not get what that breakfast scene meant. Like amca is not a Kocavali?🤔 Efsun even taunted Cumali and Yamac got so angry

Originally posted by: music_girl

Last scene from the video to the forest was amazing. Brilliant. Salih watching the video and realising he was played for 3 years, 3 years of sacrifice in vain, 3 people dead. Yamac taunting the Cukur people and playing the video again 😆 Straight savage 😆 Salih connecting the dots with the car and his reaction... till they reached the forest and he was still in denial.. where is Karaca, she is not here especially when digging the soil 🥺 Lastly both brothers reactions, guilt, pain, helplessness they couldn't protect their dead brother's daughter 👍🏼 Amazing performance 👍🏼

They are yet to find Celo buried next to Karaca. Another blow. The show has went totally dark with this digging and hand thing. It will be more dark from now. They have to announce these deaths to the family 💔 I think now the Kocos will be unstoppable and unstable in their anger. But Amca still has the upper hand...

They kept the best for the last. Vartolu first acted as if he doesn't understand what's going on and hence, Yamac played it again

Yamac will notice Celasun is next to Karaca as Meke received the message from Celasun saying "Karaca is with me".

That hand and digging part was 😭

Originally posted by: music_girl

Upcoming deaths Murtaza, Ayse and Nedim. I don't want M&A to go. They could be useful. Meke also. We need more people and GH is on a spree 💔 Nedim finally 😆 amca will use Kulkans torture methods on Y. I think Amca might use the children 🤔 I hope not... hopefully these Kocos learn from all their enemies...

Kulkan's video had 2 parts, 1st Yamac and 2nd Efsun. Seems like the whole new Cukur was built with Efsun's money 😆 Baykal is always a key element 😆 I hope everything from S1 is connected like why would a successful man like Baykal be after Cukur? Who were the other enemies sent? Under whom Baykal worked?

I missed the 2 baby girls in this episode.

I missed the babies too but looks like they did not want to interrupt Yamac-Efsun's convo 😆

I don't want Ayse to di*e🥺

I am excited to watch now since amca is out of Cukur and will show his true self now.

Originally posted by: roni_berna

I used to find Sena hiding too many things in the beginning which is why I knew she would di*e but because I read a spoiler, I knew which episode she would di*e but still cried for her end. It was too cruel. to make a person get desperate for a breath and struggle till their last breath is terrible to watch. I don't know what the writers thought of even while writing such a crue*l deat*h for her.

Damla suited the Kocavalis but I till now never see her involvement as such. She used to participate earlier in the meeting of Kocavali bros but then they reduced her to making soup.

There are times I don't agree with Yamac as when he yelled at Sultan in S3 and then told Karaca that she'll not have a family if she chose Azer. He should have explained the reasons better. Also, him not telling the family about Efsun before bringing her in the house created a chaos after that.

Never knew Yamac even said anything to E when he met her and read it on Twitter . I can't imagine that after watching the show last year for 3 months, I did not know so much that actually was shown. Also, Emrah-Yamac's scene was cut wherein he acknowledged to have known Sena was his half-sister and he had feelings for her.

I wonder what's the secret in the letter (if there is any ) and what relation has Meliha have with Cumali I wanted Akin's secret to be out months back but they aren't interested in that too. Wonder why they introduced Seher too but whatever, they have too many strange plots that were added to add more confusion

I generally don't like men moving on so easily after the female's deat*h like Feriha but Yamac's relationship with Efsun was completely different and after too many episodes. I don't think he wanted Nehir ever or had a relationship with her and hence, don't consider him moving on. He just wanted a friend, not a lover. I couldn't understand Emir moving on when Feriha die*d as he turned out to be a different person who wanted to take revenge by taking advantage of the enemy's sister. It was really a bad thing to show as Emir wasn't so cru*el. I never liked Gunes too as they made her a copy of Feriha but never hated her or said anything bad about her as Emir was to be blamed for it.

Sena's death was so cruel and tragic. Gasping for breathe, realising he won't be able to save her, saying goodbye and reassuring him 💔 His despair, desperation It was the turning point of the show, innocents will die and they won't be able to do anything about it.

Seher was introduced to show the plight of women who are abondoned. It's the writer's way of awareness but at the same time we all know what happens to the women in the show. Since we are already talking on women of the show, I feel they are mostly ignored compared to the wonderful Koco brothers and men of Cukur.

Saadet of S1 ❤️ She had amazing scenes, quite memorable. The scene where Salih hides behind the curtain and she talks to him, the emotions 😭, the mural scenes, where she connects the dot who Vartolu actually is 👍🏼, where she goes to his house and talks to him and says there is no turning back from what you've done, where she begs him to choose her and forget revenge and in S4 where she is the only one to apologise to Yamac after Selim's death, when she begs Yamac to get away from Amca

Sena for me, her best scenes are when she asks Vartolu his gun and tells him to go inside 😆, helps Aksin and Karaca, talks to the women of the Kocos, her scenes with Aksin, tells Selim to do something instead of nothing and the drowning scene. Memorable scene definitely the drowning scene, I think the actor's best scene.

Sultan might be Satan but she is one powerful actor 😆 liked her when she goes to look for Karaca admist the shooting in S1 where Vartolu saves her 😆 when she cries in Yamac's arms after Selim's death, 😆 I don't remember more 😆 her scene with Meliha where she puts her hand forward for her to kiss

Ayse's best scenes 😆 S1 when she ki*lls the man Saadet was going to marry, she and Selim become accomplices 😆, Selim telling her you are my only best friend, S4 where she screams at Sultan for putting Karaca in that state, tells Akin we are not part of this family, tricks Murtaza to get the address for Yamac, recently the dream scene with Karaca and I can't wait for Irem's performace in the new episode 💔

Aksin's best scenes are definitely S2. That scene with Celo and the mirror 'I was your Ak kiz', the scene with Cumali 😭😭, with Medet when she is not in a good mental state 'cooking', after Sena's death her conversation with Celo, her scene where Sultan says it's going to be okay, her scene with Yucel when he asks her if she lost loved ones and she replies 'cok' 💔💔😭

Karaca definitely at the end of S2 with Akin, in start of S3 plotting against Akin, when Azer kidnaps her, in S4 when she shoots Azer and covers him so he doesn't get cold, when she walks on the street of the Mahalle with her bloodstain wedding dress, at the graveyard, when she returns Sultan's gu*n, her trauma after killing Azer, when she saw Kulkan and Amca, finding Celo's grave, confronting Amca till she got choked 💔

Damla, they did her dirty 🤔 by making her only in the kitchen in the middle of S3. In S2 when she saves Cumali, all DamCum shooting scenes , when she asks Cumali to talk to her like a human being S2E24 maybe, when she saves Cumali-Salih-Medet 😆, when her father dies, rooftop scene with Cumali in S3, when she has her miscarriage 💔 all scenes that follow afterwards

Never watched Feriha. 😊 About Yamac, I so wished Nehir was his imagination. That would have been superb, something never seen... too bad the writer wanted an awkward love triangle since Celo-Karaca-Aksin 😆 Nehir wanted to be loved by Yamac, Yamac wanted to be loved unconditionally like he loved others. Nehir loved Yamac but not the way he wanted, she wanted him to love her, he considered her a friend, platonic and realised he was only using her.

EfYam scenes are actually very detailed since the beginning. In their first fairytale scene, the music and Efsun's voice - it was something never seen in Cukur, balcony scene where first he puts the gun on her head but when she points her gun on his heart, he lowers his. His expressions changing when she starts talking and shows how small her hands are, his impressed look when she angrily says he kill*ed Baykal 😆 him burning her photo 😆 *at that point I knew he won't hurt her*, when she calls him saying 'you are really alive'😆 and his replies, I only got the hint they might be a couple in S3E10 where she tells her mother's and Baykal's story and when he is already sleeping but when she says her name, he touches the hand - also because of the new soundtrack 😆😆 but 50% confirmed when he stole her gold and she goes screaming at him and warning him about Cagatay but the dumbass was too happy he managed to rile her up 🤡

I normally do not like white characters unless they have a good arc, have shown range from E1 up to final, in Cukur Yamac and Saadet are exceptions otherwise I love all grey characters - Cumali, Efsun, Vartolu, Akin... except Sultan 😆

Originally posted by: roni_berna

I loved the episode

Just like you said too there were too many fbs but it was still good. They actually showed everything in the trailer that we knew what will happen but they have been doing it since 4-5 episodes and their taglines are just annoying. Why reveal who's going to di*e? 😆

I wonder why was Sultan crying so much. She did not cry so much for Idris and Selim too ...She never even spoke to Emmi for years and never cared he was missing with Alico then why 🤣

I cried when that man kept running on the streets screaming his name 😭Then Yamac picking up his body was also too painful

Cumali is waiting with fire within him to attack Salih Yamac was just too angry and burst out on Vartolu but Vartolu did deserve it. He blamed everyone but amca. Amca is in Afghanistan was the best line If Vartolu is told that Saadet ran away with Nedim by amca, he'll believe that too

Efsun has returned to herself and understands how much Yamac's family means to him. Glad, she's understanding that. She got screenspace for so much time that I was shocked She knows now how amca got her money so she should work to get it back and by new clothes

I cannot see Ayse's state. She just breaks me. Loved her since first season and though she never showed affection for her kids, she did love them. I won't be able to bear the next episode when she sees her daughter's bod*y 😭

Murtaza is just too selfish. Found him foolish earlier but now he just doesn't care about anybody which is weird after he showed affection for Ayse and now keeps cheating on her 🤔

I so want Akin to be back to his original self and ki*ll Nedim and amca as more than Vartolu, he deserves to do it. Was shocked they did not show him finding the bod*y in the end.

I love Burak's acting. He's too natural

Loved Saadet so much Her crying for her and getting scared when she found the bull*et shell was so painful to watch.😭 I actually loved how she confronted Vartolu but his reaction made me even more angr*y. He doesn't believe that amca can kil*l anyone just because he knows him for 3 years? His awakening took too long and we already lost 3 lives 😭

I love how Cumali has changed for the better and that scene with Damla. Was shocked to see Cumali asking Vartolu if he was fine

I liked to see Erkan's acting but Vartolu was just too blind to be in denail to this extent 😆He even believed Akif's words about Yamac. That's so dumb

I did not get what that breakfast scene meant. Like amca is not a Kocavali?🤔 Efsun even taunted Cumali and Yamac got so angry

They kept the best for the last. Vartolu first acted as if he doesn't understand what's going on and hence, Yamac played it again

Yamac will notice Celasun is next to Karaca as Meke received the message from Celasun saying "Karaca is with me".

That hand and digging part was 😭

I missed the babies too but looks like they did not want to interrupt Yamac-Efsun's convo 😆

I don't want Ayse to di*e🥺

I am excited to watch now since amca is out of Cukur and will show his true self now.

It was the best episode of S4. But was it worth for being the last 4? I don't think so. They spoiled everything in the trailer and the pictures, while watching I knew which scenes would follow. Maybe next time don't spoil it so much 😡 it's a fantastic show despite it's many shortcomings, promote the last 3 episodes rightly.

@red Breakfast scene was to show that Amca can order an attack from wherever he is, Yamac was tired and had almost given up, Cumali was a little bit annoyed that Y was sitting idle, when Efsun talks Y listens. 😆 they tried to make it some sort of comedy

Coming to episode 36, amazing performances 👍🏼 if only GH didn't waste so much time with EfYam pain and tragedy, VarYam walking on streets of Cukur, Cumali depressed... could have got more amazing episodes like this.

Opening scene was brilliant. Fantastic performance by the casts; Y, Salih and his hands covered with dirt, Akin and his attack, Cumali, Meke, Metin, Medet... chills 👏👏👏 when Akin discovered Azer's book 💔 the Celo-Meke-Karaca flashback 💔 Celo's mom is still alive 🥺

Irem/Ayse ❤️ was also fantastic. Walking with the bloodied wedding dress 🥺, parallel to Karaja 👏 her breakdown, her trauma 😭 'my daughter is cold', even when she screamed at C and A, it was understandable, she realised it later and came to Yamac's house aka the hostel 😆

Cumali and his silent breakdown I'm glad Cumali got more scenes than last episode. The Cukur lads needed that reprimand - Kocos die for them, atleast be worth it... why on earth did C think he will be able to handle Akin? 😆 and he says 'sick psychopath' reminds me of Akin's dialogue 'I'm crazier than Cumali' 😆 him making 'space' for Nedim in the car 😆 so done with Yamac and his style 😆 Salih-Cumali ❤️ finally after 4 seasons

Saadet ❤️ always standing up for Salih. She was right and C knew it. I really liked her in this scene.

Akin was so subdued. The car scene with the decomposing body 💔 Yasmine was there for Akin was so sweet even though she is unwell...

Damla ❤️ understood the situation so well, impulsive and stubborn C. It's always a treat to see DamCum working together the aerial shot of the sign was 👏I am taking what she said to E as a spoiler 😆

Nedim was too loyal, more than the Cukur boys atleast the Cukur boys are on the right track now. I thought Nedim might take one of the Kocos with them as he die, like has an explosive or something, this show made me paranoid 😆

Medet had a closure. Is he dying soon? 🤔

Salih 💔💔 Liked all his scenes, his dialogues especially at the lake 🥺. Wasted too much time on flashback, could have shown snippets only 🤪 Yamac totally repeated E's words' 'we are human'. Salih's helplessness, guilt ...💔🥺 I missed VarYam so much 🤣 that hair pulling, hand bitting 🤣🤣 rolling on the grass 🤣 'do you want children' and Y protected his goods 🤣 I will gladly take this as a spoiler, please

Yamac and his forgiving heart ❤️ He knows his family gave up on him too easily 🥺🥺 what he said to Salih and C was so sad 🥺 there was a slight parallel with S3E19 but since the writer wasted so much time, he had to quickly go through these scenes... His hopelessness when he cried on the roof before E, his face during the funeral 😭 how much pain will he endure? Yeter😭

The spoilers had said 4 people would die but only Nedim did. More people dying in next epiosde? I am tired of funerals 🤔 What's with Murtaze? Did he like Ayse then why he cheated? Him being nervous around Yamac🤪

Sultan... good performance by Perihan 👍🏼 I liked how she handled Ayse, it was harsh but that's how Koco people move forward after every loss. She put her coat on the grave, parallel to Salih putting his on Selim's 😭 I simply love a Sultan with her head bowed 😆😈😎 too much actually finally someone could do it to the mighty Sultan 😆 why did they waste time with flashbacks when the Efsun-Sultan scene needed more time 😡 only EfYam has to pay for their sins (in this case Y for loving E) but Sultan goes scott free just like Saint Idris 😡🤡🤡 She will never know Masal was held captive for 3 years. I hate how this writer basically makes everyone worship Idris and Sultan 🤪 Stop it, they aren't saints, they were toxic parents. I don't like the way it was done, but we have no time🤡 so idc

Efsun 😆 the girl was so lost with all these funerals and dysfunctional family, she never had to do such things before... Ah Yamac 😆 I knew she would let Sultan in. Yamac saw Sultan and E in the kitchen together 😆 Sultan doesn't really know how to face Efsun... Regarding Efsun's money - she lost all of it according to Kulkan, the money has been spent on new Cukur. Damla and Saadet nervous when Sultan came 😆 I love it 😆I need Efyam closure before any of them or both of them die. 🤡

So I saw a whole debate on twitter on this topic

Efsun has seen Yamac broken, in despair, crying, learnt he was tortured, had a memory loss but still came for her, even when she was so broken, he didn't give up. She has no emotional connection to his family, but it was evident that she would let Sultan in and eventually forgive her *she hasn't yet* Yamac hasn't also ask Sultan to come to live with them without her permission She wants Yamac to feel stronger in this despair, so she asked Damla to bring Masal to her. Understandable, she trusts Damla with Masal, she did look after her child. I want more screen time for E. 😕 Now...

Will Amca attack again so soon? Will Damla and Masal get kidnapped? The baby was held captive for 3 years enough already. Why no Koco men was at the house or the house had no protection? 😡 Can they stop repeating the same mistakes again and again 🤡 If Masal gets kidnapped, Y will go crazy but it's E that I'm afraid, she will burn everything down Stop using her child like that. 😭😭 No kidnapping please. I haven't seen any spoilers yet. I missed Masal and Asiye. 😔

Or will Cukur breathe for some days before Amca attacks again? Some days of peace? This show is so traumatising but addictive at the same time.

btw Yamac didn't want to go in because of the cameras but had to put his music so loud, warned Amca and he got time to get in the helicopter 🤪🤪 why didn't they drive on the grass... instead of walking? It was a great shot though 😆 anyway, Amca already knew it was a trap when he saw N.

Glad to have the brothers back

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I need a new dizi maybe something joyful, fun and free but no dragging 😃 any reccomendation? Cukur is so exhausting at times.

Originally posted by: music_girl

It was the best episode of S4. But was it worth for being the last 4? I don't think so. They spoiled everything in the trailer and the pictures, while watching I knew which scenes would follow. Maybe next time don't spoil it so much 😡 it's a fantastic show despite it's many shortcomings, promote the last 3 episodes rightly.

@red Breakfast scene was to show that Amca can order an attack from wherever he is, Yamac was tired and had almost given up, Cumali was a little bit annoyed that Y was sitting idle, when Efsun talks Y listens. 😆 they tried to make it some sort of comedy

The channel should stop giving out too many spoilers in the trailers and pictures as now only 3 episodes are left and we shouldn't know which characters are dy*ing and how.

I love the show too despite its shortcomings as it hasn't been boring for me. There's always something happening.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Coming to episode 36, amazing performances 👍🏼 if only GH didn't waste so much time with EfYam pain and tragedy, VarYam walking on streets of Cukur, Cumali depressed... could have got more amazing episodes like this.

Opening scene was brilliant. Fantastic performance by the casts; Y, Salih and his hands covered with dirt, Akin and his attack, Cumali, Meke, Metin, Medet... chills 👏👏👏 when Akin discovered Azer's book 💔 the Celo-Meke-Karaca flashback 💔 Celo's mom is still alive 🥺

Irem/Ayse ❤️ was also fantastic. Walking with the bloodied wedding dress 🥺, parallel to Karaja 👏 her breakdown, her trauma 😭 'my daughter is cold', even when she screamed at C and A, it was understandable, she realised it later and came to Yamac's house aka the hostel 😆

Loved episode 36. I agree that many episodes have been wasted and we could have got so much like we did this episode.

All the actors were amazing. I cried a lot for Ayse and Irem was fab. Even Meke, after a long time, managed to break my heart by remembering Celasun's tattoo.

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Cumali and his silent breakdown I'm glad Cumali got more scenes than last episode. The Cukur lads needed that reprimand - Kocos die for them, atleast be worth it... why on earth did C think he will be able to handle Akin? 😆 and he says 'sick psychopath' reminds me of Akin's dialogue 'I'm crazier than Cumali' 😆 him making 'space' for Nedim in the car 😆 so done with Yamac and his style 😆 Salih-Cumali ❤️ finally after 4 seasons

Cumali's all scenes were good and happy that he did not waste time thinking about forgiving Salih or not. He did it in 2 mins

Hate the Cukur traitors but like them when they all combine. Individually, I like none. Especially not that Ecevit.

Wasn't much into the bros meeting as the only one good is Yamac because of whom they are still a family else they would have kil*led each other long back

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Saadet ❤️ always standing up for Salih. She was right and C knew it. I really liked her in this scene.

Akin was so subdued. The car scene with the decomposing body 💔 Yasmine was there for Akin was so sweet even though she is unwell...

Damla ❤️ understood the situation so well, impulsive and stubborn C. It's always a treat to see DamCum working together the aerial shot of the sign was 👏I am taking what she said to E as a spoiler 😆

Nedim was too loyal, more than the Cukur boys atleast the Cukur boys are on the right track now. I thought Nedim might take one of the Kocos with them as he die, like has an explosive or something, this show made me paranoid 😆

Saadet was right but she doesn't like anyone else blaming her husband as only she can do so Still love her for what she is

Damla was full on

I don't take anything as a spoiler these days as all what I've thought before turned out to be something else only

Nedim was like amca's son and people who hate him more say he's his lover 🤣

Vartolu was so bored of his speech that he directly sho*t him

Originally posted by: music_girl

Medet had a closure. Is he dying soon? 🤔

Salih 💔💔 Liked all his scenes, his dialogues especially at the lake 🥺. Wasted too much time on flashback, could have shown snippets only 🤪 Yamac totally repeated E's words' 'we are human'. Salih's helplessness, guilt ...💔🥺 I missed VarYam so much 🤣 that hair pulling, hand bitting 🤣🤣 rolling on the grass 🤣 'do you want children' and Y protected his goods 🤣 I will gladly take this as a spoiler, please

I don't know if Medet will di*e as all can di*e now

VarYam's fight was enjoyable but Vartolu did scare me with that look of his I remembered Leo's movie "The Revenant" as he looked the same after a day

Yamac got so scared that he won't have kids anymore

Originally posted by: music_girl

Yamac and his forgiving heart ❤️ He knows his family gave up on him too easily 🥺🥺 what he said to Salih and C was so sad 🥺 there was a slight parallel with S3E19 but since the writer wasted so much time, he had to quickly go through these scenes... His hopelessness when he cried on the roof before E, his face during the funeral 😭 how much pain will he endure? Yeter😭

Yamac is showing he's strong enough to deal with the pain but he'll break soon. He cannot bear so much afterall.

Originally posted by: music_girl

The spoilers had said 4 people would die but only Nedim did. More people dying in next epiosde? I am tired of funerals 🤔 What's with Murtaze? Did he like Ayse then why he cheated? Him being nervous around Yamac🤪

Murtaza did like Ayse but he could never be loyal. I did not like the statement of Ayse that mothers have no right to di*e too. She had a right to live her life but the writers want Kocavali's DILs to stay loyal to their husbands even after their deat*h.

I don't think the spoilers even know anything now 😆

Originally posted by: music_girl

Sultan... good performance by Perihan 👍🏼 I liked how she handled Ayse, it was harsh but that's how Koco people move forward after every loss. She put her coat on the grave, parallel to Salih putting his on Selim's 😭 I simply love a Sultan with her head bowed 😆😈😎 too much actually finally someone could do it to the mighty Sultan 😆 why did they waste time with flashbacks when the Efsun-Sultan scene needed more time 😡 only EfYam has to pay for their sins (in this case Y for loving E) but Sultan goes scott free just like Saint Idris 😡🤡🤡 She will never know Masal was held captive for 3 years. I hate how this writer basically makes everyone worship Idris and Sultan 🤪 Stop it, they aren't saints, they were toxic parents. I don't like the way it was done, but we have no time🤡 so idc

Love Perihan ❤️

Sultan-Efsun's scene was rushed. I expected more. I feel Sultan's suffering is by her watching how he family collapses and her being always in misery. The writer does try to make viewers understand her and to some extent I do but condone her actions too.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Efsun 😆 the girl was so lost with all these funerals and dysfunctional family, she never had to do such things before... Ah Yamac 😆 I knew she would let Sultan in. Yamac saw Sultan and E in the kitchen together 😆 Sultan doesn't really know how to face Efsun... Regarding Efsun's money - she lost all of it according to Kulkan, the money has been spent on new Cukur. Damla and Saadet nervous when Sultan came 😆 I love it 😆I need Efyam closure before any of them or both of them die. 🤡

Efsun was so lost and alone. Nobody bothered to come down as all were fed up with so many funerals 🥺

Now we may get a peaceful scene of the family but knowing the writers, it may be of 1-2 minutes

Originally posted by: music_girl

So I saw a whole debate on twitter on this topic

Efsun has seen Yamac broken, in despair, crying, learnt he was tortured, had a memory loss but still came for her, even when she was so broken, he didn't give up. She has no emotional connection to his family, but it was evident that she would let Sultan in and eventually forgive her *she hasn't yet* Yamac hasn't also ask Sultan to come to live with them without her permission She wants Yamac to feel stronger in this despair, so she asked Damla to bring Masal to her. Understandable, she trusts Damla with Masal, she did look after her child. I want more screen time for E. 😕 Now...

I like it that Yamac never bothered to ask Sultan to stay with them. He keeps saying family need to be together but somehow still hasn't accepted Sultan completely. I'm liking that he isn't forcing Efsun to do what he does but is giving her time.

Originally posted by: music_girl

Will Amca attack again so soon? Will Damla and Masal get kidnapped? The baby was held captive for 3 years enough already. Why no Koco men was at the house or the house had no protection? 😡 Can they stop repeating the same mistakes again and again 🤡 If Masal gets kidnapped, Y will go crazy but it's E that I'm afraid, she will burn everything down Stop using her child like that. 😭😭 No kidnapping please. I haven't seen any spoilers yet. I missed Masal and Asiye. 😔

Or will Cukur breathe for some days before Amca attacks again? Some days of peace? This show is so traumatising but addictive at the same time.

Amca will attack soon and the kids may be in danger. As it's nearing its end, we can expect the worse 😭

Originally posted by: music_girl

btw Yamac didn't want to go in because of the cameras but had to put his music so loud, warned Amca and he got time to get in the helicopter 🤪🤪 why didn't they drive on the grass... instead of walking? It was a great shot though 😆 anyway, Amca already knew it was a trap when he saw N.

Glad to have the brothers back

There cannot be Cukur if there are no such illogical scenes 🤣

If they had to drive on the grass, how could the writers show off with those cukur men walking in style? 🤣

Originally posted by: music_girl

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I need a new dizi maybe something joyful, fun and free but no dragging 😃 any reccomendation? Cukur is so exhausting at times.

I am watching Vincenzo which is a mafia based Korean show. It's too good and has only 20 episodes of less than 1.5 hours. It's comic as well as scary as it has a lot of murd*ers.