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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Exactly!

What does she think neighbors can do other than gossip? This is not only about Devi, she gave them a nice scoop of Bhabhi-Devar EMA, One would think, why is this woman living with a man like Virat?

It took Virat throwing her out of the house to realize that he is doing Kumdi me Sumdi with Dholki, what about when she went all "Virat Sir, q kiss Kiss here an Kiss kiss there with him"? The point here is that it came out in anger but this is what she thinks about Virat and Dholki, why she has problems now, not before? Or she was just being petty and thought while she is at it, she can throw some shade of dirt on Virat too


This scene would have looked much better if instead of calling neighbors she would have gone to file a domestic violence complaint in nearest police station, Police would be there and she could have done and said exactly what she did in presence of neighbors, who came there on their own, Sai was just doing petty tamasha

It was a well planned revenge . It can be only two things either she was petty or she lacks self respect to romance a man who is cheating on her. It was such an embarrassment to see an educated girl precisely a topper doing tamasha on the streets.
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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: sadiltl


Isn’t she a teenager still 😆 has to do with her insaafpadand + ziddi + pampered ( by KJ and virat) and age factor . Deadly combination 😂



Honestly, I'm also a pampered child of my parents (though we're 2 sisters). Even at the age of 21, my parents pampers me (almost like a woman-child). But yes! I too had that sensibility at the age 18, what to do or what not. I know that attitude of my way or highway, ya I know it all, won't give me anything. So yeah! Age doesn't always can't be used as an excuse for her acts!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Sorry babes but at the end of this track virat will crawl in sai feet by saying sorry and crying and what not.it will be right too.

But sai will be glorify as miss perfect.like sai hai toh sahi hai.

That's the part I despise the most. ITV glorifies FL for all the wrong reasons.
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: sadiltl


Isn’t she a teenager still 😆 has to do with her insaafpadand + ziddi + pampered ( by KJ and virat) and age factor . Deadly combination 😂


How many teenagers are capable of things what sai has done.if her actions are much above her age.so are the consequences.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I understand what you are saying and I agree to a certain extent. I agree it's TiT fiorTAT but when he realizes his mistake and apologizes for it will Sai also do the same? This is the problem I have with the characterization. I have never seen an educated person washing their dirty linen in public.


For what he has done, there is no apology that works actually. However if you have seen my posts, I have time and again said I have issues with Sai not apologising to Virat. Thats her character.But right now I have more bothered about Virat being turned into an abuser that too being an IPS officer which is not his character. Sai's mistake has been reduced to 0 , in comparison to Virat's. He not only asked his wife to not enter the house at midnight but also insulted his mother in law.. Not the Virat I we were introduced to. Thats my issue with the plot and characterization. Regarding washing dirty linen, well even the Ambanis have done that😆 This is still a fictional show. And Virat himself said to Sai again and again that he doesnt care, what neighbours think , if they see two women being thrown out by the women rakshak IPS officer at midnight, so lo have it on your face then.



If it's done within the four walls of their room, it can be termed as insecurity but time and again doing it in public is questioning his character. Aai was wrong too. If she has concerns she should talk to him in private and Aai should realize she was somewhere responsible for this mess.


Because time and again Patralekha in being with Virat is termed right by the same set of public(the family),because the same set of public abused her, accused her of plotting the trip with her husband where he was to go with his Vehni. Sai was assasinated there and not PP, in normal cases the Vehni would be questioned for cancelling the ticket , just because the wife of the man she is going with is coming along. Sai did she that and was appalled and realised that they actually know and encourage it.


Firstly, I doing believe there is anything wrong if two adults romance with each other. She wasn't intoxicated when the dupatta stupor happened. She immediately hatched the plan to elope Devi. She was in her senses when she almost kissed her husband. They is nothing wrong but if she believes he is having an affair with someone then how could she romance him. Either she says to hurt Virat and knows he is loyal to her in every sense.


Being in stupor doesnt mean that you dont realise or remember thing, you just dont have a control. Just because she remembered about Pulkit doesnt mean she was completely out of intoxication. Thats debatable. I know people who have perfect memory and know what they want to do even when they go in the flow for a moment when intoxicated.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I am sharing something which many here might not agree with but for my sanity, I need to vent about today’s episode. I am disappointed with the neighbors' drama and nothing justifies Sai’s behavior for me. Before I say further, I want to make one thing clear, I don't support Virat throwing Sai out no matter how hurt he was and he needs to realize the grave mistake he committed , and similarly, I don't approve of Sai’s behavior for few reasons


1. Two wrongs never make a right: I don't think I need to say anything more.


I absolutely agree 100% with you on this.


2. Provocation is not a valid justification: Many might say Virat provoked her to take this step. If this is a valid reason to act this way, are we saying Virat was also right in throwing her out because he was betrayed, lied, and was kept in dark about the whole issue? We have discussed enough of Sai’s mistake in Devkit's marriage so I am keeping it as short as possible. Either both acts have to be right or both have to be condemned. Sai claims to speak only the truth then why didn't the entire truth was revealed about how Virat supported her for this marriage but the fake letter changed his perception and how he agreed for reinvestigation but she took a decision without informing him and how she has hidden the kidnapping drama from him and he found out everything when he caught her red-handed in the shaadi mantap.


Hear me out, I have to go quite a few episodes back for this. When Virat came to know about Pulkit he didn’t even want to do a background check he blindly trusted Sai saying she will not be wrong. All it takes for that trust to vanish is a anonymous letter is it? The background check investigation was a really a shoddy one. As civilian I can do better bg check hiring a PI. He is an ACP. If he had done a thorough investigation doosri bhar karne ki naubat nahi aathi. (Here I am going to blame f*g writers for lazy writing) If she waited for the reinvestigation there is no telling what the CN gang will do after the kidnapping kand. So that’s the answer for What is the hurry question plus I would again say poor writing of f*g cvs.


Sai not telling about the truth is because one, she doesn’t have any proof, two she doesn’t want Virat to be hurt because of his family (yes I believe Sai does care for Virat) three she is not 100% sure Virat will believe her against his family without proof.

Most of us condemn the act of Sai for rushing through the wedding that too of a emotionally challenged person.

We should applaud the cv ingenuity here, Virat IPS does a shoddy investigation and Doctor Sai doesn’t give a damn about the mental health of person. Both the characters got butchered professionally in equal measure!



3. Gratitude: Virat’s gratitude to KJ gets questioned every time he makes a mistake then can we question Sai about the same. Did she think of a man who stood by her in the times when everyone deserted her? Despite being a deal marriage, he went out of his way to make her feel special and did more than their deal terms. I need to clarify again it doesn't justify Virat’s mistakes.


4. Character assignation : I agree what Virat did was borderline domestic violence. Can we say everytime she hints about Virat Pakhi EMA in front of all is a kind of character assassination. Until now Virat hasn't crossed his limits in her presence nor in her absence so what makes her feel he will have a “good time” with Pakhi. I haven't seen him having a “ good time “ with Pakhi after his marriage. I agree Pakhi crosses her limits but why accuse Virat why not talk about Pakhi alone . She was told about his commitment before the marriage. If she found it disgusting she shouldn't have married him . Nothing was hidden from her. If she can get Devkit married against everyone’s wishes then I am sure she could have stopped her wedding as well. I have zero sympathies for Pakhi but Virat hasn't done anything to be accused. If she believes he is having an affair with Pakhi then why was she romancing him in the Holi party ? Isn't it equally disgusting to romance a man who had an affair behind your back?


Ok it’s Not borderline domestic violence IT IS Domestic Violence. Throwing your wife in the middle of the night is domestic violence. Whatever mistakes the wife did or betrayal the husband feels no human deserves to be treated that way. It’s Sai’s home as well.

I am not going to say anything about Pakhi and Virat dynamics because it will take whole new post. And what I have read in your earlier posts we do agree on few points! 😁


Role reversal : Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him?


Probably yes because violence against women is more, so we are conditioned to support women more by media and our society. We feel empowered when we raise voice for another women. Some do it to satisfy their ego look at me I am modern and have progressive values or some with genuine concern and want to bring in changes.


I am not her hater but I can't overlook her mistakes and I am either a misogynistic nor a misandrist. I believe if we say Virat deserves this then it goes without saying that Sai deserves whatever he did. I need to clarify again, I don't support Chavan's and Pakhi for their behavior. I would support Sai if she files a case against Chavan's for kidnapping and walks out of the marriage if she is unable to stay with him. Doing drama in front of the neighbors and returning to the same family , accusing husband of EMA whenever she is angry and romancing the same man when she is happy is not a sign of empowerment.


I am not tagging anyone as I believe not many people will be interested in this. I need to vent for me to feel better.


Disclaimer: I am a Sairat fan and will always be. We seldom talk about Virat’s pain hence i am sharing my views


Shared my two cents in blue😊


Like you watching GHKPM for Sairat. Even though I understand Virat’s pain it just doesn’t justify his actions. If he was businessman like every other itv ml it wouldn’t have bothered me so much IMO.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

I am sharing something which many here might not agree with but for my sanity, I need to vent about today’s episode. I am disappointed with the neighbors' drama and nothing justifies Sai’s behavior for me. Before I say further, I want to make one thing clear, I don't support Virat throwing Sai out no matter how hurt he was and he needs to realize the grave mistake he committed , and similarly, I don't approve of Sai’s behavior for few reasons


1. Two wrongs never make a right: I don't think I need to say anything more.


2. Provocation is not a valid justification: Many might say Virat provoked her to take this step. If this is a valid reason to act this way, are we saying Virat was also right in throwing her out because he was betrayed, lied, and was kept in dark about the whole issue? We have discussed enough of Sai’s mistake in Devkit's marriage so I am keeping it as short as possible. Either both acts have to be right or both have to be condemned. Sai claims to speak only the truth then why didn't the entire truth was revealed about how Virat supported her for this marriage but the fake letter changed his perception and how he agreed for reinvestigation but she took a decision without informing him and how she has hidden the kidnapping drama from him and he found out everything when he caught her red-handed in the shaadi mantap.

>> Like she would have told the drama to him and he would have believed, the man who didnt even let her speak passed a judgement. I do understand his anger, his trust is broken so he wont listen. But no where she was wrong either.

She taking Devi tai was wrong but that was the last resort, she hoped these guys would understand atleast post marriage, but she did not know these people are heartless including her so called husband



3. Gratitude: Virat’s gratitude to KJ gets questioned every time he makes a mistake then can we question Sai about the same. Did she think of a man who stood by her in the times when everyone deserted her? Despite being a deal marriage, he went out of his way to make her feel special and did more than their deal terms. I need to clarify again it doesn't justify Virat’s mistakes.


>> What gratitude people keep on referring to, he stood by her because he thought she was right not because she forced him. At some level they both are righteous, he standing by her does not count as gratitude. He has never stood by her as a husband yet, tell me a scene where he has. I could only see it in the scene post the sequence in front of Pakhi. If he has done his share so has she, she didnt ask for this family but has put up with them for him. A relation is a 2 way street, and both of them have had their right or wrong.


4. Character assignation : I agree what Virat did was borderline domestic violence. Can we say everytime she hints about Virat Pakhi EMA in front of all is a kind of character assassination. Until now Virat hasn't crossed his limits in her presence nor in her absence so what makes her feel he will have a “good time” with Pakhi. I haven't seen him having a “ good time “ with Pakhi after his marriage. I agree Pakhi crosses her limits but why accuse Virat why not talk about Pakhi alone . She was told about his commitment before the marriage. If she found it disgusting she shouldn't have married him . Nothing was hidden from her. If she can get Devkit married against everyone’s wishes then I am sure she could have stopped her wedding as well. I have zero sympathies for Pakhi but Virat hasn't done anything to be accused. If she believes he is having an affair with Pakhi then why was she romancing him in the Holi party ? Isn't it equally disgusting to romance a man who had an affair behind your back?


>>> Wah, means a man tells a 19 year old i am only marrying you for responsibility and am committed to someone is a man with a character. She never has pointed out he has an affair, she even after ladakh trip mentioned does he stop himself because of her. But a girl who sees the other woman's advances on her husband, should not even point it out. The same husband who yelled at his own wife because she was showing the other woman reality.


Role reversal : Are we more sensitive to women's pain than men. If there was a role reversal and if Virat had done this would will we still, applaud him?


I am not her hater but I can't overlook her mistakes and I am either a misogynistic nor a misandrist. I believe if we say Virat deserves this then it goes without saying that Sai deserves whatever he did. I need to clarify again, I don't support Chavan's and Pakhi for their behavior. I would support Sai if she files a case against Chavan's for kidnapping and walks out of the marriage if she is unable to stay with him. Doing drama in front of the neighbors and returning to the same family , accusing husband of EMA whenever she is angry and romancing the same man when she is happy is not a sign of empowerment.


I am not tagging anyone as I believe not many people will be interested in this. I need to vent for me to feel better.


Disclaimer: I am a Sairat fan and will always be. We seldom talk about Virat’s pain hence i am sharing my views


Well, i dont know what to say. I guess every one understands Virat's pain and anger. In anger Virat can throw his wife out of the house which is justified stating anger. But a wife cannot create a scene cause she feels humiliated wah, this is the society we live in.

If a man takes a step in anger that's an action out of his underlying love but a woman taking a step for self respect would not go down on anyone. And to judge this action are also female most of the time


Both were wrong and have taken drastic steps, he threw her out for his family. She is pulling down that family but is she doing it for self, well let the entire scene play out.

She is anyways going to walk out of the house, so why is she doing all this thats to be seen.


Waise the man says, he is worried about his sister and wants to go for a jog. Has time to chit chat with his best friend, have dinner talks but is not in a hurry to arrest a fraud man. Matlab ye sahi hain.

If someone really would have been bothered about sister, he would done something years ago or moved mountains within that night to bring his sister back.

Call it a shady writing or screenplay, but that was a shitty dialogue.


For me this show was never of Sai or Virat, it is their journey with too many wrongs and both learning in this phase. Sai is not right at some point and So is Virat.

Respect your opinion, but don't think what she is doing is wrong. And to someone who mentioned no husband would throw his wife out, then you guys are far from reality. There are many cases where a girl is thrown out of her in laws house for stupid reasons (An incident i know, a wife was thrown out because the husband and wife fought over who would change a kids nappy)


Anyways i mentioned to someone this forum has also become toxic just as the series, apologies but i have no interest to connect with this forum going forward.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

It was a well planned revenge . It can be only two things either she was petty or she lacks self respect to romance a man who is cheating on her. It was such an embarrassment to see an educated girl precisely a topper doing tamasha on the streets.

A state topper, an educated woman, daughter of a policeman can't call cops on people who are abusing her, how do we applaud this? I don't see it as TIT for TAT, If you call it domestic violence, which it is, then don't you expect an educated women would actually take the legal route instead of this?

I an not against tamasha, I am saying will Kaku be in prison for kidnapping? Will Virat pay for throwing his wife out of the house?

Since people call Sai, the icon of woman empowerment, would you really prefer that women do this tamasha In front of neighbor than file domestic violence charges to get justice or actually report a crime like kidnapping?

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Roch


Well, i dont know what to say. I guess every one understands Virat's pain and anger. In anger Virat can throw his wife out of the house which is justified stating anger. But a wife cannot create a scene cause she feels humiliated wah, this is the society we live in.

If a man takes a step in anger that's an action out of his underlying love but a woman taking a step for self respect would not go down on anyone. And to judge this action are also female most of the time


Both were wrong and have taken drastic steps, he threw her out for his family. She is pulling down that family but is she doing it for self, well let the entire scene play out.

She is anyways going to walk out of the house, so why is she doing all this thats to be seen.


Waise the man says, he is worried about his sister and wants to go for a jog. Has time to chit chat with his best friend, have dinner talks but is not in a hurry to arrest a fraud man. Matlab ye sahi hain.

If someone really would have been bothered about sister, he would done something years ago or moved mountains within that night to bring his sister back.

Call it a shady writing or screenplay, but that was a shitty dialogue.


For me this show was never of Sai or Virat, it is their journey with too many wrongs and both learning in this phase. Sai is not right at some point and So is Virat.

Respect your opinion, but don't think what she is doing is wrong. And to someone who mentioned no husband would throw his wife out, then you guys are far from reality. There are many cases where a girl is thrown out of her in laws house for stupid reasons (An incident i know, a wife was thrown out because the husband and wife fought over who would change a kids nappy)


Anyways i mentioned to someone this forum has also become toxic just as the series, apologies but i have no interest to connect with this forum going forward.

I have already pointed out a lot of things in one of posts Roch, forgot to tag you. You see about the gratitude, if Sai needs to show gratitude , even Virat needs to show gratitude as well.. For standing up for him in front of Pakhi, for going and meeting the DIG, for standing up for him during MS, for standing up for his mother (which he fails to do till date, I am so pissed off at him today, have other post on that), for standing up for his BUA when she was being character assassinated by her own family , for standing up for his Tai all the time, which everyone including him have hardly done as admitted by Tai herself(not talking about marriage, even before PUlkit came into picture) . He has supported her and she has as well. While he failed to protect her family(Usha maushi's) dignity time and again and now became a an equal participant in disrespecting her , she has stood by his mother , Bua and Tai. If we are talking gratitude , even Sai has a list to be thanked for.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC


Shared my two cents in blue😊


Like you watching GHKPM for Sairat. Even though I understand Virat’s pain it just doesn’t justify his actions. If he was businessman like every other itv ml it wouldn’t have bothered me so much IMO.

I agree about the investigation part and you have aptly summarized it. Both the characters were butchered.


Regarding her concern, same women who hid such a big truth from him for his feelings didn't think twice before tarnishing his image in public. I wonder if it was a concern or lack of proof that stopped her?

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