Raavi's attitude towards Shiva - Page 2

Originally posted by: milkcakejamun

I want to preface this post by saying that I love talking about Shiva and Raavi. There's so many nuances in their characters, and the situation that brought them together will definitely be talked about/analyzed for the future.

Now, this remake is adequately different from the original. In the original, the Shiva and Raavi pair did not have any moments tinged with "romance" or "fate." All their moments showed how much they did not like each other, and what's making Raavi's hate harder to swallow, for me at least, is how the makers took this "You married me because of revenge" (which was showed in the regional version) despite having all those "moments" with Shiva prior to marriage. I mean this is the same girl who interacted with a man who hated her, and now she seems to be irrationally projecting her hate on only him and no one else. This probably is a flaw with following the original.

Now, I'm going to play devil's advocate and try to advocate for Raavi's behavior. It seemed that for sometime, Raavi seemed to value Shiva's opinions--whether it was to rile him up or whether she did carve some type of love for him as he was a Pandya son and the brother of her childhood love. The wedding, seeing Rishita, having her childhood end right then and there all came crashing down in a few minutes. The poor girl didn't even get the time to process all these emotions by herself as the whole town was there to witness this.

It probably did a number on her mental health--causing her to act irrationally. Also, out of everyone to save her, Shiva was the one. It probably confused her, but because of how torn she was mentally, I don't think she had the time to think about Shiva's feelings. I think she just began to make warped assumptions.

"Why would someone who hated me marry me?" --> For revenge, of course.

"Why would someone who hated me save me?" --> He wants to see me further suffer, and if I stay alive, he can see this

And these explanations were the only explanations that fit for her at that moment (depression/fear can become quickly dangerous if left untreated).

As for the chai, I thought by not giving chai to Shiva, she somehow returned back to their pre-marriage days. Most people around me, and even myself just a bit, show anger to those closest to us. For those I don't care about, I don't think twice. It wouldn't matter for me to give them tea or not. I think Raavi is mad, no angry, at a lot of people in that house. From the way Rishita seems to accuse her of continuing to have feelings for Dev, to Dev being a statue in this whole situation, to Dhara who seemed to only feel bad for her (up until that point because there is Dhara and Raavi's semi-patch up scene at the end of the episode).

By giving them chai, I thought it was Raavi's way of saying, "I don't give a damn about you, and this is proof." But by not giving Shiva chai, I thought it was her way to vent out her frustrations, and a way for her to show Shiva that yes, I am angry, now do something about it! (I know this is warped and everything, but I've seen some couples do this, never made sense to me myself, but then again, love is one of the most confusing emotions).

I think a conversation between them highly, highly warranted. And I don't think it should just be one of them doing the work. I think they both need to sit down, alone, and talk (and Janardhan and his goons will provide them the best opportunity to do this). I don't expect them to fall in love in a day. I think they'll have to do a lot of introspection, make a few more sacrifices/adjustments, and truly understand what the other wants in the relationship. As much as divorce/annulment of their marriage might be a possibility (considering how much they do not like one another), I think as viewers, we know that such a scenario is highly unlikely.

Wow! You've explained it quite well.😍😍

I defintely feel much better about the chai scene now, thanks for this new insight.❤️

But if its majorly because she is hurt and not processed everything now, then that makes me believe even more that she will regret this in future.

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

Wow! You've explained it quite well.😍😍

I defintely feel much better about the chai scene now, thanks for this new insight.❤️

But if its majorly because she is hurt and not processed everything now, then that makes me believe even more that she will regret this in future.

Even I felt better after reading that post

Actually I was really upset with chai issue..

Thanks everyone! In regards to how I think up of these things, it's the many patients I see. I'm not going to go into the down and dirty, but I've met many many different people (from lonely elderly, kids who've run away from homes, first-time parents, prisoners, individuals with disabilities to name a few). After talking to all these people, I've started to understand and appreciate different viewpoints. Media constantly portrays a black/white view of the world, but reality is very much gray, and as a future doctor, I can't let my opinions take over my patient's opinions.

In terms of ShiVi, I think both of them clearly have an ideal type:

Shiva wants a woman who can respect and care for the family like his Dhara bhabi

Raavi wants a man who will show her unconditional love and happiness. (I think the reason she refused Dev after finding out about Rishita is because she doesn't ever want to feel inferior to Dev's memory of Rishita should they have gotten married)

As viewers, we know both of them will satisfy each other. As for the timing, I don't think the makers would want to prolong it for too long. If social media is anything to go by, I think they'll understand we're a greedy bunch for ShiVi😆

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

But, after wedding also Suman while blessing him said that he has saved family's izzat, and saved Raavi's life now its his responsibility to keep her happy. So shouldn't she have an inkling of it?

Or maybe she hasn't processed it, because she simply isn't in that mindset.

@bold

That is what I am annoyed with, I hope kidnapping track helps.

Yea she got lot of hints even that lady said na during wedding, but as u said she is not in mind set to think ig..right now its fine but if they drag this more it will be annoying for us viewers..

For tea incident my 2 cents , i feel she dint make tea to shiva as she was angry & she had to put it on someone..& u won't be angry on strangers its always with someone " apna" ...she wanted to show she is frustrated to shiva

or she wants to remind herself " she isnt his wife dil se" she is scared what if that dream turns true..

I think we have to consider the fact that Raavi has always been in a world of her own. While Dev is largely at fault for encouraging her feelings towards him , his approach was lukewarm . A girl who thinks more than Raavi , would've felt something is amiss and explored on it. Raavi did not. She probably choked it up to nerves or something.

Right now too she is not thinking too much as she's going through a whole mix and match of trauma. For her to truly open her eyes, it needs conversation between these two.

But raavi in full.sense believing Shiva has personal vengeance so married then it is justified. Shiva never wanted her at his home at any cost suddenly he agrees why for dhara. According to raavi POV if marriage didn't happen dhara wouldn't lose much . Only few days of blaming and all. So why Shiva agreed is the issue. Practically its difficult to digest how shiva agreed in one go.

whatever be raavi's thoughts it should settle soon nd not very late with love realisation. Their fights shud be for new reasons not this repeatative topic. if itsorts in 1-2 weeks its different from regular ITV shows

Originally posted by: tinapiku

But raavi in full.sense believing Shiva has personal vengeance so married then it is justified. Shiva never wanted her at his home at any cost suddenly he agrees why for dhara. According to raavi POV if marriage didn't happen dhara wouldn't lose much . Only few days of blaming and all. So why Shiva agreed is the issue. Practically its difficult to digest how shiva agreed in one go.

whatever be raavi's thoughts it should settle soon nd not very late with love realisation. Their fights shud be for new reasons not this repeatative topic. if itsorts in 1-2 weeks its different from regular ITV shows

If she believes that, then maybe she doesn't really know Shiva much. Anybody who sees him with a clear mind, without any prejudice or hatred, can instantly recognize how much Shiva loves his family.

@bold Agreed

But that's the point though. She's clearly not seeing Shiva with a clear head or mindset. And I hate to compare her to Rishita but she has tunnel vision just like her. Whereas Rishita can only see Dev and everything and everyone is apparently against them. Raavi has tunnel vision to the memories of Shiva hating her, even if she knows him, those memories live in the forefront because of their current situation.

Idk if any of that made sense but I'm trying to say that even though she knows him and grew up with them, she was also always aware of the fact that Shiva had never liked her.

Originally posted by: hedwig_potter

If she believes that, then maybe she doesn't really know Shiva much. Anybody who sees him with a clear mind, without any prejudice or hatred, can instantly recognize how much Shiva loves his family.

@bold Agreed

Originally posted by: ms.ObseSSeD

But that's the point though. She's clearly not seeing Shiva with a clear head or mindset. And I hate to compare her to Rishita but she has tunnel vision just like her. Whereas Rishita can only see Dev and everything and everyone is apparently against them. Raavi has tunnel vision to the memories of Shiva hating her, even if she knows him, those memories live in the forefront because of their current situation.

Idk if any of that made sense but I'm trying to say that even though she knows him and grew up with them, she was also always aware of the fact that Shiva had never liked her.

Made perfect sense. I understand and agree with you.

Waiting for the kidnapping track (in the hope that it will bring positive changes for ShiVi)

I feel like Shiva is her comfort cushion hence this.

All of us get angry, feel irritated and be irrational with the people we know would take the tantrum. Shiva is the only one with whom she can fight without the veil of respect on it, with Dhara she won't. She might claw Rishita but she isn't her own to be angry at. Unknowingly she doesn't have an emotional connect with Dev.

Raavi might love or hate Shiva but can't ignore him. It's like she's showing her frustration of all 3 on Shiva, the only one who is going to take it. Backanswer her but won't leave her alone