Pandya Store|Episode Discussion Thread #4 - Page 86

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Yeah, or changing Raavi to suit Shiva better!! There is a lot of scope for ShiVi and why does he have to feel inferior.

2ndly, they chose an extremely sexy and buff actor, Kanwar, for the role of Shiva.

I'm not trying to be rude but Shiva in other versions weren't this good looking or confident. Correct me if my thinking is going somewhere else.

Another thing, why would Mami's words bother Shiva now. Mama sided with him, everyone who matters did. He doesn't care for Mami and never would as he clearly stated he wasn't going to forgive her live everyone else.

I could be grasping at straws here!!

If at all a breakdown happens I don't think it would be totally Raavi causing it.. she would not affect him to this extent. She would probably be a part/the cause of it. I think it would be something related to his family too.. maybe one of his family members would blurt out something they should not have or something that might trigger shiva in a wrong way

i really hope they deviate from the original and skip shiva's breakdown in this version though!

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Originally posted by: Namita-M

Yeah, or changing Raavi to suit Shiva better!! There is a lot of scope for ShiVi and why does he have to feel inferior.

2ndly, they chose an extremely sexy and buff actor, Kanwar, for the role of Shiva.

I'm not trying to be rude but Shiva in other versions weren't this good looking or confident. Correct me if my thinking is going somewhere else.

Another thing, why would Mami's words bother Shiva now. Mama sided with him, everyone who matters did. He doesn't care for Mami and never would as he clearly stated he wasn't going to forgive her live everyone else.

I could be grasping at straws here!!

Yep I agree! Which is why a few days back I asked about the breakdown. I was a bit confused as to where it was coming from. I think with the changes in both Shiva and Raavi, there is a strong chance the breakdown won’t happen or Raavi might be the one going through a turmoil down the line. Not a breakdown but a strong realization that her and Dev were never meant to be. I honestly don’t think Shiva is insecure (in this version he’s hot and educated). They already went through his education track before the leap. Maami doesn’t affect him much either. The most I see is an emotional moment where Raavi hurts him and he talks about his feelings. But it’s ITV, so anything is possible.

I haven’t seen the other versions but Shiva is def hot and confident in this one. So I def get what you mean there ;)

Originally posted by: Peanutbolt

I don’t want any breakdown of Shiva, rather want him to be comfortable in his shoes and not really bothered by what Mami/anyone thinks and is secure in himself..I mean he knows why he left his studies/why he didn’t want to, I don’t want him to be apologetic about it...i like this care for not shiva than an insecure one. Let Raavi accept him as he is than showing some breakdown and her sympathising with it..

Yes!! I don't want sympathy to come into play! Shiva doesn't need sympathy. His attitude towards life is if you want to get to know me you will. If you can't understand me then you don't belong with me.

Raavi belongs with him, she just needs to see him in a different light. Maybe whatever Dhara has planned will shake a memory loose in her from their childhood that had everything to do with Shiva!!

Originally posted by: Namita-M

Yes!! I don't want sympathy to come into play! Shiva doesn't need sympathy. His attitude towards life is if you want to get to know me you will. If you can't understand me then you don't belong with me.

Raavi belongs with him, she just needs to see him in a different light. Maybe whatever Dhara has planned will shake a memory loose in her from their childhood that had everything to do with Shiva!!

I would love if they show this ❤️

Originally posted by: Raingoddess

Yep I agree! Which is why a few days back I asked about the breakdown. I think with the changes in both Shiva and Raavi, there is a strong chance the breakdown won’t happen or Raavi might be the one going through a turmoil down the line. Not a breakdown but a strong realization that her and Dev were never meant to be. I honestly don’t think Shiva is insecure (in this versions he’s hot and educated). They already went through his education track before the leap. Maami doesn’t affect him much either. The most I see is an emotional moment where Raavi hurts him and he talks about his feelings. But it’s ITV, so anything is possible.

I don't know if the other versions ever explored Raavi finally realizing she was never in love with Dev!!

Anyone who's watched the other versions, could you confirm this for me? Does Raavi ever realize it.

I feel, in this version she might.

Originally posted by: GrilledCheese

I hope it happens this way!

yeah, i think the original kathir character sketch was different, he wasn’t this fiesty like shiva, Only similarity i am seeing between them both is that both of them haven’t completed their studies and are not polished/sophisticated...

also Shiva didn’t want to study, he wasn’t interested in studying but was more inclined to go to shop and help Gaumbi. He wasn’t forced to give up his studies.So idk why he would feel bad about it. Rather I don’t want him to feel bad about it. It would be refreshing to see him secure about his life and raavi accepting him the way he is

Also doubt mami will get under Shiva’s skin, she always taunted him jaahil/gawaar and other stuff and shiva gives 200% back. This time also i want him to give it back.

Only place I see Shiva being insecure is about Raavi’s feelings for dev once he realises his feelings for Raavi, until then I doubt he’ll be really bothered.

I do hope the makers alter the storyline and be unique than copy pasting from original

Originally posted by: Namita-M

I honestly don't know if there will ever be breakdown. Shiva isn't the kind of character.

I feel something might happen to his family to have this breakdown. Who knows, Rishita might be the one responsible for it.

They have shown the characters differently from what I gather from you all who watched the regional versions.

Do we really think it will be a personal issue breakdown or something happening to Dhara or Gaumbi or Suman that causes him to break down because he's helpless!!

So, in terms of similarities, this is what I've noticed:

Raavi and Mulla both were angry at their husbands. In some ways, you could even say it was an irrational form of anger that they showed only to their spouse and to no one else. Both of them used words such as "uneducated, dirty, uncouth" to describe their spouses, and their spouses reacted negatively hearing these words. They also easily forgave the Dhara character.

In terms of differences, this is what I've noticed:

Kathir is a silent angry while Shiva is a lot more expressive and forthcoming with his anger. Both of them would do anything for their families, but Shiva appears to have a touch of innocence to him (he's probably younger than Kathir as he is only 21-23 max). Kathir always seemed mature to me, far more mature for his age even. But Shiva always appeared like a wandering boy trying to hold onto what he knew best (which in this case is his family). Raavi is a lot more bubbly/airheaded of a character while Mulla was a little bit rougher on the edges in terms of personality.

My thoughts of the possible breakdown:

I personally don't think it's coming. The past few episodes have been a lot of hot/cold/hot/cold. Some days the tension is high, and some days, it seems like ShiVi is back to business as usual. Also, I agree with many of the points you all have made prior, why would Shiva break down if Maami has been taunting him with those things all along? It wouldn't be new for him to hear, especially now.

In the original, it wasn't Maami's words. It was Raavi's words that caused the breakdown. He felt suffocated in a marriage where his wife didn't even see him as a person (kept calling him "uneducated, dirty, uncouth"). Now, in this version, Raavi's anger seems to be fluctuating. In some ways, it seems inconsistent (when I compare her to Mulla), and in some ways it seems totally consistent (especially when looking at her character separate from Mulla). Raavi in this version seems way to bubbly and airheaded to really cause enough damage for a breakdown...

Another argument against the breakdown is that Shiva is pretty upcoming about his anger. He lets out his anger in short bursts, so he never really has the chance/time to burst. Those names do seem to be affecting him, but I also think his actions in later scenes pretty much are a way for him to release his anger. So it would be awkward if he just up and up became affected by someone's words.

What could cause the turning point in ShiVi's relationship?

I'm thinking more and more that ShiVi will be stuck in some sort of dangerous position (maybe get stranded alone while coming back to Somnath), and in that trip, Raavi and Shiva fight. Raavi refuses to listen to Shiva, and that is when in frustration, he reveals the whole truth in anger/bitterness.

But, I guess this bonfire + Maami's arrival will give us more insight on what's to come.

Originally posted by: Peanutbolt

yeah, i think the original kathir character sketch was different, he wasn’t this fiesty like shiva, Only similarity i am seeing between them both is that both of them haven’t completed their studies and are not polished/sophisticated...

also Shiva didn’t want to study, he wasn’t interested in studying but was more inclined to go to shop and help Gaumbi. He wasn’t forced to give up his studies.So idk why he would feel bad about it. Rather I don’t want him to feel bad about it. It would be refreshing to see him secure about his life and raavi accepting him the way he is

Also doubt mami will get under Shiva’s skin, she always taunted him jaahil/gawaar and other stuff and shiva gives 200% back. This time also i want him to give it back.

Only place I see Shiva being insecure is about Raavi’s feelings for dev once he realises his feelings for Raavi, until then I doubt he’ll be really bothered.

I do hope the makers alter the storyline and be unique than copy pasting from original

agree.. kathir wasn't as feisty as shiva. he also wasn't this rude to maami (mullai's real mother in the original), he respected her because she was his wife's mother and stayed quiet at her taunts.

shiva isn't like that so a break down doesn't really seem to make sense, hope the makers don't take a 180 degree turn here!

Originally posted by: Namita-M

I don't know if the other versions ever explored Raavi finally realizing she was never in love with Dev!!

Anyone who's watched the other versions, could you confirm this for me? Does Raavi ever realize it.

I feel, in this version she might.

In the Telugu version, I think she ends up eventually saying she was more in love with the idea of marrying a well-educated guy with a white-collar job (Dev doesn't spend time in the store in this version) than really marrying Dev. She also admits that her goal, really, was to get a loving husband (which she eventually does when Shiva and her fall in love).

As for Raavi, considering the extensive childhood relationship she has with Shiva (I love the idea of exploring it further), I have a feeling she will come to comment on the fact of never loving Dev. Just loving the idea of becoming a Pandya bahu (and Dev was the only one who could make it true as he was "nice" to her)