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I can't comment too much upon Suman's character (as I sporadically watched pre-leap episodes (planning on watching it fully once my summer vacation begins)), but I wonder whether she started off like Dev as well. A little naive and innocent. Perhaps Prafulla and losing her husband turned her into who she is today.

Maybe Dev will go through a similar character arc. So far, he hasn't really faced any major problems. Dhara and Gaumbi essentially took care of everything (Shiva meanwhile must've faced something especially with many side characters calling him a "gawar"). So maybe the method in which he navigates balancing his family (the Pandyas vs. Janardhan) will be his redemption arc.

I really do think Dhara and Gaumbi should give this man a little more independence. He's been spoiled by them for far too long.

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

Agree, there's something about Dev that makes him just come off as some whiny, fickle brat. Here's my small comparison between Dev and Shiva (at least from what I've seen in the episodes so far) (Note, these dialogues are an approximate because I don't have time to re-watch)

All of these points are a repeat of everything we've said so far, but I just had to let this out of my system!

Dev: "Rishita, I don't want to marry you because family means the world to me! My bhabi was hurt because of your family!"

Result: Boy ends up marrying the girl anyway. There was no reason/conversation as to why he ultimately changed. I don't know if the makers forgot to include this, or if he really is fickle minded. Even Dhara going up to him and telling him it is okay to marry Rishita as long as he loves her would've been better

Dev: "I'm your older brother."

Result: Way to state the obvious buddy! Either you were being completely ignorant/blind after your wife tried to prank you or somethin'. Literally everyone in the entire house + Hardik noticed how depressed Shiva was. When I watched GauRa's anniversary and the episode post-ShiVi marriage, even I saw how depressed Shiva was. You really think you can step on your brother's happiness like that?

Dev: "Rishita, choose only one. Me or your father!"

Result: Don't make your own wife resent you even more buddy. I'm no Rishita supporter, but she obviously went through a lot to marry you and be happy. She was never in on her father's plans, and quite honestly, she already made that choice the second she ran away. She chose YOU over her father. Instead of respecting her, you are yelling at her to choose? You really think after living with her father for that long, she's going to suddenly not like him anymore?

And that's not to mention he never said anything to stop Rishita when she was being excessive towards Raavi. Like dude, you have to be blind to not notice how miserable Raavi looks. You must've heard about her near suicide attempt. Even after all that, you only chastise your wife in closed corners?

And every time he spoke to GauRa, I couldn't help but feel he was a child. He seemed whiny with stuff like "I like Rishita, though." Or with "I am so sorry" to them but not to Shiva.

Now, we come to Shiva:

Shiva: "I'll marry the Mami Ki Behn Ki Beti"

Result: He took maybe two seconds to make this decision. He doesn't like the girl, but he respects his bhabi and his family. From the beginning, he only cared about his family's happiness, even if that meant sacrificing your own happiness. If that isn't noble, I don't know what is!

Shiva: "Her name is Raavi, and she has the same place in this family as you!"

Result: Unlike Dev who speaks in closed corners, Shiva speaks his mind in front of everyone. He has absolutely no reason to support Raavi (especially since he did not wish to marry her/their longstanding history). But he still spoke his mind. In fact, every time Rishita was being excessive, it was Shiva who stepped in to teach her

Shiva: "I really want to beat up Janardhan"

Result: As much as my boy wanted to show off his physical prowess, he listened to his bhabi's words. He understood that violence is not always the answer and instead built upon another idea that worked just as well. Shiva doesn't always have the best ideas himself. But, he listens to the people around him and attempts to make changes to improve.

I know Raavi frequently says, "His name is only Shiva, but he doesn't possess any of the traits of Shiva," but man oh man is she wrong. Shiva possesses many traits of Shiva by being the ultimate protector of his family. He's a complete softie who would grant any one of his family member's wishes. I've always loved Shiva, as a god, the most. But this Shiva gives me a whole load of new reasons to love the god Shiva!

Though, it kind of stinks to see the imbalance in the character writings. I wish every character was equally strong. Even if Dev said, "Look, I love you both, and I don't want to lose either of you," I think I would understand where he's coming from. Instead, he's just whiny who doesn't even realize the extent of sacrifices his family had done for his happiness.

I think I just automatically love for all the members of Pandya family, most people do, the whole family together just gets me somehow, but I agree with you. Honestly Rishita is annoying and has alot to learn but she doesn't annoy me as much as Dev sometimes. One moment he's aware of his family and Rishita, he's aware of his actions, the next he's not. It hurts to see it when it's his own brother suffering.

Dev and Rishita say they've been in love for two years, I wonder what they were doing because they definitely weren't communicating about their lives. That was Dev's responsibility. He couldn't even communicate what Janardhan really did and how they know to Rishita in yesterday's episode.

He stood up for Shiva and Raavi to Rishita which was great, but only in private! It makes me confused because he clearly is aware of what happened. When he hugged Shiva, I was like okay the apology is coming or this is a start. But it didn't. I almost forgave Dev about the 'I'm older than you' line when he stood up for Shiva, at that time he acted like it. But now it seems he's gone back to thinking he doesn't have to apologise or even talk about it.

I know Shiva has alot to learn too. But this guy is a gem. He has clarity in life and believes in being blunt in situations. For me that's a good thing. I seem to remember him clearly asking Dev what's going on between him and Raavi, and also telling him they're marriage talks are happening right now. I wonder why Dev would ignore such a thing?

It's annoying, at the same time it's great because we'll see some growth.

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I can't comment too much upon Suman's character (as I sporadically watched pre-leap episodes (planning on watching it fully once my summer vacation begins)), but I wonder whether she started off like Dev as well. A little naive and innocent. Perhaps Prafulla and losing her husband turned her into who she is today.

Maybe Dev will go through a similar character arc. So far, he hasn't really faced any major problems. Dhara and Gaumbi essentially took care of everything (Shiva meanwhile must've faced something especially with many side characters calling him a "gawar"). So maybe the method in which he navigates balancing his family (the Pandyas vs. Janardhan) will be his redemption arc.

I really do think Dhara and Gaumbi should give this man a little more independence. He's been spoiled by them for far too long.

We didn't really know Suman before her husband's death. That could have been the case that she started out as naïve but turned into this strong minded woman!!

I really hope that Dev comes through. It would be sad really if he failed to stand with his family and let them down.

Originally posted by: Namita-M

We didn't really know Suman before her husband's death. That could have been the case that she started out as naïve but turned into this strong minded woman!!

I really hope that Dev comes through. It would be sad really if he failed to stand with his family and let them down.

That's always been a thought of mine and why she seems to have the relationship she has with Dhara. Maybe she doesn't want Dhara to face the same pain she went through in her life, hence her strict nature. Very curious to see how Suman proceeds with Raavi and Rishita. She has a soft spot for Raavi right now, considering the wedding and the fact that Raavi chose to stay, but Suman-Rishita is a curiosity of mine!

Originally posted by: Miss_SR

What an apt explanation! 🙌 Just like Shiva, your explanations have so much clarity 😄.

I think I just automatically love for all the members of Pandya family, most people do, the whole family together just gets me somehow, but I agree with you. Honestly Rishita is annoying and has alot to learn but she doesn't annoy me as much as Dev sometimes. One moment he's aware of his family and Rishita, he's aware of his actions, the next he's not. It hurts to see it when it's his own brother suffering.

Dev and Rishita say they've been in love for two years, I wonder what they were doing because they definitely weren't communicating about their lives. That was Dev's responsibility. He couldn't even communicate what Janardhan really did and how they know to Rishita in yesterday's episode.

He stood up for Shiva and Raavi to Rishita which was great, but only in private! It makes me confused because he clearly is aware of what happened. When he hugged Shiva, I was like okay the apology is coming or this is a start. But it didn't. I almost forgave Dev about the 'I'm older than you' line when he stood up for Shiva, at that time he acted like it. But now it seems he's gone back to thinking he doesn't have to apologise or even talk about it.

I know Shiva has alot to learn too. But this guy is a gem. He has clarity in life and believes in being blunt in situations. For me that's a good thing. I seem to remember him clearly asking Dev what's going on between him and Raavi, and also telling him they're marriage talks are happening right now. I wonder why Dev would ignore such a thing?

It's annoying, at the same time it's great because we'll see some growth.

Well said, Sofia!! Shiva, did warn Dev and spoke to him about it. I don't understand why Dev brushed it off. This was marriage. Seedhe bol deta toh yeh naubat nahi aati!!

But then his indecisiveness has led us to ShiVi!! 😆

Jokes apart, Dev needs to talk to Shiva. Apologize to Raavi. He goes on like nothing has happened. He reminds me of an ostrich. Burying his head in the sand isn't going to fix the issue.

Originally posted by: EmeraldPrincess

this scene and this bond has my whole heart

he literally is their Shiva, the one who could give his life for these both.

One look from gaumbi and he always stops. Just like we behave in front of our father.

Otherwise he's all big bad goon

😆😆

I don't praise Gaumbi and Dhara enough! 😍❤ but they deserve it. They're always trying to be there for everyone. One minute they're attending to Raavi's wounds, the next to Shiva, then talking about Rishita's feelings and then warning Janardhan just to protect the whole family. Such sweethearts ❤. And then there's Shiva...who understands them like no other, who would do anything for them...he's already proved it several times. He really is their bacha.

I love their family hugs so much, but also this trio! And Shiva smiled 😭😭😭. Can't wait for it to become a quad 😍❤.

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

That's always been a thought of mine and why she seems to have the relationship she has with Dhara. Maybe she doesn't want Dhara to face the same pain she went through in her life, hence her strict nature. Very curious to see how Suman proceeds with Raavi and Rishita. She has a soft spot for Raavi right now, considering the wedding and the fact that Raavi chose to stay, but Suman-Rishita is a curiosity of mine!

I am curious too. Rishita has rubbed Suman the wrong way when she made a fuss about Dhara doing the aarti!!

Raavi, on the other hand has been nothing but good. Even when defending Shiva, Suman wasn’t demeaning or rude to Raavi. She made her see reason. After what's suman's been through, it's pretty clear, she understands people very well. She really wanted Shiva-Raavi to stay together and it very clear when Raavi chose to stay,. Suman had almost wilted but she sat up straight. It was so good to see that.

In fact, I feel Gautam and Suman knew Raavi wouldn't go. They just had to put her on the spot so she would think and choose.

Sumam from past comments always having been a dominating figure, she raised her brother and by prafullas admission insulted her in the past lol she is fierce mama bear for her sons for sure but she also has tunnel vision in regards to them lol she like others also had a bias towards dhara coz of her mom. Obviously she might sound harsh and do some not so cool things but she knows how to figure out a person hence her secret love for dhara lol she also likes raavi despite her being prafullas niece, as for rishita lol it will take time she seems to be staying neutral for now lol

Why do we not have an episode on Sunday.. dying for new shivi moments 🙈

Same, when this happens, I usually end up going back to old episodes or watch edits on YouTube. It's always fun to see how creative people get over the couple.

Originally posted by: Sakmen

Why do we not have an episode on Sunday.. dying for new shivi moments 🙈