Barrister Babu Episode Discussion Thread - Page 18

Anirudh was always shown like this only right, almost at every track he did all the possible damagae and realization at the end.

Anirudh expected Bon can be send away keeping his marriage to Mano a reality to her, only focus was on her to be brought to track. He was focused on his pain on distancing her, which he will bear .May be kaka probed him to think of her pain on distancing from him, .That reality that Ani has pushed away Bon, strike him..Now all the reality of marriage revelation to polygamy is in front of her as just the means to take her back out from pati-patni rishta. Anirudh is not aware of Mano letter too...And the whole shock of blast and how his decision in fitoor could have damaged everythin.

He always needed an external interfernce to clear his messed up mind. Be it Rasia or kaka. Kaka always pointed him in his fitoor is he over expecting or pressurizing or traumatizing the child

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I so want that marriage revelation to be rectified then I can connect back

Originally posted by: aastha12345

Hello I've been a silent reader since long and want to clear some things with you, reading all the discussions I make out maximum feel disconnected with rudhita or more specifically anirudh, but why??

Yes he made a grave mistake by the second fake marriage thing but now he realizes his blunder in fact yesterday his alter ego depiction was so fine!

Now I don't say ani should be forgiven so soon just because he regrets and did situps (not alone but with bon), but is his character really butchered beyond redemption?

Why is it that during hm track when he made a bigger mistake by ousting a little girl out from the house everyone forgave him immediately when he seeked forgiveness but now everyone is like, no this is beyond all this

Is it because of his attraction towards manorama??

But members here themselves say na ki noone wants a romantic bond between anidita, so obviously his place for bondu is different in heart, which has nothing to do with mano attraction, coz mano attraction was romantically driven, but rudhita is pure bond

Yes he made a mistake which requires a long redemption, but is his character butchered beyond redemption??

Hi Aastha,

Yesterday if u watched the episode in that his inner sense asked the same,ths time damage is beyond repairable.... yup as a viewers all expected the same ARC to be questioned fr each and every mental torture to Bon,he created himselves,becoz ths came to end very soon in single epi is not acceptable by any viewers so precised questiining by inner sense and sudden realisation by ARC.... so as a loyal viewers once agn i feel like trolling vth ARC realisation and abt repairing need more time .....

And HM track tats entirely dfrnt one yaar,its kind of misunderstanding.... bt ths track ARC'S intension and his ways to reach tat destiny is out of range one and not necessary track fr stryline....

Originally posted by: Itsmesabah

I think kaka’s words of how they (RC’s) just about had a narrow escape from going to jail. How Anirudh has pushed away Bon from himself and the damages that he’s done to her innocent heart. To think of how now he can make amendments.

I saw a tweet Sabah which made a lot of sense. I wish I could share it but I don't know how to do so. The tweet gave a lot of depth about the character of Mano.

The tweet said that till Mano was there with ARC, she was constantly praising him for the decision he took - the decision of a second marriage in front of Bon. Remember the night of their wedding, ARC was in guilt because of the marriage BUT Mano said, "Mere mann me tumhara darja aur bhi badh gaya hai, pehle me dost manti thi, ab me tumhe izzat karti hu". After that as long as she was there, she was praising his actions and ARC could never realize where we was at fault. The moment she is not there to praise and Kaka gives him a knock, his consciousness starts giving him the reality check on the damage inflicted. The reason why I initially did not like the character of Manorama was this very fact that she did not seem to realize the magnitude of the pain caused to Bon due to her and Ani's false/real marriage. That made her selfish - her love for her country was selfish (which should be). All she wanted was to fulfil her mission, the pain of Bondita did not matter. And it's ABSOLUTELY OKAY given she is a krantikari and to her even she herself did not matter, let alone Bon's feelings.

But the fact that revolutionaries were high in ideals and they would never chose such a detestable path. But BB has no connection with reality. So this realization of Mano as to how Ani was wrong in choosing this path, no matter how pure his intentions were, was not there. And I would credit this thing to an another fact - of Mano being uneducated. That is why she might not have an idea about how polygamy is wrong.

Also if you remember she was made to look unaffected towards Bon pain. It was only on the reception day that she goes to apply haldi to her wound. That was adorable. Yet, again after that, makers made her speak harsh words to Bon. Obviously she did not mean those, but I would blame it on the dialogue writers. They could have subdued the harshness a bit. Sometimes makers showed Mano considerate towards Bon, sometimes didn't. Her character had this wobbliness in writing. Still, even after those harsh words I could not hate her solo scenes with Bon. Those exuded endearing vibes. I feel Mano-Bon shared a great chemistry. Makers should have explored more of it. Instead of showing her growing comfortability with Ani, if they showed it with Bon that would have been better. But they didn't, sadly.

Originally posted by: aastha12345

Reply for its mesabah as I'm unable to quote Well during the anniversary celebration I somehow didn't find him guilty, when I saw the episode I was cringing so bad at the photograph moment, that literally I would have done the same, yes what he did was definitely wrong, but natural i guess, I would have behaved the same way(I don't say it would have been right), he is impulsive and his anger got the better of him, that's it, moreover it was the first time he realized things so it was an outburst, but was definitely wrong coz she's just a little girl and doesn't deserve this

Aastha...I agree on what the photographer and public demanded and Kaka's nod was just too over the board.But Ani could have avoided the whole celeration, particularly now that he knows what society and Kaka expects.Yes the turn of events with Bon's nagging, in the functions boiled his blood, ut he should have walked out.

I connect to your statement on his, reaction as I agree how its difficult for a short tempered person to keep his calm.I fight it myself sometime to stay at calm, as my moral rage comes up. But you yourself agreed, its not right way .It is a personal weakness to overcome by ourself, not by burdening others.

Him saying the marriage which she holds as her more priced possession , a choot in the whole public was avoided. Even kaka stood their without marking an inevitable end to it by dispersing the gathering

His rage in him has brought down good but it burns too, not just him but everything.This is something he has to learn.We got a little of such self composition after HM, but he has to more to learn

Originally posted by: Indira12

I saw a tweet Sabah which made a lot of sense. I wish I could share it but I don't know how to do so. The tweet gave a lot of depth about the character of Mano.

The tweet said that till Mano was there with ARC, she was constantly praising him for the decision he took - the decision of a second marriage in front of Bon. Remember the night of their wedding, ARC was in guilt because of the marriage BUT Mano said, "Mere mann me tumhara darja aur bhi badh gaya hai, pehle me dost manti thi, ab me tumhe izzat karti hu". After that as long as she was there, she was praising his actions and ARC could never realize where we was at fault. The moment she is not there to praise and Kaka gives him a knock, his consciousness starts giving him the reality check on the damage inflicted. The reason why I initially did not like the character of Manorama was this very fact that she did not seem to realize the magnitude of the pain caused to Bon due to her and Ani's false/real marriage. That made her selfish - her love for her country was selfish (which should be). All she wanted was to fulfil her mission, the pain of Bondita did not matter. And it's ABSOLUTELY OKAY given she is a krantikari and to her even she herself did not matter, let alone Bon's feelings.

But the fact that revolutionaries were high in ideals and they would never chose such a detestable path. But BB has no connection with reality. So this realization of Mano as to how Ani was wrong in choosing this path, no matter how pure his intentions were, was not there. And I would credit this thing to an another fact - of Mano being uneducated. That is why she might not have an idea about how polygamy is wrong.

Also if you remember she was made to look unaffected towards Bon pain. It was only on the reception day that she goes to apply haldi to her wound. That was adorable. Yet, again after that, makers made her speak harsh words to Bon. Obviously she did not mean those, but I would blame it on the dialogue writers. They could have subdued the harshness a bit. Sometimes makers showed Mano considerate towards Bon, sometimes didn't. Her character had this wobbliness in writing. Still, even after those harsh words I could not hate her solo scenes with Bon. Those exuded endearing vibes. I feel Mano-Bon shared a great chemistry. Makers should have explored more of it. Instead of showing her growing comfortability with Ani, if they showed it with Bon that would have been better. But they didn't, sadly.

Indeed Indu dint think of it from this point. In retrospection it is very true that most of the time all Mano did was talking and half of which was praising Anirudh. It’s actually true when someone is wrong or makes a mistake and if he is praised rather than being rebuked he would never realise his mistake.“Galat ka saath dene wala bhi galat hota hai”. Mano and Ani were somewhat alike in more than one way. Both were obsessed with their own agendas without caring about anything or anyone they just wanted to accomplish their respective missions by hook or by crook. Maybe that’s why the mutual admiration.

As we all know that Mano’s character was a badly written one could be due to the script changes that they made due to backlash but it definitely dint come across as planned maybe.

Originally posted by: aastha12345

I'm unable to quote coz of restrictions so posting as a reply for itsmesabah, I've also replied before, so regarding the pati babu ki bondita thing I was not very comfortable with it tbh, I knew it was actually a non Romantic confession but still made me uncomfortable as it came from a man who stood against child marriage, the only explanation I have to it is that that time he was not into the societal definition of pati patni rishta, he comfortably called her patni and loved her like his child, but things changed as he attained puberty, society started expecting a physical relationship and bondu a romantic (as thought by ani, coz bon ka crush was only induced), so he withdrew with a safe word that is zimmedari, he called her so coz he couldn't explain her his actual feelings (she's too young to understand difference between romantic and non Romantic love), and I nowhere found his pati patni rant as an indication of rudhita being endgame, I actually want them to part ways and find life partners coz it makes me feel creepy ki the person ani always saw as a kid is developing romantic feelings for her

@ul : we saw in Chodi hui aurat track, an imaginary Bon confronted him on how you always say about woman rights, but you were recluctant in giving me rights as your wife. Hence the steps from his end in giving the honour of his wife RC bahu, which by then he knew was needed for his existence in society. Change cannot be brought out over a night.And yes at that time, no social definition of marriage was interfering their relation, So Ani with ease and comfort called her patni and owned their relation in their own way

@bold 1: I felt different here, he loved here like a child and was in child like form to her.But not as his child.He could have told her lagav was more of parental but he said dost and shikshak.

Zimmedari was his shield to society, to himself and now to Bon too, because he is clueless of how to handle it else particularly with on fantasizing their relation

@bold2Honestly, considering the era parting the ways and finding new partners particularly for a woman would have been alien concept, after CHA,HM track.

ani always saw as a kid is developing romantic feelings for her

That is why their rishta is different, its never going to be like normal one ..Tag line'prathon ke bhavar se kaise nikalega ye rishta'

..what u felt is exactly Ani's issue too...he see her , he sees the child, but she is his patni too, which he cannot deny atleast suconsciously

Like he might never truly be able give the position of patni to anyone else

But he could never see her as patni too..It is whole a conflicting situation

It wont come to a clear conclusion too.I has to traverse its own path to see how Ani and Bon perceive and get settled in relation

While seeing this in perspective on Ani, we must also see that Bon, lived in the belief of his wife and bahu.So if she expect a romantic relation of pati-patni in future, we could not detest it too.Its about both. Now that marraige revelation and annulment follows, she might chose to see him different in future

Originally posted by: aastha12345

Hello I've been a silent reader since long and want to clear some things with you, reading all the discussions I make out maximum feel disconnected with rudhita or more specifically anirudh, but why??

Yes he made a grave mistake by the second fake marriage thing but now he realizes his blunder in fact yesterday his alter ego depiction was so fine!

Now I don't say ani should be forgiven so soon just because he regrets and did situps (not alone but with bon), but is his character really butchered beyond redemption?

Why is it that during hm track when he made a bigger mistake by ousting a little girl out from the house everyone forgave him immediately when he seeked forgiveness but now everyone is like, no this is beyond all this

Is it because of his attraction towards manorama??

But members here themselves say na ki noone wants a romantic bond between anidita, so obviously his place for bondu is different in heart, which has nothing to do with mano attraction, coz mano attraction was romantically driven, but rudhita is pure bond

Yes he made a mistake which requires a long redemption, but is his character butchered beyond redemption??

The redemption during the HM track was beyond ordinary. Ani's prayaschit, as he likes to say, was on the point. Public humiliation - apologies in front of women in a kotha, which is 'deemed' to be a lower section of the society, yet Ani did not gave a second thought about it (showed how much of a high-principled man ARC is; apology in private too (in the storeroom of Tarabai's seesh mahal); accepting his own fault in front of the society before whom he accused Bon (during Mini expose); and obviously how he put his life at stake to save Bon. All of this was enough for us to forgive him.

I don't know if there will be 'an enough redemption' of him this time. If it happens, we'll surely try to forgive him too.

Also as Sabah said, the relationship did not had so much of development that time. Now, when after a whole one year is spent on building it, the fall would be much more painful. There has been a growth, right? So there will be some obvious consequences, it won't be similar as before.

As long as butchering is considered, well if you look through the episodes closely you will definitely get an idea about it. There are a lot of instances - like once he prided on the capabilities of Indian women, now he says something else, previously he would get to know about the pain of Bon on hearing her footsteps only (according to him) now he doesn't. He did not go to check on Bon after she was feeling low about the cake fiasco. A lot more is there it is visible in his behaviour, but you can see it only if you want to see it. All of it can't be written in a single post. Even he himself said, "the damage is irreparable".

Dear don't always bring up the issue of Ani loving Mano and romantic bond between Ani-Bon. This isn't always going to help. As Sabah mentioned the love would have been well received by the audience if it was executed well. But terming a first-time attraction as zindagi bhar ka pyaar is not done. The problem was with the way Ani fell in love, not with the fact that Ani fell in love. Those glove caressing scenes were totally out of character for ARC. The only thing that would have saved his character was this realization - that even though Bon is his zimmedari, he is tied to Bon in a sacred thread of marriage and that does not give him the right to think about someone else. Just something on these lines. That's it.

Originally posted by: faja

@ul : we saw in Chodi hui aurat track, an imaginary Bon confronted him on how you always say about woman rights, but you were recluctant in giving me rights as your wife. Hence the steps from his end in giving the honour of his wife RC bahu, which by then he knew was needed for his existence in society. Change cannot be brought out over a night.And yes at that time, no social definition of marriage was interfering their relation, So Ani with ease and comfort called her patni and owned their relation in their own way

@bold 1: I felt different here, he loved here like a and was in child like form to her.But not as his child.He could have told her lagav was more of parental but he said dost and shikshak.

Zimmedari was his shield to society, to himself and now to Bon too, because he is clueless of how to handle it else particularly with on fantasizing their relation

@bold2Honestly, considering the era parting the ways and finding new partners particularly for a woman would have been alien concept, after CHA,HM track.

ani always saw as a kid is developing romantic feelings for her

That is why their rishta is different, its never going to be like normal one ..Tag line'prathon ke bhavar se kaise nikalega ye rishta'

..what u felt is exactly Ani's issue too...he see her , he sees the child, but she is his patni too, which he cannot deny atleast suconsciously

Like he might never truly be able give the position of patni to anyone else

But he could never see her as patni too..It is whole a conflicting situation

It wont come to a clear conclusion too.I has to traverse its own path to see how Ani and Bon perceive and get settled in relation

While seeing this in perspective on Ani, we must also see that Bon, lived in the belief of his wife and bahu.So if she expect a romantic relation of pati-patni in future, we could not detest it too.Its about both. Now that marraige revelation and annulment follows, she might chose to see him different in future

This was just absolutely Beautiful Faja 👏

“He loved her like a child not His child” just what I thought. 😍

Originally posted by: rajiraji14

Hi Aastha,

Yesterday if u watched the episode in that his inner sense asked the same,ths time damage is beyond repairable.... yup as a viewers all expected the same ARC to be questioned fr each and every mental torture to Bon,he created himselves,becoz ths came to end very soon in single epi is not acceptable by any viewers so precised questiining by inner sense and sudden realisation by ARC.... so as a loyal viewers once agn i feel like trolling vth ARC realisation and abt repairing need more time .....

And HM track tats entirely dfrnt one yaar,its kind of misunderstanding.... bt ths track ARC'S intension and his ways to reach tat destiny is out of range one and not necessary track fr stryline....

Yes the realization came suddenly, but as we had a dialogue'the damage is irreparable', so I think we are going to see glimpses of how bondita's behaviour towards aniruddh changes, she feels afraid of him and develops trust issues with him, then maybe slowly we'll see ani repenting each day realising his irreparable damage and work towards regaining her trust back, I know the makers are not gonna give this but I need it, maybe they give

Originally posted by: Indira12

I saw a tweet Sabah which made a lot of sense. I wish I could share it but I don't know how to do so. The tweet gave a lot of depth about the character of Mano.

The tweet said that till Mano was there with ARC, she was constantly praising him for the decision he took - the decision of a second marriage in front of Bon. Remember the night of their wedding, ARC was in guilt because of the marriage BUT Mano said, "Mere mann me tumhara darja aur bhi badh gaya hai, pehle me dost manti thi, ab me tumhe izzat karti hu". After that as long as she was there, she was praising his actions and ARC could never realize where we was at fault. The moment she is not there to praise and Kaka gives him a knock, his consciousness starts giving him the reality check on the damage inflicted. The reason why I initially did not like the character of Manorama was this very fact that she did not seem to realize the magnitude of the pain caused to Bon due to her and Ani's false/real marriage. That made her selfish - her love for her country was selfish (which should be). All she wanted was to fulfil her mission, the pain of Bondita did not matter. And it's ABSOLUTELY OKAY given she is a krantikari and to her even she herself did not matter, let alone Bon's feelings.

But the fact that revolutionaries were high in ideals and they would never chose such a detestable path. But BB has no connection with reality. So this realization of Mano as to how Ani was wrong in choosing this path, no matter how pure his intentions were, was not there. And I would credit this thing to an another fact - of Mano being uneducated. That is why she might not have an idea about how polygamy is wrong.

Also if you remember she was made to look unaffected towards Bon pain. It was only on the reception day that she goes to apply haldi to her wound. That was adorable. Yet, again after that, makers made her speak harsh words to Bon. Obviously she did not mean those, but I would blame it on the dialogue writers. They could have subdued the harshness a bit. Sometimes makers showed Mano considerate towards Bon, sometimes didn't. Her character had this wobbliness in writing. Still, even after those harsh words I could not hate her solo scenes with Bon. Those exuded endearing vibes. I feel Mano-Bon shared a great chemistry. Makers should have explored more of it. Instead of showing her growing comfortability with Ani, if they showed it with Bon that would have been better. But they didn't, sadly.

U are correct even after just seeing his marriage relation that u don’t consider ur wife ur wife she is zimmedaari, let me marry u and help me so the way she asked was I consider any

Despite of being a freedom fighter she was not progressive ,bold in thoughts which ani knows bon is at a remarkable age by bringing revolution for women he it respecting hm girls ,fighting Tara bai, doing tarks in front of village men ani knows via her simplicity,innermost thoughts and tarks bon is such a remarkable girl with fierce and bold woman in making with ani she got more freedom and courage to hold on to her tarks and learn nee things from him as he is her support , but the carefree girl she is like ani told she is lajavaab,amazing and also way ahead of her times with her inner courage to ask questions

She just went off track due to societal talks and insecurities and she before that went through hell lot of time