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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranisree

I really like how people are able to defend Malini a very weak character. Malini Kuch Bhi kare to sahi aur a imlie Kuch Bhi kare to galat . If mlie tries to jus put a sindoor which is her right until Adi divorce her it's romancing with her sister husband when she doesn't know who her father is how would she knwo about her sister. Either people here blindly follow or sympathize Malini because she keeps crying all the time and gaining sympathy. Imlie could have done that long back but she didn't because she is strong she choose to fight and be happy and let go. Because Imlie is strong people don't sympathize and people sympathize with a weak character like Malini. If Malini would have taken the step after hearing all the truth she would have gained little sympathy.just few weeks of suffering and decide to end her life ditching her 30 year relationship with her parents. I would never sympathize or support a character like Malini who wants to keep someone by hook or crook it respective whether he loves her not. She lost all self respect when she begged for ILU thing. What a role model.

I also don’t like the comparisons people do of both characters and the way all of malini’s actions are termed correct at various places. But the ilu thing was just sad, she was at a breaking point and looking at it from her pov, being in such a fragile state of mind, she was probably trying to assure herself maybe aditya still loves her or trying to hear it the last time. Honestly the whole situation is just sad, and I don’t want to compare both characters because looking at their journeys and characterisations it’s pretty obvious why both are the way they are, where one gets the strength from and the other nothing but hopelessness. If Malini had any intention of wanting to survive this and get aditya from this it would have been different, she’s not wanting to survive this. She has completely lost herself. Her actions are wrong but the way her character is, it’s pretty easy to see where it comes from. I am not sympathetic just sad for all her, adi and imlie but I also don’t think it was done out of evil intentions either, at least not intentionally. Abhi toh episodes out bhi nahi huye baaki I really think it’s gonna go a different way than we are thinking. I am sure she’ll leave him or he’ll tell her the truth and they’ll separate. This is just a very bizarre reaction from her but actually according to her characterisation you can see where it comes from. Very hard to see something like this though.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranisree

I really like how people are able to defend Malini a very weak character. Malini Kuch Bhi kare to sahi aur a imlie Kuch Bhi kare to galat . If mlie tries to jus put a sindoor which is her right until Adi divorce her it's romancing with her sister husband when she doesn't know who her father is how would she knwo about her sister. Either people here blindly follow or sympathize Malini because she keeps crying all the time and gaining sympathy. Imlie could have done that long back but she didn't because she is strong she choose to fight and be happy and let go. Because Imlie is strong people don't sympathize and people sympathize with a weak character like Malini. If Malini would have taken the step after hearing all the truth she would have gained little sympathy.just few weeks of suffering and decide to end her life ditching her 30 year relationship with her parents. I would never sympathize or support a character like Malini who wants to keep someone by hook or crook it respective whether he loves her not. She lost all self respect when she begged for ILU thing. What a role model.

Correct she doesnt know..believe me she will distance herself when she knows it and won't be able to carry this burden. When she had already given her sindoor during sindoor daan in marriage ceremony along with her husband why now suddenly this sindoor jaap. She herself have it up...and it looks so odd putting malini ke husband ke naam ka sindoor while doing didi jaap. If malini is fake to say her sister ..then imlis didi jaap is equally fake.

Who is strong and who is weak is a matter of a debate about the mental status. Till adis confession of love imli was continuously crying if you have forgotten.

She was not begging for it...that was the last confirmation she was making that she has truely lost her husband to someone else. She is not trying to keep him by hook or crook..this dejection and shameless ema has taken a toll on her and her mental state has gone for a toss.

There are real people out there battling depression and suicidal tendencies...it's about mental health. You just can't tell them come on its just this..you can do better. Such people don't need sympathy they need empathy and kindly don't mock this sensitive issue saying coward and weak.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranisree


Right Adi is avoiding EMA with Malini so he feels uncomfortable staying with her in the same room as she is the second wife. Adi romancing his first wife and original wife is not EMA get your facts right. Truth should come out but apke fragile Didi sunne to. Pheli baar faint ho gayi ab to haad ho gayi don't want to say more about sucide as it is a sensitive topic: But she need to first hear out and then she can either divorce Adi or file a case against him for marrying her when he was already married. And stop blaming Imlie for Malini weakness insecurities etc etc.

What Adi was doing with Malini after marrying Imlie is EMA. Adi n Imlie have at max touched each other and hugged once.They have maintained all dignity even though they are legally allowed.

Gun point wedding is illegal although there is a debate how to make it legal. About ema..Aditya was in love with malini this whole time. All of a sudden after marriage with malini he fell in love with imli while imli was working as a house hold help and adi just got bored of his wife.. what will you term this..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: abha981

Correct she doesnt know..believe me she will distance herself when she knows it and won't be able to carry this burden. When she had already given her sindoor during sindoor daan in marriage ceremony along with her husband why now suddenly this sindoor jaap. She herself have it up...and it looks so odd putting malini ke husband ke naam ka sindoor while doing didi jaap. If malini is fake to say her sister ..then imlis didi jaap is equally fake.

Who is strong and who is weak is a matter of a debate about the mental status. Till adis confession of love imli was continuously crying if you have forgotten.

She was not begging for it...that was the last confirmation she was making that she has truely lost her husband to someone else. She is not trying to keep him by hook or crook..this dejection and shameless ema has taken a toll on her and her mental state has gone for a toss.

There are real people out there battling depression and suicidal tendencies...it's about mental health. You just can't tell them come on its just this..you can do better. Such people don't need sympathy they need empathy and kindly don't mock this sensitive issue saying coward and weak.

In that sense, malini also gave her the sindoor ka dabba to put it on whenever she wanted. Then why did she go upset and ruined her whole first day of college over the same dabbi? I am not saying it was out of nowhere, there were obviously reasons for it, there’s many layers and reason for all actions of these three. Similarly, there is for imlie’s too, I already said this aditya being her husband has been her faith since day 1, her sindoor too, she didn’t use to put it on because he didn’t give her any rights over it doesn’t mean she didn’t believe in it, but now she does because he has accepted it and given her all rights. It’s cultural background and upbringing that makes her okay with him living with malini as well, but she’s starting to realise it’s not okay I think. She had started to feel upset seeing them together and accepted it too but the malini and adi fight set it all back she became afraid of losing malini and the tripathis (evident by her daydream) and gave them precedence over her husband. That doesn’t mean she’ll just leave her sindoor, she’ll leave the house but never remove her sindoor, her character has been very clear about aditya remaining her husband forever and the sindoor being her belief. Maybe after this whole track, we will see her making more firm decisions which will move the story forward.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: abha981

Gun point wedding is illegal although there is a debate how to make it legal. About ema..Aditya was in love with malini this whole time. All of a sudden after marriage with malini he fell in love with imli while imli was working as a house hold help and adi just got bored of his wife.. what will you term this..

I am not even going to go here. There’s been plenty of debate on this topic. Guess this is just your pov, we’ve already discussed at length of what aditya felt for malini not being love but comfort in a stable relationship. Also, aditya did not get bored of his wife, that is not his characterisation, he realised he made some bad mistakes by marrying malini when he hadn’t faced his own self about his marriage with imlie. I think the surfacing of his feelings for imlie started around the dil se track it was not abrupt at all. The way you say it, makes it seem like there were only adi mun the first 80 episodes, no there were adi imlie too in subtler ways and in more evident ways, plus their individual struggles as well. But there’s always multiple ways to see a story I guess.. if you want to do a rewatch maybe it’ll be more visible or you can have a fresh perspective? Your choice though.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: abha981

Gun point wedding is illegal although there is a debate how to make it legal. About ema..Aditya was in love with malini this whole time. All of a sudden after marriage with malini he fell in love with imli while imli was working as a house hold help and adi just got bored of his wife.. what will you term this..

Again get your facts checked if any forced marriage not just gunpoint , emotional financial presssure parents pressure is illegal if Adi would have filed a complaint . But he didn't he accepted Imlie as his wife and continued staying in the marriage.He is a reporter he could have easily got out of this marriage.


second Imlie being household help was not Imlies choice it was Adi who didn't give her proper recognition.Malini will never be a wife until Adi divorce Imlie or files a complaint.Malini will always be the other woman legally.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ranisree

Again get your facts checked if any forced marriage not just gunpoint , emotional financial presssure parents pressure is illegal if Adi would have filed a complaint . But he didn't he accepted Imlie as his wife and continued staying in the marriage.He is a reporter he could have easily got out of this marriage.


second Imlie being household help was not Imlies choice it was Adi who didn't give her proper recognition.Malini will never be a wife until Adi divorce Imlie or files a complaint.Malini will always be the other woman legally.

How are you so sure about the legality....we don't know which marriage was registered and which wasn't.thats y i said debatable.

Exactly he is a reporter...a spineless one at that..who chose to destroy three lives. Why didnt he write about the forced marriage stuff because itv and kuch bhi chalta. hai

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: abha981

How are you so sure about the legality....we don't know which marriage was registered and which wasn't.thats y i said debatable.

Exactly he is a reporter...a spineless one at that..who chose to destroy three lives. Why didnt he write about the forced marriage stuff because itv and kuch bhi chalta. hai

On what basis are you calling him spineless... he wanted to die instead to getting into forced marriage. Imlie married him to save his life. He confessed the truth to Malini, but she directly landed in hospital. Out of humanity he let Imlie stay at his house, he stayed away from her and was loyal to Malini. But love just happened and once he learned his truth he is loyal to Imlie. One thing, he always had conscience and stayed true to his heart.

Now tell me how do you deal with fragile being? She falls sick if he stays away for 2 days, reaches ICU when learns truth, leaves house when there is an argument and commits suicide without confirming the truth.

So he would be a strong person if he stays close to Malini though he knows that has Imlie in his heart and live a mechanical life?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: abha981

How are you so sure about the legality....we don't know which marriage was registered and which wasn't.thats y i said debatable.

Exactly he is a reporter...a spineless one at that..who chose to destroy three lives. Why didnt he write about the forced marriage stuff because itv and kuch bhi chalta. hai

Again according to Hindu marraige act tribal marriage are considered legal and not all region require registration. Even if registration required and is not done you will be fined your marriage will not be illegal.

Any kind of forced marraige be it gun point or other forced marraige like parents pressure , financial pressure where one of the party doesn't have consent is illegal and if any party wants to complain have provisions to complain and nullify the marriage. In this case Adi didn't take that route and did rituals again in PD so this marriage can't be nullified as both have accepted it.


So ideally Adi should have done that and then Married Malini. Based on legality Imlie and Adi marriage is valid until one of the. Complain and nullify the marraige.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: deepzz

Thanks TM for making this post and thanks to members who replied here. The way forum was mocking Malini's suicide, I thought I will never get to read honest and genuine discussion on Malini without making fun of her character.

Malini's entire world is crumbling down. It is not a joke when suddenly you don't matter anymore to your partner, when you sense presence of a third person in your marriage. Many can feel this bitter truth when it happens but doesn't want to hear or say it loud because they are afraid to face the truth. Malini's character shows this beautifully.

Her suicide is not for giving any guilt trip rather it is because of her current mental state. She has lost HOPE. We as audience know that she have other ways to live her life to fullest but Malini doesn't know it because she doesn't have clarity at this moment as fear and hurt has clouded her. Someone needs to give her HOPE to live, assurance that no seven year relationship is greater than her life. Anu will be the best person to do it.

Just because Malini is from a wealthy family and didn't have to face severe hardships, doesn't mean we shouldn't even try to understand her condition.


"Malini's entire world is crumbling down." = Such a sad statement this is by itself. Her whole world is Aditya and her marriage. Nothing and no one else exists in her world.


The issue is not that I do not understand her mental condition, the issue is that the whole story is currently existing only around her emotional state. It is you and I who see her as having serious mental issues. But will any of the characters in the show be shown as acknowledging that Malini has serious issues if she decided to commit suicide in her bridal outfit 1 day after leaving her sasural, the decision which was made by her even though the whole family was begging her to stay. She left her sasural because she wanted Aditya to stop her. She did not leave because she was feeling ghootan there. This is manipulation. So 1 day before she decides to commit suicide, she is okay with manipulating people. And let's not forget the sindoor drama she caused. She literally traumatized Imlie with her behavior. She demeaned Imlie to such an extent that Imlie could not find it in herself to feel an ounce of happiness about her first day of college or the award, about her dreams coming true.


Anyways, just that morning she connected some of the dots. But did she think to confront about it. It is obvious the issue in her marriage has been building up for months. So now she is losing it is understandable. But 2 days ago she was planning to fight for it (the temple scene). Then next day, she sees sindoor on Imlie's forehead and completely loses it, decides to take a break and leave the family all in one day. Aditya called her within 24 hours of leaving the house and told her he wanted to speak with her. Did she wait to hear his side of the story. No, she rather kill herself than face a second of the truth.


And just because she is going through pain, all her actions are forgiven. Disrespecting Tripatis, insulting Imlie, leaving house all is okay just because her marriage is breaking apart.


What you have written will obviously want you and me to sympathize with the character but that is not how the character is shown. The character is shown to manipulate, be selfish, and gutless. And all that is still okay if the writers show how serious someone wanting to commit suicide is. If they concentrate on Malini's healing. But if they reward her for her actions by making everyone cater to her wishes, it will be very disappointing.

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